#110: Fernando Contreras

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Welcome to another episode of
Come Together

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and we're live bro Welcome.
Thank you so much for coming.

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I really appreciate this.
Thanks so much for taking the

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time.
Yeah, of course.

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Thanks for having me man.
Dude, so I so our Buddy Guy

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Levy, I saw you on his Instagram
story, you know that he was,

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that he had just either trained
with you or adjusted you.

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And I went to your Instagram
page and I was like, this guy

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looks so fucking cool.
I got, I want to do a podcast

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with him.
So I hit up, so I hit up guy and

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I'm like, yo, who's who's that
dude?

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You know?
And then he was like, yeah, he's

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he's awesome.
You'd love him.

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Let me set, let me set up the
introduction.

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And you just you, dude, you
your, your, your life seems

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awesome, man.
It seems like it seems like

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you're pursuing all your
passions and you're kind of

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making them happen.
You want to tell us a little bit

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about who you are?
Yeah, man.

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Well, thank you for that.
It it's truly a blessing to be

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able to, you know, accomplish
and fulfill my dreams and live,

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you know, the the life that I've
been dreaming as a child.

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But yeah, no, I'm everybody.
My family are aviators, so it

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was kind of my blood to be a
pilot.

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It was just second nature to me
to do everything that has to do

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with flying and you know, going
through flight school and

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everything, it was just so like,
you know, when you have a smart

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person in class and you're like,
how do you understand everything

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so easily?
That's kind of like how I felt

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in flight school.
Of course I had my challenges

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and everything, but it was just
that one natural thing that I'm

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like, wow, this is like so cool
to be experiencing.

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And, you know, I never really
thought a bit about it in terms

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of, you know, like this is the
best job in the world.

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It was just something I was so
passionate about until I finally

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got in the airplane and, and
like I at this stage in my

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career now, I'm like, damn, this
is the best job in the world.

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Like for me at least, you know,
and you know, that's, that's

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basically how, why I can say
like at least career wise, you

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know, I'm, I'm, I'm living my
dream on that.

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So, but it, you know, I started
off when I was very little and

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just seeing my dad leave like
for flights and things like

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that.
He back in the day in the early

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90s, he was able to take me in
the flight, take in an

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international airline that he
flew for.

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So that's when the real passion
like sunk in.

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I was like, what all these, what
all these buttons do?

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Like why is there so many
lights?

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And just like, you know,
aviation back then was just way

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different, way, way different
than what it is now.

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And yeah, how's that kind of
like, well, in terms of like

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technology, like my dad was
flying an airplane at the time

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where you needed 3 pilots in in
the in the cockpit.

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So you needed a captain and a
first officer and a flight

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engineer.
Nowadays, there's no more flight

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engineer.
So a lot of that stuff on that

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panel that the flight engineer
used to do, like switch

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electrical components to
pneumatic air and where is it

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going?
Where's it coming from?

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All that stuff now can be
handled with two pilots based on

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the design of the flight deck.
So it's, it's a little bit

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different nowadays and the
technology is just absolutely

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insane with how airplanes
operate now and the redundant

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systems that they have.
It's it's really fascinating.

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I'm excited to hear all about
this stuff.

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When did so your SO your dad?
Your dad is a commercial pilot

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international.
Yeah, he's Yep, Yep.

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He's still airline pilot.
Nice.

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OK, gotcha.
And what what did he say when

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you decided to go into it?
Well, my dad first originally

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was like, hey, Are you sure you
want to do this?

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Because this job you're a way a
lot from your family.

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You're going to miss birthdays,
you're going to miss

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Christmases, you're going to
miss a lot of these important

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things.
And you, I just want you to have

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all the details before you make
this decision.

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He was like, Are you sure you
don't want to be like an

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engineer or something?
And I did, I tried, I tried to

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do engineering, but I always
wanted to be a pilot.

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I tried engineering as a backup
just in case.

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I didn't really like the
lifestyle of being a pilot,

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which I, yeah, there was no way
I was going to be like, it's

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very interesting, but being a
pilot I think is way better.

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Totally, totally, totally.
What's the, what's the, what's

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the schooling like?
I have a friend of mine that got

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AI, have a couple of friends
actually that got their pilot's

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license, but I know there's
different degrees of licenses

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and I know it's a fortune,
right?

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Like, I mean, it's like, at
least it was my friend after

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Kyle, after undergrad and his
master's, then he went back to

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Chicago.
He's from Skokie and it took him

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like 2 1/2, three years because
you know, he's paying out of

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pocket and, and paying pay and
getting those flight hours

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apparently like to rent those
little planes.

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It was very expensive.
And he said he loves him more

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than anything in the world.
But he was like, it's like, you

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have to be committed to wanting
to do that because it takes time

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and it takes a lot of money.
Yeah, yeah, you're 100% correct.

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There's a couple ways you can go
about flight school.

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You can go to a mom in pop
school.

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You can go through a university.
In reality, the licenses don't

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take you that long.
If you go through a university,

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you're going to, you're going to
do your full four years and come

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out with the bachelor's of like
aviation science.

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But it takes no, no, no, I went
to a mom and pop school at I did

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it in about like 10-10 months.
To your point where you're

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saying is like you have to go
consistently because if you

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don't then you start losing like
what you learned.

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So if you only go once a week,
you can have to repeat that over

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and over and over again.
What might have taken you a week

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to learn, now it's going to take
you two months to learn because

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you're not going so frequently.
And you know back then there

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weren't as many aids financially
for flight school as there is

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now.
And that is due to a lot of like

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the demand, especially you that,
you know, the industry needs

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right now of pilots.
So certain airlines have created

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like their own flight school
path program to their airline.

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So they offer the financial loan
in the aspect of it out of, at

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a, at a lower interest rate than
would be a, a regular personal

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loan.
And that's made it a little bit

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easier for people to be able to
start fly school.

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But you know, before, like
before that, that started maybe

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like 5-6 years ago.
Before that when I went to fly

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school, there wasn't any of
that.

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So your loan was at a personal
loan rate in that super high.

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But but yeah, you know, like I
had a when I was growing up, I

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did a lot of savings and, and I
was, you know, working since I

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was like 1415 and I saved a lot
of money because I knew that

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that's something that I wanted
to do.

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My 2 main goals with saving
money was to go to fly school

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and buy a house.
So every time I would save, I

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dump it all in flight school and
continue.

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And I was still working part
time.

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I went to FIU for business
administration and I was doing

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my flight school at the same
time and I was working valet

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parking.
So I was trying to pay

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everything as I go.
All my savings went into flight

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school.
I went from zero, started into

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an airline, started saving
again, and then was finally able

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to buy a house.
So I I was able to fulfill those

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two objectives of of of my
savings so.

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Yeah, it's amazing.
Where'd you buy your house?

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Where do you live?
Where's your house?

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It's how it's here in South
Florida.

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South Florida Cool.
Man, and I love it down here.

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I grew up here and I just love
it.

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It's all my friends, family
primarily.

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Everybody's here.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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I've been, I've been in South
Florida for about 3 years now.

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I've always wanted growing up.
I, I, my, my, my dad is

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originally from Miami Beach and
I always wanted, I always said

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going and we used to visit a
bunch.

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My grandparents still live
there.

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And I used to always say I got
to try it out and my wife and I

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got married.
I was working remote and she

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wasn't, she wasn't sure what
she's going to do with herself

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yet.
She's a ultrasound tech now.

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But we're like, you know, we can
go anywhere in the world.

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And we're both from New York and
we're like, let's just, let's

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head to Florida.
You know, you just, you know,

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like right after a week after a
wedding, we just loaded up our

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car with whatever clothes we had
and we just drove down and I

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figured it out.
Damn spontaneous, I love that.

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Nice.
Yeah.

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You know, it's not it's, I mean,
you know, I, we, it was, it was,

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it was cool.
And I've already moved, you

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know, so like probably 5 or 6
different times in my life to

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completely unknown places that,
you know, I knew that South

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Florida was something that, you
know, is pretty, pretty

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manageable as far as as far as
lifestyle, you know, it's I love

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being down here.
So, so you were working that you

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were working in school and what
you're saving is saving the

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money that you were making at
this point.

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And you started working at 14,
you said?

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Yeah.
That's crazy.

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That's crazy.
Did your did your, did your

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family encourage it?
Do you think you you said, you

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know, you just knew that you had
to and like how are you so

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driven at that age?
Man, that's a really good

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question.
I, it was all like initiated by

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me.
I was telling my parents like,

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Hey, I want to work.
I want to make my own.

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Like, I wanted to be as
independent as I could from as

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young as I could.
And nothing that, you know, that

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doesn't influence the, the, the
relationship with my parents or

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anything.
They're always very supportive

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of, of what I would, you know,
try to do.

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But I always wanted to be like,
Hey, I don't really want to be

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using your money.
I want to make my own money, you

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know, and, and then my first job
was working at the YMCA taking

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care of like kids, other parents
want to go work out.

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And you know, I made some really
good friendships there.

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I actually met one of the first
initial personal trainers or the

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person who helped me train
introduce me to fitness through

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that and it and it all just like
went from there.

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I went to work at a different
gym after that and then it all

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and I ended up working for who
is now Tony Robbins personal

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trainer.
Like things like that.

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It's, it's just, you know, that
whole wanting to work, I've

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always had to like really great
work ethic.

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My parents were always like, no,
you need to focus on school And

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and I of course I definitely
needed to, but I just always

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thought I can handle both and
you know, I did.

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But yeah, a lot of that, a lot
of that self was self driven.

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To.
That's awesome.

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Start making money, yeah.
That's awesome.

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Can I ask how many siblings you
have?

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1.
Younger one sibling, younger

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sister.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

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Did you?
So you, you feel like you're

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like the protective one or like,
you know, like you kind of had

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to like be your own man and make
your own way?

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Because that's how I kind of
like I'm the oldest too.

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I mean, I'm the oldest at like
6, but I've always felt like as

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an older, as an older sibling
also, I kind of felt that

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similar guilt, although I
probably started feeling it a

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little like probably closer to
17 or 18, you know, like, hey,

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like maybe everything I do
shouldn't be in my parents time,

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you know, And you know, maybe I
maybe it's time to start kind of

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building my own skill set and
kind of doing my own thing and

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like, you know, really making my
own way.

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But but I always felt that kind
of, you know, leadership or, you

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know, sense of responsibility
just from being an older

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sibling, you know?
Yeah, no, that's a, that's a

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really great observation.
I never really felt it from a

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siblings perspective, just
because I knew that like, you

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know, my, my parents would be
able to support my sister and I

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in whatever education we wanted
to pursue or, or something like

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that.
And, you know, having the

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possibilities to live in the
United States and the amount of

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possibilities that there is here
is, is something that I wasn't

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really too much, I guess felt
pressured by to initiate my own

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building of skill sets.
But yeah, you know, my sister,

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my sister was the same.
She was like, hey, I I want to

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start building my own skill set,
But she focused a lot more on

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the education part.
She's in the in, in the health

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industry.
So she she spent a lot of her

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time studying and studying real
hard.

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You know how that industry is
everybody that's just studying

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night and day.
So, so yeah, man, I think, I

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think it's a really good
observation, but it maybe I got

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to give it some more thought and
see if that influenced.

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The yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah,
yeah.

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You never know what you
discover, you know, so you got

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so you're super so so you're
into you're into flying, you're

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into fitness.
You started working out, you

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know, you started, you started,
you know, I guess getting

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introduced this at 1415, which
is probably one of the best

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things you could do at that
point in your life.

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I see that you fight.
I saw, I saw that you're when

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when you're away from your black
belt.

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Yes.
In which martial art?

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It's actually in Krav Maga.
Nice.

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The school is a mixed martial
arts school, but the main

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self-defense that we learn is
Krav Maga.

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Gotcha.
Yeah, I just started rolling

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jujitsu a couple months ago.
Guy also, I did a podcast.

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I did my podcast with Guy.
I told him that I wanted to

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start because I heard that he
did MMA and he's like, dude, you

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got to come to where I work.
They have an awesome gym and the

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coaches there are awesome.
And I was, you know, I mean,

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I'm, I'm almost 30, you know, to
start, to start this for the

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first time and you're almost 30
was, was, was pretty terrifying,

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but it was the best thing in the
entire world, man.

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Like just just getting that
adrenaline and kind of like

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facing that, you know, a, that
fear of confrontation, but also

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kind of learning in real time
how to slow everything down and

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to just, you know, think about
your individual body parts and

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components and, and let's, and
after doing that, I've kind of

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felt that I've had a much easier
time in the last couple of

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months, even with sales and work
and business and even my own

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personal life, like my
relationship with my wife and

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like my kids.
You kind of look for your own

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ways to solve issues because
you're spending so much time

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with no one there to help you
except for yourself, you know,

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and, and, and this person that's
sitting on top of you that knows

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way more than you do about
anything.

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And you know, and it encourage
you, encourages you to, you

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know, figure out how to, how to
ask questions and how to learn

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and how to figure out, you know,
when you're in a tough spot,

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tough spot and you're thinking
of quitting, you know, what else

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can you do?
And it's kind of a mindset.

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I feel like it translates over
to everything that you do, you

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know?
I agree.

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That was beautifully said man.
And it's just like you can

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transition what you learn from
martial arts into real life.

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Just like how you said, it
improves a lot of your ability

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to think of being resourceful,
right?

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Just like how you said, if
you're in a situation where

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you're stuck, like I started jiu
jitsu as well and in, in, in a

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separate gym.
And there's times where I'm

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like, man, I don't know how to
get out of this.

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If I just give up, what what's
going to come out of that?

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But if you start thinking, you
slow down your breathing, you

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slow down everything and you're
like, OK, I have a little bit of

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time even though I'm super
tired, I'm exhausted.

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Do I have about a second or two
to think, how can I get out of

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this?
Even if it's just not probably

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not the right way to do it, you
still do it.

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And that is teaching you, hey,
still try attempt to do

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something because you never know
what else it can lead you to.

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Maybe you, maybe that movement
gets that person out of the

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perfect situation to get you in
some sort of choke or

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everything.
Now you have space, right?

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And that little amount of space
is enough for you to throw the

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other person off or get out.
And, and, and it's just like

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that, like mentally every day we
go through things that we're

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constantly thinking about.
We're overloaded with

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information daily.
And then we just get to a point

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where we're like, oh shit, I
can't even think straight right

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now for something that it really
matters.

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And that's when you really have
to focus and be like, right,

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this does matter.
And that's the same situation

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when you're like pinned down,
how do I get out mentally?

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It's the same thing, you know
what I'm saying?

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So it teaches you that.
And I think it's, I think it's

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fantastic.
That's what I love about martial

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arts.
Yeah, yeah.

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And I think that, I think that
one of the points you just said,

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I think that is really, really
valuable is when you're stuck to

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give yourself a second to
breathe and to not like like

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that second of like, that's like
one thing that someone was

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teaching me the other day.
I went back, I went back and I,

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I, I had like you were talking
even about like the flight

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school have muscle memory.
And the more time you spend

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practicing, the more that you
know it, it really becomes

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ingrained in you.
I've done this, I've done

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jujitsu for like a month and
change.

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And I went on a two week break,
which is the worst thing to do.

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I come back and I just felt like
my entire body was just out of

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sorts, right?
And I was totally disconnected.

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And I'm talking, you know, I'm
asking a guy that's obviously,

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you know, phenomenal, you know,
way better than I am.

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And, you know, we're rolling and
he goes, So what are you going

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to, you know, what can I do?
He's like, dude, you're rushing

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everything.
He's like one step at a time.

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There's no rush if you're in a
fight, like think just like, you

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know, like be aware, like, you
know, like I your instinct is

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like to like flood your brain,
you know, just to like rush at

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something or to like, you know,
move as fast as you can.

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And I've actually noticed that
that's with a lot of things I

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noticed also, I'm a huge music
fan, right?

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And some of the best singers and
some of the best covers, some of

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the best songs that I've heard
performed are just done slowly.

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And then, and then when
someone's nervous, I don't know

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if you're, you know, when
someone's nervous, they speed up

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what they're saying, they talk
faster, They, they, they, they

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sing faster, they play faster.
There's something to be said

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about the art of just slowing
everything down.

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And that's a breathing helps, I
guess.

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But you know, but I, but if you
can, you know, when you start

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implementing that into one part
of your life, like with training

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or rolling, and then you and you
know, and then you move on and

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you go back to, you know, your
house and you got to, again,

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this happened to me all the
time.

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I got work calls from upset
customers.

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I sell medical equipment, right?
And if they're upset, you know,

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my initial reaction is to panic
like, and I like, dude, what are

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you panicking for?
They're probably just as nervous

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to be confronting you as you
are, as you are dealing with

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them.
Just take a breath, have a

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conversation with them, show
them you understand what they're

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thinking, show them understand
where they're coming from and

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see how you go work it out.
And like, and, and every single

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time I've done that since then,
and this is, you know, just

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something that I've learned from
rolling, you know, every single

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time I've done that since then,
it's really, really changed the

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dynamic of my, you know, you
know, in terms of my ability to

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be a salesman and like, you
know, a businessman.

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Yeah.
And don't, don't, don't you find

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that in that moment where you
are in that situation, it

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actually instead of becoming
more stressful, it becomes more

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enjoyable because you have a
different outlook on it, right?

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I think, I think if you can
enjoy those certain times in

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your job, it makes the quality
of time in your job a whole lot

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better.
Would you, would you agree with

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that or?
Yeah, for sure, man.

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I mean, imagine, I mean, if your
entire job is, you know, afraid

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to answer the phone because you
don't want that, you don't know

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the other person on the other
end of the phone is going to be

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saying to you, you know, that's
a pretty miserable way to live.

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If you take, if you answer that,
if you answer the phone like

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you're collaborating with
someone, it's a totally

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different experience, you know,
and, and as I go with everything

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in life, you know, like even
most conflicts I've realized are

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just an exam are just people
trying to emphasize their points

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and feel like they're not heard.
Like that's like 95% of the

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conflicts that out that out, you
know, personal business,

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whatever.
It's like if you, I've noticed

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that if I just tell people like,
if I'm able to repeat to them

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what their concern is and say, I
totally understand where you're

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coming from.
And I'm, you know, and, and

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this, this and this, and here's
where I'm coming from.

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That's why, that's why, you
know, that's why I said what I

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said or I did what I did.
And I'm sorry about the

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miscommunication.
There's something there.

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There's nothing there to argue
with, you know, like, and then

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it just turns into, and then it
just turns into collaboration.

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I think it's awesome.
So tell me dude, a little bit

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about so so you so you finished
flight school and you've been

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flying for how how long you been
flying for now?

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Let's see, eight years now,
2014.

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And do you and do you have a
commercial license?

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Do you have a what kind of?
What kind of planes do you fly?

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Yeah.
So I have what's called an

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airline transport pilot license,
and that's basically after your

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commercial and you have built
enough hours to qualify for this

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license, you can fly for
airlines pretty much.

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So I fly, yeah, I fly for
American Airlines and I am on

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the Boeing 737.
No way, really.

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Yeah, 737 is international.
That's the one that they take

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internationally.
We so we do some international.

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So our route, my routes
primarily are Caribbean, South

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America and Central America.
South America we don't go so

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deep.
The lowest or the most S that we

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go is probably like Keto or
Guayaquil in Ecuador, but we do

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a lot of Colombia, we do a lot
of Central America like

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Guatemala, Costa Rica, Panama,
Honduras, El Salvador.

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On the Caribbean side, we go to
almost every island that there

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is in the Caribbean.
And then we do a lot of domestic

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stuff.
That plane carries about 172

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passengers depending on the
configuration that we have.

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We have the Ng and also the Max,
the 737 Max, so either 1, the

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Max has a little bit more range
and it's also a lot more fuel

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efficient.
So most of the time that we go

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South towards Ecuador, we
normally take the Max and the

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next step up after that, the one
that goes like really Far East

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or West is you're looking at the
Boeing 777 or the 787 that's on

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the Boeing side.
We, our airline only has those

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in terms of like what we call
wide body aircraft, but Airbus

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also has what's called wide body
aircraft and you'll see a lot of

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them being used by like Delta
and United as well and they're

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the Airbus A-350, the Airbus
A330.

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Those are wide body aircraft too
that you know do that long range

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kind of flying as well.
Right, right, right.

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But so what's the, what's the
new Dreamliner like?

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I just flew to Israel and to
Amsterdam and, and I mean

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obvious, listen, I, I, I, I get
a little nervous flying.

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I've obviously noticed that the
bigger plane you fly, the less,

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the, the, the less turbulence
that you experience.

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But I've also heard the
turbulence is, is not

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necessarily a bad thing.
I, I, my friend that was the

443
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,320
pilot was telling me that a lot
of times pilots fly into

444
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,920
turbulence, into turbulence on
purpose.

445
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,600
Is that true?
I don't know if that's true that

446
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,920
we fly to turbulence and
purpose.

447
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,880
I mean, honestly, I'd rather I'd
rather not.

448
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,720
I'm trying, I'm trying to have
smooth air for the comfort of

449
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,120
everyone, right.
But there are times where it's

450
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,640
pretty much like you are unable
because the air is so disrupted

451
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,000
that we're we're flying in.
You got to remember like up at

452
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,960
altitude, there are there's a
lot of things that affect air in

453
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,320
the transition of a flight.
So when you take off, you're

454
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,240
going.
Through what does?

455
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,240
What effects?
It a lot of things, so wind

456
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,240
effects it pressure effects it
fronts, you know, we see there a

457
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,440
low pressure area or high
pressure area, cold fronts, warm

458
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,520
fronts.
Then you have winds where the

459
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,640
winds coming from, if they're in
the winter, you have jet streams

460
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,400
like all of these things that
push air in different directions

461
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,960
as you're moving cause
turbulence.

462
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,720
So turbulence is literally just
the like, not smooth air flow

463
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,280
over the wings.
The air becomes turbulent, it

464
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,440
breaks up, it's in different
directions.

465
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,480
So what happens is over the
wings, the air is not smooth, it

466
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,800
just starts to kind of break
apart a little bit earlier than

467
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,320
than expected on, on a certain
part of the wing.

468
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,680
And what happens with that?
That's where you start feeling

469
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,280
like a little bit of like
shaking.

470
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,160
And you know, some sometimes
you'll feel like a like a kind

471
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,680
of like a big drop.
Those are like pockets of

472
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,520
turbulence that you might get.
But in reality, turbulence is

473
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,640
not, there's different
categories of turbulence.

474
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,560
You have light, moderate,
severe, severe and you know, you

475
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,560
obviously don't want to go
through severe, but if you're

476
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,560
going through a light
turbulence, that's not, you

477
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,400
know, that's nothing that bad.
Airplanes are designed to

478
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:11,080
sustain loads of extreme
turbulence and some, you know,

479
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,960
So what the scary feeling is the
acceleration your body's going

480
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,360
through from being in one
certain area, moving through

481
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:26,240
space to changing the direction
to dropping lower drop or, or

482
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,160
raising up or moving left to
right.

483
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,680
That doesn't feel good in the
body for some people.

484
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:32,800
And that's what's kind of scary,
right?

485
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,760
That sends a message to your
brain saying like, oh, shoot,

486
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,880
what's going on?
Like that's not what we were

487
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,600
feeling right now.
It's the same thing.

488
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Like, I don't know if you've
ever gotten in like go karting

489
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,640
or you gonna like in a really
fast car around a track, the

490
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,640
acceleration and the braking
doesn't, I mean, it doesn't make

491
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,240
you feel good initially.
There's so much difference of

492
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,040
acceleration.
It's almost kind of like the

493
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,080
same thing.
But my question to you is, why

494
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,760
do you think that it's better to
fly in bigger planes than in

495
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,040
smaller planes?
Is I've because to me that's

496
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,440
just a mental thing that people
create in their head, that the

497
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,720
bigger that the airplane is,
that the less turbulence they're

498
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,040
going to feel.
Is that?

499
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:18,720
Is that what you think?
Well, yeah, the so I I'm kind of

500
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,320
basing that on it.
So I have yeah, based on that

501
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,840
experience that.
So it's actually funny.

502
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,000
So there's there's two, I guess
there's a couple of things that

503
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,120
I'm immediately thinking of,
right.

504
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,400
Number one is I've flown on a
private plane once before from

505
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:41,040
New York to Vegas and the, and
I've and we had a lot more

506
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,000
turbulence on that little plane
than, you know, than I've had,

507
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,640
for example, again, taking that
Dreamliner to, you know, across

508
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,120
the country, across, across the
ocean to Israel or whatever,

509
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:56,520
right.
On the other hand, I also know I

510
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,760
also have, I didn't know this
for a fact, but I kind of just

511
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,080
kind of put it together.
That temperature had a big has a

512
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,160
big impact because I know that
every time I fly back and forth

513
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,880
from South Florida, especially
in the summertime, the 10, you

514
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,280
know, as I guess the humidity
and the heat.

515
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,760
And also I feel like because the
heat in Florida is always almost

516
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,360
feels like it's always about to
like break.

517
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,120
It's always like building and
building and building.

518
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,880
And it doesn't completely break
until like winter again, I

519
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,680
guess, you know, until like
October, November.

520
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,240
But like when you're every
single day, the heat, the

521
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,840
humidity and the heat kind of
build up and build up and build

522
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,600
up.
And I think, and I guess that

523
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,520
causes an impact in the
environment, right?

524
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,640
Like or I guess in the air, but
I just assumed that the bigger

525
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,320
the plane, the more sturdy and
that even, you know, even though

526
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,960
the and I and I guess the more
weight there is, the less thrown

527
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,880
around it's going to get.
That's kind of what I figured.

528
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,160
Does the First of all, you're
100% correct about the

529
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,240
temperature it does affect.
So whenever you're getting into

530
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600
warmer temperatures and there's
lower pressures, there is

531
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,960
instability of air, right?
Instability of air, meaning like

532
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,240
the air is just not staying, the
air starting to move up in

533
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,320
altitude.
Why?

534
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,160
Because there's less pressure.
And whenever there's less

535
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,160
pressure, particles start to
move up.

536
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,320
And then when particles move up,
they start to lose the

537
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,120
temperature, The temperature
starts to drop.

538
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,280
And what happens is those
particles become a little bit

539
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,440
more dense again.
And then they go through the

540
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,400
cycle that they're going, moving
up and down in between

541
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,200
altitudes.
And that's how you start getting

542
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,120
like unstable air and the build
up of storms.

543
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,520
So imagine if you're if this
you're flying straight

544
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,760
horizontally, right?
You're flying straight and

545
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,200
you're about to pass this area
where there's low pressure and

546
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,400
this air is moving up and down
and you're moving horizontally.

547
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,080
So that air that you're moving
horizontally with is now

548
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,120
disrupted because you're now,
because you're now going through

549
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,360
an area of air moving up and
down.

550
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,640
It's unstable.
So that's one, that's just one

551
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640
of the many reasons there could
be turbulence.

552
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,680
Let's say you're flying and that
flight that you were going from,

553
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,560
I don't know if it was New York
or Miami to Vegas.

554
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,560
As you're getting closer to
those mountains, air is

555
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,560
disrupted by those mountains,
right?

556
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,320
There's a lot of air flow that
comes from the northwest and

557
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,760
comes down and drops towards the
southeast.

558
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:30,200
If you have opposing winds for
that day for some reason that

559
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,200
are going against it, let's say
like a low, low, sorry, a warm

560
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,200
front is coming up and it's
hitting that high, high pressure

561
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,960
cold front that's coming in.
You have two pieces of massive

562
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,280
air colliding against each
other.

563
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,080
That air is not going to be
smooth.

564
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,640
It's just like opposing each
other.

565
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,640
It's just hitting each other
like that.

566
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,040
So now you're here coming along,
it's nice and smooth and then

567
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,280
bam, you get this like huge
shake on the airplane.

568
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,320
It's because the airflow was
disrupted.

569
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,800
So if you take it, you can't
really compare size of an

570
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,600
airplane in terms of like, I
took an airplane once through

571
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,920
this route and it was small and
I got a lot of turbulence.

572
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,320
And then I went the other route
and it was big.

573
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,480
I got no turbulence because
there's so many outside factors

574
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,480
that affect what makes an
airplane go through turbulence.

575
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,920
Because if you took that same
Dreamliner that you took to

576
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Israel and you go to Vegas on
that same day, that's exact same

577
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,680
flight, you're going to feel the
same exact turbulence.

578
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Maybe, maybe it'll be the
different.

579
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,800
The feeling might be different.
Because yes, size and stability

580
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,920
does affect how much is felt by
the airplane.

581
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,640
But every airplane is built on
three different types of

582
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,160
stability.
You have longitudinal stability,

583
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,960
lateral stability, and vertical
stability.

584
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,440
That means that if the airplane
is flying along nice and smooth

585
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,240
and it gets disrupted, its
ability to return back to that

586
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,760
neutral position, that's what
airplanes are built on.

587
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,640
There has to be a certain degree
for airplanes to come back to

588
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,280
neutral.
Without touching it.

589
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,720
It'll take some time, but
without touching, it'll come

590
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,800
back.
Obviously if you do manipulate

591
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,080
the controls and bring it back
to neutral earlier, it's

592
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,800
obviously better, but the
autopilot does that as well.

593
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,560
I never thought of air as like a
thing, you know, like, as like

594
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,760
an object, you know, and it's,
it's so cool to think about, you

595
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,680
know, because, because it's
true.

596
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,360
And, you know, and I, I mean,
and even just the difference, by

597
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,080
the way, and I'm sure you, I'm
sure you've experienced this as

598
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,440
you, as you travel, the
difference between the air in

599
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,960
different locations is just,
yeah, out of this world, dude.

600
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,480
I mean, I, I'm in my parents'
house right now in, you know,

601
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,440
about an hour north of Manhattan
and you know, and even though

602
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,840
it's hot, you know, like the air
in the mountains is just

603
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,560
completely, excuse me, different
air than, than in South Florida,

604
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,680
you know, and it's just a
different world.

605
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,880
And, you know, and I guess I
never really thought of it, but

606
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,520
it's a legitimate like medium.
Like it's a real, it's a real,

607
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,720
it's really, really cool.
Are you, are you nervous about

608
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,080
AI taking over all pilot jobs?
Because I feel like I I keep

609
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,200
you're not nervous.
No, I don't think so.

610
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,560
They actually just came out.
They were trying to do this

611
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,640
whole thing in Europe where
they're trying to size it down

612
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,560
to 1 pilot.
And to me, I think that's

613
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,480
completely stupid because
there's still a lot of things

614
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:25,360
that with AI and with technology
right now, you still cannot, you

615
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,520
still cannot do what 2 pilots
can do in the airplane.

616
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,200
Did you?
Break that down.

617
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Well, it kind of really depends.
I'm not quite sure exactly.

618
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,080
Well, first, in terms of you got
to think about this like you got

619
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,080
to think about the human aspect
and the instinct and perspective

620
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,440
on a situation versus a robot
just doing things based on what

621
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,880
it's programmed to do, right?
The robot, if something wrong

622
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,840
happens, the AI will, you know,
go through like, OK, if this is

623
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,320
wrong, then that's going to
happen if this is going to

624
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,080
happen, right?
But there's the element of human

625
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,440
interaction and perspective,
right?

626
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,680
An airplane can be like, oh, I
lost both engines, right?

627
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,720
The AI, the AI computer will be
like, OK, we need to shut down.

628
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,160
We need to do a complete
shutdown and we're going to

629
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,320
glide it and land into the
ocean.

630
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,640
OK.
If you have the, there was an

631
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,880
air can or I think it was
Transat, it was a Canadian

632
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,000
airline that went from Canada
all the way to I believe it was

633
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,720
going to Portugal and it made a
landing and the Azores.

634
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,080
Why?
Because let me see if I can

635
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,840
remember this correctly.
They started having fuel issues

636
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,200
in one engine in the checklist.
They didn't do something

637
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,040
according exactly to the
checklist.

638
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:49,440
The way that the outcome came
came down to intuition of the

639
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,360
pilots and just flying
experience that they were able

640
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,320
to land an airplane without
engines safely in an island on

641
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,480
the runway.
OK, like it's a miracle, but

642
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,760
artificial intelligence could
have been different and it could

643
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,080
have been like, hey, we need to
shut down both engines because

644
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,120
this is what your checklist
does.

645
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,880
And we're going to have to ditch
in the middle of the ocean.

646
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,240
And you know who who knows how
long it's going to take for

647
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,840
rescue to get there Could have
been there could have been

648
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,520
casualties, right?
That element.

649
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,840
I you AI could not, at least to
this day, cannot do that.

650
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,400
There's no right.
Right, right, right.

651
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,320
I guess So you're saying that
you, but I mean, but you could

652
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,280
really wind down a lot of the
repetitive stuff, right?

653
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,400
Like like what you said, like
you know, flying has changed a

654
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,880
lot, especially since your dad
has been flying, you know, and

655
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,680
I'm sure there's a lot less that
pilots need to do nowadays than

656
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,840
they needed to do 20 years ago
or 30 years ago.

657
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,640
And I'm sure in five 1015 years
it's going to be different too,

658
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,200
no?
For sure.

659
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,080
I I completely agree the the
technology is to help the pilots

660
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,600
stay focused on not dealing with
tasks that take you away from

661
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,160
flying the airplane because
unfortunately that's how a lot

662
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,280
of aerial accidents have
happened in the past.

663
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,840
Pilots got distracted on things
that had not that they didn't

664
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,639
have anything to do with flying,
but they were aside from being

665
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,760
focused on flying.
Right.

666
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,040
So what, what, what is there to
focus on if you're a pilot,

667
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,040
right?
And you're and you're and you're

668
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,159
and you're there.
What are your like?

669
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,040
What's the order of priorities
in terms of your

670
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,719
responsibilities as a pilot, you
know, in terms of net, in terms

671
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,840
of flying, navigating,
engineering, whatever it is

672
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,560
like, what are you expected to
do?

673
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,080
What's computerized what's Not
sure how does?

674
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,440
That work the, the, the primary
is the saying that goes aviate,

675
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,400
navigate, communicate.
So you fly the airplane first.

676
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,679
Something goes wrong, right?
Let's say you're like a cruise

677
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,280
or something like that.
You guys are chilling.

678
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,159
You and the other pilot are
talking, something goes wrong.

679
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,960
The first thing that you have to
do is fly the airplane, because

680
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,960
if you don't fly the airplane,
well, we don't want to know what

681
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,520
happens after that.
Then you communicate so you can

682
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,640
communicate.
Can it be anything in between,

683
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,880
like checklist usage,
communication between the two

684
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,640
pilots, communication with air
traffic control, and then

685
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,880
navigate?
Finally, after that, you want to

686
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,560
be able to navigate and OK, what
is the course of action that

687
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,160
we're going to do now?
Are we going to divert?

688
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,600
Are we going to go to this or
are we going to go to that, that

689
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,920
level?
So it sounds very easy when I

690
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,360
talk about it because we're just
that cruise at 37,000 feet.

691
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,240
But let's say something happens
when you're lower and you're

692
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:26,920
flying.
Like for example, for us when we

693
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,440
go to keto, those mountaintops
are about 14 to 15,000 feet.

694
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,240
Now you're in a situation, now
you're in a situation where

695
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,160
aviate, navigate and communicate
have to happen like this, right?

696
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,120
Has to happen quick because if
you take a long time to

697
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,120
navigate, to get to the
navigation part, you might go

698
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,280
into a mountain, right?
But it's not that.

699
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,480
It's like, oh, we're just
getting, we're just flying blind

700
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,600
and we're just like, something
happens and we're just flying

701
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,760
and we're going towards the
mountain peak.

702
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,240
No, like there are routes that
are predetermined already in our

703
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:00,720
flight plan, which we will
already be on.

704
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,840
It just there's so many
different scenarios.

705
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,400
But what I'm trying to get at is
that the pilot training is,

706
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,640
let's say something happens when
you're around 13,014 thousand

707
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,200
feet around mountainous terrain
and then all of a sudden you

708
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,840
have to aviate, navigate,
communicate.

709
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:24,280
That technology has helped us to
focus on aviate, navigate and

710
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,160
then just being able to, OK, we
assess the situation we're going

711
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,040
to where we need to go.
Now let's talk to everyone.

712
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,840
I think I said it wrong, man.
I think I said aviate,

713
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,320
communicate and navigate.
It's the other way.

714
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,720
It's aviate, navigate,
communicate.

715
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,600
So you want to make sure you're
flying the airplane, knowing

716
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,200
where you're going and then talk
about it.

717
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:46,760
So pilot training, especially in
the airlines is all about that.

718
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,240
They put us in scenarios in an
in a simulator where it's

719
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,680
constantly like this happens,
how are you going to handle it?

720
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,960
What are you going to do?
And there's every airline has

721
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,760
standard operating procedures.
That is what helps both pilots

722
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,520
stay exactly in line to complete
that mission when something goes

723
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,400
wrong, so that there's no
miscommunication between the

724
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,920
pilots that there's no like, we
both know exactly what to do.

725
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,000
And if technology didn't exist
to help us with that, then one

726
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,120
pilot will be busy trying to
flip a bunch of switches while

727
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,800
the other one's trying to fly
the airplane.

728
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,480
It gets overwhelming.
But pilots used to do it like

729
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,640
that, and I think that's totally
fucking badass.

730
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,640
You know, the fact that you can
divert your attention to so many

731
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,040
things and do it, but
unfortunately there have been a

732
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,160
lot of accidents because of
that.

733
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,160
So that technology, that stuff
has helped.

734
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,000
I even think with like what you
mentioned, 10 to 15 years from

735
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,320
now.
Yeah, I think AI and I think

736
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,080
technology is going to be even
even better.

737
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,960
But I just don't think we will
lose 2 pilots in the flight

738
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,960
deck.
I just think that we will be, we

739
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,280
will be doing, for example, a
flight that would take from New

740
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,640
York to London.
Six hours might take you now

741
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,880
like four or three.
That's why I.

742
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,320
Think right How does?
How does that work?

743
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,920
I mean, it's just acknowledging.
The speed of the plane, that's

744
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,520
just how big the plane is.
And no, in terms of like fuel

745
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,480
efficiency for an, for, for like
engines of an airplane, how, how

746
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,520
much powerful they can get, you
know, what can engines do at

747
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,840
higher altitudes to be able to,
you know, produce more thrust or

748
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,120
get us going to, to, to this
stuff a lot faster?

749
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,280
There's a trade off, right?
There's a trade off because as

750
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,440
you go up in altitude, you lose
density of air.

751
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,000
So it's, it's a lot harder for
jets or turbine engines to

752
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,440
produce thrust with thinner air,
right?

753
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,600
You really have to compress that
air to get thrust out of it.

754
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,000
So yeah, technology has helped a
lot with that and the fuel

755
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,280
efficiency of it.
But when you're up in the air

756
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,280
and the air is less dense,
you're actually moving through

757
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,960
the air a lot faster.
You have less drag, you have

758
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,040
less particles of air that are
slowing you down up at higher

759
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,360
altitudes, right?
So that's a great trade off.

760
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,400
But the other thing is too is
now there's something called

761
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,920
cosmic radiation and it's when
you're flying at higher

762
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:27,600
latitudes, I think, I believe it
might be like 60 N or something

763
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,640
like that.
So basically a beam like, oh, I

764
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,520
don't know, somewhere in North
Canada, little bit right around

765
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,360
there.
If you're flying closer to the

766
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,720
North Pole than that, you're
exposed to radiation.

767
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,440
That's cosmic radiation.
It's not like the same as UV

768
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,560
radiation, but it's just
radiation that's there because

769
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,360
you're not being protected so
much by the the atmosphere of

770
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,480
the Earth.
You have less protection at

771
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,920
those altitudes, right?
So that's another like one of

772
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,880
the reasons why, I mean, they
could possibly create an

773
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,320
airplane that can go so much
higher and so much faster so we

774
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,960
can get to a destination a lot
quicker.

775
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,440
But now everybody's exposed to a
lot of radiation and to the

776
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,520
pressure.
You got to think about like

777
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,840
whenever the higher we go, the
airplane has to maintain a

778
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,440
pressure like if we were lower.
Right.

779
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:23,040
So typically you're flying up 30
something 1000 feet 40,000 and

780
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:28,560
your cabin inside the airplane
feels at Max 8000 feet in the

781
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,680
air.
Right.

782
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,920
There's a big pressure
difference.

783
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,840
I mean, that's like a lot of
thousands of feet pressure

784
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,760
difference.
You have to build an airplane

785
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,280
strong enough that it won't
collapse because of the pressure

786
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,360
difference, you see what I'm
saying?

787
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,280
Or explode either 1.
So material of an airplane

788
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,240
technology wise is one thing,
engines of an airplane and how

789
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,320
it performs is another thing
that with technology and AII

790
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,320
think could get better so that
we could start doing longer

791
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,280
flights faster.
But we have to be careful about

792
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,360
the radiation.
Correct.

793
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,600
You have to be careful about the
radiation, but that's that's why

794
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,080
like we won't like the, the, the
airplanes don't have to go so

795
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,720
high in altitude to an in order
to achieve faster speeds, you

796
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:16,120
know what I'm saying?
So, so I think, you know,

797
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,440
there's, there's a difference,
there's regulations based on how

798
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,000
much radiation can you fly
through in a given amount of

799
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,200
time.
And then if the airline could

800
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:33,080
not program you to fly in those
altitudes and those latitudes

801
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,040
for more than XYZ numbers
because it'll violate the the

802
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,680
totally, yeah.
Totally, by the way, what do you

803
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,200
think?
I mean my understanding is also

804
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,120
that or my understanding is that
underwater has experiences or

805
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,720
you know, in the ocean
experiences similar levels of

806
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:53,320
pressure in that kind of way.
Do like submarines are like, you

807
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,240
know, I guess a marine type of
technology is that is do they

808
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,480
collaborate with, with, with
aviation at all?

809
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Because they face similar
challenges in terms of, you

810
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,400
know, having to design, you
know, a, a thing, you know, a

811
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,800
boat or a plane that can
withstand all this pressure and

812
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,800
create an environment of a
different pressure within it.

813
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,200
Is there collaboration between
the two or are they 2 totally

814
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,880
different sciences?
That's a great question.

815
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,360
There might be to a certain
extent, but it's the complete

816
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,440
opposite because every time
whenever you start going below

817
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,760
water, the pressure is actually
increasing, increasing,

818
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,000
increasing so that submarines go
down the water pressure and the

819
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,720
pressure outside the submarine
is so much greater.

820
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:40,680
Like the submarine itself inside
has to be able to not collapse

821
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,360
like a like a coke can, right?
But the people inside need to

822
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,400
feel like if they were higher,
like.

823
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,280
If they were.
Almost at the surface, right?

824
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,440
So it's inverted.
It's just inverted.

825
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,520
Exactly.
So that's why I think there's

826
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,960
not much of A collaboration,
but, but there could be.

827
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,640
I've never really even thought
about that nor investigated it.

828
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,720
But I'm sure there's talks.
I'm sure there's talks and and

829
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,120
you know, just because they're
completely inverted doesn't mean

830
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,520
that there's some overlapping
information that each one can

831
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,640
use.
That submarine that that that

832
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,760
went down a couple years ago.
I remember that story.

833
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,360
They're like trying to you know,
go down to a Titanic or whatever

834
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040
and like those guys must have
died immediately, right?

835
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,080
Because I the anything that goes
wrong, the pressure, just like

836
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,720
you said, you know, crack, you
know, cracks it or cocaine.

837
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,320
Yeah, there's actually, I was
just looking at through Netflix

838
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,880
yesterday and I added that
documentary to the past.

839
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,400
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm gonna see.

840
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,680
I remember reading an article
that it like fucking

841
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,200
disintegrated or some shit.
I can't remember exactly the

842
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,080
words when it was but but
people.

843
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,880
Are looking for them, right?
What's the point of looking for

844
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,720
them?
Right.

845
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,240
It's it's so much pressure, man,
like deep that deep inside.

846
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,960
Like just think about this when
you go scuba diving and I think

847
00:43:53,960 --> 00:44:00,200
it's like you do a a depth of
more than like 20 to 30 feet or

848
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,160
something like that.
Yeah.

849
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,400
And obviously you have to go up
controlled.

850
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:10,120
Whatever you cannot, you should
not fly 24 to 48 hours after you

851
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,280
go scuba diving after reaching a
certain depth.

852
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,760
Really.
Yes, because what that does to

853
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,200
you in terms of like your body
still acclimating to pressure

854
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,640
and you think about it like
biologically to the smallest

855
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,920
extent, there's still pieces and
parts of your body that have not

856
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,480
acclimated to the new pressure
that it starts to build up like

857
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,720
bubbles in your bloodstream,
bubbles in your, in your like

858
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,760
areas where you're going to get
a lot of pain in your joints.

859
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Call them the bends, right.
So if you change that, if you

860
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,880
change that pressure drastically
in less than like 24 to 48

861
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,400
hours, you're going to start
feeling a lot of pain.

862
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,880
That's why they always tell us,
they always tell us if you're

863
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,520
going to go scuba diving, don't
like on overnights.

864
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,920
We don't, we don't do any of
that.

865
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,800
We don't do any of because it's,
it's, it's dangerous.

866
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,040
And when we're flying, actually
when I was going through my

867
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,840
private pilot and commercial
license, you know, you're,

868
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,960
you're flying in airplanes that
are unpressurized.

869
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,840
So you're really feeling like
whatever altitude that it is

870
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,200
that it is outside.
And part of like, you know, the,

871
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,880
the passenger checklist was to,
you know, ask them if anybody

872
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,880
has been scuba diving or
anything in the past, because

873
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:25,920
now you can cause now you, you
know, they're not going to go

874
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,960
and tell you the passenger's not
going to be like, hey man, yeah,

875
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,360
I went scuba diving.
It was awesome.

876
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,440
Cool.
Like maybe they'll say it, but

877
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,640
there's no way you're going to
know unless they tell you.

878
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,920
So now you're flying in the air
and these people start feeling

879
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,160
super uncomfortable because they
didn't know about that.

880
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,840
And yeah, it was, it was, it was
something that we have to ask

881
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,440
the passengers.
But I'm assuming I've never done

882
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,680
any scuba diving lessons or
anything like that before.

883
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,720
In the course that they take,
they probably tell them don't go

884
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:57,520
flying for 24 to 48 hours, you
know, I mean, but I mean, you

885
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,320
just never know.
It's always, it's always better

886
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,160
to ask and be safe than somebody
start feeling bad and now you

887
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,040
have to go somewhere else
because something somebody's

888
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,560
having a bad time.
Yeah, definitely.

889
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:13,640
What's the is it is the is the
party culture of airline like of

890
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,760
the airline industry overrated,
overdramaticized or is it

891
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,080
accurate or like what you what?
You see from shows and movies

892
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,720
and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

893
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,120
Is.
It is it over because I feel

894
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,400
like listen, at the end of the
day, especially if you're like

895
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,960
just if you are, if you're a
single person, you know, and

896
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,240
you're and you're spending all
this time travelling different

897
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:37,200
places.
I mean, I would probably be

898
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,280
partying all the time.
Sure, yeah, I mean and look

899
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,640
there's, there's there's nothing
wrong with doing what you want

900
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,280
to do as long as you are
responsible and you're within

901
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,000
the limits of the regulations,
right.

902
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:58,440
Nowadays the airline scheduling
is so much tighter.

903
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,840
And what I mean by that is
before back in the day, you used

904
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,600
to be able to do 1 flight, go
somewhere, be there for like, I

905
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,000
don't know, 244836 hours and
then come back.

906
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,800
That was plenty of time for, you
know, to go and explore, do all

907
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,640
the partying and everything that
you wanted to do.

908
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,800
I mean, it's, it's part of the
lifestyle, man.

909
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,160
You go somewhere new to
experience another state,

910
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,440
another city, another country.
It's something nowadays they,

911
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:32,280
the technology for, you know,
optimizing pilot schedules is

912
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,320
well if there's these
regulations of pilot rest, I

913
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,800
want to be able to use maximize
the, the time that this pilot

914
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:46,640
can fly per day before we hit
any sort of like fatigue risk.

915
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,240
OK, So what happens is now you
have long days of flying where

916
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:53,400
you're flying maybe two to three
flights a day.

917
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:59,040
You get to an overnight and it's
only anywhere between 12:16 or

918
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,920
24 hours.
That's it man, after after

919
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,720
flying all day.
Right, you don't want to you're.

920
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,400
Kind of you're a little bit
wiped out.

921
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,680
You get, by the time you get to
your hotel, by the time everyone

922
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,800
meets up, you're only, you're
only looking at a couple hours

923
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,280
to do something.
You know, the next day you, you

924
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,400
may have an early show or the
next day, you know, you, you got

925
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,040
in super late.
So now you're going to bed at

926
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,520
like 2-3 in the morning.
You're not going to wake up at

927
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,600
7:00 or something to go and go
to the beach and things like

928
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,800
that.
You're going to try to get rest

929
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,840
because you fly again the next
day.

930
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,680
Two to three flights they're
trying to get.

931
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,360
That sucks man.
It does, it does.

932
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,480
But to me it's still the best
job in the world.

933
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,120
And you know, it's a job.
We're getting paid, we're

934
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,160
getting paid well.
And while our overnights, not

935
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,280
all of them are 24 hours, you
still have enough to be able to,

936
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,320
I don't know, maybe get dinner
with the crew somewhere, or

937
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,360
maybe you'd do a breakfast with
the crew before you go.

938
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,040
It just really all depends.
The funnest layover for me, at

939
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,120
least I've been in the Caribbean
where there is a lot of like,

940
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,040
you know, it's, you're all on
the beach, you're all doing

941
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,880
like, it's all this Beachy vibes
and things.

942
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,920
And, and, and I love that
because you go out with the

943
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,880
crew, get breakfast in the
morning, some of us will go get

944
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,520
a workout in before we go fly
and boom, there goes our morning

945
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,320
and afternoon, You know, so it,
it is different.

946
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,320
Don't get me wrong, people still
do party, but you know, it's

947
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,600
also there's also a lot.
Of sounds like it's hard to

948
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,440
sounds like you have to put like
a lot of work into it.

949
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,800
You have to like, put work into
finding time to party.

950
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,440
I mean for real yeah, you, you,
you do and but everybody like

951
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,880
knows hey, this is the
regulation.

952
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,400
This is where you have to be
back by.

953
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:53,920
This is, you know, if you kind
of cross that line, you're not

954
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,680
only are you putting your your
job at risk, but you're putting

955
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,240
people at risk.
And everyone knows, everyone

956
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:07,280
knows that if you even come
close to that, it's not worth

957
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,440
any of the repercussions that
have to come with that.

958
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,400
So, you know, that being said,
there's a good balance between

959
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,000
how much you want to go explore
and party and everything versus,

960
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,360
hey, the professional
professionalism of your job in

961
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,640
what you do.
And it's definitely changed a

962
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,040
lot throughout the years.
I bet, I bet.

963
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,160
But I mean, I can't imagine that
everyone looks at it as

964
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,080
professionally as you do.
You know what I mean?

965
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,800
It sounds, I think you sound
like you're thoughtful about it

966
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,280
and you're, you know, mature
about it, you know, but I'm sure

967
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,480
that listen, there are plenty,
there are plenty of adults that

968
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,920
are adult children, you know
that.

969
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,440
And I guess, I guess obviously,
you know, I guess the crew would

970
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,560
be different than a pilot in
terms of responsibilities, you

971
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,120
know, But how strictly enforced
are are all the regulations,

972
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,840
especially when it comes to
like, you know, travelling or

973
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,880
getting somewhere in time or,
you know, drinking or not or,

974
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,560
you know, whatever it are there
random tests are yes.

975
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,960
Well, what's?
Yeah, there are.

976
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,800
Yep, Yep.
There's random tests, you know,

977
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,760
at random people or pilots and
flight attendants can be tested

978
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,560
for alcohol or drugs at any
point, anytime, anywhere.

979
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,720
There's also like everything.
Do they do it often?

980
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,080
Yeah, yeah, it.
But I mean, there's so many

981
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,040
people in the airline, though,
that it's often without how many

982
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,320
people there are.
But each individual person, you

983
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,560
just never know when you're
going to get it.

984
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,480
There could be a time where you
get it like, oh, wow, I only got

985
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,400
it like a couple months ago.
And sometimes it could be a year

986
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,680
or two before you get one again.
It's so random.

987
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,240
It's so random.
I honestly don't know how the

988
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,680
algorithm works for that.
If it's a computer, if it's like

989
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,960
chosen by certain people, But
it's, you know, the, the, the,

990
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,360
the policy and the regulation is
a little bit different.

991
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:09,560
The regulation is one thing.
The policy that we do can amend

992
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,160
that regulation.
So for us, it's actually a

993
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,480
little bit more restrictive.
It's 12 hours before you can

994
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,600
have any alcohol and you touch
an airplane or I think it's like

995
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:25,640
.004 or something like that.
It's something that like if if

996
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,800
you have one beer within 12
hours it'll show up.

997
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,680
Really.
Yeah, so, wow, So something like

998
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,240
that it, I mean, I don't even do
that because I don't even come

999
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,400
close to that limit.
Why why would I want to come

1000
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,120
close to that 12 hour limit?
You know, if if the if the

1001
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,320
layover is long enough, 36
hours, cool, that gives me

1002
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,200
plenty of time to not have any
of that, right.

1003
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,920
But yeah, there are random,
there are random tests.

1004
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,760
There are regulations in terms
of alcohol percentage in your

1005
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,880
blood.
There's in terms of time and

1006
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,400
also when it comes to an
investigation or something like

1007
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,480
that, there is cameras
everywhere, man.

1008
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,120
And airlines have access to
cameras in hotels and

1009
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,560
everything.
So you you're kind of almost

1010
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,200
like being watched.
Oh yeah, Big Brother.

1011
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,920
Yeah, exactly so.
Big brother's there.

1012
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:20,440
Yeah, yeah.
But to some extent, I mean, it

1013
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,800
doesn't mean you can't have fun.
There's plenty of ways to be

1014
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,120
able to have fun and and if the
layover like again, if the

1015
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,760
layover's long enough, more than
happy to to enjoy a few drinks

1016
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,480
here and there.
How do you, I had, I have this,

1017
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,440
I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure a ton
of people have this.

1018
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,560
I guess you get used to it, but
how do you maintain your health

1019
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,960
regimen, workout regimen,
productivity when you're

1020
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,840
constantly in new places?
Because one thing that I

1021
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,600
struggle with for sure is that
when I, I kind of have to be in

1022
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,280
like my space, that I, that I
associate like psychologically

1023
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,320
and mentally with productivity.
And like when I travel to a

1024
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,840
hotel, even like again, like
here at my parents house, you

1025
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,560
know, like my associations,
being at my parents house is not

1026
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,360
the same association as being at
my house.

1027
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,280
You know, I feel like I'm a kid
here as opposed to a dad and,

1028
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,600
and, and you know, and a
homeowner, you know, I feel

1029
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,000
like, as opposed to being the
man of the house.

1030
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,400
How do you, how do you, how do
you maintain that?

1031
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,920
Or do you, you know or do you
just like listen, if you're

1032
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,200
flying 3 or 4 times a week and
it's just you know it's off then

1033
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,280
or what do you do?
It's a very good question.

1034
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,920
I since I was a little kid, I've
always been very curious and

1035
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:37,080
very like resourceful for
getting something done that I

1036
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,880
want to do.
The first thing that I do is I

1037
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,960
how I value my health and
fitness is very high.

1038
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,080
Then from there, I work down on
how am I going to obtain for me

1039
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,400
to fulfill that value, right?
That means if I'm in a hotel

1040
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,840
room and there's no gym at that
hotel, can I move some furniture

1041
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,240
around?
Can I do some plyometric work in

1042
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:01,000
that hotel room?
Can I do something that's going

1043
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,160
to get me to that value of me
fulfilling that?

1044
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,760
So I've always had that since I
was a little kid.

1045
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,640
I'm guessing the way I built
discipline to that is by holding

1046
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,720
that so highly to me.
It's very, very important to me.

1047
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,000
But you know, the way that I do
it is it?

1048
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,160
I used to work out so hard
almost every day, even when I

1049
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,240
was flying, even when I was at
home.

1050
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,680
And that kind of caught up to
me.

1051
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,200
And I can't be doing so much
hard, heavy training when I'm

1052
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,560
also operating an airplane,
right?

1053
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,960
You get tired.
There's nights where maybe you

1054
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,040
don't get good enough sleep
because you have kids running

1055
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,480
around the hotel hallway just
waking you up every couple

1056
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,520
minutes.
Certain things are outside of

1057
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,960
your control.
So you know as you go and and

1058
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,640
you learn that from experience
as you go.

1059
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,200
As I went through my airline
career, I started amending and

1060
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,920
adjusting what I do on my
layovers and what I do at home.

1061
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,520
So everything that is
progressive overload, heavier

1062
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,760
lifting, or more like strenuous
hard work is done at home.

1063
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,760
Because.
Here I have more equipment and

1064
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,480
here I have more control of what
my rest looks like.

1065
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,080
How, how, how?
How many days a week are you

1066
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,400
home as opposed to traveling?
It depends.

1067
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,760
Sometimes you can be gone four
nights, or sorry, three nights,

1068
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,240
four days.
Sometimes you can be gone two

1069
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:30,600
nights, three days.
Sometimes you're back the same

1070
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,760
day.
It just, it's, it changes, man.

1071
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:38,440
It changes so much that you have
to have a plan.

1072
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,160
Ready.
So you have to take a look like

1073
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,120
how you look at your week Sunday
through Sunday and you're like,

1074
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,960
OK, this week I'm going to fly
this, this, this.

1075
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,440
So I'm going to work out these
body parts on these off days and

1076
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,960
I'm going to do mobility and
flexibility on these days

1077
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,680
because I'm flying 8 hours this
day.

1078
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,360
You can't just be like, oh, I'm
flying 8 hours this day and I'm

1079
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,560
going to go lift like a ton of
weight.

1080
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,160
There's no way, man.
First of all, mentally you won't

1081
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,840
get there.
You will be discouraged because

1082
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,880
of dude, sitting in an airplane
or just sitting in general all

1083
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:15,920
day is just only contributing to
you continuing to sit and being

1084
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,040
lazy.
Not in terms of like that you're

1085
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,320
lazy, you don't want to do
anything.

1086
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,880
But the act of not moving
doesn't make you productive.

1087
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,280
The act of sitting makes you
want to stay sitting.

1088
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,960
The act of lounging makes you
only want to lounge.

1089
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,120
So now you go from 8 hours in a
day sitting in an airplane and

1090
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,880
between two to three different
flights.

1091
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,360
You get to your hotel room and
you're like oh fuck man.

1092
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,560
My hips are tight, my lower back
is tight.

1093
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,640
Now I got to go lift.
Your mind is like, no, no, no,

1094
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,360
no, no, we're not doing that.
Like, and then sometimes you end

1095
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,120
up not doing anything at all.
But if you take that.

1096
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,600
So that's a very big gap to
jump.

1097
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,320
And this is how I like to always
do a metaphor.

1098
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,520
If instead of trying to jump
that gap to get from like being

1099
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,120
really tired to doing a really
hard workout, build the bridge

1100
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,880
that you can easily walk.
Across so smart, dude.

1101
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,360
So smart.
And that bridge is let's focus

1102
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,960
on undoing the sitting that we
did today.

1103
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,680
Let's do hit mobility.
Let's do something and do it

1104
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,240
before you know it.
Like I start off with hit

1105
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,240
mobility and then all of a
sudden I run like a 5K like.

1106
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,080
What?
Yeah.

1107
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,440
Where did that go from?
You know, things like that,

1108
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,360
you're just, you're building
that bridge.

1109
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,840
Do you have to get to the other
side and do an intense workout?

1110
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,760
No.
But at least you're walking the

1111
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,760
bridge.
You're getting there.

1112
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,400
Because if that intense workout
is not today, it could be

1113
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,760
tomorrow.
Yeah.

1114
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,640
You know what I'm saying?
You don't.

1115
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,320
Do you have an opportunity to
get up and move around while

1116
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,720
you're flying or almost never?
Yeah, yeah, we have.

1117
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,000
We could do like breaks where we
use the bathroom and things like

1118
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,760
that, but it's not that much.
You're supposed to go into the

1119
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,800
bathroom, come back and go right
back into the flight deck.

1120
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,480
It's not, you know, it's not
much time that we can lounge

1121
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,640
around at least in, in narrow
body airplanes like the seven

1122
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,480
three that I fly or, but if
you're in, in a 777 or in a, in

1123
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,400
a Dreamliner where you're doing
all these much longer flights,

1124
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,920
there are crew rest breaks.
That means you get a rest break

1125
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,960
for about two to three hours.
There you're free to do what you

1126
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,920
want.
You can go watch a movie, you

1127
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,840
can sleep.
There's bunks in the airplane,

1128
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,840
you can stretch, you can do
whatever you want.

1129
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,200
That's only.
What do you usually do?

1130
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,880
I don't have those kind of
breaks.

1131
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,040
I fly narrow body.
No, no.

1132
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,480
I.
Just would you, do you want to

1133
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,400
fly vigor?
Would you go to that?

1134
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,320
No, I would love to.
I think it'll be a cool

1135
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,160
experience, yeah.
How does that, how does that

1136
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,000
work?
Does that?

1137
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,280
Is that based on seniority?
Is that just based on like it

1138
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,960
is, it's just like, hey, man,
like you've been doing this for

1139
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,200
two years.
You're not getting on a

1140
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,320
Dreamliner, man.
You know, you do this for 10

1141
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,040
years, you get, you get on.
Exactly.

1142
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,080
Oh yeah, dude, man, it's going
to take so long for me to get

1143
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,880
there.
But I mean, it's fine.

1144
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,640
It's it's all part of the
process sometimes.

1145
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,280
How long does it take, How long
does it usually take to get to

1146
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,200
get to make your way up there?
Like where do you consider in

1147
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,960
your career as far as like a
pilot?

1148
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,560
Well, I think it, I think it's
going to take me about like

1149
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:13,320
another three years to get to
fly in those airplanes, but.

1150
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,360
It it.
I'm enjoying so much being a

1151
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,680
captain on this airplane that
I'm on right now.

1152
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,600
And to me, I, I don't, I haven't
really looked at my career of

1153
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,040
like, OK, what's next?
OK, what's next?

1154
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,960
Like I got to get to this, I
guess enjoying this dude, I'm

1155
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,560
just enjoying every single time.
And I'm I'm in either, you know,

1156
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,880
when I was a first officer, when
I was a captain, when I was the

1157
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,720
first officer again, Now I'm a
captain again.

1158
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,480
I mean, you truly enjoying the
moment.

1159
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:47,960
It just really, truly makes me
feel like this is just still a

1160
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,440
dream, man.
There was a time where you do

1161
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,560
have to hustle.
You do have to hustle to get OK.

1162
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,800
You got to get your flight hours
to become captain, OK.

1163
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,080
You got to get your flight hours
to get to the next airline that

1164
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,160
you want to go to.
Those are the times that you

1165
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,640
hustle.
But yeah, I'm not always

1166
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,880
thinking like, oh man, I can't
wait to fly like to all the

1167
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,920
Europe and all that stuff.
Man, that time will come when

1168
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,840
it'll come.
Right now I'm having so much fun

1169
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,720
flying South America, you know,
so, so that's, I think that's

1170
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,520
another thing that makes me
enjoy my job so much.

1171
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,440
Yeah, yeah.
You know what?

1172
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,960
That's such a great attitude.
There's something about I, I was

1173
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,160
actually, I was talking about
this because there was such a

1174
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,680
fundamental difference between I
didn't know what I wanted to do

1175
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,520
with my entire life ever, right?
For a long time, there were

1176
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,880
always things I knew that I kind
of spoke to me, but I wasn't

1177
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,880
sure what I wanted to do.
And one thing I, I started doing

1178
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,040
a couple years ago, I started
teaching.

1179
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,440
I always, I, I love teaching.
And this podcast is something

1180
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,160
else I love, right?
And you know, people ask me

1181
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,760
like, oh, how's it coming?
How's it going along?

1182
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:56,680
And like, man, there's when you
find something that you enjoy,

1183
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,440
you don't mind taking your time
to get wherever you got to get

1184
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,120
because you're enjoying
everything you do.

1185
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:06,040
And when you don't rush it, like
what we talked about earlier,

1186
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,320
you know, like full circle, you
know, when you're not rushing

1187
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,880
and when you're just letting the
moment be the moment and when

1188
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,520
you're just experiencing what
you're experiencing and also

1189
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,080
building and also growing and
also learning and also getting

1190
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,800
experience, but you're loving
what you do along the way.

1191
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,480
That's like, that's ideal set.
That's happiness in my opinion,

1192
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,120
right?
Happiness.

1193
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,960
Happiness to me is a feeling of
having a big picture and knowing

1194
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,920
that you're doing what you can
to get to that big picture and

1195
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,600
feeling like you're taking steps
towards it.

1196
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:40,520
Cuz like I don't, cuz happiness
is almost like if you ask me if

1197
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:41,880
I'm having a hard day, are you
happy?

1198
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,800
I'm like, yeah, I am, it's a
hard day, but I'm a happy, but

1199
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,840
I'm I'm happy.
I love my life, I feel good.

1200
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,400
I'm a happy person.
I feel meaningful and and

1201
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,520
content and but but, you know,
and then there are people that

1202
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,720
have comforts and I have, you
know, you know, that have what

1203
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,040
everyone else wants, but they
don't feel like they're working

1204
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,320
towards achieving any kind of
goal or any kind of dream or any

1205
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,920
kind of vision and they're not
happy, you know, and like, so,

1206
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,920
so it's such a hell.
It's such a great attitude to be

1207
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,720
like, yeah, man, you know, I'll
try.

1208
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,000
I'll fly a Dreamliner one day.
But you know, like, you know, I

1209
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,520
got there, man.
And like, I like what I'm doing,

1210
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,520
you know, like that's just what
I'm that's awesome.

1211
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,440
With minutes.
Some of your favorite places to

1212
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,760
to visit so far.
Wow man, that's every time I get

1213
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,640
asked that.
It's it's pretty.

1214
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,880
Tough it changes, right?
Well.

1215
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,000
Yeah, let's.
Talk about the people or the OR

1216
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,600
the OR let's talk about people
like your favorite, like types

1217
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,160
of people that you've seen and
the favorite like, you know, I

1218
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,960
guess cities or topography,
because I feel like those are

1219
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:41,440
two different questions.
For real and also to, to add on

1220
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,360
to that either for work or for
pleasure, right.

1221
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,800
So like that's, that's different
too.

1222
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,240
I'll, I'll, I'll start off with
work wise where I like going.

1223
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,680
I really love going to the Dr.
Dominican Republic.

1224
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,240
I love going there.
The people there I vibe with so

1225
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,440
much.
They're fun.

1226
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,360
It's a great mixture between
being professional and having

1227
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,880
fun at the same time.
I think they're really great and

1228
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:10,880
Puerto Rico as well.
I get that same feeling and the

1229
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,280
where I really truly enjoy going
to as well is Central America

1230
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,960
because it's challenging.
It's challenging to go there in

1231
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:24,920
terms of the runway layout, the
airport layouts, mountains

1232
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,000
around, dude.
Sometimes there's like these

1233
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,120
runways that are not completely
straight, they're like downhill

1234
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,800
or they come down and then come
back up.

1235
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,480
It's it's just challenging and I
love that.

1236
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,080
That makes the job so much more
interesting.

1237
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,560
So I think one of my favorite
ones is also Guatemala.

1238
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,040
I like flying.
Into Guatemala.

1239
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,240
Yeah, it's a really interesting
airport.

1240
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,160
Let's.
See what about this interesting

1241
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,400
when you say these things, when
you say that these are like I'm

1242
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,400
just cuz I don't I don't even
know how to even think about

1243
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,800
what you're thinking about you.
Know like, so let me try to let

1244
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,120
me try to visualize it for you.
OK, so you're coming in from the

1245
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,600
Gulf, right?
And you're starting to descend

1246
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,920
now you're starting to descend
into like where mountains,

1247
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,360
terrains are.
The airport is located on a

1248
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,360
hill, maybe a hill that's like
about like I can't remember the

1249
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,360
elevation, let's call it like
about maybe like the 1000 or

1250
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,520
2000 feet right from sea level.
You have to come the way you're

1251
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,360
coming into it from the, from
the Gulf is in your landing

1252
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,800
looking towards the Gulf.
So you have to somehow make 180��

1253
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:36,400
turn somewhere, but you can't
just make 180�� anywhere because

1254
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,280
there's mountains and volcanoes
all around.

1255
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,360
Obviously there's, there's
called arrival charts and

1256
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,040
approach charts.
So as long as you're following

1257
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,160
those that chart and those
Airways, you're going to be

1258
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,160
fine.
The thing is, is configuring and

1259
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,560
maneuvering the airplane to be
at those specific spots at the

1260
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,080
specific speed, at the fixed
specific configuration, you

1261
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:02,160
know, and there's a, you start
like met like you start

1262
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,800
preparing for this while you're
still cruising.

1263
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,400
So way before you start
descending, you figure out like,

1264
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,200
OK, my landing capability is
going to be this because we

1265
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,960
weigh this much.
Is a runway wet?

1266
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:18,400
Is there a slope on the runway?
What kind of density altitude do

1267
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,920
I have?
Am I going to be landing with a

1268
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,240
tailwind?
With a headwind?

1269
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,680
All these things you're taking
into consideration and you're

1270
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,160
prepared mentally before you
even start descending.

1271
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,120
Awesome.
And then your goal descending is

1272
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,120
to be like, OK, I set up for
this.

1273
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,760
This is how it's going to be
done.

1274
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,040
And that's the goal reaching
those things.

1275
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,200
So dude, as you're coming
through, there may be clouds,

1276
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,680
there may not be clouds.
You may pop out of clouds and

1277
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,720
they all sort of like the
volcanoes right in front of you.

1278
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,200
And you're hitting the point you
where you got to make 180�� turn.

1279
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,160
You're lining yourself with the
runway.

1280
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,960
It could be raining, it could be
not right before the runway,

1281
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,760
there's like a freaking
waterfall, which looks so cool.

1282
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,440
Not all of, not a lot of people
see it because it's kind of

1283
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,720
small, but you could definitely
see it if you look good enough.

1284
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,080
And then you're coming in, you
may have like all this wind from

1285
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,400
around the mountains that are
just like pushing you left,

1286
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,880
right with you against you.
Then the, the, the runway is not

1287
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,400
grooved.
So they, the, the, the water

1288
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,040
puddles in the runway in
Guatemala, which is a huge

1289
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,240
threat.
You know, you don't want to land

1290
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,760
where there's puddles of water.
You can 'cause they could be

1291
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,320
hydroplaning.
So now you're thinking about

1292
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,480
like, OK, what's my braking
effectivity going to be?

1293
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,320
How am I going to do this?
What kind of flap setting, all

1294
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,760
those things.
It's nice when you think of all

1295
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:36,560
that and you, you know, you
execute it and you park the

1296
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,840
airplane and you're like, fuck
yeah, you know, that was cool.

1297
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,760
So it's satisfying.
It's like a challenge and it's

1298
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,840
satisfying.
Versus like when you come back

1299
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,160
to Miami, I love Miami, I love
landing here.

1300
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,440
I think it's the best freaking
airport to land here.

1301
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,760
The controllers are super cool,
the scenery super awesome and

1302
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,840
but it's something that you
already know.

1303
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,000
You already know which runway
you're getting.

1304
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,800
You already know that it's long
enough for you to land there.

1305
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,960
You know it's grooved.
You know this this, this, so you

1306
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,800
know all of it.
You still plan for it, but it's

1307
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,400
different because there's no
mountains.

1308
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,400
There's no like winds that are
could be unexpected there.

1309
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,360
Obviously there's thunderstorms
that can pop here and there, but

1310
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,319
there's less of like threats
than there is for example, in

1311
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:21,120
like Guatemala or Medellin in
Colombia landing at night over

1312
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,040
there.
Oh man, it's just fantastic.

1313
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,920
I love doing that.
But let me get back to your

1314
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,040
original question where I love
the most going to and I think my

1315
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,120
favorite countries have been
we've my wife and I have been to

1316
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,160
I think like 40 together 3637 or
40.

1317
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,920
Can you take her on a flight on
a flight with you?

1318
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,439
Like if you're like, have to go
for.

1319
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,600
She's a pilot.
She's a pilot too, so she.

1320
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:45,840
On the way.
Yeah, yeah.

1321
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,399
We both have the same.
Bed so cool.

1322
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,279
Yeah, so she so so.
But she and herself has been to

1323
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:53,359
70 countries.
I've been to 56.

1324
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,359
Japan is my favorite.
I think it's because like, the

1325
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:00,920
culture, the education, the
scenery, everything.

1326
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,240
Switzerland is amazing.
Norway is amazing.

1327
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,319
When you go to these places,
you're going, you're going,

1328
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:11,439
you're not going for work,
you're going.

1329
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:12,800
No, you're.
Going, these are for fun.

1330
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,319
These are for fun, yeah.
Right.

1331
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,880
And do you get to travel?
You get discounts on travelling?

1332
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,279
Do you travel for free?
How does that work?

1333
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:20,120
We have benefits, we have travel
benefits.

1334
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,080
So we can fly anywhere we want
as long as there's space.

1335
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,960
And if it's international, you
pay the taxes.

1336
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:29,760
And then if you go on another
airline, you pay like a heavily

1337
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,800
discounted rate that they give
each other's, you know, every

1338
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,600
airline supports each other's
employees in terms of like, can

1339
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,560
you travel on us?
If there's space, you pay this

1340
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,840
minimal fee and that's that's
mainly why we can fly and go

1341
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,680
everywhere.
So much for fun.

1342
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,080
Right.
And did.

1343
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,840
And the 15 hours, how long did
it take to get to Japan?

1344
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,479
Shit, Japan.
Where did we do Japan from?

1345
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,360
We do Japan from Dallas.
So it was like, you know, like

1346
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,040
1415.
Yeah, Does that does that.

1347
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,440
Is that is that hard for you or
that doesn't bother you?

1348
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,880
Man, that would drive me crazy,
man.

1349
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,600
Good.
Question.

1350
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:13,720
Sometimes it has but I just
sometimes like dude just drink 3

1351
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,680
glasses of wine and pass out.
That's all you got to do.

1352
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,800
I just pass out dude.
I just go to sleep and sometimes

1353
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,400
like the longest flight I did
was Doha to Miami and that was

1354
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:31,720
like 16 and change dude I slept
like 9 hours out of that thing

1355
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,360
then I watched it.
Two to three more movies and

1356
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:37,760
there you go.
And then boom we're home and I'm

1357
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,560
like wow shit that's not that
bad but man if I had not slept

1358
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,520
for 9 hours I'd be going nuts.
Yeah, So Japan.

1359
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,000
You thought Japan was awesome?
Loved it.

1360
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,360
I loved it.
You loved it?

1361
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,200
I loved it.
Yeah.

1362
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,480
I even got a tattoo to my legs,
part of my sleeve.

1363
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,280
Really.
Yeah.

1364
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,360
Cuz we had my.
Fuji, We hiked at the top of

1365
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,080
Mount Fuji.
That was probably one of the

1366
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,560
hardest hikes we've done.
We've done hiking all over the

1367
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,840
world, probably have hundreds
and hundreds, hundreds of trails

1368
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,320
that we've done around the
world, and Mount Fuji was

1369
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,600
probably one of the hardest
ones.

1370
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:13,080
Wow.
What?

1371
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,880
What was more challenging?
What was more challenging about

1372
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,560
it?
Dude, I think, I think it was

1373
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,080
because the preparation of me, I
wasn't very well hydrated before

1374
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:26,640
we started and we went a day
after landing.

1375
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:31,760
So we weren't hourly acclimated
yet, you know, So I think a

1376
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,880
mixture of like a little bit of
fatigue, you know, not enough

1377
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,600
eating, not enough hydration and
then.

1378
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,080
But the but the mountain itself
was it was, it was like if you

1379
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,640
did that.
No, it was super, super

1380
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,160
inclined, man.
Like it got to a point where I'm

1381
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,760
like, I started cramping.
I had to stop.

1382
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,040
My wife kept going.
I don't know.

1383
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:54,280
She's like, she's like once she
gets going, she doesn't stop,

1384
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,440
dude.
She's like, I'll wait for you at

1385
01:11:56,440 --> 01:12:01,160
the top.
I'm like, dude, what is the deal

1386
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,440
with why?
I, I lived in I lived in Seattle

1387
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:08,800
for a little for a for a year.
I've I drove, I drove cross

1388
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,720
country to to get there.
Rainier is awesome, man.

1389
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,280
Have you been, have you been out
West?

1390
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,280
Do you spend time out West?
A little bit.

1391
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,120
I've done some California stuff,
but I have not explored

1392
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,360
Washington or Oregon or anything
I've flown.

1393
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,600
Into there, but I haven't
explored.

1394
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,160
Dude.
Dude, if you like hiking and you

1395
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,680
like nature, you got to be crazy
not to spend time there.

1396
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,800
Yeah.
It's incredible.

1397
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,840
There's something about the West
Coast mountains that are so much

1398
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:43,440
more grandiose and so much more.
Like, literally awesome, awe

1399
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:44,360
inspiring.
Yeah.

1400
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,520
And I feel like the East Coast
mountains, I don't know.

1401
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,680
I don't know what and what it
is.

1402
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,480
Someone mentioned to me that
they may have been that the East

1403
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:53,520
Coast is older and that the West
Coast mountains are newer.

1404
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,280
So like as as time went on, the
mountains kind of like flattened

1405
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,840
out, which is why they appear a
little bit a little longer.

1406
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,120
But what about the Yeah, what
about culturally?

1407
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,160
Your favorite place is to like
be with people because like, I

1408
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,480
love, for example, like Dublin,
I love the Irish, dude, the

1409
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:18,040
Irish are awesome and and, and
you know, but obviously that's

1410
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,760
not the most beautiful place
I've ever been to in my entire

1411
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,840
life, you know, but I love
spending time there, like

1412
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,440
especially with people.
What is, I mean like when you go

1413
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:28,960
to these places, what do you,
what's culturally like these

1414
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:29,960
places that stand out to you,
man?

1415
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:36,600
That's a good question because I
can vibe with a lot of different

1416
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:42,000
cultures because I'm so
genuinely interested in learning

1417
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,440
about them.
Yeah.

1418
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:51,560
That, that, you know, like in
Japan, I love how reserved they

1419
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,360
are to certain extent and how
they have so much education and

1420
01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:00,720
respect for people versus going
to a country where not

1421
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,840
necessarily that there's no
respect, but they're a little

1422
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,280
bit more open, right?
And a little bit more like going

1423
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,880
East Europe.
That was, that was kind of

1424
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,520
interesting to me because it
took some time for me to get

1425
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,240
through people and start talking
to them.

1426
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:19,480
But once I did, oh man, it was
like, oh, OK, OK.

1427
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:23,000
There's like, no, almost like I,
I didn't, there was like no wall

1428
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,000
or anything.
Kind of like, you know, to be

1429
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,600
able to, for, for us to
communicate.

1430
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,520
But it was very interesting
because in the Dr. like I

1431
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,280
mentioned before, it's instant.
I mean, you get off the airplane

1432
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,600
and you're already joking
around.

1433
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,280
Being professional is like a
great mixture of all that.

1434
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,760
So it's really hard for me to
pick one place where I

1435
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:44,560
culturally prefer.
You know, right, yeah, totally,

1436
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,560
totally, totally.
And I guess, I guess, yeah, it's

1437
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,720
a good point.
I about about especially about

1438
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,480
the Eastern Europeans because
they're they're like a rock, you

1439
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:55,920
know, on the surface, you know,
but then it's usually it's

1440
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,360
usually like after like once you
get past that rock, it's usually

1441
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:04,320
good humor and loyalty and like,
yeah, you know, and it's cool

1442
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,200
how it how it manifests.
My grandfather is from, was

1443
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:12,640
from, was from Poland and you
know, and he was a tough dude

1444
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,520
and he had like no problem, you
know, being an asshole if he

1445
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,080
wanted to be, but he, you know,
but he had such a great sense of

1446
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,920
humor and like, you know, and
you never and, and, and I guess

1447
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,880
it's also I guess because these
are like legitimately hard

1448
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,200
places to live, you know, like
whether it's the weather,

1449
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:33,080
whether it's the society,
whatever it is that you have to

1450
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,400
be able to like kind of flip
that serious switch on

1451
01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:38,920
immediately, you know, but like,
I feel like you can't survive

1452
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,520
without that humor either, you
know, like you kind of need like

1453
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,680
a little bit of both of them in
order to really be.

1454
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,480
Successful, completely agree,
man.

1455
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,360
I think that like if everybody
just stays that way, it's just

1456
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,320
it actually is super miserable
to live like that.

1457
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,880
So that you kind of need to
start making some sort of at

1458
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,280
least good sense of humor
despite, you know, to be able to

1459
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,400
like at least, you know, enjoy
some things.

1460
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,520
But it was really interesting
because in East Europe, I

1461
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,160
learned so much of the history,
you know, not only from the

1462
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,840
wars, but a lot of the communism
stuff and a lot of like the

1463
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:15,920
straight thinking and the and
the manipulation that they had

1464
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,720
over the people.
It's hard to break away from

1465
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,800
that.
You know, you still feel like

1466
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,240
whenever I would go to visit
museums and things like that,

1467
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,080
damn, man, you go in there and
you're like, oh fuck.

1468
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,920
Like you feel how tough that
stuff was during the war and,

1469
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,640
and communism after that and
communism in some Eastern Europe

1470
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,960
places were until like the 60s
or 50s.

1471
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:43,360
That's like, that's not that
long ago, you know, And the one

1472
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,760
of the most interesting things
about being able to travel the

1473
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,960
world is learning, obviously the
culture, but the history behind

1474
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,600
and all that.
And you start to put some things

1475
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:58,200
together as to personality and
history.

1476
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:03,120
And it's just, it's just very
interesting to know and

1477
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,480
understand because you can,
let's say you're out in Miami

1478
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:08,160
now and you're somewhere in the
beach.

1479
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,360
I don't know.
You meet someone from, I don't

1480
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:12,840
know, Montenegro.
Ukraine.

1481
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:15,840
Or Ukraine or something like
that.

1482
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:20,920
Now it's like you, you have a
deeper knowledge and a deeper,

1483
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,800
deeper level of understanding
that your conversation with that

1484
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,920
person is more.
Sure.

1485
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,120
I guess like in depth.
Maybe not in depth, but more

1486
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,440
like culturally aware.
Yeah, well, I think it isn't

1487
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:34,880
because you guys are really
speaking more of the, you know,

1488
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,280
you guys really are speaking the
same language at a certain

1489
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,440
point.
I mean, you know, I mean, when

1490
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:42,080
I'm talking, when you're talking
another pilot, you're speaking

1491
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:43,600
pilot language, you know, like,
yeah.

1492
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,920
And even though we're using the
same words, and even though

1493
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,000
you're both, you're both
speaking English, you guys are

1494
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,480
speaking another language
essentially.

1495
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:52,320
And when you can, when you have
that kind of cultural awareness

1496
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,000
or that historical awareness,
then you can.

1497
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,360
And I think that's really what
it is with a lot of, with a lot

1498
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,360
of people, when you have a hard
time, like quote, UN quote,

1499
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,440
making conversation or you're a
good conversationalist, I think

1500
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:05,560
it just means that you're really
good at being able to put your,

1501
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,440
you know, be able to put
yourself in someone else's

1502
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:11,320
perspective or understand where
they're coming from and then be

1503
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,520
able to relate to them based on
that, you know, right.

1504
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,160
Yeah.
Completely, but dude, what's it

1505
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:21,880
so so your wife is also a pilot
and when your dad warned you

1506
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,120
back in the day that you're
going to, you know that it's

1507
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,360
going to be hard, you're going
to be traveling missing things.

1508
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,560
Has that, has that, has that,
has that happened?

1509
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,320
How do you guys, how do you
guys, how do you guys work?

1510
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,360
How do you guys maintain your
relationship when you're

1511
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:34,880
traveling so much?
Yeah.

1512
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,360
So, you know, relationship in
the industry is obviously a

1513
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,600
little bit easier in terms of
like understanding each other's

1514
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,400
lifestyles and also like what
you can do to manipulate

1515
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,040
scheduling to be able to work
things out, right.

1516
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,840
So my wife, before she was a
pilot, she was actually a flight

1517
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:56,280
attendant for like 5-6 years
before she made the transition

1518
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,080
to wanting to be a pilot.
And the scheduling was almost

1519
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,960
the same.
So when we met 5 plus years ago,

1520
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,560
it was always a certain
manipulation, mostly on her part

1521
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,240
to change her scheduling to be
able to match mine.

1522
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:16,120
And that's because with her, she
had more a little bit like more

1523
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,120
of like a flexibility with her
schedule rather than mine.

1524
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:23,160
Mine was a little bit more like
locked in terms of the flying

1525
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,720
that they needed me to do.
With her, she was able to trade

1526
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:30,680
trips and do things easier.
So it kind of accustomed to be

1527
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,520
her trading and changing her
schedule around mine.

1528
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,840
And still to this day, like now
as a captain, it's a junior

1529
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,680
captain.
I'm on, I'm on, I'm on call.

1530
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,960
So I can't really change my
days, but she can.

1531
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,560
She's on call as well.
But her company is smaller.

1532
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,600
So they're able to work with
each person individually and be

1533
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,280
able to do these trades and
things like that.

1534
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:53,080
So what we'll do is we will
either try to match working days

1535
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,840
and match off days together.
If we can't match certain days

1536
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:03,600
off or working together, then if
I get like a cool layover, I'll

1537
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,280
I'll try to bring her and she
can come on my layover and spend

1538
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:12,400
some time with her.
If she gets a certain layover.

1539
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,640
Sometimes they're not like long
enough.

1540
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,840
So it's sometimes it's not worth
for me to like be able to go and

1541
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,400
spend more time flying than like
in the actual layover.

1542
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,480
So.
You know, we just, we just make

1543
01:20:25,480 --> 01:20:28,160
it work on our on our office,
but we generally see each other

1544
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:34,560
like 15 days out of the month,
16 days out of the month more.

1545
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:35,080
Wow.
Yeah.

1546
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,840
Yeah.
More 15, yeah, like 15 to like

1547
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,240
15 to 20 days out of the month.
How often do you guys fly have

1548
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,680
the same like route that you're
flying to the same place or

1549
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:44,120
almost?
Never.

1550
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,840
No, not at all.
Never.

1551
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,920
Never.
Where did she go?

1552
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,960
If you, if you think about, if
you think about this, let's say

1553
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:54,120
if somebody who works from 9:00
to 5:00, yeah.

1554
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,120
Besides all the other stuff that
they have to do, you only see

1555
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,560
your spouse or the person that
you're with for a couple hours a

1556
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,960
day where my wife and I can be
with each other the whole entire

1557
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,480
day because we're both off or.
Yeah.

1558
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,920
Not being called 15 to 20 days a
month, right.

1559
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,360
Yeah.
So it's awesome that in that

1560
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:15,720
sense, it's worked out really
well.

1561
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,960
It's not always like that
though, and I'm sure it's going

1562
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,240
to change when we have kids.
Yeah, that's going to be a whole

1563
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,400
different, you know, ball game
once we cross that line.

1564
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:30,520
But yeah, the, the, the amount
of quality of time, even if it's

1565
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,560
less than somebody who's always
at home is, is still a little

1566
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,720
bit different.
Yeah, I imagine for sure, for

1567
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,000
sure.
I mean, I listen, I think that's

1568
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,760
part of the, the beauty of a
relation of relationships in

1569
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,920
general, is that as long as you
guys are speaking each other's

1570
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,520
languages, then it's OK.
You know, then, then, then,

1571
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,440
then, then it's all great.
Like my wife and I spend an

1572
01:21:50,440 --> 01:21:53,920
enormous amount of time
together, or at least within the

1573
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,280
same vicinity of one another.
You know, like, you know, I'm

1574
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,280
work from home and, you know,
she, you know, she, she's

1575
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,400
working part time at the moment,
but she just had, we just had a

1576
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:02,640
kid two months ago.
So she's.

1577
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:04,200
Congrats.
She's been around.

1578
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:05,360
Thank you very much.
Yeah.

1579
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,680
Dude, this is my there's #2 it's
fucking wild, dude.

1580
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,640
Wow.
I can't even begin to tell you,

1581
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,040
man.
And there's, there's really no

1582
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,640
words, but yeah, except for
chaos.

1583
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,560
But it's amazing.
It's a love and it's chaos.

1584
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,720
That's the two words that I
would put there.

1585
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,040
But yeah.
But yeah, we spend a lot of time

1586
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,640
together and then but a lot of
times we'll be like, even though

1587
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,680
we've been in the same house
together for 10 hours, you know,

1588
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:34,720
I haven't, I barely spoke to
her.

1589
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,560
You know, I've been working,
I've been doing a podcast.

1590
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,840
I work for a jog.
I go, you know, I, I, you know,

1591
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,000
she, she, you know, she has to
run, you know, she runs out.

1592
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,480
She, she goes to cut, you know,
she goes to see a patient or she

1593
01:22:43,480 --> 01:22:45,880
goes to, you know, practice, you
know, doing a couple of

1594
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,160
ultrasounds and like, and then
we look at each other like we've

1595
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:50,720
been together all day, but I
feel like I haven't seen you or

1596
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,880
spoken to you all day.
So like, it's all about, you

1597
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,960
know, I think it's all just
about like the ability to

1598
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,680
communicate.
That's what I've noticed is just

1599
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,440
like, and yeah, and, and
communicating the hard stuff is,

1600
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:03,880
is also important because and,
and figure out how to phrase it

1601
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,320
like, yeah, you know, she's had
to like, you know, I've been

1602
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,880
travelling a bunch recently back
and forth to Florida and I was

1603
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,200
again like I was in Israel and
Amsterdam and I had like 10

1604
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,000
hours in Barcelona, which I
thought was really cool.

1605
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:21,280
But you know, and, and then she
said to me, he's like, I just

1606
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,240
feel like she's like, I don't
want to say this, like, I don't

1607
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,800
want you.
I'm not trying to start a fight.

1608
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,720
I'm not trying to get you upset.
Just like, I just feel like we

1609
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,720
haven't like had much of a
relationship recently.

1610
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:33,160
And like, just like, and just
the preface with A, I'm not

1611
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:37,600
starting, I'm not trying to
fight and B, this is how I feel.

1612
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,440
What, you know, what do you
think about that?

1613
01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:42,640
You know, it, it, it was, it was
almost open-ended and it was an

1614
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:47,000
invitation to, to collaborate
again, as opposed to, you know,

1615
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,840
some kind of some kind of
conflict.

1616
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:53,120
And I feel like that took time
for us to figure out, but since

1617
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:57,160
we have, it's been crucial.
That's good.

1618
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,800
And I mean, at least the line of
communication is there, which is

1619
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,160
the hardest part, right?
Sometimes what is it that I'm

1620
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,680
trying to communicate is hard,
right?

1621
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,120
Cuz you sometimes you can't even
put into words what you're

1622
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:10,880
actually.
Trying to.

1623
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,040
What you're feeling, right?
And, and, and, and it takes a

1624
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,560
certain level of, I guess,
experience and time in a

1625
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,480
relationship to be able to
communicate that with your

1626
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:25,560
partner effectively, right?
Because then we misinterpret

1627
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,160
what the other person's trying
to say and then it goes out from

1628
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:29,640
there, right?
But it happens like stuff like

1629
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,200
that happens all the time.
But that's nice though.

1630
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,080
It's nice that you know, you
guys at least you can able get

1631
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,800
that line of communication out
and then work on it from there,

1632
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,920
which is which is huge man,
that's amazing.

1633
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,880
Yeah, definitely.
Are you a UFC fan with all your

1634
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,480
with all your training and all
your working out?

1635
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,640
Yeah, no, I I definitely love
it.

1636
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,880
I got more into UFC within the
past two years, so I don't

1637
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:53,520
really know.
Like.

1638
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:58,360
All, all of them.
But you know me from martial

1639
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:04,600
arts I I love more of like the
discipline, self-defense aspect

1640
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,720
of it.
I'm not in it to go in and fight

1641
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,480
people.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1642
01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:13,000
Me, I'm just, I just do it
because I really love it.

1643
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,800
And if something were to ever
happen, I at least have tools

1644
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,320
that I can help.
Sure.

1645
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,640
Self-defense.
You know my family and I.

1646
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,680
Yeah, yeah, I cuz I've been what
do you I think that I think

1647
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,440
Taporia is going to murder
Olivera this weekend.

1648
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:32,240
I'm a little and I'm a little
sad about it, man, but I, I this

1649
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,040
guy.
I know I love Olivera.

1650
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,080
He's he's such a great team
player like in terms of like

1651
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,360
respect to the other team and
his own team and his opponent.

1652
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,760
I think it's it's wonderful.
He's like one of the most loved

1653
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,280
people in the UFC.
But Ilya, it's also a man.

1654
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,440
I I love that.
I love the way that guy fights.

1655
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:51,640
He's.
Dude I love the way he fights.

1656
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,680
I think he's much younger though
than Olivera I think.

1657
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,920
He is and he's going to knock
his head off dude.

1658
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,120
I think, I really think so.
I think he cuz I heard him, I

1659
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,480
heard him on Rogan and he said
he usually walks around I think

1660
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:08,080
at like 185 and he, he was
fighting at 1:45.

1661
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,920
He's like to not have to lose
that extra 10 lbs.

1662
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,920
He goes, I'm going to, he goes
and maybe he's lying.

1663
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,120
Maybe, you know, maybe he's
making it up.

1664
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,600
I don't know how this kind of
stuff works, dude, but I would

1665
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,040
love to see him when I would
love to see him be a family.

1666
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,520
What was it?
Flyweight, featherweight,

1667
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,720
lightweight and middle weight
champ, dude.

1668
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,120
I want him to beat everyone,
man.

1669
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,480
I'm I'm rooting for him.
I know, me too.

1670
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:33,440
I, I, it's gonna be a real it's,
it's in June, right?

1671
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:36,160
June 28th or July?
No, it's this weekend.

1672
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:37,080
It's.
This weekend.

1673
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:38,240
OK, Yeah, this.
Weekend.

1674
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are you gonna be?

1675
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:40,440
Are you gonna be?
Are you gonna be?

1676
01:26:40,440 --> 01:26:42,160
Are you gonna be flying this?
Weekend.

1677
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:43,880
Yeah, I'm on call.
So I don't, I don't know,

1678
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:48,280
usually like they'll let me know
3-2 to three hours before I

1679
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,240
gotta go fly.
They're like, I don't, I don't

1680
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,880
know where I'm going.
I don't know what time I'm

1681
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,040
going.
I just know that my schedule

1682
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,880
starts at 7:00 in the morning on
certain days and at 7:00 in the

1683
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,600
morning, they can call me all
the way up to 7:00 PM at night.

1684
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:01,040
And I.
Know where I'm going?

1685
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,680
Yeah, I don't know where I'm
going.

1686
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,120
I don't know how many flights
I'm doing.

1687
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:08,480
I don't know any of that but.
Wow, does that change as you, as

1688
01:27:08,480 --> 01:27:09,960
you, as you go through your
career?

1689
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,560
Yeah, as you get more senior,
you're start to be able to pick.

1690
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,560
Oh, OK, No longer am I in
reserve.

1691
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,800
I can, you know, fly four day
trips if I want, then three

1692
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,720
days.
So the most lucrative is like

1693
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:25,000
2/2 day trips.
And it takes, it's probably

1694
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,920
gonna take me years, like
probably like 10 years to get

1695
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:29,560
there.
Yeah, well, we'll get there.

1696
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,560
But dude, I, I love being
alcohol, right.

1697
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,320
One, the, the element of
surprise, like where you're

1698
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:35,920
going.
And a lot of the times it's

1699
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,880
easier trips than actual trips
that you can bid for in the

1700
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:43,520
beginning of the month.
And sometimes you end up doing

1701
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:48,040
trips that are awesome and your
seniority cannot hold it if you

1702
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,280
were to request it in the
beginning of the month, right?

1703
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,240
Because let's say, I don't know,
a captain called out sick and

1704
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,680
it's all of a sudden it's like a
24 hour Punta Cana lay over you.

1705
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:00,720
Like my God, I could have, I
wouldn't seen this in years.

1706
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,120
But guess what?
I'm all called a new.

1707
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:06,560
Let's go.
Dude, such a freaking great

1708
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,960
attitude about it.
Seriously, because I I, it's

1709
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,520
because I could, you could, I
could, I could imagine a million

1710
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,800
different conversations with a
million different people where

1711
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,440
they would be like, yeah, you
know, I wasn't sure, you know,

1712
01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:19,320
you know, I wasn't sure where I
was going to go.

1713
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,040
And I was like, I have to go
back to there again.

1714
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,360
I have to go back to Colombia
and I like right, right.

1715
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:26,040
I love enthusiasm, dude.
I really, I think that I think

1716
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:27,760
that that's what makes the
difference between a successful

1717
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,760
ultimately career or, you know,
satisfying, you know, life than

1718
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:33,560
than not is to have that kind of
attitude.

1719
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:39,120
I will say this though, the hard
part about this scheduling and

1720
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:45,200
the attitude is knowing that
man, you're doing something at

1721
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,960
home and you're busy and you
don't think you're gonna get

1722
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,280
called.
And then all of a sudden they

1723
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,040
call you and you're in the
middle of a project, you're in

1724
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,840
the middle of something and
you're like, fuck, like I was

1725
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:01,600
not expecting to get called.
Like damn it, right for like for

1726
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:05,400
like a minute it you're just
like, come on, like why do they

1727
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,120
have to call out sick?
Or why did this?

1728
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,680
Why did that?
Like are you kidding?

1729
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:13,440
And then, like you, you process.
It and you got to do you got.

1730
01:29:13,480 --> 01:29:14,640
To do you got to do what you got
to do.

1731
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,040
And like this trip is not too
bad.

1732
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,120
And honestly my wife is like
dude, you need to stop

1733
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:23,000
complaining when you get a trip.
But The thing is, is like, if I

1734
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,560
wasn't busy with something else,
I wouldn't because like, I'm a

1735
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,960
task person, man.
I I don't, I don't want to leave

1736
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,880
shit undone, right?
Yeah.

1737
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,080
So like if I'm in the middle of
something and they call me, I'm

1738
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:37,320
like, what bothers me is that I
can't finish what I started.

1739
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,640
Not that they called me.
I'm just bothered that I'm

1740
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,240
interrupted.
Yeah.

1741
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,000
Well, do you ever get called in
the middle of like a fight?

1742
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,120
Like if you ever like big ring
with your wife or anything like

1743
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,080
that, do you get called and
you're like, no shit, I got to

1744
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:49,120
go.
I have.

1745
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:54,160
I have been called in the middle
of of like MMA training.

1746
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:55,400
Oh really?
Yeah.

1747
01:29:55,480 --> 01:29:56,400
Oh yeah.
Shit.

1748
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,120
I got around.
I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm

1749
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,800
rolling with someone.
And then like phone rings and

1750
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,400
I'm like, oh, shit.
And then it's like, you got to

1751
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,680
go to Vegas and I'm like, well,
that's not that bad.

1752
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:11,200
I'll see you guys later, dude.
Yeah.

1753
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,280
Could you finish the fight?
Train on the road, huh?

1754
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,040
Do you train on the road?
Like do you roll on the road if

1755
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,120
you're, if you're traveling, if
you go to Japan or anything like

1756
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:20,720
that, you don't like stop in the
place and train?

1757
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:25,440
I would love to, I think that'll
be pretty cool, but it just were

1758
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,840
I I would do it if I was
travelling by myself that.

1759
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,120
'D be really cool, dude.
It'd be really cool to like,

1760
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,080
just like everywhere you like,
you know, like I, I love my

1761
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,080
craft beer.
I'm into breweries, so I've been

1762
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,640
to breweries in like more than
half the States and like, you

1763
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:39,920
know, oh, that's a bunch of
different countries.

1764
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:41,800
Yeah.
And like, it'd be cool to like,

1765
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,480
you know, like, OK, like, I've
rolled in like 50 different

1766
01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:48,480
countries and like, I'm sure the
cultures are so cool and

1767
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:51,200
different, you know, that you
can probably run so much, you

1768
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,440
know?
For sure, I would love to do

1769
01:30:53,440 --> 01:30:56,280
that in in Thailand.
I would love to do like go to a

1770
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,440
Maui Thai gym.
Yeah, yeah.

1771
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,920
Have you been to Thailand?
No, not yet.

1772
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,080
Not yet.
That's in the works, man.

1773
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,400
That's in the works.
That's in the works, dude.

1774
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,200
That's in the works.
Did you watch White Lotus?

1775
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,400
Are you a fan?
No, my wife is.

1776
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,040
Yeah, she loves.
Piece of views.

1777
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:16,280
I'm never like, The thing is
like she watches her stuff when

1778
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,000
I go to MMA training and I go
and I'm always at MMA training

1779
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,720
like at night.
So my my stuff is at 7:30 PM and

1780
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,280
that's when she usually watches
a lot of so I miss out on a lot

1781
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,760
of shows.
And where's your gym?

1782
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:31,240
Where do you train?
I train in close to Fort

1783
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:38,120
Lauderdale, so I train in, I
train in no, maybe like still 15

1784
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:42,920
minutes away, 15 to 20 minutes
away from Guy 11 place is in

1785
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,880
Weston, the jujitsu places in
Western, which is Gracie behind

1786
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:47,640
the other one's premier martial
arts.

1787
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,520
So Premier Martial Arts, they
have a lot of schools in South

1788
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:52,760
Florida, they.
Have.

1789
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,760
Yeah, I've heard the name.
Yeah, they have it in like Fort

1790
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,240
Lauderdale.
I think it's like Oakland Park,

1791
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,040
Coconut Creek, all these
different places.

1792
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:06,480
So that's pretty much where I
where I go train and it usually

1793
01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:10,040
runs 7:30 to 9:00 PM.
So like I basically get home.

1794
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,920
We try to watch at least one
episode of something and then

1795
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,080
let's say right now we're
watching one called Waterfront,

1796
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:20,840
which is like about like this, a
family that owns a fishery in

1797
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:24,520
North Carolina and then they get
involved with like drug runs and

1798
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:25,080
it.
Looks great.

1799
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:26,880
It looks.
Pretty good.

1800
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,320
It looks pretty good.
What's that on?

1801
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,080
It's on Netflix, Yeah.
Yeah, it's called, I think it's

1802
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:32,360
called Waterfront.
Waterfront.

1803
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:33,680
I'm looking for a new show,
dude.

1804
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,640
I mean, there's been a lot of
great content out recently, but

1805
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,120
I've been, I've been finding all
of it.

1806
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,200
Dude.
Dude, this is a good age for

1807
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,920
this past year.
Has a lot of good television the

1808
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,360
last couple of years.
Yeah, yeah, it's been really

1809
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:46,880
good.
It's been fun.

1810
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,120
It's been fun, dude.
I really appreciate the time,

1811
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:51,560
man.
I appreciate you doing this.

1812
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,160
You know, this is so much fun.
It's so cool.

1813
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:55,760
I'd love to.
We'll hang out.

1814
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,520
We'll hang out in person.
I'll meet you.

1815
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,040
You're welcome to come over.
I'll meet you at guy's gym.

1816
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,320
We'll get, we'll get adjusted or
roll maybe.

1817
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,920
And dude, this is so much fun.
I hope to do this again, man.

1818
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,320
Thank you so much for coming on.
Yes, of course.

1819
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:13,560
Thank you for having me.
It was a pleasure talking with

1820
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,680
you and being able to share a
little bit of aviation fitness

1821
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,200
and stuff like that.
So thanks.

1822
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:19,640
We're gonna have you.
Yeah, Dude, I'm very excited

1823
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:20,960
about this episode, man.
This is awesome.

1824
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:22,120
Thanks so much.
We'll be in touch.

1825
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,320
Take care, brother.
All right.

1826
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:24,360
Have a good day, brother.
Bye.