# 101: Joseph Zamd

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Welcome to another episode of
come Together

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and we're live dude.
Welcome brother.

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Let's have a this.
So the only thing that I like to

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clarify, especially with my with
my Jewish buddies and guests, is

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that if we're gonna, the show is
not specifically for Jews.

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So if we're gonna explain, I'm
happy to talk about Jewish

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concepts, but to explain them in
a way that anyone listening

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could understand, of course.
But dude, welcome, man.

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Tell me a little about yourself.
Introduce yourself.

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Who are you?
My name is Joseph Zand.

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I was born in Venezuela.
I came to the United States when

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I was about nine years old, nice
to Fort Lauderdale, western

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Florida.
And that's pretty much where I

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grew up all the way up until
high school.

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And that's when I started
getting interested in the

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military life because in high
school I was in ROTC and I was,

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you know, always into like the
military movies, you know, Rambo

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and all that cool stuff.
So that got my drive to go into

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the military.
And from there, from ROTCI was a

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really good swimmer.
So in the Navy, they recruit

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really good swimmers, high
athletes for them to go to boot

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camp, to go to different special
operations programs, right?

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And I was one of them that
happened to go into the rescue

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swimmer program out of high.
School for the Navy.

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For the Navy, yeah, Sweet.
Yes.

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So that's that happened in 2009
when I graduated.

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So I'm going to start from
there.

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Pretty much my timeline.
Wait, so before you do real

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quickly, can you, do you
remember a lot about Venezuela

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or do you go back often?
I can talk a little bit about

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it.
I don't remember that much just

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because I didn't go back only
once when I was 13.

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OK, so very vague little
memories of certain moments,

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gotcha.
But.

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It wasn't like.
But it's not something that I

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can, you know, vividly tell you.
This sure, sure, sure.

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Yeah, of.
Course.

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But I did go back.
Everything looked very

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different.
I was a lot older and that's

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when the conditions in Venezuela
were not looking good at all and

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I kind of just went to my
cousin's house.

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Long story short, I never went
back after that.

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Really.
You were done with that.

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I'm Venezuelan.
I love Venezuela, but I'm, I

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consider myself an American.
I'm a proud American.

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Good for you.
I am very patriotic.

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Yeah.
That's why I love the Navy.

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I love the military and I love
what the military does for human

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beings, you know, for, for the
mind.

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You can obviously, you know,
there's, there's the good and

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the bad.
And a lot of people can talk bad

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about the military, but I like
to look at it the, the aspect of

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the mindset of what that does to
a human being.

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Yeah.
And I believe every male should

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serve in the military.
You think so?

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Absolutely awesome.
Absolutely.

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Just because there's a lot of
characteristics and different

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things that need to be built
that if you don't have either a

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very straight household or a
good role model as a father or

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somebody like that, then you
will not be able to, you know,

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get those discipline mindset
and, you know, do do the things

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even if you don't feel like
doing it.

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Those things that are useful in
life that nobody really tells

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you until you got to figure it
out, you know.

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Yeah.
So that's why I think the

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military is key for all, for all
males specifically, just to

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toughen everybody up.
So I knew that from the

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beginning and I decided to join
the military.

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It wasn't easy.
Were you scared to do it?

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I wasn't.
My parents were.

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You weren't because you were in
high school and Rift and you're

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like, I'm not, I'm not afraid of
anything.

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There, and I wasn't a big guy, I
was actually one of the smaller

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guys, which actually motivated
me to be the big guy.

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Were you always a dog?
I was always a swimmer, though.

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I was always a swimmer.
Yes, I was always a swimmer.

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Cool.
So that helped me, you know, in

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getting my foot in the door.
And I got really into

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bodybuilding in the military,
you know, getting jacked and

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everything that that's when I
was 17.

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But let me go back to when I was
signing up.

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My parents were not happy when
we were talking about I was

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scared.
High school.

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High school, you were in Weston,
Fort Lauderdale area.

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Yes, in Cypress Bay High School.
OK, Cypress Bay High School.

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Is that where Guy was?
Yes, Guy Levy was there.

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We actually so actually we the
same age we.

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What's that?
Are you the same age?

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Yes, we should be.
Maybe he's a little bit older

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just because I think I was the
younger in the in our class, we

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were class of 09.
I actually graduated in 08 and I

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went early into the military,
which is the part of the story I

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was telling.
You, Yes.

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Let's go Yes.
So my parents were the ones that

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were scared.
I wasn't.

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I was very No Fear.
I want to do this, this, I

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looked like this is the I want
to do what those guys are doing,

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you know, in the movies and
everything.

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So I knew what I wanted to do.
My parents didn't.

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So I had to convince my parents
that this was the right idea.

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I had 17 years old.
My grandfather, may he rest in

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peace.
He was very, very military

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style, very military mindset.
And was he a veteran?

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He was not a veteran.
He always wanted to be, but he

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loved all everything that had to
do with military.

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Sure.
Gotcha.

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So he was the one that talked to
my mom and convinced her to be

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like, listen, this is actually
good for him and he should do

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this.
So Long story short, I signed

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up, got shipped out when I was
17.

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I graduated in O 8.
So I was supposed to graduate in

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O 9.
So why everybody was going to

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prom and going to grad bash or
whatever they call it?

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Sure.
I was in boot camp in Chicago,

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IL Great Lakes misses, you know
Great Lakes freezing cold

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weather.
Yeah.

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What time of year was this?
This was in March I think.

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I shipped out March 5th, which
March 5th in Chicago is still

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cold and it's the Windy City,
and up in Great Lakes it was

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even colder and I'm coming from
Florida.

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Yeah, dude, I'm 160 lbs wet.
I'm a small kid, you know what I

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mean?
Like 17 years old.

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Everybody in the military is at
least 25262830 years old.

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Everybody's older than me.
And there was only me and

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another guy that was 17, another
guy was 20 and everybody else

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was over 21.
So I wasn't even legal to even

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drink.
Did they, Did people respect you

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for joining or?
Yes, of course, because they

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were like they didn't.
Look, you like you're a kid, No.

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No, they were like, this kid's
17, he's here.

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He could be partying in, you
know, with his friends in high

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school, you know?
Yeah, he joined a different

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path.
So I did get a lot of respect in

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that aspect.
In other aspects, it was kind

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of, you know, I had to grow up
really fast because I have to be

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around, you know, 30 year olds
pretty much for the most part.

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So my 17 year old mind had to,
you know, mature quickly and

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kind of just adapt to my
environment, which I've always

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been very good at adapting to my
environment.

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And I think I've, I've been that
before the military and after

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the military.
Now I'm even better with

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adapting to my environment.
So I I try to make sure that I

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put myself in the right
environments so I adapt

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properly.
Sure, because that's going to go

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to the next part of the story.
Yeah.

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Where when I got out of the
Navy, I did five years.

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Some yeah, military so let's.
I want to I want to dive I want

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to dive into the military in
particular those five years You

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got your cigar and take your
time.

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One of the things that I was
thinking a lot about recently is

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is really just like we're going
to live in a world very soon.

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Our kids are going to live in a
world very soon where we're

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going to get things very quickly
very easily with very little

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effort and I think that
discipline is going to be one of

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the few commodities that's going
to be really, really worthwhile.

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You know, and something that's
really, really.

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Yeah.
And, you know, and so like, it's

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more important for me to teach
my kids to be disciplined than

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it is to teach one particular
topic that they can pick up and

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learn anyway.
Absolutely.

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You know, and I know that
myself, I always thought I was

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bad at, you know, science and
math and stuff like that.

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I always thought I was, I was
not good at school.

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And it just turns out that I
just like to learn differently.

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And now that I figured out how I
learned, I love learning.

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I'm never I never stopped, dude.
So if I could, if I could teach

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my SO, I don't have to teach my
kids the particulars.

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I have to teach them the driving
factors exactly the.

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The of what's going to be
needed, right?

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The groundwork?
Exactly.

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Gotcha.
So, so, so you're 17, you're in

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the military until for five
years, until you're 22.

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Almost 22 because I was.
I got in when I was just just

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turned 17.
And how often are you going

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home?
What's your life like?

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Are you?
Are you happy to be away?

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My life like was I was living on
base.

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I've never got shipped overseas.
My my status in the Navy.

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I was kind of lucky.
Let's say I was attached to a

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helicopter squadron that was
doing search and rescue, HSN 40

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or whatever.
That's, that's what it's called,

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Helicopter Anti Maritime
Squadron.

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And they just did stuff around
the, the Bay pretty much

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offshore, pretty much a training
command.

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And I didn't have to go on
deployment.

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I didn't have to do anything.
So I pretty much got lucky.

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So people say, oh, you're not a
real sailor because I wasn't on

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an aircraft carrier.
I wasn't on a frigate or a

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destroyer, you know?
What do you say to that?

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That's different.
There's different.

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Everybody in the military does
different things in every

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position in the military, job is
essential.

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So even the Yeoman, which is a
secretary, he's still essential

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in the operation.
So not only is it the Navy SEAL,

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but it goes all the way to the
to the paper, the paper pusher,

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let's call it.
Yeah.

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So everybody's essential.
And I think that going back to

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the discipline thing, every job
also required X amount of

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discipline in the military, and
they expect you to have a

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certain level of standard.
Right.

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No matter whether you're going
to be deployed or not, it

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doesn't make a difference.
This is how you're going to live

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in this, how you're going to
this, who you're going to be

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while you're while you're with
us.

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Yes.
So I was living on base.

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I didn't really like it.
So I'm where was.

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Base where were you?
Base was Mayport, Florida.

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OK, so you're back so.
I was in Pensacola, FL for

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aircrew school.
OK, that was that was tough,

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but.
I enjoyed it, tough about it.

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Just the the adapting to it was
2 a day workouts right off the

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bat, but it was just not 2A day
workouts because in boot camp we

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were doing it, but these two A
day workouts were like 2-3 hour

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workouts like we were getting B.
Cardio.

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Push ups, pull ups, just over
and just wear and tear, running

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in the sand, just complete just
getting beat, beat up.

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Wow, You know, wow.
But the point of that they do

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that is pretty much to wean out
the weak.

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Yeah, obviously.
And to make sure that if you

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that you really want to be
there, a lot of people quit and

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that you don't you don't have a
mindset to quit.

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Because if you have a mindset to
quit when things, which is the

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fan, yeah, that person that quit
is going to quit 'cause he's

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going to get scared and running.
High and he's going to cause

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other people to get hurt or.
Die exactly so.

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I did.
A lot of people quit that when

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you were.
For sure, for really for sure.

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Was it shaming it or was it just
like at?

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All there was no shame, shaming,
quitting.

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A lot of people quit, but mainly
it's in the beginning.

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You're real pro with.
This.

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And that's Cuban.
Yeah, right.

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Yeah.
Cigars has to be burning fully,

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you know.
Full circle, of course.

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Yeah, I had a friend, I had AI
had a buddy tell me that

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apparently the best way to light
it is either with that lighter,

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the torch that you're using, not
the lighter that I use.

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Yeah, no, you got to use this
and it has to look at.

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Or a piece of like or a piece of
wood, like a thin piece of wood,

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you'll have that or a match or
whatever.

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Yeah, a lot of that cigars that
buy are wrapped in little ones

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of those, so you could just take
it and.

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Lighter, and this is a What kind
of cigars is this?

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Honestly, I don't remember.
There's a great cigar shop on

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Jonathan.
Is packed tight.

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La Roma de Cuba.
I love Cohiba, this is my that's

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my jam.
Good.

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Well, enjoy, man.
Thank you.

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So, yeah, so you're on base and
you're in Florida.

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You're near Pensacola by the
Panhandle.

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That was aircrew school.
Then we go to, then I get

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stationed in this helicopter
squadron.

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I got to Fast forward because
the story is very long.

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Then I'm in Mayport, Florida.
When I get to Mayport, FL,

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that's when I'm in that command
that it's, I'm not getting

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shipped anywhere.
So my my military career got

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kind of stagnant, which that's
what when that happens, it tends

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to die, let's say the.
Military career.

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Yeah, because you're not getting
the action, the constant

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deployment, which is, is the
hard work, but it's also the the

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excitement.
Yeah, it sucks.

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Hopefully excitement, it's what
you're there for.

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So I kind of felt like I was
like, kind of like, you know,

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I'm always on shore duty and.
There's early 2010, there's like

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2. 1010, 2011 around right
around there.

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Gotcha.
OK.

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Got it.
During the obstration, yes, a

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lot of Middle East, a lot of
Middle East action happening.

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There was a lot.
There was Afghanistan was full

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of people going right now.
It was yeah, 2009.

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It was full of people in
Afghanistan, right.

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So luckily I didn't get shipped
out.

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I was on shore duty.
I finished off my time there.

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I didn't realist.
I didn't get the excitement

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that, that, you know, the best
part of it, of the deployment.

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And I, I don't know, I was young
at the time and I kind of just,

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I was like, all right, let me
just go back to my life and just

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live my life like because I when
I'm 17 and I didn't, you know,

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I'm not already like.
You have a chance to be a kid.

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Exactly.
You want to be a kid, then I'm

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like, I skipped a step, but now
it's like, all right, let me

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finish my time off.
So I finish my time off, and

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then I come back down here to
South Florida, which is where my

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parents live, which is where I
was raised.

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Yeah, sure.
And then when I come back,

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that's when obviously, I come
back to Miami.

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Now I'm over 21.
Yeah.

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I have some money because I have
some money from the military,

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you know.
So I started party.

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OK.
And they?

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A little too much.
Started partying a little too

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much, you know, space nightclub
or going to different, you know,

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in Miami, the whole Miami life.
I did that for a.

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Little bit.
And I got tired of it.

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I did it, you know, for a while.
I did it for a good time.

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You did it for a couple.
Years.

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A couple years, yeah.
Fast forward and I didn't really

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get more than worth the partying
and I kind of got sick and tired

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of it, you know, I got into
training, I got into personal

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training.
I was working at 24 hours was.

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There anything else that you're
interested in along the way that

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you thought you could pursue in
your life or you always into?

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So, but I did that later.
I didn't do when I got in the

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military, I didn't.
So I eventually went to a flight

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school to be a pilot.
Get out of here.

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Yeah, but I didn't continue to
be a airline pilot.

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Yes, that's right.
I just got, I went all the way

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to private pilot.
Yeah.

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And I didn't continue and then?
Expensive as hell.

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It is very expensive.
The military only covers a

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percentage, and I have to pay
the flight hours, the gasoline,

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everything.
Yeah, that's right.

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About $300.00 an hour.
Yeah.

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And you need a minimum of 30-40
hours to, you know, on the

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books.
Yeah.

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So do the math.
Yeah.

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So I was paying that out of
pocket.

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I'm fight.
Fast forward a part of the

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story, because this was later.
This wasn't right after the

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military.
Builder, I'm just hearing about

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your excitement.
Yeah, yeah, sure.

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Your passions.
Yeah, yeah.

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So.
Was it like flying a plane?

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Scary.
Is it?

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Yeah, because you're on one of
these little rinky planes that.

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Yes, that's why it's scary
because if I was in a nice, you

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know, G6 or something that's
pretty much the flies by itself.

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Yeah, it would not be scary.
Why was it scary?

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Because it's one of those ringy
dinky planes, engine prop.

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I was flying a Piper Cherokee
Archer, which is a a low wing

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aircraft doesn't have it on top
of the wing, which is like a

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Cessna 130, which is it's, let's
say it's a little bit easier to

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fly, but they're pretty much
both learner planes.

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I tell you why I was scary.
It was it was scary because on

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my first solo, it was in Perry
Airport.

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North Perry Airport is right
here on University and Pines.

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OK.
Yeah, sure.

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You're right, and that's where
usually all these little planes

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fly.
At I noticed them there.

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Yeah, sure.
You.

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Know.
Because you get those.

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Banner planes, yes, they fly out
of there, right.

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So that's people usually pick to
either be a Banner Pilot to get

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more hours or whatever.
Do they get paid to do that?

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They do.
They do very little.

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Right.
Just to make I'm sure it's just

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expenses.
It covers the expenses of

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getting the flight out there.
They're not having to pay out of

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pocket, correct and.
Then they get the experience,

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they're happy to plan, a lot of
fun, and then they get paid and

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they don't have to go out of
pocket for it.

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That's a cool gig.
That's a lot of fun.

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Do you ever do that?
So I didn't do that.

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I just went all the way to the
private pilot.

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I didn't continue.
I ran out of money to keep

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funding the flying in this, of
course.

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And I was still, you know, kind
of like I didn't I didn't, I

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didn't know if I wanted to do
that as like my as my career, as

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my hobby, as my real, you know,
passion or whatever.

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Yeah.
So I stopped doing that.

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I was partying and doing the
Miami thing for a while off the

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Derek wasn't religious, wasn't
you know, this was your family.

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Religious or no?
So my family's always been

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observant, OK?
We weren't always.

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We weren't Frome, but we were
just, you know, we always did

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the holidays always, you know,
celebrate Shabbat.

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Yeah.
But we know we, we weren't fully

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shomer shops.
OK, I gotcha.

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Like how I am today.
I could say that.

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Sure.
You know.

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Yeah.
But we still, we know we were

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Jews.
We were the best we can, you

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know, whatever.
Sure.

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Sure.
And then later, you know, after

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I get off the path and then I
pretty much do a bunch of stuff

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off the table, you know,
partying.

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When you're doing this stuff,
are you doing it because you're

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just having fun and you don't
care?

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Kind of good question because
that brings when I got out of

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the military, I didn't know, but
I kept searching for something.

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I was missing the military and I
couldn't.

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Missing the structure.
I was missing the structure.

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Yeah.
So this is important that you

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brought that, that topic back
because that goes back to how we

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started the whole discipline
thing.

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Sure.
So I was missing the structure

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of the military.
Why?

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Because you took me out of the
environment where we were just

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talking about too.
So you Take Me Out of that

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environment.
Eventually, over time, the brain

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you get, you soften up.
Yeah.

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So all those disciplines, you
start keeping less and less just

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like you keep so much Shabbat.
Eventually you start keeping

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less and less when people become
too, too religious.

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Yeah.
All of a sudden they're.

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Corruptional.
Yeah, you see them become super

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religious and all of a sudden
then they're in a year and a

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half later because they did too
much.

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You know what I mean?
So I was out of the environment

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in the the lack of structure.
I really affect me.

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So that's why I kind of like
went to the partying and all

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this to the point that I was
disciplined in my partying.

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Yeah, which they say sometimes
like the worst, like, you know,

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the person that's like with bad
habits or addicts is the

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disciplined person because he's
disciplined in his bad habit and

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he's disciplined in his in his
addiction.

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Let's say I could hear.
I could hear.

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That I could relate to that a
little.

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Bit so it's so discipline can
work for you or it can work

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against you.
So my discipline that I had with

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instilled within me since I
wasn't.

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You't getting something less
healthy.

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Pause it.
I would just redirect something

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less healthy, which was the
party.

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So every Thursday, Friday,
Saturday, I was at space

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nightclub, nocturnal, all these
clubs I can name off the top of

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my head.
Wow.

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But you know, just doing the
Miami the.

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Raves, all that fun stuff.
I'm sure you weren't thinking

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about that while you were doing
it.

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While you're doing it, you're
like, let's just have a good.

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Time.
Oh yeah, Now I'm telling you now

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in third person.
Yeah, 4th.

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Yeah, now I'm.
I'm like, Joseph, you did that.

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That's crazy, you know what I
mean?

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But at least I lived it.
I got it out of my sister.

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Sure, sure, sure.
You know.

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I think it's a good thing to do,
by the way.

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It is.
It is.

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I really do.
And I don't even think, I think

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like, and you know, like there's
even like that Jewish concept or

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the Torah concepts of like, if
it helps you like the idea of

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like, almost like we called
teshuva, which is like

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returning.
Which is what I'm doing now

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pretty much.
Right, which we all should be

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hopefully be doing right all the
time because we're always

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deviating from, you know, almost
like what our authentic self and

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our true, you know, spiritual
self really desires.

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We're always deviating.
So we always have to return.

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That's why, you know, it's it's
based on that, but a lot of

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times we say that even the even
the the mistakes or you know,

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quote UN quote mistakes or sins
or whatever that you did, if it

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was all part of leading you back
to where you become, those turn

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into positive things.
Exactly.

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And it's because you would never
be able to get to where you are

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now without.
Whiten had gone.

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I hadn't hadn't walked without
that.

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All those experiences, all those
parting nights because.

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Sometimes I'm like Hashem, why,
like why did I, why did it have

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to go through?
So that's why shit, you know,

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and then sometimes you're like,
well, this person looked like

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they went so easy.
This person that because, you

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know, we know we don't see from
the outside.

454
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,640
We don't see what really is
going on.

455
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,840
Everybody's has their own
stories going in through their

456
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,600
own tribulation.
That's why that's how our mind

457
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,720
likes the things, you know?
That's just how we're programmed

458
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,600
you.
Know because you compare.

459
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,760
We're comparative.
We're very comparative, very

460
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,000
comparative, right, Right.
So I get out of the environment,

461
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,200
back to the story.
Was there a tangible point in

462
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,720
time where you said there's
enough, I'm not doing this

463
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,240
anymore?
Yes, because I did it so, so

464
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,360
much every week and four days a
week.

465
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:54,240
So sometimes so intense, like
I'm the most intense person when

466
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,320
it comes to the things like when
I like and when I start to do

467
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,320
something, I go in all the way.
I'm zero to 100.

468
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,760
Yeah, so party, party.
I did it so much to the point

469
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,080
that I would be at parties, pool
parties, everything, whatever,

470
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,320
VIP and I look around and I'm
like, I'm not even having fun

471
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,720
anymore.
That's what you say to yourself.

472
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,720
You notice.
That and and like and I could be

473
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,400
OK, I would need more drugs,
more alcohol, but still it

474
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,160
wouldn't do it.
Right.

475
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,160
So I'm like the drugs aren't
doing it, the alcohol is not

476
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,040
doing it.
And when I start to look around,

477
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:31,240
are the people around me the
best people that they want the

478
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,280
best for me, or are they around
me because of what I can

479
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,760
provide, you know, of, of
whatever, you know, in that

480
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,880
moment, you know, so that's when
things started to click.

481
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,600
And that's what I think also, I
say to myself, like I had late

482
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,400
frontal low development because
I feel like a lot of things,

483
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,760
it's like even though I was very
mature since I was 17, I did all

484
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,320
this stuff, there was a lot of
parts about the big picture of

485
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,440
life that still hadn't.
You know, lined up with you.

486
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,800
Lined up and folded.
I had a lot of stuff and a lot

487
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,600
of stuff about things, but I
still didn't didn't have the big

488
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,280
picture that I still see now.
And of course in 5-10 years I'm

489
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,440
going to have a bigger picture
than the Joseph that is today.

490
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,960
Of course, keep building on it
and we keep saying, oh wow, if I

491
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,120
would have done this and this
and that.

492
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,400
Just like I'm telling you that
the reason why I did all that

493
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,720
part is because the lack of
structure from going from so

494
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,600
much structure to no structure.
I just completely went all over

495
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,840
the place and I realized that
I'm the type of person that

496
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,560
needs to have structure.
And that's why I also like like

497
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,400
I came back to Judaism, I came
back to structured.

498
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,240
How did that happen?
Through all of these times that

499
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,640
I've, you know that I've
explained different moments,

500
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,920
just different things that
happened.

501
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320
Is there anyone that you you
reached out to?

502
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,520
Was there a particular rabbi or
particular person, literally?

503
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,000
He was literally himself,
literally spoke to me literally.

504
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,240
And I started going to Habad of
Weston about 2020.

505
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,880
Yeah, COVID with my dad.
My dad always, always goes every

506
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,680
morning saw her really.
He's a, he's always part of the

507
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,720
the mignon, very important
member of the of the community

508
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,680
over there.
Very nice.

509
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,800
And I started going with him and
I started liking it.

510
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,080
I made a no.
I made a friend.

511
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,560
I made another friend.
So you didn't have anyone like

512
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,760
pushing you or telling you to go
ahead and do this, you know?

513
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,400
There's nothing, nothing that is
so unique, yes, nothing, not

514
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,600
even my parent unique.
My parents actually look at me

515
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,680
and they're and they they see me
completely different.

516
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,120
Like now I'm even more from than
them.

517
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,480
You know what I mean?
So, and and you know, it's just

518
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,240
like I went from 1 Joseph to
another Joseph, but I did all.

519
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:36,600
Do you believe in God the whole
time?

520
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,360
Absolutely no 100 it.
Was just a question as to how,

521
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,480
how, how, how, what you were
gonna do, how much you were

522
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,200
going to devote yourself to
particular things.

523
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,120
I just, I was the type that it's
like I know I believe in God and

524
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:51,720
God's always with me and I and I
was super confident in my faith

525
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,840
and I didn't, I didn't have the
knowledge that I have now about

526
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,800
what prayer means and all the
structure.

527
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,440
You know what I mean?
To you?

528
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,640
What does prayer mean to you?
It's the it's the moment that I

529
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,560
connect with a sham that I can
actually feel like the whole

530
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,400
world stops.
And in that moment, nothing

531
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,960
matters and it aligns my
thoughts.

532
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,680
It aligns just my just we call
my shockers.

533
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,960
You get everything, everything
is In Sync and and I'm just like

534
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,480
in a, in a transcendent state
and that everything I can just

535
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,800
my intuition is better.
My decision making is better.

536
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,320
Everything which goes to, you
know, praying first thing in the

537
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,560
morning, it lines up your brain.
You're priming your brain for

538
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,040
the rest of the day.
Thousand first thing in the

539
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,840
morning.
Never thought about that timing

540
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,080
your brain that's like.
That's right.

541
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,200
That's right.
You're priming.

542
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,000
Working out.
When you work out first thing in

543
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,560
the morning, what are you
priming?

544
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,440
You're priming your discipline.
By the way, it's true as I love.

545
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,640
Jogging at 5:00 in the morning.
Jacking.

546
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,880
Day with the dog. 5:00 AM Club
people that work out at 4:30,

547
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:56,720
they could easily work out at
8:00 AM.

548
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,640
Some people don't have to do the
rest of the day, you know what I

549
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,760
mean, But they why do they get
up at 4:30?

550
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,360
Why do the people make fun?
Oh, why is Ashton Hall waking

551
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:08,640
about 3:30 in the morning for
we're going discipline?

552
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,680
It's it's because what what
that's doing?

553
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,600
It's not what what the action of
the we're going to the gym and

554
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,960
no, it's what it's doing to your
brain subconsciously that you're

555
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,680
a type of person that can
control their emotions.

556
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,360
Beautiful that can do.
Do whatever you tell your body

557
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:26,800
to do.
Your body is not telling you.

558
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,640
What to?
That's why I love running, by

559
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,120
the way.
I love running.

560
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,920
I love running.
It's because I'm constantly

561
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,200
telling that voice in my head,
shut up.

562
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,720
You're not done, you're not
done.

563
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960
Keep going, keep going.
You know, you got this, you got

564
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,640
this, you've done this before,
you'll do it again.

565
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,880
You know, this is hard.
This is hot, this sucks, this is

566
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,960
fun.
You're going to you're going to

567
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,720
keep on doing this and and like,
there's two voices.

568
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,360
There really are two voices and
you have to.

569
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,840
I feel at least my my own
experience is that the more you

570
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,600
can give the different voices
different amount of value.

571
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,160
Let's bring a little bit of
Tanya into this.

572
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,000
Let's do it.
Tanya is a Can you want to

573
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,880
explain what Tanya is?
So Tanya is is pretty much the

574
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,040
Habad Bible, let's call it
without, you know, of course.

575
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,720
So it was written by the altar
Rebbe, of course.

576
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,280
OK, who is the 1st?
The Baba.

577
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,240
Who is the 1st?
The Baba Traba, Yes.

578
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,800
And the Baba.
Tanya explains that you have

579
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,280
your godly soul and your
animalistic soul, your godly

580
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,000
soul's on your right, your
animalistic soul's on your left.

581
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,440
And we have to try to do
everything possible so that our

582
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,560
godly soul overflows into the
left ventricle of our heart so

583
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,000
we could kind of control our
animalistic soul.

584
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,440
We're not trying to remove it
because we still need it because

585
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760
it's still a part of us, because
if we didn't need it, Hashem

586
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,800
wouldn't have given us both of
these.

587
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,000
You know, we say our bodies
still need it.

588
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,080
That's what for you.
So we can have our free will, so

589
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,560
we can have everything that we
need to.

590
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,200
We can be human beings when we
were created to function.

591
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,480
So timing is very important to
this because it goes back to the

592
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080
two voices in your head.
And you can look at you can, you

593
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,880
can use that example.
The good voice is the godly

594
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,640
voice and the bad voice is the
animalistic voice.

595
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,680
So logic is up here in the mind,
right?

596
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,440
And if you follow your heart,
you're following your emotions.

597
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,800
One of the.
Foundations of of Judaism is

598
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,760
Shema when you say don't chase
after your heart and don't chase

599
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,000
after your eyes you know those
are those are emotional those

600
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,000
are instinctual and reflexive be
thoughtful be.

601
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,400
A human being.
A human being, not a man, not a

602
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,400
Bahama.
That's right.

603
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,080
Wow, wow.
So if that's the case, do you,

604
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,600
I, I think I've been thinking a
lot about this in the last bunch

605
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,840
of months, maybe last year or
so, but do you think that the

606
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040
techno technological development
that we're you know.

607
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,120
Like AI?
AI and stuff.

608
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,440
But which I've been using
ChatGPT, I love it.

609
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,200
And you tell it, hey, do this
and this and this and do that

610
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,000
and then and then you say, no, I
didn't like that.

611
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320
Erase this and do this and it'll
change everything for you later

612
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,560
to your personal assistant.
Oh yeah, it's incredible.

613
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,800
But it is scary because, for
example, I'm scrolling through

614
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,640
videos, I see 100 foot Anaconda
on the Amazonian River and

615
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,600
they're this guy's flying out of
a helicopter.

616
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,720
I send it to my cousin and it's
like, oh, the for the sighting

617
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,200
of the biggest Anaconda in the
world.

618
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,040
And the video looks it was real,
it was AI, it was fake,

619
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,840
obviously.
Yeah.

620
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,840
I mean when Anaconda the size of
like 100 foot like there's.

621
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,040
Big Anaconda we're getting,
we're getting to really weird.

622
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,320
Points.
But it looks so real.

623
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,520
That's the scary part.
So imagine if more and more

624
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,920
footage comes out different
things.

625
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,120
What are you going to tell your
kid?

626
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,120
Oh, is this is not what are they
believing what they're seeing,

627
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,680
you know, so now, obviously not
even now with the access that a

628
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,360
child has to the Internet is.
Forget about that 10 years from

629
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,040
now.
Think.

630
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,520
About how much?
Because how fast we're moving,

631
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,720
we're not going.
To even know what reality is in

632
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,320
10 years.
Because AI.

633
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,320
Is so.
Already within us and it's

634
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,440
already doing so much stuff
automatically, like losing jobs

635
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,320
of a lot of people, that
eventually a lot of people we're

636
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,320
going to have to pivot, are
going to have to pivot of what

637
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,520
they do.
Their careers.

638
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,480
A lot of careers will be
obsolete.

639
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,720
Yeah, completely obsolete.
And what are we left with?

640
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,640
And you're going to be and
you're going to be left with

641
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,160
certain things that I guarantee
you people might not listen and

642
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,200
like like hearing this, but it's
going to turn into kind of like

643
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,800
the government, you know,
creating these, you know,

644
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,800
socialist type of jobs for
people to kind of just, you

645
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,880
know, have.
And then you'll have the really

646
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,640
rich and then you'll have the
really poor.

647
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,360
And then the middle class will
be kind of gone because you

648
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,280
either.
You think so?

649
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,320
Yes, because the way it's
moving, it's either right now

650
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,480
like either you're like doing
all this stuff, you know, you're

651
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680
with social media, your YouTube,
you're doing all this making

652
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,680
money with, you know, with
affiliate marketing and this big

653
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,640
boom with the Amazon drop
shipping you.

654
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,320
Know what I think the difference
is going to be?

655
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,040
I don't think it's going to be a
question of wealth or not.

656
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,200
I think that we're going to
become so wealthy that

657
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,640
everyone's going to be taken
care of.

658
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,120
You think everybody's going to
be rich?

659
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,120
Here's what I think.
I think everyone.

660
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,320
I think everything accounted
for.

661
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640
Yeah, I hope so.
Listen, I hope every, for

662
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,760
example, I hope that we'll
accumulate enough wealth and

663
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,560
resources and commodities that
people will at least have house

664
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,080
and food provided for and
probably medicine probably,

665
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,520
right?
Because those are all AI.

666
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,920
It's essentially essentially,
you know, we can find a way to

667
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,760
pretty much make that, you know,
free for everyone, right?

668
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,760
The question I think that's
going to separate the quote UN

669
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,880
quote upper class from the quote
UN quote lower class is going to

670
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,880
be how autonomous of a human
being are you going to be?

671
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,600
Are you the type of being human
being that's going to live a

672
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,880
life where you choose what
you're going to do and take

673
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,560
action and choose to go through
challenges and struggle?

674
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,160
Talking about exactly.
Or are you going to be the human

675
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,640
being that is very comfortable
and OK with sitting on their

676
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,680
couch watching Netflix, taking
checks and watching the

677
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,080
consuming?
You're going to be either a

678
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,440
creator or a consumer.
You're going to be either

679
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080
autonomous or you're going to be
a couch potato.

680
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,240
And I think that's what's going
to separate in the future.

681
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,880
I don't think so.
I don't think it's it's going to

682
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,520
be something as and you can
almost say it's quote UN quote

683
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,600
trivial to say like money,
because what's like we talk

684
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,480
about like fighting over like
resources.

685
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,440
We're fighting over what houses
we all look around you.

686
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,480
We all have houses, you know,
Like you know.

687
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,720
Like, like, there's a lot of
people falling behind.

688
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,880
In terms of what in?
Terms of growth.

689
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Right.
But what's growth?

690
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,000
Growth would.
Be just just intellectually.

691
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,640
Intellectually, people.
People that are not keeping up

692
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,800
with the computers and all this
technology, yes, like.

693
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,080
That's what's going.
To be my parents, they tell me,

694
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,200
how do you do this in the
computer?

695
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,640
How do we, how do we do this for
this?

696
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,080
And unfortunately, like a lot of
businesses, like if you're in

697
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,280
your new, your 50s, sixties,
70s, and you ran your business a

698
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,480
certain way and it always
worked, that might not be the

699
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,600
way it's going to continue to
work.

700
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,920
Because now you have these young
20 year olds, yeah, that are

701
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,440
pushing at social media all
this.

702
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,960
And they're pretty much taking
the majority of, you know.

703
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,280
But do you think that like, I
think for example, that our

704
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,640
parents generation is probably
going to be the last generation

705
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,120
that has the pleasure of
enjoying the world as it is like

706
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,560
this and like they can retire
and like kind of like ride off

707
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,360
into the sunset of like what
this world was like that they're

708
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,760
used to.
And but I don't think that we're

709
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,320
going to have the same luxury.
I think that you and I are

710
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,640
probably in the next 30-40 years
from now, we're going to

711
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,520
experience a lot of change and
we're going to have to do a lot

712
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,840
of we're going to be really lit
on our toes.

713
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,320
We're going to have to be able
to adjust and move.

714
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,360
And learn very quickly.
Adapting.

715
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,080
Very much adapt.
Have to be adaptive because I

716
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,240
think that that is going to make
that is going to separate

717
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,480
different.
Classes, which is why I'm

718
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,760
telling you, I've been using AI.
I didn't want to fall into

719
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,400
ChatGPT.
I didn't want to do all this.

720
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,480
I don't I don't want to, but I
because I'm realizing that if I

721
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,040
don't get on it, it's going to
leave.

722
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560
And the people that are using it
and the people are getting way

723
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,640
more ahead, getting way more
productive in their, you know,

724
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,520
in their type, in their work
that they're getting done

725
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,160
because they pretty much have an
assistant.

726
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,360
For free automatically.
Here's one example.

727
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Here's one example that I that I
just implemented right, my dad,

728
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,160
the last couple.
So generally speaking, so I use

729
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,840
sales primarily for my income,
right.

730
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,240
It's I have a base plus
Commission on.

731
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880
I work with my dad family
business, sell medical equipment

732
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400
and.
My dad did that for a while.

733
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,440
Oh, yeah, and it's, it's it's.
Pairs and stuff like that.

734
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,400
So we do the actual like
machines, like ultrasounds and

735
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,240
patient monitors and Dexos and
stuff like that.

736
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,480
Right.
By the way, I want a DEXA.

737
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:54,320
Dexa I hook you up?
That's that's primarily why I

738
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,280
sell to now because the
insurance rebates are minuscule,

739
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,240
but the body fat composition,
whole body composition is out of

740
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,040
pocket.
So that's really the only way.

741
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.

742
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,520
And those in body motion
machines.

743
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,280
They no, no, no, they suck,
dude.

744
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,480
We'll talk about that at another
time.

745
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,239
Yeah, so so, but you know, so
one thing I do to I I don't, I

746
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,239
hate cold calling.
I hate the feeling of bothering

747
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,480
someone and judge like.
If I don't see the number and I

748
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,920
don't have it saved.
You don't pick up.

749
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,199
I'm not picking up.
So what I do is I run and

750
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,840
protect.
Me after and I'm like hey Joe da

751
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,159
da da da da and then that's.
What I do, so I'll do emails,

752
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,719
I'll do emails and stuff, right?
But you know, So what I do was I

753
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,600
run Google advertisements, so
when doctors search ultrasound

754
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,880
machines or Dexas.
I pop up because your SEO, you

755
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,320
have all that set up.
So it's like.

756
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,960
You know, So what happens is
they call me now, it's not a

757
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,120
cold lead now it's someone
that's initiating with me that

758
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,520
it shows they're interested in
something.

759
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,920
And so I'm happy now.
You guys are paying top dollar

760
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,760
to be able to.
Be correct off of that, correct?

761
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,160
Yes, correct, correct.
It's not cheap, but it's it's,

762
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,240
it's, it's part of the.
It's worth it, yeah.

763
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:03,000
Now is it pay per click or is
OK, OK, it is.

764
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,560
That's good.
Because if it's just you're

765
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,520
paying money and no one.
Take it pay per click you see.

766
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They break everything down

767
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,600
really, really well.
But, and recently last couple of

768
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,000
weeks and it always takes
changing up because you know,

769
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,400
the campaigns, oh, you know,
Google's always changing their

770
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,120
formula.
You always need to just change

771
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,680
up the wording in the campaigns
that you're doing.

772
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,000
In the last couple of weeks, I
haven't been able to figure out

773
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,440
a really good one and it's been
slower for work, right?

774
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,600
My dad called me up and goes,
listen, man, like we got to

775
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,080
figure something out.
We got to get, we got to get

776
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,400
some traction.
So I went to ChatGPT.

777
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,840
I was like, I'm so stupid for
not doing this right.

778
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,560
I said, give me 50 OBGYN centers
because we have a lot of 3D40

779
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,960
ultrasound machines.
Got three babies in 3D40.

780
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,600
I'm like give me a list of 50
e-mail addresses around the

781
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,520
country of OBGYN practices
right?

782
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,760
Boom, 30 seconds later that
would it take me?

783
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,080
Forever, because usually it
doesn't pop up that yes.

784
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,720
My time of my life and I would
have been miserable and banging

785
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,680
my head against the wall and I'm
like, I'm Googling businesses

786
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,800
and trying to find their e-mail
addresses and are they?

787
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,040
Interested.
Where are they?

788
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,160
Got me in seconds and I am a
freaking idiot if I don't take

789
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,760
advantage of that.
That's what I'm saying.

790
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,280
That's exactly I realize that.
So when I when I realized couple

791
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,760
and I put I got on it maybe like
less than a year ago, I started

792
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,520
using it.
It's because it's what I were

793
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,360
just saying.
If we don't get on that train,

794
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,040
it'll leave us behind to the
point that we'll, we'll feel

795
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,160
like we're like, you know what I
mean?

796
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,080
Like we're indigenous.
We're indigenous people.

797
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,480
And we don't know how to
navigate, you know, you know,

798
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,080
the, the Internet and the
computer.

799
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,760
Like we need to get on top of
that.

800
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,080
Yeah.
So I'm doing that for the

801
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,560
podcast too now.
Like, you know what?

802
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,360
I want to talk to an
investigative journalist.

803
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,840
Give me 30 investigative
journalist that, that, that

804
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,240
that, that, you know that talk
about XY and Z topics.

805
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,960
Boom, done.
No, I love it dude it.

806
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,800
Is and by the way, I until I
figured that out, I've been

807
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,240
spending probably 15 hours a
week or 20 hours a week

808
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,840
researching people and trying to
find interesting people.

809
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,360
I just cut that time in.
In not even.

810
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,920
Right.
And now the question of what?

811
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,200
Time No wait.
So then I just got an ad for

812
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,760
this bot that calls 1800 phone
numbers per minute.

813
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,320
No way some crazy number.
So you're of course you need.

814
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,240
It's all spam.
Right, no pops on.

815
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,440
People's phone is spam.
What do you think the turn

816
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,960
around rate on?
What do you think the success

817
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,560
rate on those 1800 people?
Are then I don't I don't know I

818
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,120
don't know because I I just know
I saw yeah though yeah of

819
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,800
course, but you would have to
have a lead database obviously

820
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,640
of you know what whatever 10,000
emails yeah or 10,000 phone

821
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,840
numbers and then this bot calls
it out or sends text messages

822
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,240
out yes hey, this is such.
A touch you listen to other

823
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:47,800
podcasts or.
Yeah, of course.

824
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,000
What's my favorite or Mosey
extra Mosey?

825
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,960
OK.
And this guy great, you know,

826
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,480
OK, the Nick Bear podcast, you
know, Nick, go one more.

827
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,480
No like a runner.
Army Ranger.

828
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,280
One of the biggest guys on
YouTube love.

829
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,840
Sean Ryan, do you like Sean?
Ryan, Sean Ryan, I was just

830
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,000
watching today.
Which one?

831
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,720
Tim Tebow.
And then the other one with the

832
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:13,280
guy that was undercover for all
cases.

833
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,440
Yeah.
So how was that?

834
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,600
I was.
I didn't finish it.

835
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,960
I didn't finish.
It good how?

836
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,040
Far I was I literally if I open
up my YouTube, I think it'll pop

837
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,520
up.
Look, look, that's so.

838
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Funny, I just.
Started dude CIAFBIAI like 11

839
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,640
minutes in, yeah.
Dude, I want that's that one.

840
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,120
I thought that's all great.
I think that he I probably

841
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,400
listen to one out of every like
between 5 and 10 episodes.

842
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,400
His Shawn Ryan is the GOAT when
it comes to getting the right

843
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,560
people in front of that seat.
You know what I mean?

844
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Like so.
Oh, yeah.

845
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,720
Like he's he's can get people
that talented.

846
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,920
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, because he was loving.

847
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,360
He's only cute.
See you like CIA.

848
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,440
You know, he's he's got he's got
a good resume.

849
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,120
You know he knows the right
people.

850
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,960
So what I was trying to, So what
I was getting at earlier full

851
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,720
circle and then we'll continue
talking about a little bit more

852
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,360
about your life because I'm
really excited about that.

853
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,200
But one of the things I was
thinking about and talking about

854
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:11,840
was what if, you know, our
notion of Mashiach or the

855
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,320
Messiah or whatever it is, What
do we say?

856
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,040
Like we talk all the time about
like the days where we're not

857
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,240
tempted with our like animal
side, the days that we give

858
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,680
clarity, like as to what are
like what the right thing to do

859
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,600
is.
What if that is us like wedding

860
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,360
out our consciousness from our
bodies and like, what if like if

861
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,040
we're like, you know, like
where, where technology is going

862
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,280
with AI, with quantum computing,
with like all the groundbreaking

863
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,240
things that are feel like
happening every 5 minutes of

864
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:39,160
every day.
Yeah, every week.

865
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Every.
Every day.

866
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,160
Every day you're reading these
crazy articles.

867
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,200
Now the markets booming, yeah.
It's like the world is just, the

868
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,760
world is just moving at a pace
that we can't keep track of.

869
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,880
But I'm not like the way I like
to think about these things.

870
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,960
I'm very really, I've been
religious my whole life.

871
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,640
I've been observing my whole
life, but one of the things I

872
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,320
think about is that when you
think about these Bible stories,

873
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,040
you think about these scenarios,
these, you know, the leaving

874
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,960
Egypt and you leave it by
splitting the sea and receiving

875
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,120
the Torah and everything like
that.

876
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,240
And you're like, well, OK, so
it's happening to a small group

877
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:14,760
of people.
What's everyone else on the

878
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,640
planet hearing?
What's everyone else think?

879
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,520
Is everyone like that's a
conspiracy theory.

880
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,400
Does everyone think like like
what's like, what's everyone's

881
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,960
reaction?
Like what's action in and what

882
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,240
if?
What's happening now?

883
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,000
Are, are these signs of
something really great

884
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,520
happening?
And it's a question of whether

885
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,760
or not we're willing to see it
or not.

886
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,360
Yes.
Because like when the Jews were

887
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,520
leaving Egypt, I'm sure that a
lot of people didn't want to see

888
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,240
it the way it was.
That's what that's what a Malik

889
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,720
represents.
You know, Malik represents and

890
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:43,640
you know, those are the people
that that were, that were told

891
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,240
to, to snuff out and to kill and
to eradicate their, this

892
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:53,640
philosophy, this perspective of
skepticism and hate and, and you

893
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,560
know, big deal that nothing's
meaningful, nothing's valuable

894
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,320
in your life and nothing's
valuable in the world and

895
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,240
everything is chaos and random.
And we're supposed to snuff that

896
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:03,560
out and insist that it's
important, right?

897
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,160
And like, how do we not know
that that's what's happening,

898
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,200
right?
Now, yeah, I I think it you,

899
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:12,640
you're on something there.
I think, I think we are on that

900
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,520
and it and it won't be something
like we're thinking it's going

901
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,720
to be.
It's not, that's right, right.

902
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,320
And you know that, you know,
there's a famous Midrash,

903
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,720
there's a famous, you know, you
know, there's, so there's the

904
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:26,520
written law, there's oral law,
of course, of course.

905
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,240
And, and you know, there's a
commentary, the oral commentary

906
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:34,000
on the, on the Torah.
And one of the things they talk

907
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,520
about is that 3/4 of the Jews
didn't leave Egypt.

908
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,880
Right they stayed.
Right they stayed.

909
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,800
They could not.
Bring themselves to adapt and to

910
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,360
change their environment.
You know 3/4 of that and 600,000

911
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,480
left which shows how many of
that you know 600,000 men

912
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,600
between the age of 18 and 20 and
20.

913
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,960
And 50 maybe or 50I?
Mean something like that, I

914
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,560
don't know, 18 and 50 was just
say and then since they a couple

915
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,240
million people right left, 3/4
of them were dead.

916
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,760
That means that something's
going to be happening where most

917
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,440
Jews or most people are not
going to be able to accept

918
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,960
reality for what it is.
And we have to keep and, and we

919
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,880
have to keep our minds open to
like what what the future is

920
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,960
going to be and like that it's
going to be something unfamiliar

921
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,440
and strange.
We can look at it.

922
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,920
I mean, let's let's talk about
COVID.

923
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,480
Let's talk about it.
What do you think?

924
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,400
COVID, it was this.
I mean, it left everybody, you

925
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,120
know.
That shattered the world.

926
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,880
That shattered the world.
And then now we hear about, oh,

927
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,880
it was fake, it was this, it was
that.

928
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,600
It wasn't really fake.
It wasn't fake.

929
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,560
It was a real.
It was a real.

930
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,120
Thing but unless.
He made by men.

931
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,760
Right.
But when they say it was fake,

932
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,080
it was they made this big
commotion of all the distancing,

933
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,720
all these rules that were not
really made-up, made-up because

934
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,000
they didn't really have
information on this disease.

935
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,160
Yeah.
So, you know, you could say 6

936
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,760
feet, not 6 feet.
Don't cough.

937
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,960
In front of the face.
No mad, no mad, whatever it is.

938
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,600
But yeah, Mask it's a, you know,
whatever people were wearing

939
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,840
masks inside their car, driving
like self people were still are

940
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:07,400
like, you know, actually thank
God for COVID.

941
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,600
Because tell.
Me that if it wasn't because of

942
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,400
COVID I wouldn't be here today
first.

943
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Of all, why?
It's just because COVID gave me

944
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,920
the the structure to come and
find the gym that I'm at now

945
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,120
with one of my trainer.
Partners OK so let's go back to

946
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,040
let's go back to bodybuild so OK
so now that was a great

947
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,400
philosophical conversation a lot
of fun we now so now we talked

948
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,720
about military partying this
whole philosophical conversation

949
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,800
and now you're and now when
you're starting to become more

950
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,680
observant I guess you know more
religious and.

951
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,040
Which is like 2020, so about
five years ago.

952
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,560
Wait, OK, so you were in the
army told about 2013?

953
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,520
Navy in the Navy.
In the Navy rather till about

954
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,520
2013.
Yeah.

955
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,520
And then for like for like 7
years. 6-7 years you're

956
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,720
partying.
Seven years.

957
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,680
And at this point, were you
working out were?

958
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,200
You I was working with you big,
were you?

959
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,480
I was big.
You were getting.

960
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Big testosterone I was.
Big I was.

961
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,720
Yeah, were.
You afraid to take?

962
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,200
Testosterone.
No, I was not.

963
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,040
I was not an afraid kid.
No.

964
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,080
And now I have respect, because
now you know I know better.

965
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,520
OK, so so where you so so how'd
that get started?

966
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Because I just wanted the
muscle.

967
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,880
I wanted this so I took the you.
Just want to be huge.

968
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,640
Creatine, the protein shake.
I did it all, you know.

969
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,640
OK.
And I achieved the physique that

970
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,480
I wanted.
Did you?

971
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,240
I did, I did.
I just was never content because

972
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:33,000
I became obsessed with like this
body dysmorphia that I didn't

973
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,880
think I was enough and I was
shred.

974
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,840
By the way.
And I was freaking 21567 percent

975
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,040
body fat, ready to compete.
Everything.

976
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Guy Levy, he'll talk.
He was my coach for a while in

977
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,360
bodybuilding.
OK, Yeah.

978
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,360
But I never got on stage.
Really.

979
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,600
Why?
Because I couldn't.

980
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,160
I'll tell you this right now, I
didn't think I was ready the

981
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,480
whole time and I look back at.
The picture already.

982
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,840
We talked about, he obviously
said yes and we were talking

983
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,320
with he he had another guy who
was training at the time, Colin

984
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,000
Robinson, I think his name was.
He won and everything.

985
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,920
He competed and I should have
competed at the same time when

986
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,440
he was competing, but I was.
Tabia diet, right?

987
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,960
I was on the so I don't.
He got me off of it.

988
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,880
No, I think I don't.
Remember he told, he told me

989
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,280
that he got, he, he, he, he, he
told me he didn't like the top

990
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,000
of your diet.
No, I think he put me on like

991
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,560
ground Turkey or ground beef or
something.

992
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,200
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't remember.

993
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,920
OK, but Long story short, I was.
The point is that I got into the

994
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,920
bodybuilding thing.
The bodybuilding thing, I was

995
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,840
very successful in achieving the
physique I wanted.

996
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,480
I never thought it was enough.
So I wanted more and I was big.

997
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,280
I was like literally just, I was
taking testosterone a bunch.

998
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,280
So I was very muscular, very
ripped, but I still didn't think

999
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,120
I was ripped enough or big
enough.

1000
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,960
So that created some type of
like mental.

1001
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,520
Where did they come from?
Come from my own snow come from

1002
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,360
comes from my OCD from my from
from the military, let's call it

1003
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,560
the military gave me gives me
this like OCD of everything has

1004
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,360
to be perfect.
So I didn't see and perfect

1005
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,040
doesn't exist.
We're not perfect.

1006
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,280
We'll never be perfect.
But I'm trying to look like I

1007
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,680
would say Mr. Olympia magazine.
I want to look like that.

1008
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Not going to look like Mr.
Olympia because Mr. Olympia, he

1009
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,360
looks like that the specific
time when he's dehydrated, when

1010
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,920
everything, all the points, all
the stars align and everything

1011
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,320
is perfect in that specific
moment on stage with the right

1012
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,840
lighting with the tan.
And then they take that picture

1013
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,760
that you see and you're
comparing yourself to.

1014
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:33,080
So, Long story short, it's
pretty.

1015
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,840
Unhealthy.
No, no, I said.

1016
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,200
The whole process sounds pretty
healthy.

1017
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,960
It's very hunchy.
So you, you, you're doing all

1018
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,040
the healthy stuff, the eating
healthy, the working out, but

1019
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,520
you're also.
Mentally, it's not.

1020
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,680
You're doing, you're being
unhealthy mentally because

1021
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,880
you're creating this like
psychosis or something.

1022
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,840
So interesting.
To a point that I'm there.

1023
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,200
Happened a lot to a lot of
bodybuilders.

1024
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,520
Yes, yes, to a point that I
wasn't enjoying life.

1025
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,600
Everything was so restricted and
you know, and I still wasn't

1026
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,920
happy with the result to the
point that I just, you know, I

1027
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,280
stopped the bodybuilding.
Obviously I was still into

1028
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,880
fitness and still, you know,
working and everything.

1029
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,840
But the bodybuilding, you know,
you take a break a day.

1030
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,840
Tupperware.
No way you.

1031
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,680
Know what I mean?
What was that like?

1032
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,880
What are 8 meals a day like?
What do you eat?

1033
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:16,360
It was literally salmon, ground
beef, boiled hard boiled eggs,

1034
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,320
protein shakes, more protein
bars.

1035
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,560
All protein, no carbs.
No, no, no, no, no.

1036
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,800
Of course, sweet potato.
I was eating a bunch of Oh yeah,

1037
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,360
yeah.
So what's your diet?

1038
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,840
Like 4000?
I would think I was eating like

1039
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,920
4100 calories at that point.
And are you burning those

1040
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,160
calories off?
Are you in order to be able to

1041
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,200
gain mass?
My skin on my stomach was

1042
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,840
literally like, like thin, like,
like paper.

1043
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,800
Like, really?
Yeah, it was literally because

1044
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,280
from literally you're working.
I was working out 2-3 hours a

1045
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,640
day.
And what do you when you're

1046
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,120
working out 2-3 hours a day,
you're hitting ultra specific

1047
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,440
areas?
Right, a lot of isolation, but I

1048
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,280
was at a point that I literally
just, I would go and just work

1049
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,280
out.
Just hey, all right, let me hit

1050
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,280
buys and tries and just go until
failure, pretty much.

1051
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,960
But I I would recover so
quickly, you know?

1052
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,200
Yeah.
When you're on when you're on

1053
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,320
TRT, you're recovering twice as
fast.

1054
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,000
You know what I mean?
Testosterone.

1055
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,280
Yeah.
You're on TRT, you're recovering

1056
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,840
twice as fast.
I'm calling TRT.

1057
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,880
It wasn't through a doctor.
It wasn't a proper TRT.

1058
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,040
Yeah, You know, treatment.
I'm trying to, you know, make it

1059
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,880
sound nice.
This as a kid, I'm doing this as

1060
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,840
a kid I would get I would get
the testosterone from like how?

1061
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,960
Do you connect with the guy
again?

1062
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,240
How did it happen?
USI the gym in Weston, OK?

1063
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,360
Me and Guy, we, we were
neighbors growing up, OK,

1064
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,360
Literally we lived in the same
subdivision of the neighborhood,

1065
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,040
not even in the same
neighborhood, but in the same

1066
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,800
subdivision of the neighborhood.
We were going in the bus, in the

1067
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,800
same bus and everything, and we
connected because he was, I

1068
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,520
think at the time, training
people from USI, the gym.

1069
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,920
He wasn't working there as a
coach, I think, or maybe he was.

1070
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,200
He was doing his own coaching,
his own thing, but he was

1071
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,720
working at that gym, Monster, he
was coaching.

1072
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:57,120
Bodybuilding in MMA.
Yes, I think he had.

1073
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,240
The company was called SD
Physiques or something like

1074
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,000
that.
Yeah.

1075
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,920
Guy correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah, I think it was SD

1076
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,960
physique, yeah.
I went to.

1077
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,920
I got adjusted from him earlier
this week.

1078
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,280
I need to go.
I have.

1079
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,840
Dude and you check out the
facility, dude, I go to jiu

1080
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,320
jitsu there probably three times
a week now.

1081
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,400
Two times a week now.
Well, he rented a space in this

1082
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:30,680
big gym and they get NFL combine
players, UFC fighters, and then

1083
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,680
the there's there's a jiu jitsu,
boxing, kickboxing and MMA

1084
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,520
classes that all happened in
that area too.

1085
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,040
And so he introduced me to the
coach, and about a month ago I

1086
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,000
started going, oh wow, dude,
it's my favorite thing in the

1087
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,080
world.
It's so cool.

1088
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Dude, what you were describing
about like nothing else is there

1089
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,800
when I'm when I'm when we're
rolling jiu jitsu.

1090
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,800
I had a baby two weeks ago.
I do not even know that baby

1091
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,080
exists while I'm rolling.
Dude, my wife exists.

1092
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,840
It's like there is nothing.
You know why?

1093
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,160
Well.
Ukrainian.

1094
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,040
You know why?
You know why?

1095
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,160
Why?
Because you have to be present.

1096
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,920
You know why?
Because you're in fight or

1097
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,240
flight.
Yeah, you have to be present.

1098
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,800
And we live our everyday, and
I'm adjusting, dude, I feel

1099
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,360
automatic in the same room.
People get up at the same time.

1100
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,760
We'd go to the kitchen, we'd
grab the same cup, make the same

1101
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,920
cup of coffee.
We're living on autopilot.

1102
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,560
Yeah, some things change within
our day, but for the most part,

1103
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,040
you'd grab it, go into the, you
know, the car you drive to

1104
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,240
school, drop the same thing.
So.

1105
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,200
But when I, when I do it and I'm
like, it's interesting because I

1106
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:36,560
started doing it because I'm a
wimp.

1107
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,680
Like I, I, I, I my biggest, my
biggest flaw as a human being is

1108
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,600
that I'm afraid is that I don't
have enough confidence myself to

1109
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,240
handle the unknown.
I don't feel like I could handle

1110
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,600
it right.
Even though I, I know

1111
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,160
intellectually I probably can.
Most of the time I don't feel

1112
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,400
that way.
Like my brain and my and and how

1113
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,560
I feel.
Do not line up.

1114
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,360
Gotcha.
No, no, I understand.

1115
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,760
And this has been so beneficial
because when I started, when I

1116
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,320
started training, I started
rolling.

1117
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,640
I would give up, but what I was
I.

1118
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,880
Call them crotch sniffers.
Yeah, that's me, dude.

1119
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,240
And I was thinking, dude, I had
too many crotches in my face,

1120
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:13,920
that's what.
Jorge Masvidal would say the

1121
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,600
Jorge Masvidal.
No, you know how her Masvidal is

1122
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,560
the the fighter.
He's from Miami.

1123
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,840
He would fight with Kimbo, slice
the backyard fights.

1124
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,080
Dude I started following
fighting a year ago.

1125
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,520
So he was in the UFC when oh I I
love.

1126
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,960
I look him up.
I love dude.

1127
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,800
Yeah.
What do you think over this past

1128
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,560
this past fight?
Of Bilal Muhammad.

1129
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,240
Muhammad Yeah.
I'm not even going to say

1130
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:37,480
anything because we're alive.
He.

1131
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,760
Lost.
I'm just going to say that do.

1132
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,360
You think he's a good fighter?
Do you think Bilal is a good

1133
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,560
fighter?
No, he's boring.

1134
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,960
He doesn't finish any fights.
He can't even finish his

1135
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,680
girlfriend probably.
And yes, no, actually his

1136
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,800
actually his most his fight, his
most exciting fight was this

1137
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,680
last one and he lost.
Yeah, imagine.

1138
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,120
And I'm not here just talking
shit, but he just so I like

1139
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,160
fighters that are going to give
you more action like a Charles

1140
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,240
Aleveda.
Or by the way, oh, there's not

1141
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,360
going to last.
I don't think he's going to last

1142
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,000
a round against the poirier.
I don't know.

1143
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,320
The Poirier is going to be more
in a round.

1144
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,760
Because the four years younger
Temporia is hungrier and he's

1145
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,520
just such a piece.
But, and I love to.

1146
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,120
For running, dude.
RIA has a facility, hyperbaric

1147
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,480
chamber, all the red light
therapy, eyes, everything you

1148
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,720
can name this.
Guy does.

1149
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:30,320
How do you know that?
Because he has this whole thing

1150
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,080
on YouTube and.
Dude dude I'm so sad that he's

1151
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,880
not fighting Islam yet but.
Islam walked away.

1152
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,880
He vacated you think you.
Think that Islam is afraid of

1153
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,680
him.
I don't, I'm not going to use

1154
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,160
the word afraid because I don't
think no fighter.

1155
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,160
I don't think no, no fighter
that's in the UFC, you could say

1156
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,440
that they're afraid of a fighter
because you wouldn't be a

1157
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,720
fighter if you're afraid of a
fighter.

1158
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:52,240
You wouldn't be.
But you are.

1159
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,080
You, you might have a little
respect for somebody and you

1160
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,880
might be a little intimidated,
but it's just looks like if

1161
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,080
you're a shark diver, you're not
scared of sharks.

1162
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,160
Yeah, You know what I mean?
There's sharks that are more

1163
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,520
scary than others but you jump
in the water with.

1164
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,200
Olivera.
I love Olivera, dude, I think.

1165
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,120
I don't think he's.
So complete everything.

1166
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:14,080
He jumps, clearly he stands up.
If you want to stand up the

1167
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,400
whole time, he'll stand up with
you.

1168
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,280
The whole yeah.
But then there's guys that want

1169
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,480
to hug the entire time because
they know on the feet they can't

1170
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,200
win, so then they're going to go
straight for the takedown.

1171
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,160
Do you grab?
The leg do you?

1172
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,760
Anything.
No, but I, one of my really good

1173
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,600
friends is Sydney Outlaw.
He fought for Bellator MMA.

1174
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,640
No way.
Yes.

1175
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,600
And I trained him for a while.
I trained him for one of his

1176
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:32,920
fights.
He.

1177
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,520
Physically tell like.
No, so we do strength training.

1178
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,400
I don't do the fight training,
but I do the strength training.

1179
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,000
So I do strength for him for a
while.

1180
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,720
Really.
Yeah, I was a strength training

1181
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,760
coach for a while.
Right now he's training out of

1182
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,160
Killcliff, which is where Jack,
Dylan, Malena and all these

1183
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,240
other fighters go training
Killcliff.

1184
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:51,360
There's it's out of Deer.
It's like Deerfield.

1185
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,320
Or oh dude, I just thought
Michael Chandler fought out of.

1186
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,560
Deer.
Yeah, killed all of them.

1187
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,320
Fight out of kills.
Yeah, he fights.

1188
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,280
He's really good friend of mine.
Yeah.

1189
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,960
I think I'm going to see him
this week and we're going to go

1190
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,600
swimming.
This week, dude.

1191
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,880
OK, cool.
That'll be an interview right

1192
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,360
there to grab.
It dude, I'm not going to say

1193
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,480
anything but.
I think you said that out later.

1194
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,520
We'll trade, we'll trade, we'll
trade for a DEXA dude.

1195
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,600
So.
Oh, man.

1196
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:21,560
So yeah.
So anyway, I think that.

1197
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,400
So one of the things I noticed
that when I started rolling was

1198
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,560
that I would roll.
I would see what they would do

1199
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,160
to me.
I'd ask them what they would do

1200
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,760
again slowly so I could
understand what was happening.

1201
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,440
And how do I say what do I, what
do I, what do I, what would you

1202
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,760
do if you're in my shoes?
This whole.

1203
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,840
Time, right to get out of it,
yeah.

1204
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,600
Or what, what, what are you
doing when I'm doing this, that

1205
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,360
this is right or wrong?
And now when I'm rolling after a

1206
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,360
month and you know, I mean,
obviously it's a lifetime to go

1207
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,560
after a month, I'm just like I'm
when I'm fighting, I'm not or

1208
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,600
when I'm rolling, I'm not
rolling just blindly, just like,

1209
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,000
let's see what's happening.
I know I have like, oh, I know

1210
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,080
what my arms, my arm, my arms
are supposed to be tucked.

1211
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,120
I don't want to get into my
arms.

1212
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,280
I know my neck, my chin is
you're.

1213
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,400
Aware you're creating awareness.
Correct.

1214
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,640
And and and I'm not flighting.
I'm fighting like my like my I

1215
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,480
in the moment.
The moment slows down and I say

1216
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,080
OK.
Right, everybody, You're not

1217
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,880
flighting.
You're not right?

1218
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,680
Panic.
Scared.

1219
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,880
Correct.
That's what I that that was my.

1220
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,880
That is my.
For the heart racing super fast

1221
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,000
when you're at that moment
that's my default that's that's

1222
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,880
but that's everybody's that's
not doing the still the top

1223
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,960
fighters, you know in their
highest level their heart rate,

1224
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,240
you know still skyrockets every
now and then.

1225
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,480
It's it's normal because I asked
my friend that he's like, yeah,

1226
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,600
it's still, you know, it just
happens.

1227
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,840
It just happens.
It's part of it.

1228
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,280
But you learn to know it's
normal, right?

1229
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:40,400
Yeah.
You know what I mean?

1230
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,560
It's like I'm feeling this way,
the whole perspective, but I

1231
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,560
it's OK, but it's OK that I feel
this way.

1232
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,240
Now.
Let me just figure out my

1233
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:51,560
situation and then make a
decision and act upon.

1234
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:55,640
And I remember at the time that
I started, I was having another

1235
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:56,960
little bit of rough patch with
work.

1236
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,560
And the way that I was
approaching, sure, please.

1237
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,440
The way that I was approaching
it also here, the way that I was

1238
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,080
approaching it, I wrote that
earlier.

1239
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,000
The way that I approached it was
is I lost my trade of thought.

1240
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:17,480
Now the way that I approached it
is when I have an issue my

1241
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,680
issue, my response would be this
is bad who can I go to rectify

1242
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,920
it?
Who can I go to to rectify it

1243
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,120
not what can I do to fix the
problem.

1244
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,520
And after I started training, I
started thinking about things

1245
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,000
not as who can fix my problem
for.

1246
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:35,600
Me.
How can I?

1247
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,640
What can I do?
Yes, to maneuver my way out of

1248
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,840
this?
And I think that that's really

1249
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,840
what the ultimate value is, is
that it gives you.

1250
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Again, there's two things that
are really important.

1251
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,080
There's discipline and there's
autonomy and license and like

1252
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,800
the feeling.
That actually brings the

1253
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,960
confidence, which is what we
were absolutely we all all.

1254
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,440
Beginning all.
The and I don't feel how

1255
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,680
confident you are.
You are because everybody, Oh

1256
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,320
yeah, I'm super.
There's still lapses and moments

1257
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,080
where we lack a certain
confidence and we have to be

1258
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,800
like, oh, we got to bring it
back.

1259
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,680
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's it's very normal.

1260
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,360
That's why priming is great in
in all aspects.

1261
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,800
Timing is so yeah, so can you.
Why don't you just explain

1262
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,120
priming just in case anyone
doesn't know.

1263
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,360
What that is Priming.
So priming is pretty much doing

1264
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,080
something before an activity or
something just to get you ready

1265
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,280
for it.
For example, a great way of

1266
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,760
priming is an ice bath.
Interesting.

1267
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Why to an ice bath?
Why?

1268
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,000
Because when you jump into that
ice bath, your whole body goes

1269
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,320
into shock.
Your vagus nerve activates

1270
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,800
completely.
What's your vagus nerve?

1271
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,400
What your vagus nerve is right
here located in and it pretty

1272
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,160
much controls your your, your,
all your hormones and your whole

1273
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,440
entire body.
And it's activated or shut down

1274
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,200
when you happen.
So, and it actually completely

1275
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,880
activates it.
OK, yes.

1276
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,160
So when it activates it, you're
it's like you're awake again.

1277
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,640
So when you come out of the the
ice bath, you're extra awake.

1278
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,680
You're extra awake.
So, yeah, interesting.

1279
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,040
So now you go sit at a meeting
and you're going to kill that

1280
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,240
sales call because you're
everything.

1281
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,560
You're thoughts, you're not
guessing words, you're not

1282
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,880
missing, you know, moments and
lapse of judgement in your

1283
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,240
memory because your brain is so
fired up because you literally

1284
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,360
took it from zero to 100.
You didn't jump in the warm

1285
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,920
water and then turn it cold.
No, you jumped into freezing

1286
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,280
cold water and your body hung.
Out in it, yeah.

1287
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,280
What the hell just happened?
Not only mentally but physically

1288
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,840
inside what's happening?
Think about it like a machine

1289
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,600
starts to pump in a bunch of
like water.

1290
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,360
This It's trying to make you
warm so you can freeze to death.

1291
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,360
So out of my son it starts
working overtime to try to keep

1292
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,280
you warm so you don't freeze.
So interesting.

1293
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,960
So internally, a bunch of stuff
that we can't even describe

1294
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,320
what's actually happening inside
of.

1295
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,320
Us, but it's making us way
better.

1296
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,520
But it's making us way better.
So that's a way of priming.

1297
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,600
Another way of priming is first
thing in the morning, doing

1298
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,640
something is getting you
properly in your mindset to

1299
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,080
tackle whatever they're after
you're going to do.

1300
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,280
There's a way of doing things
called habit stacking, which I

1301
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,280
read from a book called Atomic
Habits.

1302
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,760
Atomic Habits.
Thank you very much.

1303
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,040
Yes, yes, yes, stacking.
And it's exactly this.

1304
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,760
Prime yourself first thing in
the morning, then to do

1305
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,720
something that you needed, you
know, let's say drop off the kid

1306
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,560
at school.
And then from there put

1307
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,440
something after that activity
that you normally wouldn't go

1308
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,720
do.
But since you're already out and

1309
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,680
about, yeah, might as well go to
the gym afterwards.

1310
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,000
Yeah.
Don't go home.

1311
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:20,880
Yeah.
No, no, no.

1312
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,680
So stack that habit on top of
the other.

1313
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,440
So you're already taking your
kids to school.

1314
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,280
That's no effort that you're
going to take your kids to

1315
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,440
school because you're not.
You're not.

1316
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,160
You're going to not stop taking
your kids to school.

1317
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,800
You know what I mean?
Yeah.

1318
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:30,640
So.
So what?

1319
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,480
So combined responsibility with
with your own kind of sense of

1320
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:36,760
going out there and doing your
own thing.

1321
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,200
Right.
So that's a way of priming to as

1322
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,800
well.
You know you're getting ready

1323
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,000
for the next thing.
So things don't, but we could

1324
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,360
be.
Primed for different things too.

1325
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,160
Absolutely.
I know that, for example, by the

1326
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,320
way, huge I'm hopefully I'm
speaking, I'm meeting up with

1327
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,200
early early next week someone
that specializes in porn

1328
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,760
addiction and and sexual health,
right.

1329
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,320
Wow, porn addiction is a massive
issue especially.

1330
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,760
Nowadays is.
True.

1331
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,560
And more than before, right back
in my day, we're back in my day,

1332
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,080
we had my, my friend's dad when
we were little kids, a Playboy

1333
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,040
magazine that could steal from,
you know, the, the guest

1334
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,720
bathroom or something.
And, and it wasn't even like

1335
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:18,040
fully naked, you know what I
mean?

1336
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,480
Now these kids are like, it's
crazy.

1337
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,120
I don't even want to name it,
you know what I mean?

1338
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,520
Disastrous what they're seeing
out there.

1339
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,000
Right.
But we're so, but we're prone to

1340
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,960
it because I know for myself
even that especially when I was

1341
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,160
younger, but even till today,
right?

1342
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,520
If you're scrolling on
Instagram, you're scrolling on

1343
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:37,400
Twitter, something will prime
you to dive in subconsciously,

1344
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,440
correct?
Like.

1345
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,360
A bunch of people going to the
gym nowadays.

1346
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,440
Why?
Because everything, everybody

1347
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,880
with all those videos of the gym
workout videos during.

1348
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,720
I'm you for whatever.
When you go to Vegas, what's the

1349
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,320
first thing when you step off
the plane in casino?

1350
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,320
Casino, first thing you see
slots.

1351
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:58,480
First thing, win slots. 777.
Get you ready, get you ready to

1352
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,840
gamble because we are going to
get you in that mindset.

1353
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,440
You are going.
To rhyming you correct, But if

1354
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,800
we can use this priming to our
advantage, correct Or something

1355
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,800
positive?
Right, so these are tools.

1356
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,040
Tools are either good or bad.
And the way that you use them is

1357
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,880
going to make the is make all
the difference in the world.

1358
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:20,440
So you, so you were bodybuilding
and and and then you're too hard

1359
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,560
on yourself.
You decide to stop.

1360
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,000
I got too, yeah, I got too
obsessive compulsive just and

1361
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,280
this is. 2020.
Yeah, this was before that.

1362
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,600
This was before when I stopped
by building bodybuilding.

1363
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,200
It was a little bit before 2020.
I.

1364
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,400
Want to see a picture of what
you were looking like when you

1365
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,840
were bodybuilding?
If I start scrolling now to find

1366
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,120
a picture.
No, no, find it another time,

1367
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,200
send me another time.
I want to see.

1368
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,800
I, I was big, big and, and not
just big bulky, like I was

1369
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,160
ripped and I had a good
physique.

1370
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,240
You can ask, you can ask.
I had a good physique like I

1371
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,560
could have, I could have made
it, you know, at least I have BB

1372
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,160
pro at the time do.
You have the beard at the time.

1373
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,920
No, I didn't.
I had a little bit of beard.

1374
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,920
I always had a little bit of
beard, but not like this.

1375
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,560
This this is great by the way.
This is when I started.

1376
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,000
This is 2020 to now and I'd
never cut it after.

1377
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:02,880
You didn't.
You didn't.

1378
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,960
Try a bit here and there, but
for the most part it hasn't been

1379
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,520
cut.
It looks, it looks great.

1380
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:08,960
It looks great.
Yeah.

1381
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,040
Because you know, why I, I,
there's certain people whose

1382
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:19,760
beards grow down and, you know,
clean and people, certain

1383
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:25,000
people, my beard goes out like,
almost like it's like poofy, you

1384
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,560
know, out instead of down and.
Right.

1385
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,200
No, mine was terrible.
Dude, I.

1386
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,360
Have to keep it like this
because otherwise it's a mess.

1387
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,840
No at.
First mine went out.

1388
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,880
Oh, did it, yeah.
But after it's this is this is

1389
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,160
years of my beard.
This is five years of beard like

1390
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,840
this crazy long time, you know.
How attached you to your beard?

1391
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,480
Oh my, this is my whole
identity, my whole if I, if I

1392
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,680
didn't have my beard, it was
like, you know, I mean, I think

1393
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,640
you're off for my beard every
day.

1394
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,160
Literally.
Some people can't grow beard.

1395
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,080
Some people.
Dude, you know I was 22.

1396
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,920
Emo has Vishalam and they don't.
You lose all your hair, so you

1397
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,040
got to be thankful of you know
what you have, you know?

1398
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,320
So you quit that and did you
know, did you have a we at that

1399
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,920
point?
Were you not sure what you do

1400
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,320
with your life?
What are you going to do?

1401
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,080
Like, you know.
I was always a trainer.

1402
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,680
I was always into fitness.
I was always in that fitness

1403
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,520
world.
I worked at every brand name.

1404
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,920
Jim, you can name me and I'll
tell you I worked there.

1405
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,480
I worked at La Fitness.
I worked at 24 Hour Fitness.

1406
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,920
I worked at You Fit Are.
They good places.

1407
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,840
All good places.
Yeah, they're the great places.

1408
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,240
I'm not down in them.
They're they're the typical, you

1409
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,440
know, starting gym when you're a
brand new trainer with a, you

1410
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,040
know, a certificate, you go to
Lily Fitness, they hire.

1411
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,040
You get a rich mom that comes
in, they want to see not.

1412
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,080
Even nightly fitness nowadays is
not even the rich mom that comes

1413
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,240
in like now the people that that
really want my brother goes

1414
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,560
there.
They don't go train at these

1415
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,400
places and I'm not trying to
down no problem.

1416
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,400
Yeah, yeah, you know what I
mean.

1417
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,000
They they go try and find
private gym studios like the one

1418
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,000
I have now.
OK.

1419
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,480
I'll see if your own gym.
Not my own gym.

1420
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,800
I, I share this space with
another trainer, his name is Dan

1421
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,160
Palacios.
He has kinetic training, the

1422
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,400
best kinetic training.
Kinetic training is his brand

1423
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,720
that it's just, you know, your
kinetic, your whole body is a

1424
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,000
kinetic chain.
So it's pretty much like a full

1425
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,840
body training stuff.
But that's the name that he went

1426
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,600
kinetic training to the kinetic
training facility.

1427
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,960
That's his brand, that's his
name, and he's been super

1428
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,520
helpful from the beginning to
share the space with me and his

1429
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,840
equipment and everything.
So I want to give him a big

1430
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,760
shout out to that.
Awesome.

1431
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,760
Yeah.
And that's where we've been for

1432
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,440
five years now.
And so that's so.

1433
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,320
You started this five years ago.
Yeah, we both did.

1434
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,040
When in this farm, in this
outdoor location, it was very

1435
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,120
COVID.
I'm riding my bike.

1436
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:38,840
Dan has his workout trailer set
up in the grass in this farm on

1437
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,760
Davie by Western High School.
And I ride my bike inside the

1438
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,840
gym.
I inside the farm and I see

1439
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,840
workout equipment on the floor.
I'm like, what is this?

1440
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,520
You know, so my gym was closed
at the time because it was COVID

1441
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,440
and, and I was not working out.
I was working out at home, you

1442
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,280
know, doing body weight, you
know, stuff and like 25 LB

1443
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,600
dumbbells that I had in COVID
and that's literally what I was

1444
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:05,360
living off.
So Long story short, I meet Dan

1445
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,400
at this farm.
He has his workout trailer.

1446
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,320
He's like, you're a trainer.
I'm a trainer.

1447
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,000
He's like, oh, I'm like, oh, can
I work out here?

1448
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,320
He's like, yeah, sure, you can
work out here.

1449
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,800
Long as he was still training
some of his clients.

1450
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,000
Long story short, I started
training with him there with his

1451
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,560
workout trailer.
The guy that owns the property,

1452
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,480
he's like, oh, you guys are
pretty serious.

1453
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,760
I'm going to, you know, I'm
going to build a structure back

1454
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:26,800
there.
I'm going to turn, you know, you

1455
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,640
guys can use it back, you know,
So we turn that into a gym now,

1456
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,200
Gym and outdoor.
Gym.

1457
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,240
Really.
Dan does affiliate marketing

1458
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,840
with different brands, so he's
gotten a lot of different

1459
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,120
equipment that you don't see in
regular gyms.

1460
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,880
OK, for example like what?
Just different equipment that's

1461
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,720
not your typical.
Like what?

1462
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,200
What is it?
What's the what's what's he

1463
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,760
trying to accomplish with this
new equipment?

1464
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,880
If someone.
Just different modalities.

1465
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,480
It's just different tools to do
like ABS different tools to you

1466
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,240
know, do chest presses, do
overhead presses, just different

1467
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,600
things that you normally.
Would have been feeling

1468
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,520
different.
Is it that you got a different

1469
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:01,800
workout and that's more
effective?

1470
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,320
Yeah, because you have 10
different grips to do pull ups,

1471
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,880
right.
You have three different things

1472
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,720
to do this, you know, I mean
just different that you're not

1473
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,760
going to find a Nelly fitness or
a conventional gym, you know, so

1474
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,240
that's pretty cool.
It's it's outdoors and that was

1475
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,000
a big thing because it was
COVID, everything was shut down

1476
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,280
and this is a private property
outdoors and it was not

1477
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,720
regulated by like, you know, the
anybody to come and like shut

1478
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,960
you down because of COVID mask
whatever.

1479
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,920
So we got away through all that
for the only place that was.

1480
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:29,600
Open.
Amazing.

1481
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:30,920
So you have a lot of people
sign.

1482
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,440
Up.
I had a lot of people sign up.

1483
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,240
So this brings me back to me
saying, well, how we started

1484
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,400
this, Thank God for COVID,
because if it wasn't for COVID,

1485
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,320
we wouldn't be in the gym where
we're at today and I wouldn't

1486
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,960
have met Dan and I wouldn't have
done everything.

1487
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,360
And it didn't just everything
wouldn't have fell into place

1488
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,160
like it did, you know?
So for some people, I heard that

1489
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,280
it was really bad.
They lost family members and I'm

1490
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,560
sorry for that.
COVID, you know it was COVID by.

1491
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,280
The way you lost friends, you
lost.

1492
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,600
For a lot of people it was the
best because they, you know, did

1493
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,080
the business that they always
wanted to do when they couldn't

1494
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,520
do.
And all of a sudden they, they

1495
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,400
made it happen.
You know, they, they, they

1496
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,080
chased that entrepreneurship in
the endeavour or whatever.

1497
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,400
So there was a lot of positive
that came out of.

1498
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:16,200
I think so too, by the way.
I think, I think it was a little

1499
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,800
bit of a glimpse into the
future, like a short term

1500
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:23,680
glimpse into the future where we
could see a world in which being

1501
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,440
present, like literally being in
office is irrelevant.

1502
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,280
And that people could be
productive on their own time in

1503
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,880
their own way.
Or people could be a giant waste

1504
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,440
of space.
And like you realize that they

1505
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,160
really do absolutely nothing
like with their, with their

1506
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,560
time, with their job, with
their, you know, with their

1507
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,240
responsibilities and that they
aren't really necessary at all.

1508
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,680
And I think that like it goes
one way or the other.

1509
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,040
Like people are either really,
really awesome and become, you

1510
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,240
know, really entrepreneurial
like you said, or.

1511
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,920
Or the opposite you're taking.
Two meetings a day.

1512
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,560
We're joining the Zoom because
you have to and your camera's.

1513
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,760
Off right and you're on your
boxers, right?

1514
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,200
You know, boxers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1515
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:03,720
Hang on.
I'm going to take a quick

1516
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,920
bathroom break one second and
we're back.

1517
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,080
Welcome back.
Yes.

1518
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,520
So we're just talking about how
we skipped over a bunch of

1519
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,000
stuff, but that's OK, that
always happens.

1520
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,640
And then.
Yeah, just because if I go in

1521
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,000
detail with every story about
every part of them, you know by.

1522
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,600
The way we'll also do I'm sure
we'll do another episode I I

1523
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,640
found that we.
Could definitely do another one,

1524
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,399
you know, and if we want to go
in specific, maybe if some of

1525
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:29,160
the audience wants to know a
specific stuff, you know first.

1526
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:32,120
Of all, I want to know specific
stuff in general, but I also

1527
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,600
noticed that I like getting
group episodes together too,

1528
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,800
like 3 or 4 people.
So you know what?

1529
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,439
We can actually bring my good
friend.

1530
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,040
You met him, Jack.
He goes to show with me.

1531
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:46,800
He walks with me.
You've seen him when I'm

1532
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,279
glasses.
Yeah, he goes on.

1533
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:50,160
Window washing with art, right?
Yes, yeah.

1534
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,880
With Aaron, Yeah, yeah.
That's right.

1535
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:53,479
Yeah.
Sweet, sweet kid.

1536
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,040
He's your buddy.
Is that not it here?

1537
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,160
So yes, we're we're pretty much
family so.

1538
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:04,319
You're pretty much family.
Yeah, I see you guys hanging out

1539
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:04,960
together.
All the time.

1540
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're not related though.

1541
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,560
Not blood, but we are.
You're brothers.

1542
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,640
We're pretty much brothers,
yeah.

1543
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,439
You're brothers.
I wanted to ask you a couple of

1544
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,960
things, your thoughts or
opinions on a couple of things.

1545
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:30,120
Israel does a similar process
that what you did in terms of

1546
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,240
kids graduate high school is a
mandatory draft.

1547
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,800
Yes, that's why I love that
Israel does that.

1548
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,920
But Israel has to do that
because if not, we wouldn't have

1549
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,560
people to defend Israel because
if anybody, you know what I

1550
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,560
mean?
Yeah, if it was optional, you

1551
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,520
think people would be no, right.
So that's, I mean, yes, you do

1552
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,840
have the patriotic that yes, I'm
going to die for Israel, but

1553
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,000
there's a lot of people that
wouldn't.

1554
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,279
Yeah, sure.
And unfortunately it has to be

1555
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:53,240
mandatory.
So regardless if they do it for

1556
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,120
discipline or not discipline, if
you do it because we got to

1557
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,800
protect Israel, no matter.
What do you think?

1558
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,160
It's better for kids to go to
the Army 7, let's say 18 to 21

1559
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,760
and then go to college or go to
college after high school.

1560
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,240
That's a good question.
And then, and then, and then 21

1561
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,160
to 24 do the army because.
Let me pause Real.

1562
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:16,560
Quick, Yeah, sure.
This is a question because I

1563
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,160
could tell you that the the
sooner that computer is

1564
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,720
programmed, the better.
But I could also tell you look

1565
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,160
what happened to me when I got
out, right?

1566
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,080
That's very young.
That's what I was asking.

1567
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,280
And that computer, this pro
unprogrammed real quick in the

1568
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,640
wrong environment because I
still skipped the step of the

1569
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,560
partying and all that part of
the life that is.

1570
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,720
So that's why I had to pause,
because it's very.

1571
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,200
Important.
So what do you think?

1572
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,760
It goes back to.
Or do you think there's?

1573
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,440
Someone life purpose goes back
to our life purpose.

1574
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,280
Do you think the people she
wants to say I choose to go to

1575
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,200
the Army before or after college
and like give them the choice to

1576
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,840
do one or the other?
As long as you can sign it and

1577
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,080
then you're actually going to
sign it.

1578
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:57,800
Correct.
Correct.

1579
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,960
Meaning you, you become.
That here, you could do that

1580
01:10:59,960 --> 01:11:02,360
here and become an officer,
which is what I should have

1581
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,560
done.
OK, can you explain how that

1582
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,440
works?
My my cousin, he's an officer in

1583
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:08,600
the Navy and he actually flies F
eighteens.

1584
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,600
Cool, really.
Yeah, out of aircraft carriers,

1585
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,600
dude, he's the next person to.
Hook up too.

1586
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,280
Yeah, yeah.
A picture and everything.

1587
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,280
He's a beast.
He's a beast.

1588
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,760
OK.
So he went to the Naval Academy

1589
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,520
and then went to went into the
service.

1590
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,240
So when you go Naval Academy,
you get a degree.

1591
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,920
You get a degree, Yeah.
And what was his degree in your

1592
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,960
cousin I?
Don't know if it was aeronautics

1593
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,560
or something though, but OK,
cool.

1594
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:34,280
Yeah.
The point is he.

1595
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,120
Yeah.
But he went to college first.

1596
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,440
Thing he did, actually, he just
got accepted.

1597
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:40,200
Top Gun.
Get out of here.

1598
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:41,120
Yeah.
What?

1599
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:43,040
Yeah.
That's a real thing.

1600
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,200
Yeah, it's a real thing.
It's not just a movie.

1601
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,000
It's not just a movie.
Top Gun is a real thing.

1602
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,480
It's a real thing, but I'm not
going to say anything else

1603
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:50,280
because everything else would be
confidential but.

1604
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:51,720
OK, wait, what?
What?

1605
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,720
What do they do?
Can you talk about?

1606
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,160
You talk about it's literally
the Top Gun of the Navy.

1607
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,720
It's they're the ones that are
literally take carrying out

1608
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,120
those positions.
They can't think about anything.

1609
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,120
Else, yeah, but I mean that's
there's more.

1610
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,840
What do you.
I really don't know.

1611
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,480
What do you think about
confidentiality after being in

1612
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:09,840
the Army?
Do you think it's bullshit or do

1613
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,560
you think that it's?
I think there's certain there's

1614
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,800
there's some certain level of
respect like this.

1615
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,520
Thank you.
Certain level of respect, OK,

1616
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,080
the people that, oh, I got out
and now I'm going to say

1617
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,080
everything because I think
that's a way of treason.

1618
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,560
I think you'll have a moral
responsibility, absolutely.

1619
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,600
What do you think of someone
like Ed?

1620
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,360
Snowden Now if it's something
that was that you saw that was

1621
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,600
bad going in there, right that
that they're they're high still

1622
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,680
blowing right with that's
different.

1623
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,160
That's different.
Yeah, you think so?

1624
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,160
I don't know, I just still don't
think I'm not.

1625
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:40,560
You know, Ed Snowden is, I'm
sure.

1626
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,000
What do you mean?
Ed Snowden.

1627
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:47,560
No, what it's.
Not Ed Snowden is a guy that he

1628
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:52,040
works for the NSA and he found
out that NSA was illegally

1629
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,000
spotting spying on American
citizens.

1630
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:59,360
And so NSA, NSA is a national
surveillance surveillance

1631
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,920
agency, Security Agency.
You know Ed Snowden is Edward

1632
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,360
Snowden.
And his names I.

1633
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,240
Mean dude, I'm going to send
you.

1634
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,680
I'm going to send you some
articles about him.

1635
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,120
He's on Rogan's podcast.
Tell me about a a Hasidic

1636
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,480
rapper's name.
And I mean, yeah, yeah, but.

1637
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,360
He but, but so but he he found
out the government, that the

1638
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,600
government, the American
government was illegal, was

1639
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:23,800
illegally spying on the citizens
and he leaked that information

1640
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,080
to a couple of journalists.
Was that on shot, Ryan?

1641
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,040
No, that was on shot.
Right.

1642
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,240
No, he's on Rogan though.
I think he was on Rogan twice.

1643
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:34,480
OK, yeah, dude.
OK, got the years and and he's

1644
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:36,120
considered a quote UN quote
traitor, right?

1645
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,920
Because he was giving out
confidential information to

1646
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,320
journalists.
After he got.

1647
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:45,120
But in the information that he
was giving over was that the

1648
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,560
government was doing illegal
things to its own people.

1649
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:53,200
And he ended up and and and he
ended up having to run to I want

1650
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,120
to stick with Scott.
Thank you.

1651
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,560
He ended up running to You have
more, you have one.

1652
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,160
He ended up running to, I think
Japan and Russia.

1653
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,920
And he lives in Russia full time
now, but he wants to come back

1654
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:11,320
to the states, you know, but he,
he quote, UN quote, betrayed the

1655
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,720
government because he found that
the government was doing illegal

1656
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,920
things to the to the citizens.
That's different.

1657
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,200
That's different if, you know,
if because it's doing something

1658
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,240
bad to the citizen, then, you
know, you're trying to

1659
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,920
uncomfort, like when you're just
coming out and you're saying a

1660
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,920
bunch of things that you
shouldn't be saying about, you

1661
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,000
know, maybe missions that were
top secret that, you know, you

1662
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,360
shouldn't be saying.
Yeah, you know what I mean?

1663
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,200
You went in there and you did
something that you shouldn't

1664
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:34,000
have done.
Yeah.

1665
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,200
I showed my high school class
the movie Argo.

1666
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,320
You ever watched that movie?
I think so.

1667
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,880
Now Argo is who's the guy that's
always with Matt Damon, Ben

1668
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,360
Affleck and Ben Affleck plays.
It's based, it's based on a true

1669
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,120
story from 1980 when when the
American embassy was taking the

1670
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,960
people in the in the embassy
were taking hostage and Iran.

1671
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,680
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And the CIA had to come in and,

1672
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,040
and, and there were six people
that that escaped embassy and

1673
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,440
were living in, in Iran, you
know, undercover and the, and

1674
01:15:02,440 --> 01:15:03,760
the CIA had to come in and get
them out.

1675
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,240
Right.
Yeah, yeah.

1676
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,600
And the end of the movie was you
won an award.

1677
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,600
Congratulations.
Everything is confidential.

1678
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,640
No one's a lot to know about
what you did, you know?

1679
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,280
And and he's like, so you give
me your awards, take away the

1680
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,080
award.
He's like, if you think we do

1681
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,800
our jobs for awards, no, you're
not in the right industry.

1682
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,800
You know that you're choosing
the wrong job.

1683
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,480
But I, I, I think I tend to
agree with you.

1684
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:29,880
I think I tend to agree that
giving away information just for

1685
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,720
the sake of giving away
information is stupid.

1686
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,840
Very.
But when you got whistleblowers

1687
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,000
for shit like Epstein and you
know, you got, you got stuff

1688
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,160
like the government spying on
people and stuff like that, you

1689
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,000
know, like that's a different
level of whistleblowing that I

1690
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,280
don't think.
The government, of course, has

1691
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,280
its own little agenda and has
its own thing.

1692
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:50,840
And when we say the government,
we're.

1693
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,840
Talking about this group of
like.

1694
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,600
But there's there's an illegally
and there is something

1695
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,920
underground and believe it or
not, you want to say I'm lying

1696
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,560
there.
There's things that do exist,

1697
01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:03,120
and.
I think the question that people

1698
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,880
generally have is to what extent
it exists and to how and to how

1699
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,680
much does it have, correct?
Like is it a bunch of like, I

1700
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,000
think the biggest concern is
that people tend to think of

1701
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,560
these things.
Is there a bunch of evil people

1702
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,200
like that are bald and like in a
lair, like, you know, like, oh,

1703
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,360
what are you going to do to like
kill human?

1704
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:20,320
People.
Yeah, yeah.

1705
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,600
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK.

1706
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:30,360
So that's and then so, so do you
think that the draft, what do

1707
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:31,680
you think?
What would you think of America

1708
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:32,720
Had a mentor?
A draft?

1709
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:34,720
I would love it.
You'd love it.

1710
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,960
People would hate me for saying
this.

1711
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,280
I would love it.
By the way, I.

1712
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,760
Hope it does.
I hope it happens so everybody

1713
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,320
can literally just harden up.
Everybody's too soft.

1714
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,240
This new generation, so soft,
so, so soft.

1715
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,760
People need to harden up.
These the youth, all the youth,

1716
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,360
they want everything yesterday,
no discipline, no nothing.

1717
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,160
And literally just I think it
should be mandatory.

1718
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,560
And then that way it'll also
make people more patriotic of

1719
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,240
their country of what they live.
This self hating American thing.

1720
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:08,200
Like you see all the time, like
burning flags doing this all

1721
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,240
this like, why are you here then
if you're, if you're doing all

1722
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,640
this stuff like get out just
yeah, it's I can easily buy your

1723
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,440
ticket right now if it sucks so
bad.

1724
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,800
So how about you, you know,
build some some love and

1725
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,760
patriotism through the hardship
of the people that fought their

1726
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,960
lives for this country have gone
through.

1727
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,800
Then then maybe they would have
some respect for this country.

1728
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,280
So there's two responses I have
to that.

1729
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,360
One of them is positive and one
of them is negative, right?

1730
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,640
Because on one hand, I agree
with you.

1731
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,280
On one hand, I think that it
would be very, I think that

1732
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,040
people take things for granted
that are easy to take for

1733
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,320
granted.
And I think that having to work

1734
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,760
for something creates takes away
from that sense of just taking

1735
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,840
it as you know, for face value
and just assuming that that's

1736
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,480
what it is and that it's
actually built on the actual

1737
01:17:59,480 --> 01:18:01,280
hard work of a lot of people,
right?

1738
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:11,800
On the other hand, I also think
that just because you work hard

1739
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,280
and you're sacrificing for your
country doesn't necessarily make

1740
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,120
you right about everything.
And I think that people like to

1741
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,600
play that card.
We're like, oh, you know, I for

1742
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,040
example, I had a teacher.
This is obviously a totally

1743
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,240
different example, but I think
you could, we'll be able to draw

1744
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,560
the parallels.
I did.

1745
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,080
You know, there's a big problem
in the Modern Orthodox Jewish

1746
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:34,040
community where the Mon
Orthodoxy typically only lasts

1747
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,480
about a generation.
I went to, I went to Yeshiva

1748
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:37,240
high school.
Yeah.

1749
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,000
And I went to Yeshiva in Israel,
went to Binghamton, Upstate New

1750
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,800
York College and I noticed that
my high school class where it's

1751
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:49,400
private tuition, 25,000 to
$30,000 a year per kid, right.

1752
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,000
And some of my friends had four
or five, you know, siblings,

1753
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,720
yeah, 6 and yeah, yeah, you
know, and, and, and the parents

1754
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,960
had to had to pay $150,000 of
just tuition.

1755
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,800
Before you talk about the
mortgage, before you talk about

1756
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:00,840
taxes, post your.
Food.

1757
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:05,000
Anything like that, right.
And, and, you know, and, and the

1758
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,840
teachers in the, in this Jewish
world make fifty $60,000.

1759
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,360
And I noticed that in my class
of about 160 kids when I was

1760
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,760
graduating that were, you know,
presumably from religious

1761
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:22,200
families, I'd say about 80% were
religious families, presumably

1762
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,320
about, I would say by the time
we about, you know, three years

1763
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,960
out of out of high school, maybe
7, I'd say maybe 50% of the

1764
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:36,760
class was not observant anymore,
which I think is indicative of

1765
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,560
the education, right?
Meaning if you were taught the

1766
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,320
right things, if you wait, wait.
Wait, so this was what grade to

1767
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,720
what grade this?
9th to 12th grade is.

1768
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,920
High to grade to. 12th, right?
By the time you graduated,

1769
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,320
you're 1718 years old.
By the time you're 21, I would

1770
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,840
say over 50% of the grade is no
longer right, of 160 kids,

1771
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,520
right?
And I was pointing that out to a

1772
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,360
teacher of mine that I had after
I'd graduated, when I wanted to

1773
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:03,840
talk to you about how I want,
why I wanted to go into

1774
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,120
education.
And I and I said that something

1775
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,280
has to change about the
education system.

1776
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,480
That obviously kids don't feel
like they're getting the proper

1777
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:16,640
education and that that's why
it's not, it's not giving them

1778
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,800
the proper foundation.
It's inspiring enough, right?

1779
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,160
Right.
It's inspiring enough, so I'm

1780
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:24,680
not going to do it right.
So his response to me was, hey,

1781
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,440
man, you know, obviously on
those words, hey, man, you know,

1782
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:33,200
you don't know what it's like
working, you know?

1783
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,600
Yeah, working X amount of hours
a week, getting paid X amount of

1784
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,080
dollars, no appreciation,
everyone stepping on you and no

1785
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,000
one gives a shit.
And you know, obviously none of

1786
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,960
this is verbatim, but this is
general gist of what he's saying

1787
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,600
to me.
And he goes and you don't have a

1788
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,520
right to criticize it because
you're not doing the hard.

1789
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:53,880
Work.
That's what I'm doing like that.

1790
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,440
He told me in not in a.
Bad way.

1791
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,880
He told me in a much, in a much
kinder way, but that's what he

1792
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:01,680
said, right?
He said you don't have the right

1793
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,200
to criticize me because you're
not making the sacrifice I'm

1794
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,280
making and you and you're not
doing what I'm doing, so you

1795
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,320
can't comment on it.
And I'm like, but I'm one of the

1796
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,440
recipients.
I'm in the system, right?

1797
01:21:12,440 --> 01:21:16,280
Like I, I, I'm, I'm one of the
people that I could have gone

1798
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,640
either way and I got lucky that,
you know, didn't go the right

1799
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,560
way.
I did go the right way.

1800
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,400
I'm lucky I had right parents
would support the right

1801
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,160
community, the right whatever.
But it very easily could have

1802
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,800
gone 5050.
It's still, you know, I mean,

1803
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,560
you never know, God forbid, you
know, whatever.

1804
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,920
Yeah, a lot of times parents
send their kids there hoping

1805
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,320
that the school's gonna make
them the religious correct that

1806
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,400
that son that they want to have
correct.

1807
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,720
And that's a big problem, too.
That's a huge.

1808
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,040
Problem happy you said that,
dude.

1809
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,320
I mean, how'd you how'd you
realize that?

1810
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:46,200
When did you?
Because everything starts from

1811
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,680
home.
And you, you want your kid to be

1812
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,880
this, this big ribane, you know
what I mean?

1813
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,200
And you yourself are not even
10% of that.

1814
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:01,320
So how do you expect your son to
follow in your footsteps?

1815
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,680
And maybe you are this religious
man, but maybe your approach to

1816
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,880
it is not making it in a way
that he feels.

1817
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,200
So the so that's so that's
exactly the comparison.

1818
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:15,120
I'm going to say, though, in
response to your into your

1819
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,040
argument that everyone has to go
to that, that everyone should go

1820
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,760
to the army or the people that
don't go to the Army don't

1821
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,840
appreciate it.
I think that you don't

1822
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,440
necessarily have like, there's
still the value, like someone

1823
01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:26,640
could still love America, still
love the country.

1824
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:28,760
Without having to go right
without.

1825
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,280
Having to do that and by the
way, I don't like, I think that

1826
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,520
the weights that they carry are
just different weights.

1827
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,400
I don't think that either 1 is
more valuable than the next

1828
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,240
because they have to both
provide perspective.

1829
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:44,520
I think one thing, for example,
that I've really felt very

1830
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,360
strongly recently, right, is
with this Israel Palestine, with

1831
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,440
Israel Gaza war, right, where
obviously I've been, I've never

1832
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:54,640
not been on Israel's side my
entire life, you know, of

1833
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,920
course.
And then I've listened to this.

1834
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,200
I've listened to the voices and
the people that have said like

1835
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,800
Israel has made a point and a
lot of innocent people are dying

1836
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,840
at this point.
And I will say it's really,

1837
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,000
really terrible that a lot of a
lot of innocent people.

1838
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,320
I think it's not finished yet.
And yes, a lot of finished and a

1839
01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:17,040
lot of people have died, but
we're not done.

1840
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,920
And and until the Hamas and all
the people that want to be

1841
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,600
against us for for us being
Jews, then we're going to

1842
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,680
continue to push back, right,
Because if we don't push back,

1843
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:32,120
the difference is if we don't
push back, we will get

1844
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,400
completely, you know, and that
not happen has for Shalom.

1845
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,200
Of course that would not happen,
because the sham will not let

1846
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:37,800
that happen.
Right.

1847
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,360
I don't think so.
That will never happen.

1848
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:40,680
But I think.
That they're saying that it

1849
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,360
just, that's why I think it's,
it's important.

1850
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,800
You know what I mean?
It is important.

1851
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:46,640
I don't know.
I think, I think it's important.

1852
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,640
I think that I think it's
important to, to, I think it's

1853
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,760
the point that Hamas has gone.
I think that they are the worst

1854
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,360
thing for everyone.
I think that do you know that

1855
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:02,680
the, that the Palestinians and
the Hevron Jewish community were

1856
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:07,360
extremely close for hundreds and
hundreds of years, that they

1857
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,360
were like brothers to one
another until like the mid 1920s

1858
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,920
and 30s.
But like, yeah.

1859
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,640
And they were like very, very,
very close, you know.

1860
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,920
And what happened was everyone
props each other up.

1861
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,080
They did business together, they
worked together.

1862
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,760
They, they went into investments
together.

1863
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,240
They, they, they would support
one another.

1864
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,080
They were living on the same St.
as each other and they got along

1865
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,320
beautifully.
Which which is how it used to be

1866
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:31,240
back.
Right, right.

1867
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,320
I think that.
Arabs and Jews lives together

1868
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,400
all the time, yeah.
Yeah, by the way, my, my, and

1869
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,600
you know, my grandmother is my
grandmother's from Yemen, My

1870
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,200
grandma, my, my, my, my dad
started.

1871
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,240
The family Yemen.
We're talking about the Hamas,

1872
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:41,560
right?
Right.

1873
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,200
Exactly, exactly.
That's the point.

1874
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,760
People get it.
Twisted people, people do get it

1875
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,600
twisted.
And because there's very little,

1876
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,840
there's very little discernment,
there's very little nuance when

1877
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,720
it comes to this conversation,
right?

1878
01:24:55,200 --> 01:25:00,640
Unfortunately, I think, but I
think that the point is that,

1879
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,600
you know, like I, as a Orthodox
Jew that loves Israel, have

1880
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,920
lived, I've lived there for a
year and a half.

1881
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,800
I've visited over over 1520
times in my life.

1882
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,960
You know, like I love the place.
I'm going back in a month, you

1883
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,600
know, like I love the place.
You know, I have one perspective

1884
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,840
as someone that's on the inside
and then there's someone on the

1885
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,240
outside, right Has does not have
my.

1886
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,720
Objective never been, by the
way, correct.

1887
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,760
Does not know, and he's only
observed right?

1888
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:32,520
Because you can only sometimes.
But no one should not, you

1889
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,040
should not talk about Israel if
you've never.

1890
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,480
Been so here's my argument
against that.

1891
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,120
Sometimes you need to.
Sometimes when you're in the

1892
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,320
inside, you can't see things the
way that someone.

1893
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:43,760
Else because you're biased,
let's say.

1894
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,400
Not even biased, let's say this
right your own life.

1895
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,440
How many times did you give your
friends advice that it's harder

1896
01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:52,120
for you to follow than it is to
give your friends advice?

1897
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:53,640
All the time.
Because it's not your life,

1898
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:54,600
right?
It's not you.

1899
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,640
Oh, you show a.
Lot of place exactly.

1900
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,160
So there's and there are a lot
of times where you rightfully

1901
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,080
can say, hey, man, I understand
what you're saying, but you're

1902
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:03,760
not living my life.
You're not considering all the

1903
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,040
aspects that are important,
right.

1904
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,040
And then there are times where
like your friends, even though

1905
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,480
he may not realize it is
actually right, it's actually

1906
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:12,040
right.
And you're like, even though you

1907
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:13,880
don't have a quote, UN quote
right to say that.

1908
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,720
That's a good point.
And like, I'd be an idiot if I

1909
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,680
didn't listen to you too, you
know?

1910
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:24,360
So I think that what I'm trying
to say is that there's a value

1911
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,520
to both.
It doesn't mean that everything

1912
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,840
that either side says is 100%
correct.

1913
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,320
But I think that there's always
a little bit of value to being

1914
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:34,640
on the inside.
And there's a lot of, and

1915
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,360
there's a little bit of value to
being on the outside.

1916
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,600
And then the people should
collaborate, right?

1917
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,760
You should say, like, you know,
my mom will tell me, my wife

1918
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,040
will tell me when I'm working
too hard.

1919
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,600
I'm beating myself up and I'm
getting sick.

1920
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,000
And they're like, stop, you have
to rest.

1921
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,680
They're not in my head about why
I'm working hard.

1922
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:52,720
They're not.
They don't know what the anxiety

1923
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,160
I feel about paying a mortgage
and for my consideration and

1924
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:56,600
paying for bills.
They don't know what that's

1925
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,360
like.
But that doesn't mean that

1926
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,080
they're wrong either.
You know, it's always say, oh,

1927
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,840
wait a minute.
They're seeing it from another

1928
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:03,800
point of view.
Correct.

1929
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,920
So, so, so even though, yeah, so
I can't see it from their shoes

1930
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:08,560
and they can't see it from my
shoes.

1931
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,800
But there is one like objective
path where everything does line

1932
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,160
up.
And that is, I'm working too

1933
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,920
hard.
I need to take a break.

1934
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,560
You know, there is one path
between a patriot that, that,

1935
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,520
that, that goes to the army and
dedicates their life to the

1936
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,080
service and lays their life on
the line for the country.

1937
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,480
And then the person that goes to
university, that loves their

1938
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:29,440
country, that never live their
life on the line but says, like,

1939
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,360
we, I think in the value of the
true American spirit, we could

1940
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:35,960
do better.
And we, you know, we, we, you

1941
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,040
know, we want American values or
better values than this.

1942
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,280
And they're both looking at it
from, again, from the inside and

1943
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,240
from the outside, right?
But they could both have.

1944
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:45,880
That I think where they have
that exactly.

1945
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,240
Yeah, Yeah, I get.
I get what you mean.

1946
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,240
So I think that, you know,
that's, that's a long wind,

1947
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,320
that's a long winded way.
But I think that that I think

1948
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,520
that that point is really
important.

1949
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:53,520
I don't think we have enough of
that.

1950
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,400
I think because it's hard.
It's really unpleasant.

1951
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,240
It's really difficult.
Yeah, it's uncomfortable and

1952
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,400
it's hard, you know, especially
like even with that personal

1953
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,880
thing with my, you know, where
I'm working too hard, where I'll

1954
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,320
call my mom and my mom will hear
my voice when I speak to her for

1955
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,040
a minute.
If I answer the phone, I can say

1956
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,880
hello, like it's a long day,
huh?

1957
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:11,680
And then, you know, there's
times where I say hello, just

1958
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,480
think, oh, with that, you know,
tell me what you tell me what

1959
01:28:13,480 --> 01:28:14,640
you've done.
Like, so you can just tell from

1960
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,480
that one word, you know, like
what, what things are like, you

1961
01:28:17,480 --> 01:28:19,760
know, but, but she's still on
the outside.

1962
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,320
And so I, I give a lot of so, so
a lot of times I have to force

1963
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,840
myself to like listen and say,
sometimes when you're caught up

1964
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,360
in something, it's hard to see
things clearly and let someone

1965
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:31,840
else from the outside come.
In and tell.

1966
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,200
You what?
It's like, Yeah, dude, I had

1967
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,880
some of the most painful and
difficult moments, but the most

1968
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,080
valuable moments in my life came
from where I had to force myself

1969
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,360
to make a decision from the
outside perspective and not from

1970
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,800
the yeah, you have to.
Would you break up with someone

1971
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,440
if it's in a bad relationship or
do you have a job that you don't

1972
01:28:50,440 --> 01:28:52,200
like?
Or if you're if those logical

1973
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,640
decisions, these things, Yeah,
where you can logicize just.

1974
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:59,080
Because if you use your emotions
and you'll get stuck in it

1975
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,160
because your emotions will leave
you in that.

1976
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,160
Oh, I this.
Oh, but I missed that person.

1977
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,080
Oh, but I, you know, yeah.
You need to step outside right?

1978
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,080
Then you step.
Outside and you think logically.

1979
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,120
What would I tell, what would I
tell my friend if I, if I was

1980
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,680
sitting across from you and you
said to me, hey, I have this

1981
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:17,040
situation with my job, with my
girlfriend, with my kids, and

1982
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,120
then I'll give you advice.
Am I following that advice that

1983
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:24,840
I'll give you the answer's no.
You got to be like what not man,

1984
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,360
what's going on?
Are you are you not being honest

1985
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,000
with yourself?
You know, that's really where

1986
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,040
the.
And that's why it's like, you

1987
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,320
know, being a trainer, it's,
it's important to, you know,

1988
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,760
practice.
How many people do you train?

1989
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,200
How many people do you train at
a time?

1990
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,080
At a time 1 ideally, sometimes 3
or 4 depending if the group

1991
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,640
session.
I used to do the big group

1992
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,920
sessions in a gym called Fight
Club, like the movie Fight Club

1993
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:49,000
back in in 20/20/19 before COVID
hit.

1994
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,920
That's where the gym where I was
at.

1995
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,880
Yeah, this Fight Club gym.
It was so cool.

1996
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,240
What was the Lexing gym?
Yeah, it was the old, like

1997
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,320
Raggedy, you know what I mean?
Like like warehouse.

1998
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:00,160
What's?
So cool.

1999
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,160
Yeah, with a big boxing ring in
the middle.

2000
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:04,520
You know, you know, to throw a
punch.

2001
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:05,440
Can you throw a punch?
Yeah.

2002
01:30:05,480 --> 01:30:06,680
Yeah, I could do my
combinations.

2003
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,480
I would do boxing classes and
everything.

2004
01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:12,160
It was we had like 80 punching
bags, heavy bags and I and I

2005
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,400
would be the one teaching the
class with like a microphone and

2006
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:15,000
everything.
Throw it.

2007
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,320
All right, 1236, you know,
different combination.

2008
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,800
Have you got a fight before?
I know I haven't like, fought,

2009
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,000
fought like.
Have you gotten punched in the

2010
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,480
face before?
But I have gotten punched in the

2011
01:30:22,480 --> 01:30:23,880
face.
I've punched in the face, so I.

2012
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:25,560
Like, can you tell me about
either one of them?

2013
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,000
It was like getting punched.
It was like punching someone in

2014
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,200
the face, getting.
Punched.

2015
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,760
It was a big, you know, fight
that broke out.

2016
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,840
Everybody started swinging and
of course you got to

2017
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,200
participate.
You jump in and and when someone

2018
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,720
hits you, do you feel it hit you
in your cheek?

2019
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:40,840
It hit you in your ear?
In your.

2020
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,440
Cheek stomach, because they just
started it started happening

2021
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,080
really just and then you just
start fighting back and next

2022
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,360
thing you know you.
Feel anything or is the no you?

2023
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,280
Don't feel it.
First couple blows.

2024
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,480
No, the first one you do feel,
but after that first, that's it.

2025
01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:56,040
That's it.
Because you just turn into a

2026
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:59,120
gorilla, really.
All one time I tell people I do

2027
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:03,520
regret one moment that it was in
South Beach and I had a

2028
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:10,920
girlfriend at the time and she
decided to to ask some guy, oh,

2029
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,160
can you take a picture of me?
The guy's like what?

2030
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:18,520
I look like a photographer.
So then she was the type that

2031
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,760
wasn't the best for me,
obviously.

2032
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,240
And she was a bad influence.
And she's like, oh, this guy.

2033
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,120
Like she hyped the situation
worse than it was.

2034
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,880
OK, Can you believe this guy?
He said, oh, I'm not a

2035
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,880
photographer.
This.

2036
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,360
And then they, like, he insulted
me.

2037
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,960
Like he just said, hey, I'm not
taking the picture, you know,

2038
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:36,200
whatever, you know?
Yeah.

2039
01:31:36,440 --> 01:31:39,840
So I go, you know.
Go away, you got all fired up.

2040
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:45,160
And then he's like when he
throws a glass of water on the

2041
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,600
girl's face and then I go and
start punching.

2042
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:49,680
No way.
No.

2043
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:54,640
Kids drops, I run out.
They got bouncers chasing me.

2044
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,160
What is it?
What does it take when you, when

2045
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:57,400
you're throwing that first
punch?

2046
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,280
Is your mind blank?
Are you thinking?

2047
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,200
No, I knew.
Exactly what I was doing and I

2048
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,480
was aiming exactly really,
because I was pissed at the

2049
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:08,800
time, but because, you know,
people can get you into the

2050
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,520
wrong space when you're young
and you're tend to be in these

2051
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,280
relationships and girls tend to
do that when you're in here in

2052
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:18,160
19/20/21, you know, seriously,
they, they just see, oh, let me

2053
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,000
see how tough he, how much he'll
fight for me.

2054
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,720
You know what I mean?
It's that, you know, whatever.

2055
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,800
Wow.
So I think I, and I fell for it

2056
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,160
and I ended up, you know, but it
could have been, it could ended

2057
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:28,920
up worse, could ended up getting
arrested.

2058
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,760
It could ended up, you know,
hurting that kid really bad, you

2059
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,920
know, who knows, You know, did.
It hurt your hand to punch him.

2060
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:35,080
No, I didn't feel anything
later.

2061
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,240
I just.
Really I.

2062
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:38,320
Don't know.
I had bouncers chasing me and

2063
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,320
then the bouncers I'm after I ^2
up to one of the bouncers after.

2064
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:45,360
I ran like 10 blocks in South
Beach and then one guy was in

2065
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,680
the parking lot that.
Far I feel like they just give

2066
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,240
up and like.
Because the so that's what I'm

2067
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:50,800
like, why are you still chasing
me?

2068
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,320
And then a guy in the parking
lot's like, he can't touch you.

2069
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,120
He's just a bouncer.
He started recording.

2070
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,360
And then I'm like, why are you
saying he's like, because the

2071
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,640
guy that you punch, he's
unconscious and we're going to

2072
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,680
have to answer to the police
when they get there.

2073
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,280
No like what?
The fuck just happened?

2074
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,480
Wow.
So I'm running.

2075
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:08,320
I don't have my stuff.
I don't have anything.

2076
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,160
The people that I was with left
and stayed in the club.

2077
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,480
I remembered where I parked the
car and I ran to the to the

2078
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:17,200
parking garage and I literally
waited by the car.

2079
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,880
And then eventually the people I
was with went to the car and I

2080
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,640
was able to get in the car.
Wow.

2081
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,640
But just crazy stuff that was
through the gap of those seven

2082
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:25,800
years of the crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2083
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,960
That's that's one of those
moments, Yeah.

2084
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,520
Yeah, I've never had that, dude.
I've never had anything like

2085
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,320
that, you know?
I do have.

2086
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,200
I got stabbed one time in the
back of my hamstring.

2087
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,320
What?
Yeah, when I was in the Navy, in

2088
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,800
a bar fight, actually.
What not stabbed?

2089
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,960
Yes, yes.
But that, that was stupid.

2090
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:48,120
It wasn't even my fight.
Again, I go in, everybody starts

2091
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:49,640
swinging.
You're in a bar.

2092
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,280
You're in a bar in the Navy.
In Florida, somebody.

2093
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:57,280
Somebody's gets up, one of the
cups falls on the floor and then

2094
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,280
I hear it and I'm like, oh,
something's about to go down

2095
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:00,680
over there when I see it's one
of my buddies.

2096
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,680
He's one of my, we have like
different brack mates in the

2097
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,760
Navy.
There's four people inside of

2098
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,360
the the room that you share and
then you have two people per

2099
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,720
rack.
So he's one of the the people

2100
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,000
that share their rack in the
same room.

2101
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,880
And I see him and he's going
going back and forth with some.

2102
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:16,880
So we're the we're the Navy
guys.

2103
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,040
We called normal people
civilians.

2104
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:20,280
Yeah.
He's going back and forth to the

2105
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,320
civilian normal that would have
caused.

2106
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:23,520
It happened a lot.
Yeah.

2107
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,400
It all happens all the time.
And then next thing you know,

2108
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,480
they start swinging.
And then I go over there and

2109
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:30,720
then I start going.
And it turned out that those

2110
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:32,920
guys were involved with like
some like, you know, gang or

2111
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:37,240
whatever, and some guy came out
with a knife and stabbed the get

2112
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,760
out of here right there.
The scar.

2113
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,480
I still have light.
I'll show you.

2114
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:45,560
I literally have a literally a
freaking scar in my hamstring.

2115
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,600
What was your reaction?
What?

2116
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,240
Happened even when my reaction I
I felt something go in but it

2117
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:54,560
was in and out quick.
It was.

2118
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,560
Oh, he pulled in and pulled out.
Yes, but it wasn't even with a

2119
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,760
knife, it was with a with a beer
Bob because he started.

2120
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,600
With the beer.
Yeah, because he started, he

2121
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:04,040
grabbed the beer, Bob.
He broke it.

2122
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,960
Oh, and then he went under with
the, with the, you know, when

2123
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,960
you break up, you know, under
with the, with the.

2124
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,480
Holy crap.
And then pop that not only did I

2125
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:17,840
that you got the whole leg was
bleeding the next day the the

2126
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,920
command found out.
So when the command finds out,

2127
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,640
then you go Captain's mask, the
whole thing.

2128
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,160
You got to go in front of the
the whole thing, explain what

2129
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,080
happened, and I even got in
trouble.

2130
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,400
You got in trouble.
Yeah, because when they find out

2131
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,440
what happens off base, then they
realize, you know, hey, we're

2132
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:35,720
going to do something about it
and they punish you.

2133
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:40,480
So you get, you know, kind of
slap on the wrist, but you get a

2134
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,760
half month's pay times 2 and it
just goes downhill from there.

2135
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:45,600
What is it?
Half month's pay.

2136
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:49,120
Yeah, you they take away your
pay really for like 2 months.

2137
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,120
They just not, not your full
pay.

2138
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,160
So half of it.
So let's say you make 3 grand a

2139
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,000
month, they pay you 1500 for two
months.

2140
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:57,240
That's terrible.
Your punishment.

2141
01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,600
That's terrible.
But how you know how you going

2142
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,560
to live on that?
You're living on.

2143
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,960
I mean, you live on base.
Oh, you live on base, you know.

2144
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,280
I mean, you go to, you go to the
cafeteria, which is called the

2145
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:10,120
galley, you know?
Wow, you think you think

2146
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,800
everyone should do the army?
I think.

2147
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:15,600
Every man should do the army.
Like you, like you said, not

2148
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,560
everybody needs it.
There's a lot of people that

2149
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:21,000
don't, that didn't go to it,
that are patriotic, that are

2150
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,960
smart, that have little lot, but
there's there's a lot that

2151
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,040
don't.
So what I'm saying with

2152
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,560
everybody should go is that
since you can't pick out the

2153
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,200
ones that already don't, they
already do, you might as well

2154
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,280
just make everybody.
Yeah, just you know what I mean.

2155
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,120
The other thing I.
Think would also be great is,

2156
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,520
you know, Israel.
Maybe not make it 4 years, but

2157
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:41,080
make it 2.
Yeah, or like Shiro, me, you

2158
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:42,360
know that is.
What is that?

2159
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:46,680
Shiro me is is what a lot of
Israelis do instead of Army

2160
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,640
Service, where it's community
service.

2161
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:53,000
So it's teaching, it's working
in orphanages, orphanages, it's

2162
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,920
working, you know, it's working
with students that are that,

2163
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,760
that, that are that are that are
new to the country and teaching

2164
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:04,120
them the language and what you.
I think what I think one of the

2165
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:08,240
part of the argument is that
when you just go from like high

2166
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:12,280
school to college and you don't
really and you go to your 22

2167
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,480
years old without any kind of
real experience with what how

2168
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:18,360
the world actually works.
It's not in your best benefit,

2169
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,160
no.
And even if you took a year or

2170
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:26,320
two in between that, those two
points in between 18 and 23 or

2171
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:30,440
22 and you took and you took a
year and you worked and you

2172
01:37:30,440 --> 01:37:34,200
spent the year in Indiana or
Denver or Michigan.

2173
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:35,160
Right, right.
Just, you know.

2174
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,280
Florida, yeah.
And you're, and you're doing

2175
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,440
community service, you're
getting paid and you're getting,

2176
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:41,200
you know, credits you're getting
whatever it is.

2177
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:42,520
You're either getting paid,
you're getting credits, you're

2178
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,360
getting something for your
degree, and you're learning

2179
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,200
about what it's like to be a
teacher in the Bronx.

2180
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,280
You're learning what it's like
to work in an orphanage in Ohio

2181
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,880
and see what it's like in these
communities and that could

2182
01:37:55,880 --> 01:38:00,120
really change peoples lives.
For sure.

2183
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:02,600
All right, dude.
Well, let's I think it was.

2184
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:03,960
Audible.
Yeah, yeah, let's call him

2185
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,200
because I'm, I got to go home.
Dude, it's so much fun having

2186
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,120
you here man.
Hopefully we'll do this again.

2187
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:10,640
6:30 in the morning I got to get
up.

2188
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,280
Hopefully, yeah, hopefully we'll
do this again.

2189
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,520
Maybe we'll do a Group A Group 1
next time.

2190
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,120
Yeah, a little Group One
actually.

2191
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:17,800
It'll be a lot of fun.
All right, dude, thank you so

2192
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:18,800
much for doing this.
I'll send you.

2193
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,440
I'll bring, I'll bring Jack and
then maybe a guest, special

2194
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:23,400
guest.
I'm excited, dude.

2195
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,080
OK, we'll talk man.
Bye everyone.