#113: Amberely Snyder

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Welcome to another episode of
come together

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and we're live.
Hey, I'm really thanks so much

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for coming.
I really appreciate it.

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So I, I came across your site
while I was, I was both trying

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to look for guests, but I'm, I
was trying to look for

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particular type of guests for
the podcast because my show

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really revolves around trying to
bring people together through

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thoughtful and healthy and you
know, I guess mature and

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out-of-the-box, you know, and,
and really healthy, fun

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conversations that really could
help bring people together.

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And, and I came across your site
and I came across your story and

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I was just so blown away.
And I was, so, I, I thought to

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myself, it would be such a
privilege to able to talk to

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you.
So I sent you over the e-mail

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request and, and much to my
surprise, I, I, I think maybe

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after a couple of weeks, I got a
response and I was really,

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really, really meant so much.
So, so I, I, you know, I'm not

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going to, I, I know you've
talked 100,000 times about, you

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know, your story.
I might ask just for a 2 minute

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recap, but you What?
What how?

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How old were you?
When I was 18 when I was in my

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car accident.
Hi.

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Yeah, OK.
By the way, you don't have to

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put the camera on the sound of
the.

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Audio.
OK, well then I and then I won't

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even worry about that.
I'll just say hello.

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Hi, hello there.
So it happened at 18 and, and I

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wanted to talk to you just after
you look into your website

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again, get a little bit more of
an idea as to who you are rather

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than the accident that happened
to you.

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I would, I think that that's
going to that.

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That's really the important part
and really the beautiful part.

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So accident happened, you were
diagnosed.

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They, they, they said that you
would not be able to use your

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legs and never be able to ride
horses again.

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You've been passionate about
horseback horse riding since you

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were three.
And yeah, that's.

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I mean, I'm sure that sounds
like a real.

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Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean you
give the additional.

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Version I love forces my.
Whole life I rode all through

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junior rodeo days.
I've been to high school.

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Then it was my right after my
senior year that I was involved

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in my rollover truck accident,
which where I was ejected from

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my truck, hit a fence post,
broke my back and was paralyzed

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from the waist down.
So then we had to start life

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over.
Yeah, yeah.

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So.
Oh, man, OK.

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There's so many different
directions I want to go, and I'm

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not even sure how to where to
begin with this.

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You started riding horses when
you were just a kid, and you

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come from a big family, right?
You come from, you have five

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siblings.
I also do, by the way, I'm the

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oldest of 6.
And I think that, or at least my

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perception is that having being
part of a big family kind of

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already forces you a little bit
in growing up to develop a kind

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of sense of individuality.
Because there's always, always

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so much chaos going on in the
house.

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And, you know, you're dealing
with older siblings, younger

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siblings, whoever it is.
And there's a lot of learning

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and there's a lot of figuring
out how life works, you know,

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with your siblings starting from
a really, really young age.

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How, how were you, how, how,
where were you of this?

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And you think how much you think
that contributed to your ability

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to start your life over at 18
when you thought you had

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everything worked out and you
know.

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Well, I saw people first that I
feel like I had the perfect

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combination of parents.
So my dad, you know, being a

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Major League Baseball player,
knew what it took to be the best

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and he expected nothing less of
his children.

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So we were definitely, I want to
say like really we had to decide

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what we wanted to do for the
rest of our lives at 3 years

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old.
And then he was going to support

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the passion and wanted us to
work hard for it.

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So we have that side.
And then my mom, my mom

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definitely is the one who taught
us to believe in ourselves and

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to not value ourselves based off
of our performance in our sport,

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if that makes sense.
So I feel like that perfect

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combination between them is what
really helped, you know, us as

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kids be successful.
It helped us as kids decide what

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we wanted to do, how hard we
were going to work for it, but

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also, you know, to feel
confident in ourselves as who we

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are.
And I mean it.

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It went through all six kids.
My my older sister was a

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gymnast.
She's now a coach.

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I rodeoed my brothers both
played baseball.

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The one just retired with
playing in the minor leagues.

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The other one's actually now a
coach as well.

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And, and I'm like, you know, we
had, and my littlest sister

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rodeoed with me.
And so I feel like there was

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just a whole group of us that,
you know, we had been raised

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this way.
And I, I would 100% tell you

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that that is how I was able to
build this foundation that after

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my accident, it was like I was
kind of already trained to

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mentally be prepared.
Yeah, and that's actually.

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So that's one of the ideas that
I really wanted to kind of dive

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into is the mental fortification
and the, you know, and all the

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little steps and middle work
and, you know, bits and pieces

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of time that kind of slowly
start to sculpt who we are.

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And then by the time we look at
the finished sculpture, like you

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look at what our potential is or
what we're capable of doing and

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it almost feels like we don't
even know where it came from.

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And then you look at like your
whole life and you realize that

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it's just a million different
beautiful individual moments

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that you know, of growth and of
pain and of love and of, you

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know, and a family and of
commitment and of everything

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like that.
And all comes together to be

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able to, you know, to create
you, you know who you are.

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And you know in the parts of you
that that you know, like what

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your mom, I guess, taught you is
more than judge the performance

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on the it's, it's who the
athlete is.

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You know, it's, you know,
there's, there's there's a

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difference between high
performing athlete and a leader,

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you know, and, and I'm sure that
that's, you know what they do.

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Oh.
Absolutely.

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I think that that is exactly who
we are as people, as it's

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moments.
It's moments all added up,

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whether good, bad, ugly and
those moments is a part of your

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story.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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So, so growing up, can you what
what was what, what was riding

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like as a child?
Do you remember what it was like

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as a kid?
Do you remember at a certain

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point what when you're able to
kind of take it to the next

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level and really be great, was
that?

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Physical, So we, I was born in
California, so we actually

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didn't find a place that I could
start writing lessons till I was

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3.
So that's when I actually

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started writing lessons.
And then it wasn't until my

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family moved to from California
to Utah when I was 7, then I

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started competing in rodeo.
So I feel like I had a pretty

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good foundation when I was a
kid.

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And then when we moved to Utah,
I got a barrel horse and that's

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when I started competing in
rodeo.

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And I just loved it and I had a
knack for it and felt like I

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was, you know, obviously going
to be good at it.

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And so it grew.
I feel like I, I mean, I won

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things at the junior level, you
know, at 7 years old, I feel

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like I got a horse that was
really capable of winning when I

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was 10.
And that horse really changed my

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perspective.
I tell people at clinics like

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that was the horse that taught
me how to win.

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The first horse, her name was
Lacey.

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And I would tell you like that
horse taught me to have the

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passion for this sport because
she loved it and because she

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loved it, she made me love it.
But that second horse, Jazzy,

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was her name.
I got her when I was 10 or 11.

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That horse could win, you know,
And I think that that's really

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when it shifts your game even
more because now, you know, when

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you go in the arena, it doesn't
matter who's entered.

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And I'm competing at girl races
against women, right?

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It's not just kids anymore in
that aspect.

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And and I knew that if I put
down my best run and I did my

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best job and my horse did her
best job, we could win.

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And that shifts your perspective
a lot, right?

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When all of a sudden you have
that capability.

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So I would say that was when I
realized, you know, or, or

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learned how to win at A at a
bigger level than just the kids

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against the kids.
Right.

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So what I mean, I don't know
much about, about the sport when

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you say that a horse had the
passion as opposed to a horse

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that can win.
I know that horses are deep and

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empathetic.
Actually, I was, I, I did a, I

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did an episode a couple of weeks
ago with, with a therapist,

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Alyssa Levy.
She's awesome.

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And she, and she's been riding,
she's from Maine.

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She's been riding horses her
whole life too.

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And she was telling me about how
emotional and intelligent and

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just remarkable horses are.
And, you know, so, so were you.

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You're able to detect that and
like feel that as a kid when

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you're, when you're, when
you're, when you're, when

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you're, you know, yeah.
It's like a shared sport.

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Absolutely.
I think you're able to I.

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Think from.
The time I was three years old,

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just riding.
Riding lessons, you recognize

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the depth within these animals
and, and then I think the older

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you get, you realize that
personalities can clash and that

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you're going to find ones that
you love and ones you get along

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with and ones that maybe someone
else will get along with better

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than you.
And then you find ones that love

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your sports and I mean horses
that love to be real horses and

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some that really don't, right?
Like they love to do something

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else and that 100% after happens
as you go along.

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Well, yeah, definitely.
That's so cool.

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That's so creative.
And I guess it's just a feeling,

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right?
I mean, like, do people describe

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the like, is there a way to tell
when you're, when you're kind of

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feeling out a horse?
Is it something in the tension

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with the with with its body?
Is it something with its

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response to you?
Like what, what, what?

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Or is it just, you know, a
feeling?

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Like I would say it's definitely
both.

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I would think that there's,
there's an emotional connection,

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a heart connection that you feel
with that horse and that's what

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really takes you to the next
level with a horse, I would say.

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But outside of that, you know,
you have the instincts and you

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can feel the changes in their
body and their emotions.

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And that's I, I think that's
what you can feel alongside.

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But then like I said, once you
have a horse that you connect

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with, even better, I think
that's where like that spiritual

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side comes in, that emotional
side comes in that you can, that

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makes you and that horse even
more special that you don't get

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with every horse.
I mean, I have, I've had lots of

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horses that I've owned and rode
and raced throughout my

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lifetime.
And, and not all of them are

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like that.
I wouldn't say I have like a

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heart connection with every
single one of them.

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It's just the unique one along
the way that you get to have

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that.
Sure.

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Yeah, It's like the special
friend, you know, the people

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that you meet where you talk to
them for like, you know, an hour

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and then you realize like, Oh my
God, where have you been?

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Like my whole life, you know,
like, you know, you just people

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that, you know, you guys are on
the same wavelength.

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It feels like almost.
It's really cool.

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It's really, it's really, really
beautiful.

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So.
So you're 8, So you're 18.

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This happens.
This accident happens.

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You are thrown out of your truck
and you're told that you won't

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be able to get back on the horse
for your entire life.

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Four months later, you're back
on the horse.

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Is this the looking back?
Was that like a defiance?

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Was that, is it your nature or
personality to kind of be like,

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oh, you're telling me I can't do
this, so I'm going to do this?

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Or was it something that you
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wasn't going to be the case?
What was what was your

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perspective like at the time and
what were you able to do to

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kind?
Of rally the horse part of it I

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mean even laying there in the
hospital or layman laying on the

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side of the road it was like
getting back on a horse wasn't

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an option that was going to
happen right I was like this is

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what we're doing I don't know
exactly how I'm doing it per SE

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but this is what you're doing I
but I think also because I had

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that tough of a mentality when I
did get back on that was

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shattering for me but prior yeah
because I realized got.

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Back on him.
I realized it wasn't going to be

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the same, right?
Like I had told people, I had

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told myself, I had built it up
to myself, like I'm getting back

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on a horse and it's going to be
magic and that will not change,

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right?
Everything else is going to

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change, but that can't change.
That's my world.

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And of course it's not
realistic, right?

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And so it really didn't get me
as much that doctors or people

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were like, hey, like this is
going to be hard because I was

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just like, you don't freaking
know, you know, like you don't

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know, like this is what I do.
Like this is a part of who I am.

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So like, you're not, you don't
understand when I realized it

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that it wasn't going to be the
same, that that was hard.

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I mean that was when I crushed
to realize like Oh my gosh, I

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bet this is my new reality.
And then what?

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And then what?
And then, and then, and then

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from there, were you just like,
were you in despair?

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Were you immediately looking for
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How long did it take?
Because I think that what I, you

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know, what I'm trying to get,
you know, I mean, I, I know that

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myself, for example, I'm sure a
lot of people can relate one way

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or the other.
I am extremely, I'm extremely

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fearful, you know, and I, I and
one of the things I think that

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the root of a lot of my fear
comes from a place where I feel

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like I don't have what it takes
to handle the unknown, you know,

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and then the and then the
opposite, you know, the

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confidence is in whatever
particular area of my life, I'm

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like, oh, I know that I've been
up against hard things.

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I know I could handle that.
I know, you know what, for

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example, before I have my first
kid, I had a panic attack, you

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know, like right before my wife
gave birth to her, he gave birth

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to him.
And then the second time around,

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I was about to have that panic
attack and I thought to myself,

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yeah, wait a minute.
Like you did this.

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Like, you know, it's not going
to be easy, you know, but like

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you've done this before, like,
you know, like this is, you've

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shown yourself that this is
something you can handle, you

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know, but until that, you know,
but that first time, that first,

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you know, time that I, I, I was,
I, I was not aware that I could

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handle something like that.
That's kind of when the whole

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world felt like it was crashing
down around me.

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And I don't know if I was going
to be able to handle it.

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And, you know, and I, and I, and
I think that part of what I did

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was I almost went numb, you
know, for a little while until I

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was able to slowly kind of feel
myself back into, into myself,

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you know, into, into back, you
know, coming back to myself

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again and saying, Hey, if I'm
you, you, you, you can handle

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this, you know, you, you, you
could, you could do this and

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it's fine.
Did, was that, was that a

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similar experience?
When because there's a shot, you

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know, there's the actual
accident.

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And then what you, what you,
what you described, There's the

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there's the moment where you
realize yourself that no matter

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what everyone else around you
said, it hits home with you that

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this is reality now you.
Know that that was such a tricky

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part because that I think that
is when a different process had

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to start.
So at that point I had to put

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the pieces together on my saddle
of how I was going to ride and

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then also face the reality away
from the horses on.

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I said it was like it was that
day that I realized this was the

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new reality.
Prior to that, you know,

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obviously it's very hard and my
body is not working like I

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wanted to and I'm facing all
these challenges.

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But I kept just thinking that
once I get back on a horse, it

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was going to change.
And so when it didn't, that's

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when I really had to start to
face all of the changes

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mentally, emotionally,
physically, spiritually, on and

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off of a horse.
And we went through the process

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with the horses of getting a
seat belt, getting him some

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straps, go for a little bit.
But then I realized it, it

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really wasn't the same.
And that made me so frustrated

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that I quit.
I said, you know, I'm done.

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Sell my horses.
If this isn't like it's going to

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be before, I don't want to do
it.

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And I went to school without my
horses, obviously went just went

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to college and and tried to find
something else I could love as

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much as them, which did not
happen.

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I mean, that was ridiculous.
That wasn't going to happen.

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Oh, I like tried to learn to
play the guitar and just like I

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cooked, which I do still love to
cook and then even just like

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hang out with friends, like try
to stay busy just doing things

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like that.
I took AI mean I took a bowling.

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I did a bowling class.
I wouldn't say like I took it up

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as like a full blown hobby, but
like, yeah, I did that.

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I just kind of tried to engulf
in like college, if that makes

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sense.
So I'm not like a I've never

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been a partier and that didn't
change either.

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But like I didn't like start
partying or anything.

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I just was like, try to stay
busy, engulfed in college

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activities, right?
Like I helped with the football

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team.
I, you know, got a job on

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campus.
I just like things like that.

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Like I just tried to find a new
niche for my life for what I

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could do.
I'm not one that idols very

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well.
I don't sit still very well.

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So I try to stay busy in another
way.

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And, and I wouldn't say like I
was like full blown, I wasn't

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depressed like I was OK, you
know, I was fine.

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I was happy.
I had good stuff and memories

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and I made really great friends
and all those things.

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But you know, a part of me still
missing and, and that's how it

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was.
But when I tell people, you

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know, it's it when they face
hard things too.

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And I say, it's OK if you have
to take a step back sometimes.

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It doesn't mean you're giving
up.

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It doesn't mean you're quitting.
I mean, I say I quit, but I also

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knew in my heart it wasn't
forever.

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So I was like, it doesn't mean,
you know, you're a loser or it

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doesn't mean anything like that.
It just means, you know, take a

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step back and gain some
perspective or put yourself in a

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better place mentally,
emotionally, physically,

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spiritually, somewhere or if all
those things so that you can

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handle that and enjoy that.
And I feel like that's what I

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did.
I went to school, I figured out

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how to live life in a chair.
I figured out how to still like

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myself and still enjoy being
myself and realize I could still

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have friends and I could still
do things even though I.

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What'd you do to do that?
I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry to cut you off.
Would you?

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Because that's such an important
thing.

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I think most people don't know
how to love themselves and like

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themselves as as much as they
probably would like to.

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And so what'd you do to like
rediscover that?

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Like really?
Because I know it's hard work.

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I know that from like from me, I
had, I had to go through periods

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of loneliness where I had to
really do a lot of writing, a

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lot of thinking, a lot of like,
you know, just being with myself

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and like, why am I the way I am?
Did you, did you, did you have

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times like that or what?
How'd you?

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How'd you you?
Know, I think who you.

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Are you know?
I think at that part, like you,

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you still find things that
you're good at.

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So I think that's a piece for me
is finding something that still

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brings me joy and something that
I recognize I can still do.

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So like for instance, I'm not
good at guitar, so I did not

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find it there.
That was not fun for me.

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I'm not good at that.
But if I tell you like to cook

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like I would cook for me and my
roommates and, and I'm good at

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that.
Like I, I was good at that.

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I enjoyed that.
So I felt like.

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Recognizing that or when I went
bowling, like we had Ida bowling

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class and then we did other
stuff and it was like I realized

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I could still be good at that,
like and and just finding value

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in that.
And then even recognizing that

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me as a person, like these new
people that I met at college,

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they didn't know The Walking me.
They only knew this me and they

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still wanted to be my friend.
So I think, you know, even

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changing my perspective in that
of like these people don't care

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what I've won or if I've won
anything.

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Like they don't care about that.
You know, they are just like,

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Hey, we met you, we like you, we
hang out with you.

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And I mean, it was my roommates
that kind of don't have a

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choice, right?
Like, I feel like you all become

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friends, but really you could
hate each other if you wanted.

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And and that wasn't the case.
Like we all, we all got along

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and we still do.
Like I'm still, I see those

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girls a couple times a year and,
and it was just like recognizing

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that and that anything that they
wanted to do, they were like,

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Hey, what can we do?
So Amberly can come.

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And I think surrounding myself
with people who wanted me to be

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involved, regardless of if it
was a little bit harder to be

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involved is where I recognized
like, you know what, I'm still a

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good person.
I still like who I am.

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People still like me for who I
am.

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And I obviously I'm, I've always
had a leader mentality.

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So like I took on some
leadership roles and recognize

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that just because I'm in a
chair, that doesn't change what

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I'm capable of as far as that
aspect either.

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And, and I still tell you that
that's just my personality.

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So I think that right, like you
have to recognize, OK, I can't

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do this, but I can do this and
really appreciate all for that.

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And that takes practice.
Yeah, it's amazing.

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I bet it does.
How?

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I mean, how long did I'm sure it
took?

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I'm sure it took months, if not
years.

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Oh.
I would tell you I still have to

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do that, right?
It's like, it's like there's

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still bad days that you're like,
this is just not what I planned

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on And and this is not fair.
And I'm and I hate this and, and

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I hate that my legs don't work
and I hate, you know, there's, I

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still have that, like that's
still real.

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But I, you know, and I have
those moments where I get upset

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and then I can take a step back
and be like, OK, but you know,

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what can I do?
And what do I have that I

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appreciate and, and look at
these people who are who I've

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surrounded myself with and these
opportunities that I have and

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these abilities that I have.
And then, you know, it can

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change your perspective again.
But I, if I get in my lowest of

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lowest days, which still do
happen, when I get in days where

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I'm really upset, I won, I allow
myself to be upset.

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I think that's a part of the
process.

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I think that some people feel
like if they are, we like have a

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bad day.
Like if they're like, man, I

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just feel like I'm mentally
being defeated that they think

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something's wrong with them.
Something is not wrong with you.

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When that happens, something is
not wrong with you.

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You're, you're human and you're
allowed to have a bad day.

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So have it, have a bad day and
then recognize that tomorrow can

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be a different day.
But I remind myself all the

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time.
So like I said, one, I let

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myself feel those emotions, but
then two, I remind myself

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somebody is praying for what I
have.

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And that sure as heck humbles
you right back to OK, you're OK.

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Yeah, definitely, definitely.
It's really interesting.

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So, and I guess just listening,
you know, from the outside

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looking in, you know, it's you
had I, you know, it's, it's a

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story of having a identity and a
sense of self and a perception

441
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,160
of this is who you are.
Having that shattered and then

442
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,520
rediscovering, wait a minute,
who I thought, who I thought it

443
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,080
was isn't who I am, who I am is
who I am.

444
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:21,720
And then actually coming to
terms with that and like seeing

445
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,440
that I'm a leader, I am a
friend.

446
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,800
I am, I do love horses, I do
love cooking.

447
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,040
I do love, you know, whatever,
whatever it is that, that, that,

448
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,840
that you're working and, and
that, you know, what made you,

449
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,720
you wasn't, you know, what you
thought it was.

450
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,200
And then coming to terms with
that is the is that journey.

451
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,640
So that's what it sounds like
from the outside.

452
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,480
I feel like I've had similar
scenarios.

453
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,480
You know, I remember, you know,
I mean, you know, I come from a

454
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:52,760
very small Orthodox Jewish world
where it's very common to be

455
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,400
married by not by 2122 years
old, right?

456
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,560
And I got married at 20, almost
26.

457
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,280
And I was, you know, and, and I
put an enormous amount of

458
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,880
pressure on myself for probably
two or three years every time I

459
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,520
was going on dates and every
single time I was like, this is

460
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,080
where I'm supposed to be.
This is where I'm supposed to

461
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,320
be.
This is who I'm supposed to be.

462
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,880
And I'm like, and then at a
certain point, I threw my hands

463
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,960
up.
I, you know, my 25th birthday, I

464
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:23,040
threw my hands up and I was
like, I, you know what, I'm

465
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,600
going to just focus on being the
best me that I could be.

466
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,760
And whenever, whenever the time
comes for, you know, partner to

467
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,680
come along is the time the
partner comes along.

468
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,760
But right now, the only thing I
can focus on is just being the

469
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,680
best person, you know, the best
person that I try to be and be

470
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,440
ready for whenever it happens.
And, and so, and from that

471
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,480
minute, so much had changed.
You know, at that point, I was

472
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,240
living at my parents and I
wanted to get out and I was

473
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,720
giving myself excuses to not
pursue passions like, you know,

474
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,800
playing guitar racks today.
I also picked it up around

475
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,000
around 2526.
And, you know, and I said to

476
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,120
myself, what, what, what excuse
am I giving myself that this

477
00:25:58,120 --> 00:25:59,880
setup isn't right or that setup
is not right.

478
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,200
Like if at my, you know, if I'm
at my root, you know, I'm trying

479
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,480
to just discover who I am.
I'm not just a product of my

480
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,280
surroundings, then, you know,
got it.

481
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,480
You got it, you got it, you got
it.

482
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:16,520
You got to jump right in, you
know, Awesome, awesome, awesome.

483
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:23,120
So, so you so you went ahead and
you started this foundation.

484
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,080
Yeah.
So.

485
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,400
My it's called the armily.
Snyder Freedom Foundation.

486
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,320
I started it a couple years ago.
I'm still in the fundraising

487
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,880
stages of it.
Turns out foundations take a lot

488
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,840
of time.
A lot of time.

489
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:45,200
And I am an extremely busy
person and I love, I love what I

490
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,600
do.
So I don't complain that I am

491
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,040
busy, but I am busy.
And so I've just started

492
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,760
fundraising for it.
So eventually I'll be able to

493
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,400
come around to it and, and I get
to just put these pieces

494
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,040
together so that I feel like
I'll be able to have enough

495
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560
money to really like open it and
make a big change on it.

496
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,800
So I do little fundraising
things here and there, obviously

497
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:11,720
with podcasts and whatnot.
So the plan of it is to give

498
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,640
kids or people with disabilities
pieces of freedom.

499
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,680
So I know for me after my
accident, to lose so much

500
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,080
independence was devastating.
And so I want to be able to

501
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,960
allow people or help them get
that independence back.

502
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,880
So whether that's hand controls
in a vehicle or, you know, a

503
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,440
ramp in their house or be able
to make something accessible

504
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,000
that wasn't accessible to them,
it's those pieces of

505
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000
independence that helps us
continue to grow and be OK with

506
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,440
who we are in the situation
we're in.

507
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,920
So that's what it's going to do.
It's going to give pieces of

508
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,680
independence and to people,
beautiful.

509
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,360
Beautiful.
It's really amazing.

510
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,040
It's really amazing.
I hope, I wish you lots of

511
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,480
success with it.
I'm sure it's going to be.

512
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,120
I hope it.
I hope it impacts and touches a

513
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,600
ton of people.
What was it like having a

514
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,080
documentary made of you?
I I watched a video where you

515
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,160
said at first that you weren't
really into the idea of it.

516
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,960
And I guess I could, I guess I
could ask you after, what was it

517
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,480
like working with Netflix?
Was it only Netflix that was

518
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,600
reaching out?
Was it something that you had in

519
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:28,360
mind, never had in mind So.
Originally they, I, I actually

520
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:31,120
had a little small production
company reach out to me and ask

521
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:33,280
if they could make a movie about
my story.

522
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,400
And I told them no.
But then I talked to my parents

523
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,360
and I came back and said, OK, so
that is what happened.

524
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:46,400
And then they, well, I didn't
feel like I have done something

525
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,800
that I wanted to like make a
story about, if that makes

526
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,160
sense.
Like to me, I was just back on a

527
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,880
horse winning yet.
And so I'm like, it's not cool

528
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,080
that I just got back on a horse.
Like I want to be able to be

529
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,120
winning.
And at that point, you know, it

530
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,400
doesn't, you don't realize that
people are like, no, what you're

531
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,840
doing just right now is
incredible, right?

532
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,480
So for me being as competitive
as I am, I'm like, well, if I'm

533
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,480
not winning, it doesn't matter.
I do have moments now.

534
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,680
Obviously I still like to win,
but I do have moments now where

535
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,280
I'm like, Oh my gosh, like I
realize I really am the only one

536
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,440
doing what I'm doing.
And honestly, it is pretty

537
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,560
incredible that I still get to
do it and at the level that I'm

538
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,640
doing it at so that I do have
moments that like I even bring

539
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,360
myself back to that.
But so when they asked, you

540
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,480
know, we ended up writing the
script and then their contract

541
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,560
dissolved.
It just ended.

542
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,680
And so then I ran in the
American in 2015 and another

543
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,560
company came on and I said no
again for the same reason.

544
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,160
I well, this time around
actually, I was more like, you

545
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,160
know, my family's been through
enough the first time.

546
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,360
I really don't need them to
relive this, but after?

547
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,600
What was I'm sorry, what was
writing?

548
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,480
What was the initial script or
working on a script like because

549
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,160
are you was it?
Did I did I have a script about

550
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,960
like what the conversations are
going to be like?

551
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,680
They have a script as to a
narration.

552
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,480
What was what was that?
What was that like?

553
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Just because I love writing and
I I I love the background.

554
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,920
They came to they came to my
house and interviewed my family

555
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760
and me and then put together
this story.

556
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,040
So that's that's what we ended
up we did.

557
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,480
Is that they Yeah.
So they came and and we

558
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,000
interviewed pieces of my, you
know, my family.

559
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,520
We'd and then they pull
different stories, I would say,

560
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,520
from members of my family.
And they were like, OK.

561
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,360
And then they pieced it together
to read the script.

562
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,640
And then obviously they showed
it to me and were like, hey, do

563
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,200
you want this?
And I at that point was like,

564
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,400
all right, I want to make sure
that this gets thrown in on

565
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,160
story or Nah, that really, I
don't really think that needs to

566
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320
be included.
We were all to piece it together

567
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,480
that way.
Yeah.

568
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,200
OK, Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
I was, I was curious about that.

569
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960
That's really interesting.
OK, So you so at this point you

570
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,400
got the script, you see some
things you like, some things are

571
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,040
OK, some you know, the deal
falls apart, another deal

572
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,480
happens.
You say that you don't want your

573
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,520
families to deal with that
again.

574
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,320
Do do you have the material at
this point that that those those

575
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,920
interviews or is that with that?
Was that was the initial reach

576
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,520
out that we did those interviews
and things and then like I said,

577
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,880
they wrote the script.
Yeah, well, they actually ended

578
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,960
up buying that script from that
other company.

579
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,680
OK, cool.
Gotcha.

580
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,960
Gotcha.
And then how and then how hands

581
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,720
on was it?
How were you get, did you get to

582
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,800
be involved?
Did you get to were there parts

583
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,320
where you're like, listen, I
think this is important or not

584
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,160
important?
What was it like the second?

585
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,800
Company, the second company, you
know, they took it, they twisted

586
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,760
it after The American and then
that's when we gave it to

587
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,560
Netflix.
So then and they sold it to

588
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,080
Netflix right near the end of
that.

589
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,760
And I, I mean, I didn't, I, I
was a producer on it.

590
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,680
I had an opinion, not a say.
So I had to learn that that once

591
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,400
they buy your story, my opinion
matters.

592
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,120
But the final decision isn't up
to me.

593
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,720
And that was kind of difficult
on a few different things

594
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,040
because it was easy for others
to forget that it's my actual

595
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,400
life.
Like it's a real life.

596
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,920
It's not.
I know that they're reading a

597
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,440
script and building a story, but
it's a real 1.

598
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,600
And I'm literally sitting there.
And so that was for reading

599
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,120
sometimes that I would be like,
that's not how that happened.

600
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,800
And they're like, well, but
that's how we want it in the

601
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:41,440
movie.
That I was actually curious

602
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,480
that, that, that, that that's,
that's reinforcing what I what I

603
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,240
thought, what I had a feeling
about, I was nervous about.

604
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,520
So what was so, so, so that
happened?

605
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,720
So did that happen often or that
was a couple of times?

606
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:57,840
A few times.
OK, OK, OK, OK.

607
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,440
So then we have the finished
product.

608
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,920
What's what's missing that you
feel like you would have wanted

609
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,840
put in or what was put in that
you feel like you would have

610
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160
wanted a change if you could
talk about it?

611
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,320
I.
Feel like if you.

612
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,960
Can't.
I feel like that they could have

613
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:24,200
included my family.
So that was kind of a bummer

614
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,000
that I feel like my family
wasn't included as much as they

615
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,720
wanted to.
There were some hiccups with

616
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,120
that, that I had approved people
to to be the actors in my movie,

617
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,960
and they ended up changing some
of those.

618
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,520
So then people got pulled out
and shifted.

619
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,120
And so I had some.
Yeah.

620
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,600
So I, I, if you watch the movie,
most people think I only have

621
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,920
three siblings and I actually
have five siblings.

622
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,520
But that was poor production and
poor that, that they had to make

623
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,360
some changes with some cast.
Yep.

624
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,560
So I wish that that had been
better.

625
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,520
Really, that's my biggest
complaint.

626
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,360
I think that if you know,
knowing what I know now, I

627
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,520
wasn't on set every single day
because I was still trying to

628
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,719
rodeo that summer.
I feel like knowing what I know

629
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,760
now, I would have skipped that
rodeo of summer, that summer of

630
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,000
rodeo.
I would have skipped that summer

631
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,440
of rodeo and been there every
single day just for small things

632
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,840
that could have been better.
Not that probably people even

633
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,080
notice those details, but I do.
Yeah.

634
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,840
Yeah, I do.
And so I think I would have

635
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,639
wanted.
To do those.

636
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,239
Differently, but you know,
realistically, like overall, I

637
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,520
felt like the movie did exactly
what it was supposed to.

638
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,960
It was, I mean it, it helps a
lot of people.

639
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,040
It's served a lot of purpose and
that part I appreciate.

640
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,960
Yeah, Did you immediately get
people reaching out after that

641
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,120
happened?
Did you see like an explosion of

642
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,120
of, of reach out or was it slow
or what?

643
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,840
What was the what was the
general?

644
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,920
You know, because there are
times where I, you know, where I

645
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,960
watch things on, you know, you
know, different documentaries,

646
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,440
different shows or even YouTube
videos.

647
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,920
And there are times where I feel
like I really, really relate and

648
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,680
connect to this person.
I'm going to reach out, you

649
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,520
know, And then there are times
where I watch, I'm like, OK,

650
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,720
that's fun.
Did you get a lot of, do you get

651
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:21,520
a lot of reach outs after it
came out?

652
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,200
Or was it, do you notice there's
a particular like you know, a

653
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,920
particular, you know person, you
know person or place that these

654
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,440
people are from reaching out?
To.

655
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,040
Me that that.
Related to you, I definitely

656
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:40,880
still get a lot of of that.
I get a lot of people that just

657
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,120
watch my movie or have watched
it and this is all over the

658
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,880
whole world and I get messages
from them.

659
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,080
So yeah, I, I still get, and it
was overnight, right?

660
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,280
Like when it when it was
released, I got so many

661
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,080
messages.
And then I felt like that stayed

662
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,600
pretty big and strong for like a
year, honestly.

663
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:02,760
And, and I still, I get fan, I
get fan messages every single

664
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,640
day.
And so I'm still getting those.

665
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,720
I'm still seeing those.
I'm getting to see people that

666
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,920
my story has impacted them,
whether from the movie or then

667
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,400
after the movie watching me.
So yeah, I mean, I still see the

668
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,840
impact.
I feel like it was huge and I

669
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,160
feel like it still is carrying
on.

670
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,040
And the movies been out for
quite a few years now.

671
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, one of the

672
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,040
benefits of it being on a
platform like Netflix is that

673
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,480
because they've got that
algorithm, it's very hard for

674
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,320
movies to get lost in the
shuffle if if someone expresses

675
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,960
interest in that type of genre,
you know, So, you know,

676
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,520
typically speaking until now,
you know, you'd have a movie and

677
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,080
it'd be 10 years old and then it
just means it'd be 10 years down

678
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,320
the queue, you know.
But you know, I mean, having the

679
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,480
having the I guess that would be
one of the benefits I would say

680
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,880
about working with a company
like Netflix would be that they

681
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,080
that the reach is so is so far.
It's it's insane.

682
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,740
And and then the algorithm can
keep all it can keep, quote UN

683
00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:10,960
quote older content fresh and
relevant that I mean, I don't

684
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,440
expect for it to really go
anywhere for for, you know, just

685
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,760
years.
You know, just the fact that

686
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,600
this came up, you know, six
months ago on my timeline, you.

687
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,200
Always.
Yep.

688
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,720
I feel like that's what's so
crazy, right, is that people are

689
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,880
still, they're just still
finding it.

690
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So can I talk to you a little

691
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,560
bit about your, your new
marriage?

692
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:45,000
Is that, do you mind?
I the reason why I think it's

693
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,160
important, the reason why I want
to talk about is because I

694
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,040
really believe that there's a
loneliness epidemic in in the,

695
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,760
in the in the States, you know,
and I think a lot of people are

696
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,240
lonely.
I think a lot of people don't

697
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,680
have relationships or afraid,
you know, you know, afraid to

698
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:06,320
kind of get into them, you know,
and there's, you know, I think

699
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,520
that there's just, I think
there's a disconnect between

700
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,720
people.
And it's funny, I actually just

701
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:14,440
got back from Europe.
I was in Amsterdam and Barcelona

702
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:20,160
and, and one of the things I
noticed about that about those

703
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,880
places was that people tend
tended to be more friendly, more

704
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,560
social, more interactive.
When you're in the supermarket,

705
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,920
you had people's headphones
weren't in and people were, you

706
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,600
know, not afraid to make eye
contact, to look around and say

707
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,920
hello to people.
You know, first of all,

708
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,360
congratulations on on, on on
getting married again.

709
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,040
You know, we talked just a
minute before we started

710
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,560
recording.
I congratulate, you know, but

711
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,080
I'm really, really happy.
What what advice would you have

712
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,080
for people that are dating?
What advice would you have for

713
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,160
people that are trying to look
for a partner?

714
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,680
What the what were you looking
for?

715
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,680
And see if we can kind of oh.
I so I'm, I've always been like

716
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,560
kind of picky, I would say on,
on what I was looking for and I

717
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,960
feel like everyone should be
girl and boy alike.

718
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,480
I think that you should be picky
and knowing like when you're

719
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,640
looking for your life partner,
that's exactly what they should

720
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,680
be, right?
Your partner should be somebody

721
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,920
that that is there for all the
realms.

722
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,880
So that is in your passion, that
is at home, that is in your

723
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:35,160
love, like all of those things.
And so I mean, I, I was picky in

724
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,480
what I was looking for.
And I will say, I think that the

725
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,720
chair eliminates some people
just immediately because they

726
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:45,120
just don't even want to try to
be in that.

727
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,240
And I'm like, you know, at first
that kind of hurt my feelings

728
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,360
because I recognized that there
was people that I didn't maybe

729
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,760
connect with that I would have
connected with prior to.

730
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,560
And I knew that.
But at the same point, you know,

731
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,880
once I realized that I liked who
I was and I know what value I

732
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,080
have and what I am, then then
that was OK.

733
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:16,840
I figured the.
So that first step, that first

734
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,040
step was just knowing what you
were looking for and then being

735
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,080
comfortable with who you are.
Yeah.

736
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,440
Well, that first step is really
hard for a lot to what you got

737
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,320
to I imagine you know what do
you.

738
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,440
Yeah, OK.
And then and then the actual and

739
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,840
actual relationship part
navigating it, you know, that's

740
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:41,280
that's that's the hard part,
right.

741
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,280
That's that's where, you know,
finding, you know, I guess

742
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,880
almost finding a person, as
crazy as it sounds, is actually

743
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,760
part I'm sure when.
Oh.

744
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:55,320
Yeah, my life is so busy and
hectic that also finding

745
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,160
somebody who is OK with my busy
life, that was also a part of

746
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,000
it.
Because I'm not home every

747
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,280
night, like I'm not ever going
to be home every night.

748
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,880
I'm on the road quite often and
so I had to find someone that

749
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,560
was OK with that and handled
that and didn't make me feel

750
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,440
guilty for that.
And so that is also one of the

751
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,080
pieces that I think is important
is the person that it that you

752
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,760
end up with needs to be OK with
the lifestyle that you have.

753
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Not that adjustments won't be
made.

754
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,720
I've made adjustments, he's made
adjustments, but that you don't

755
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:30,920
want somebody that you know, you
dated that was like, hey, this

756
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,760
is cool while you dated, but now
if we're like together, I really

757
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,640
want you home every night.
Well, that's not going to work

758
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,520
like I was.
I'm the same person I was in the

759
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,400
beginning.
And that part, I mean, and even

760
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,520
navigating the dating world that
was a struggle with some people

761
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,000
is that they just, they didn't
like how busy I was.

762
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I was actually, it's my sister.

763
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,720
I was talking to my
sister-in-law who's currently,

764
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,480
you know, going through the
whole dating process and, you

765
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,200
know, trying to figure, you
know, trying to find your way

766
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,520
through it.
And one of the things we were

767
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,720
talking about was she was like,
there's a guy and we get along

768
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,560
so well.
But like, you know, I'm not sure

769
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,600
if like, you know, our
backgrounds are going to be

770
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,720
quite the same, you know, or
like, you know, the way that

771
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,280
what, what our expectations of
like day-to-day life and values

772
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,520
are going to be like.
And I was like, you know, I, I,

773
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,120
I, you know, I think that that's
something that's, I think that's

774
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,720
something that most people kind
of are willing to put aside for

775
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:31,240
a little bit.
Is you know that like, you know,

776
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,800
it's so exciting when you find
someone that you just get to

777
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,880
know and that you that you guys,
you have that kind of that, that

778
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,360
enthusiasm that you know, when
that enthusiasm does fade away.

779
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,840
Most of life is day-to-day and
most of life is, you know, the

780
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,640
way that you carry yourself, you
know, in the minutes, you know

781
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,080
that, that, that you don't think
about, you know, and, and you

782
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,920
know, in those little, in the
little moments like, you know,

783
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,800
like whether or not you know, I
don't want to, I don't mean to

784
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,360
make it, you know, this isn't as
big of a deal, but things like,

785
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,400
you know, or things like, you
know, how much you expect to be

786
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,240
it's.
Day-to-day things, I really, I

787
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,200
think it is super important to
recognize that the person you're

788
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,720
with is that you mesh.
You've got a mesh.

789
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,440
Yes.
Oh.

790
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,120
Man, I've had some really fun
places.

791
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:29,720
I've I have spoke in 45 states
now and I've actually been 47

792
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:34,040
states, so I've nearly covered
the whole country and I've I, I

793
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:40,880
love, let's see, I will tell you
I have it written down.

794
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,080
So I'm, yes, I just went to
Alaska for my honeymoon,

795
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,640
actually.
So it was amazing.

796
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,800
Yeah, it was amazing summer.
Time is probably incredible.

797
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,600
We.
Left Vancouver, Canada and then

798
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,600
went through Alaska and then
and, and then came back up to

799
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,680
Canada.
It was.

800
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,280
Amazing.
I've been dying to do that.

801
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Actually, I lived in Seattle
for, for a year and I love the

802
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,520
North, the Pacific Northwest
and, and I and I and I've been

803
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,360
and I've been dying to go on one
of those cruises.

804
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:42,400
It was amazing.
Cool.

805
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,920
I feel like those are pretty
easy now, especially in the

806
00:44:45,920 --> 00:45:01,260
horse riding community, right?
Right.

807
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:08,860
What's your what's, what's your
process for before speaking?

808
00:45:08,860 --> 00:45:11,580
Do you get pregame butterflies?
Do you take notes?

809
00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:13,340
Bullet points?
Do you have everything pre

810
00:45:13,340 --> 00:45:14,300
written out?
What do you do?

811
00:45:29,780 --> 00:45:49,760
Yeah.
And what's your process for for

812
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,720
writing?
I started up writing for, for,

813
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,960
for preparing to speak when
you're actually speaking.

814
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,480
Because I actually, I, I, I, I
teach high school part time.

815
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,640
And part of one, part of the
things that I do is I force my

816
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,600
English class to, to give a 5
minute presentation.

817
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,800
And inevitably every semester
someone gets up and they think

818
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,080
that they can talk 5 minutes
about anything, you know,

819
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,520
without any preparation.
And then after 45 seconds they

820
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,480
run out of things to talk about.
And, you know, and so I end up,

821
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,760
you know, so I end up, you know,
I end up having walking through

822
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,120
what it's like to prepare to,
you know, to actually get ready

823
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,160
to speak.
What what?

824
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,240
What advice?
What's your process?

825
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,520
So you keep it intimate, you
keep it, you keep it, you keep

826
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,840
it personal.
Do you, do you, do you come up

827
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,600
with notes in advance of what
you're going to talk about?

828
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Or do you like have topics that
you know, you want to touch on

829
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,360
or you go to?
How do you, how do you go about

830
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:48,650
that?
Yeah, me neither.

831
00:47:48,650 --> 00:47:58,970
It's tough.
Yeah.

832
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:26,790
Yeah, Totally.
Definitely.

833
00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:28,830
Definitely, definitely.
Yeah.

834
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:32,600
Excuse me, I there's a comedian,
Tom Segura.

835
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,840
I don't know if you're familiar
with him.

836
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,080
He's a pretty famous comedian.
And one of the things that he

837
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,880
was talking about his process,
he's like, I don't like to have

838
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:47,320
specific lines and words because
he goes it, you know it one

839
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,360
night, especially if you're, if
you're, you know, performing in

840
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,240
public, if you enunciate one
word a little differently, it

841
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:55,880
gets a totally different
reaction to the crowd.

842
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,720
And you kind of have to count
like what you're saying on like

843
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:00,280
every word being delivered
perfectly.

844
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,840
He's like, I prefer personally,
he goes, I just have a list of

845
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,800
bullet points of topics that I
know I'm going to bring up.

846
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,400
And then I, and then I, and then
you go and I improvise with

847
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,040
them.
And then one hand, it's a lot

848
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,000
scarier because you're
improvising and you might get

849
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,920
stuck in another hand That's I
feel like we're a lot of the

850
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,840
fun, spontaneous and some of the
most creative.

851
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,800
The most creative moments happen
for sure.

852
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,160
Do you find your stories change
over time?

853
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,120
Because I find that as I tell
stories over and over, things

854
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,680
get to become a little more
dramatic or dramatized or

855
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,280
anything like that.
Do you ever notice that

856
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:52,120
happened?
Sure,

857
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:17,640
yes.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

858
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:19,160
I mean, I, you know, I'd hope
not.

859
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,080
I, I, I, I, I try not to.
I end up catching myself, you

860
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,480
know, even things around the
house, like, you know, I'm

861
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,840
telling a story to a friend and
then and then my wife who looks

862
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,880
at me, she goes, you just told
me that story 10 minutes ago and

863
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,240
you said that you left the house
20 minutes before and I said 30.

864
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,560
And I was like, I know, I'm
just, you know, I end up

865
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,440
getting, I end up getting
excited and dramatic about it.

866
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:42,000
So, so, yeah, of course I'm not
talking about full on, you know,

867
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,800
but I think that you, you also
notice that a certain, when

868
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,960
you're, when you're a
storyteller, you're telling

869
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,720
stories and you're reading
along, especially one person or

870
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,760
a couple of people as they're
going with you, you can tell

871
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,080
that there's certain dramatic
flares that they're almost

872
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,720
waiting for yourself.
You know, that like you're

873
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:02,640
looking for something dramatic
that had happened or that that

874
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,040
that would happen.
You're trying to kind of

875
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,640
emphasize it, but obviously not
changing the changing the whole

876
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,280
thing.
So what's, what's, what do you,

877
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,200
what's next?
What are you, what are you

878
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,760
looking forward to?
What's, what do you hope to

879
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,840
accomplish the next 5-10,
fifteen years?

880
00:51:28,170 --> 00:52:16,440
Beautiful.
Yes, yes,

881
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:35,640
yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've noticed, Yeah, I've noticed

882
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,040
that, you know, that there's
only so many people I feel like

883
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,840
you can keep track of in your
life that you could be that

884
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,160
intentional about.
But those relationships tend to

885
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,560
last the longest for sure.
You know.

886
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,040
I mean, I've had friends that,
you know, we've been intentional

887
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,280
about our friendship and we've
talked about, you know, ups and

888
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,720
downs and everything for 1520
years now.

889
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,440
And, you know, and those are
people that, you know, when push

890
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,280
comes to shove and, you know,
when the hard times happen and

891
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,520
you don't feel like opening up
to people or anything, or you

892
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,120
just need to like get something
off your chest.

893
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,960
There's only like a couple of
people that you feel like you

894
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,120
could trust to just like talk to
about that, you know.

895
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:13,560
And those are the.
And yeah, I think, I think we

896
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,080
need that.
I think we really need that.

897
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,080
I think that we're I think we're
a lonely country.

898
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,880
And I think that you, you
emphasizing that your values are

899
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,000
enormous part relationship,
enormous part family, enormous

900
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,000
part friendships.
That should be something that I

901
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,240
think a lot of people should
really think about because

902
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,800
that's what's meaningful, you
know, that.

903
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,040
And, you know, I mean, I, I, I
think that a lot of, I, I mean,

904
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,520
I, I, I don't come from, I know
we grew up in totally different

905
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,680
universes.
I come from, you know, Rockland

906
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,880
County, New York, 20 minutes
north of Manhattan.

907
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:48,320
But, you know, there was,
there's, there's always been an

908
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,000
emphasis on like work and how
many hours you spend at work.

909
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,960
And you almost considered like,
you know, it's always considered

910
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
weird to be someone that was
like spending a lot of time with

911
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,560
family or like, you know,
hanging out with friends a lot,

912
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,960
you know, And it was almost
considered, you know, bizarre.

913
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,120
But I don't know if that that
necessarily contributes to

914
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,800
people's well-being, happiness
or meaning or purpose in their

915
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:20,480
lives as much, you know.
Yeah, definitely, definitely.

916
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,280
That's really awesome.
That's really awesome, Emily.

917
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,880
I really appreciate the time.
Thank you so much for making

918
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,640
time to speak with me today.
And your story's really, really

919
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,520
beautiful.
I'm, I I I love some of the

920
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,520
insight insight that you gave.
And, and this really, really

921
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,440
means so much.
Thank you so much for for, for

922
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:44,000
taking the time to do this.
All right, Emily, we'll be in

923
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,680
touch.
I wish you tons of luck.

924
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,600
Enjoy those last couple of
States and and I'll see the

925
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,600
next, I'll see the next big
project you're working on.

926
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,880
But congratulations on
everything and congratulations

927
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,000
on the wedding and the
honeymoon.

928
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,520
And this is really such a
pleasure.

929
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,480
Thank you.
All right, take Care now.

930
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:02,880
Bye.
Bye.