#116: Joshua “Pacey” Neuman, Andrew “Kivi” Hershenov

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Welcome to another episode of
Come Together.

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We're live.
Cheers.

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Hey, Cheers, dude.
Cheers.

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Dude.
This is Cheetos.

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It's it's the one.
It's the one problem with South

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Florida.
There's nothing, nothing you can

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do about it, dude.
No.

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You could spray, you could light
like those candles.

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People talk about the weather.
I was like a boring topic, but

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it's crazy how it's it's
everyone's lives in Florida.

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In Florida.
It's the one thing that matters

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because it's it's brutal.
Do you shoot that Lefrog shot?

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He's like, not usually, but
I'll.

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Yeah, that's what.
Yeah, that's what I did.

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OK.
No, I usually just drink the

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more slowly.
You know, I do.

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But I do it.
Yeah, I do.

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Do you want to?
No.

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See, I was.
That wasn't me testing.

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You shouldn't put ice in it.
Yes, you should.

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You wanted those that say you
should have put ice in it.

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You know why the weather is
really.

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If you really want, you can put
a drop of water to open.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Flavor.
Did you also do a whiskey

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tasting somewhere?
Yeah, we should do it.

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I think you.
I think you guys, you grabbed a

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picture of it somehow.
Kitty found a picture of it of

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your whiskey on that chat
somehow.

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No, I didn't see it.
Where did you do it?

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Yeah, I went to there.
There was a group of people

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doing it.
So we did it at it was a like a

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store that I'd never been to one
of these like little stores and

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they just someone started it and
hosted it and it was like good,

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what do you look?
I was going to get ice, but I

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was going to do ice in that
Well, that So the reason I like

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to put ice in it is because it
is a shock by Sarah.

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It's too, it's too strong.
No, but and it's pity and strong

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so and a little bit of ice, like
I know it dilutes the drink.

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That's what I say.
That's what I always say.

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It doesn't dilute it enough and
it's beautiful.

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What is it?
2 nights ago, I think Monday

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night actually, I poured myself
a glass of whiskey.

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Of course, I put like a pea size
last night.

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You too, dude.
Yeah, but yeah, like a little

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bit of ice.
Although I will.

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I'll take the ice out at a
certain point.

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I won't let it sit in there.
Oh, really?

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Yeah.
If I have, like, very particular

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dude.
Oh, because there's nothing

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worse.
Because I get your point.

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You want to be cold, you and you
want to be like a little softer.

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But with Leroy, there's nothing
worse.

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Dude.
I was drinking McAllen.

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Oh, yeah.
No, but there's nothing worse

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than water down.
We were back.

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We took a break because you were
you were telling me that you

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were you were where you were on
Epstein's list or something?

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Yeah, dude, first of all, I am
you.

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Are second of all, does any?
Does anyone know what's going

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on?
Does anyone actually know what's

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going on?
Dude, we started with the

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Epstein list.
We got Obama like is going to

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get fake, get arrested.
That was so did you see that the

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White House like an hour ago
posted that they're like really

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revealed that aliens exist and
like, oh, I didn't see that.

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Yeah, dude.
But they're going to say because

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they actually, they're like,
we're just saying Obama.

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We're like, they're like the
DOG.

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I don't know, I have the thing.
Yeah, dude, they're going to

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invest Obama.
Yeah, they're going to go.

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They're going to get it.
Yeah.

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How could I invest Obama and cop
this down on the.

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I mean they're.
Pretty sure the White House knew

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aliens existed.
No 100%.

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Right. 80 years.
Ago I know.

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But they're going to be
releasing that.

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It's so.
Good, now that they can't hide

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it anymore.
You think that's true?

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Yeah, like people are gonna.
Well, men in black, they, that's

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the whole men in black.
Thing it's smart, like no one

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could catch the killer 100 years
ago, but now you catch them the

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next.
Day yeah, that's true.

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Same type of thing, yeah dude,
do you think the mafia still

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exists?
Like it doesn't.

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In what capacity though?
Like.

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What do you mean?
Like you have like they counted

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so much on everything pretty
much being off the books.

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I know.
Isn't it a business model?

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And for everything else, like,
yeah, OK, maybe they could do

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the cash advance shit, you know,
whenever.

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Be through a business.
Yeah, but it's not as fun as

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like when you like put up like
it's through fun as someone in

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with a face like that, like like
owning one of those shops and

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getting protection or whatever
when they go into the dining.

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Yeah, it's not like that.
Now you don't think?

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I bet it is dude.
Do you see that, Pirates?

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This guy, this guy's eating his
line, bro.

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You're supposed to.
You're not.

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You're supposed to be just like
a little like get rid of the

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tape.
No, it's a cocktail.

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When you have an oniejo tequila,
that's such an animal.

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He just he just like swallows
the whole thing.

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He's like a cow, dude.
Oh, I said animal.

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It could have been anything.
I know.

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I'm saying, wow.
I was thinking chewing cud.

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I was thinking Kiwi.
That made me think about it.

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I could have gone with tiger,
that dude.

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So what happened?
What is happening?

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What do you think?
Epstein, you're saying?

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With Epstein dude, what's going
on?

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What's with the Jews on lists?
Yeah, hey, oh, man, it's not

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going to be funny in 10 years,
man.

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In the Holocaust, dude.
Do you guys have a?

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Basement to hide in.
I have a.

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Basement, by the way, I have a
couple of buddies from

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Binghamton.
I'm going to try this beer.

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I'm saying this beer, by the
way, Shane Gill's got everyone

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into public.
Yeah.

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He wants to get off the
Holocaust.

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No, no, no.
I was.

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I was honestly, I was just like
taking this stuff.

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There's something crazy about a
beer that tastes this bad.

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It's not good.
But so good because it's so

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patriotic.
It's good when it's so cold.

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Ice.
Cold.

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I know it's true.
Ice cold.

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Anything other than ice cold,
it's.

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So bad.
There's nothing worse than War I

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and that.
You see, Shark Tank has spent

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the last 15 years.
Everyone brings up everyone's

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trying to find out how to keep
your beer cold.

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On the go for sure.
Yeah, it's the number one thing.

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And then it's just degrees of
eco friendliness.

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Yeah, Yeah.
So.

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The.
It's like, what, dude?

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I know I got.
I've gotten that.

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Yeah, but you don't use them
ever, dude.

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So so I I.
Do I literally forgot to bring

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it today?
It's America.

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It's got an American flag.
I.

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I believe you, dude, but yeah,
you forgot it because it's such

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a it's hard to remember.
It's one of my yeah, conscious

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mind that any given state to to
remember that.

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Yeah, exactly.
They're never really that

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productive.
All right, so.

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I should make a koozie that
crumples up into a ball and you

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could put it in like a pouch.
Shove it up.

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Oh.
It hangs on your keys.

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OK.
And then when you open the pouch

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it it.
Pops out.

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Pops out into acoustic.
That's not a bad idea, that

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definitely exists already.
For sure.

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For sure someone made that.
I've thought of.

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I don't.
Think you could patent?

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Something like that though.
Can you no lawyer?

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I've I someone who's taking like
2 CL ES on patents.

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No, you could.
You could probably patent it.

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You could patent my favorite
content.

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Everyone says patent pending.
Yeah, that means nothing, right?

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It just means that they're like,
put the means that they yeah,

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they filed it.
People get rejected for patents.

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There we go.
Yeah, collapsible koozie.

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Yeah, there it is.
Yeah, I hate to search.

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Was collapsible koozie.
I, I, I search koozie, fold it

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up, see I'm not a bad Jamie.
No, I will.

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I will say that what's
frustrating is that when you see

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a product on Shark Tank, this is
pissing me off.

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You'll see people are like spent
10 years doing this.

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I'm $300,000 in debt in two
years we're finally going to be

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profitable.
It's like an alcohol business.

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It's like a it's a good thing.
And then someone else will come

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home and be like, I created like
a widget to like hold your pen

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up and I spent $30 out the gate
and we're, you know, $2,000,000

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business debt.
It's like 1 path is so difficult

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and the other is just like a
great idea.

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Yeah, sure.
So I keep trying to think of

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like, what's the great idea that
doesn't put me in debt because

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for 10 years?
Yeah, because.

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Your only person who think was
thinking about that.

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You know, do you are there a lot
of I'm trying to think of how to

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make.
Money.

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What?
Granted that I don't have to

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work for the rest of my life?
Yeah.

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That upper middle class people
will buy.

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Yeah.
People with money, people with

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expendable.
Yeah, exactly.

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Expendable.
Yeah, disposable.

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First of all.
Vendible income.

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Forget about that.
Yeah.

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Jamie and Jamie looking.
On that widget.

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Whatever makes that widget
obviously has a friend who's a

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multi multi millionaire is
helping him out, no?

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No, no.
But that's what's annoying

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sometimes.
Sometimes like I spend 30 bucks,

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I spend 30 bucks.
And he's talking about the the

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he has my daddy and he wants to
get.

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An you, you go to you.
There's a lot of people that you

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can go to.
If you have a concept, if you

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have an idea, you have the
factory laid out to make this,

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you have exact market cost it's
and you have the whole business.

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Plan laid out and you're.
Like hey, can I get?

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Can I get but?
Kickstarter.

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Kickstarter, yeah, but, but
also, but also there's just a

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lot of people with money that
you can do that people go go to

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open a credit card and do that.
That's what I'm saying.

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Either they have a best friend
or they themselves have money.

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Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
This is the thing, the best

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friend, that conspiracy Evans.
Joe, who's 300 grand in debt, he

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he has to have a friend or do
connections or else he's not

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building.
That, yeah, of course haven't

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because everyone has ideas known
as money.

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Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.
That's they always changing.

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Everyone comes to us like we
have this idea and we're like,

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OK, it's maybe worth 1% of
everything, your idea because

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you're not going to do anything
to fulfill.

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No, it's not 1% of everything
dude.

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It's probably it's close to 50.
You hear what I'm saying though,

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Like it's until you actually put
it into fruition, it means it's,

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it's price.
It's it's, it's worth nothing.

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Yeah, it's.
Worth nothing?

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Your idea is worth nothing.
What do you think?

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Your idea is literally
valueless.

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No, it's not, dude.
I don't believe that dude.

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Until you put it out in front of
you.

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Yeah, I think I actually I'm,
I'm a big.

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You close, Harry.
It's value because you're using

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knowledge in your.
I love hobbies.

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I love hobbies.
I have a ton of them but and I

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do appreciate them.
I think most people could

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appreciate a hobby, but a lot of
people something just isn't

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worth anything until money Until
like it either makes money or

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it's the gift of validate.
I can't.

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When you said that I was
literally thinking about this

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today that I really want I I
want hobbies.

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I really want one.
Like I want a hobby, but then

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I'm like I want a hobby that
makes money.

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Yeah.
I don't think that way now.

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You I can't see myself doing a
hobby that just.

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Doesn't what does that mean?
You can you, you don't like you

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like building things.
You could do like like build

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things around your house or fix
things up around your house and

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like that's a hobby.
Like that's considered a hobby.

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Money on other guys.
I mean, I guess so.

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And you can walk away feeling
proud of yourself.

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But.
They're.

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Handyman.
Yeah, I just need to elaborate.

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No, but that is a hobby.
I don't know.

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It's like, listen as a drone,
we're all like trying to be

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what?
I don't know that I have time

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for as many hobbies, but like,
growing up, dude, you got

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hobbies man, and you have time
for sure.

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So bullshit.
We have tons of hobbies.

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I had up.
Maybe I do have hobbies, I just

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don't know it probably.
For sure dude, hang out with

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your friends is a hobby.
Do you have, you know, a few

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people actually hang out with
their friends more than once a

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week?
By the.

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Way it's so scary the world.
We hang out every like couple of

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days.
People don't.

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People go weeks without seeing.
Other human beings, dude.

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Because she's home the whole
time.

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We're literally on our way to my
kids color war thing today and

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my phone is just Ding Ding yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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Going.
On she's like, how many friends?

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You have to say 4 delinquent
friends.

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They're all just texting.
You know, it's great.

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He plays.
He plays Pacey's song about

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Kiki's mom.
I didn't.

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Hear it yet?
You didn't hear it.

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It's amazing.
It's amazing.

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Wait, is it So for context, we
have a group chat and we're

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running, Oh, is this you're
running Jokes, the song itself

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about Kiwi's mom?
It's always, it's always about

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anyone's mom but Kiwi's mom in
particular.

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And so Casey puts it in AI.
Does it say my name in the song?

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Yeah, it does, dude.
Dude, the lyrics.

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Do you listen to the one about
Queen?

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His.
Mom's house with Shadow.

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Listen.
She.

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Says she's.
Fine, she's lonely.

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Dude, it sounds phenomenal.
The lyrics are great.

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Dude, I can't write like that.
Oh my.

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God, OK, that's enough dude.
Oh man.

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What do you what do you use to
make those songs?

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It's not.
So I I put more time into it,

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but now I just send like how do
you pay for AI, right?

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Two different but this one,
though not this. 1/2.

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Different one I have AI know
somebody spends like 99 a month.

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The others 80. 9. 95.
No, I know, I know someone who

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does, who does He has he's up to
like $250 without without VO3,

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not VO3, which is like 500 a
month or two video.

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He's been 250 a month for like
different things because he's

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just tricky for what's he paying
for?

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Well, what do they give you when
you pay?

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Versus like he thinks like a
video integrating one, one that

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automatically will put the video
together and post it at the same

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time.
Then he goes on chatting with

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you.
Like find out.

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So how can you?
Automate social media I would

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love.
By the way, I would.

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Pay that amount per month to
automate my social media too I

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feel like.
So something right, because the,

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I hope that no, it's true.
I, I enjoy doing it.

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Like, I enjoy putting the video
together and I hate it, dude.

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It's $0.00.
So I hate it.

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Dude.
I, I can't do it.

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Like really.
I, I not only do I consider

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myself useless in that capacity,
yeah, but I, I don't like, I

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actively like, I won't be able
to bring myself to even allocate

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the time to do it.
Yeah, I mean, AI is definitely,

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it's a form of creativity, by
the way.

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It's not your form of
creativity, is it equalizes

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everything like Opportunity
Index was always, by the way,

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it's a very conservative, very
like fiscally amazing like

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concept.
Yeah.

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Like it's democratized
information.

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Oh my gosh, it's and then
synthesize it and spits it out.

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And then now we all have
synthesized, synthesized

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information.
Who's going to like do the next

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step, which is to put it all
together.

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And obviously Jews have always
been good at that.

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By the way, Jews, it's not Jews.
You ever watched always Sun in

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Philadelphia?
That one of the earlier episodes

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was great.
Of course, it was about like,

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because this the landlord next
door was the landlord next door

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was Jewish.
And they were like the that

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Jewish guy, like, whoa, the Jew.
So what can you can?

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You can't say the Jewish guy,
but you can't say that Jew with

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like a hard hard J.
Oh, that's yeah, you can't.

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Say a soft J is fine.
You can't.

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You can say he's Jewish.
You can't say he's.

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The Jew, yeah, you could say
like, like, yeah, you can't go

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like the Jew, but you can be
like, you know, the Jewish guy

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next door.
Damn.

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Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
I mean, the truth is I don't

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give a shit about any of that
stuff anyway.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was at a brewery one time and

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someone made a comment about I
forgot what it was.

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It's going to be with money and
me being Jewish because we're

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going to keep it there.
And I was, like, had a good one

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then, like, I was like,
literally like, yeah, yeah,

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nice.
And then he's OK.

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And then, like, he got up and
left after a couple minutes and.

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Oh, no.
And then the bartender at the

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brewery is like, hey, man, like,
that's not cool, man.

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Oh, he's like, hey, man, she
said that to him.

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And she was like, hey, man,
that's not cool.

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And I was like, no, it's fine.
Like, that doesn't bother me.

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But like, I never heard anyone,
like, stand up to like, yeah, a

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Jewish joke before.
Dude, I kind of feels dumb.

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I don't think I was an idiot.
Yeah, no, I'm an idiot.

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I'm sure there's people that,
yeah, I feel good about that.

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Yeah, people would feel, I feel.
Good that she wants to defend

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me.
What's your name?

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Hi, I'm Sarah Rubenstein.
Also also in America, I feel

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like because things are good in
America, I don't I don't think

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most people will feel much at
least in Florida.

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I don't know you don't feel much
anti-Semitism on the day, not

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even if it was weird.
If someone like stands up to

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you, like I lost like one, one
time twice, if two or three

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times, but like 2, two of them
are like just bad really like

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weird jokes, like one person.
The sauna was just like making

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weird jokes and and she didn't
get what she was doing in the

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sauna.
Yeah, she was like in the

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because it's a it's a go at
sauna at University of Miami.

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But she was just like making
jokes.

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It wasn't, it wasn't like a it
wasn't like it was just like a

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Holocaust joke that it was like,
it was, Yeah, it was what?

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It was someone else.
It was an oven joke because you

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guys were the sauna.
Yeah, it had to be.

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No.
And I like.

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I chuckled, and like I don't
have been used in the oven.

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Since the since.
He felt weird about it after and

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I was like, it's it's fine.
Like it's not a big deal, but

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but it's weird when they feel
weird and it's someone else.

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I was at, I was at a clinic on
campus also, and the room next

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door is joke with an Asian dude
at the table.

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You'd feel a little weird about
it.

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Yeah.
So I had no problem with feeling

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weird, but I felt weird because
it's like, listen, I mean, I'm,

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I'm good.
Like, don't worry about me.

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Yeah.
Like, I'm, I'm good, I'm

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healthy.
I feel good.

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Like I know that you don't.
I know that you.

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Don't meet any kind of blog.
Yeah, you don't hate Jews

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vegetriolically, I.
Was I'm past the house on

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Harding on the way back from my
meal last weekend.

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So Nazi flag.
No, I hear these people from the

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porch.
I overheard them.

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I I didn't take it bad, but I
over here like, oh, those are

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the they're those people again
with the skull caps.

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Whoa, yeah.
By the way, but those people

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have been, by the way, to be
fair, those people have been

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living in South Florida, in
Hollywood for 50 years.

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They've bought their house for
$12,000 and, and they've, and

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they've, and they've, this is
the first, the first five years

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of their lives you've ever seen.
Jude 100%.

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It's 100%.
It's not necessarily if there's

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another.
No, not at all.

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No.
If you saw, if dude, remember

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the first time you saw an Amish
person?

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No, I remember I was like at
like 1.

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I was somewhere on Niagara
Falls, I think, and I was in the

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one.
I was thinking there, dude.

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And at the minute, yeah, I say
that's my brother.

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I'm like, dude, look, there's
like how many people here, how

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they got there?
They're here like whatever.

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They don't travel, they don't
take college.

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I thought about.
That.

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Rumspringer No, So I looked it
up.

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Rumspring They hate when people
do that because it's like when

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you're off, right?
Yeah.

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Hate when people.
When if you decide never to come

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back, you can never come back
ever again a little bit.

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Shunned but I'm saying they they
hate like just.

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Have to come back here.
News aren't so different.

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That was funny, yeah.
Reputation's tough to think.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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But they there was a great
interview where someone's like,

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by the way, Rumspringer is like,
not that it's like the way

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we've.
Because I grew up the same thing

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Rumspringer was like, is it
you're off?

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No, I thought that's the way it
was.

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You know, like I watched an
interview.

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It's like you don't like people
say like Hanukkah is about like,

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lights and peace and love and
happiness and you're like, bro,

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00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,840
there's like, it's not just like
some token holiday.

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There's like, it's not their
biggest holiday.

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Yeah.
So they're like Rumspring is

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like, it's like more.
It's not just like some time

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off.
It's like more.

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But there's a purpose here.
It's a good journey.

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Yeah, dude, let's go, man.
That's what I got the champion

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00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,480
here for.
By the way, if you ever.

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Yeah, Orthodox Amish people
think about Rome.

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You guys can keep going, by the
way.

439
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Yeah, I mean, I'm enjoying
listening.

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To you talk to yourself.
What is it saying?

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Yeah.
So look, so traditional

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conservative Amish like the
Schwartz and Troopers generally

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00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,320
see Rumspringer not as a wild
free for all, but as a time of

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decision making and accountable.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
A serious and spiritually

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significant period during which
a young person chooses.

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They want to commit to the
auditors.

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All right, actually, actually,
I'm going to totally agree with

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you.
That's just that sounds like

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they're going to go to the club.
That means, like, going on club

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and decide.
Yeah, but you're worried about

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the sense that there's more
intentionality behind it.

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Yeah.
But like, imagine, imagine Jews.

454
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,360
Imagine.
Imagine going up instead of your

455
00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:49,320
urine, Israel you, which is
pretty much that, I guess,

456
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,640
right.
But imagine instead of you're in

457
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,800
Israel, you had a year where
like part of Judaism was like,

458
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,640
yeah, it was like, whatever you
want.

459
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,360
Yeah, just stitching.
Technically you could like,

460
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,560
bring her off you asshole.
No Shabbos, no nothing, you

461
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,600
mean?
No, nothing dude.

462
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,560
Whatever you want.
For a year, then you decide

463
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,880
like, is this life you want to
commit to or is this to to

464
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,680
Katie's point, I would also
categorize that just as

465
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,760
casually.
Like I thought when I listened

466
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,360
to anybody, I thought it was
this.

467
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,280
It sounds like a.
That's about it.

468
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,680
It's like, yeah, but, but I
think that if you imagine if

469
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,360
you're teaching.
Imagine in a family.

470
00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:24,480
Structure, right?
Imagine like you're you're a.

471
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,040
Kid, imagine you're the second
or third in your.

472
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,640
Family or you're the oldest
right you're the first born and

473
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,240
like you're growing up a certain
way it can hire life and like

474
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,320
and then you turn 17 and you can
like live by your and then

475
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,160
you're like you got a year where
like you could do whatever you

476
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,240
want and like you know that your
siblings are looking up at you

477
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,120
and like watching like curious
like what do you guys do?

478
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,640
You're going out into the world
when you have it, dude, imagine

479
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,400
like just stupid kosher things,
right, like imagine for you, you

480
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,080
have to keep kosher right.
You go to yeah and it was a

481
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,240
partier and then you siblings
yeah exactly.

482
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,280
Your siblings are like what was
it like?

483
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,040
Is it worth it?
Should I you know, like is it is

484
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,040
it like is it cool?
What should I do is should I

485
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,560
should I do that or that that's
really it's got to be a bigger

486
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,520
part of the culture than Josh
job Was that your like dude,

487
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,920
yeah, it wasn't that lucky.
Hey.

488
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,680
Could you look up what?
What did the Amish say about leg

489
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,600
rubbing you?
Have the percentage of people

490
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,680
who stay away or versus what?
What percentage of rum

491
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,560
springers?
They're still in the last area.

492
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,280
What percentage of of rum
springers?

493
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,080
I'm going to.
Do conservative because again, I

494
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,360
got that's.
The question.

495
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,920
Amish what people stay, stay
after rums.

496
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,120
It's got to be high.
Like they're so community like

497
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,120
we're still very high.
You imagine if someone's like,

498
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,240
do you want to leave the Jewish
community or stay?

499
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,040
You'd be like, fuck that.
I'm like I.

500
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,880
Would say most of them go back
to their families.

501
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,920
That's what I'm saying.
I agree.

502
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,800
Let's see.
That's interesting.

503
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,800
Yeah, vast majority, 85 to
95100%.

504
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,960
Yeah, dude, it makes sense.
By the way, makes.

505
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,440
Sense in that context of the way
you just put it makes sense,

506
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,320
dude, because you're growing up
a certain way.

507
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,720
If you just presented it like,
oh, you're 17, you can do

508
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,160
whatever you want.
I guess to to what what

509
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,560
Chatterby says is I guess
besides like strong family and

510
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,200
communities, which is like a
voluntary thing they're saying.

511
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,760
There's also like like negative
and negative incentives.

512
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,840
You don't want to run into like
limited, like clear

513
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,680
consequences, losing daily
contact, friends, meaning your

514
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,920
meaning and structure system
just collapses.

515
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,640
Like I guess it is a little.
Hard to get a shit update.

516
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,480
It makes it hard, you know,
you'd be like so would you shit

517
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,440
update is oh, but setup dating.
I'm curious what the liberal

518
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,000
Amish people what what is a
liberal Amish philosophy?

519
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,880
So is it they're like the beat.
They're called Beachy Amish.

520
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,600
No way.
Beachy Amish.

521
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,680
Dude, that's crazy.
They're exactly like juice.

522
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,720
It's exactly the same thing.
They have their own language.

523
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,560
And then like you'll have like
old order Amish is in between

524
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,600
Schwartz and Trooper and Beachy
and the old Schwartz and Trooper

525
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,160
is like, oh, Schwartz and
Trooper is like, like all the

526
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,040
way.
OK, got you.

527
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,400
You know, they're they're
hardcore.

528
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,720
What is it?
Where did Amish start?

529
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,400
Wasn't it Joseph Smith in like
1700s?

530
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,080
It started the 1700s.
Yeah.

531
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,640
Well, that's when, I mean, there
was like, this technology's

532
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,880
chill.
Let's let's stay here.

533
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,000
Let's.
This is great.

534
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,160
Can't imagine other than this
being while we're making AI

535
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,480
songs on Kiwi's mom.
Do you think we're sitting here

536
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,640
like?
How it went down, Yeah, yeah.

537
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,160
But no, but the old order,
they're like the old orders,

538
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,440
like our wheels don't have
rubber on them.

539
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,520
They're just like the window.
The the windows are like a cloth

540
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,160
instead of like the question is
why they choose in that in that

541
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,400
particular case is why do they
choose to live in like

542
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,000
Pennsylvania and Ohio instead of
like, I don't know.

543
00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:01,360
Yeah, but Jews go do use
electricity one day a week, not

544
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:02,960
their farmland.
A lot of.

545
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:04,480
Jews are in New York is of Ellis
Island.

546
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,480
Well, that's what I mean.
I'm saying there why are why are

547
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,920
why are predominantly Asian
Americans on the West Coast?

548
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,840
Because they can't because they
flew over to that.

549
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,720
And so Amish are predominantly
in the in Ohio and.

550
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,600
Pennsylvania.
Because of, I guess, farmland.

551
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,720
I don't know.
That's a good question.

552
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,880
Well, I don't have all the
answers.

553
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,360
I don't know.
Yeah, Chad, you had it all out

554
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:22,680
of thought.
Dude.

555
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:25,120
Dude, it's so funny.
Because liberal Amish, it's

556
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,400
different.
It's 60 to 80% of youth will

557
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,760
stay so it's a little lower any
or whatever 60 to 80.

558
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,360
Wait, but what's the what would
be the difference between

559
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:38,160
someone that's liberal
automation as opposed to not no,

560
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,680
what's the difference between I
know, but like I'd say so like

561
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,320
let's say if you're you say if
you're orthodox, you're probably

562
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,040
not driving on Chavez, right.
Yeah, certainly not driving on

563
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,440
Chavez.
And does that mean, like, if

564
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,840
you're a liberal Amish, like
you're driving a car, but you're

565
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,000
still going to like, yeah, I
think some of them are really

566
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,040
like, dude, it's so funny.
You'll have, you know, the

567
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,120
Sarasota floor.
I've been going there, you know,

568
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,000
on vacation my entire
upbringing.

569
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,920
Yeah.
Dude, you never went to

570
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,680
corporate ladder before.
Like, I've never batted you

571
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,680
Amish community there.
Oh, or corporate ladder.

572
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,120
It's a brewery.
It's an Amish community in

573
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:08,880
Sarasota, yeah.
Oh, that makes sense.

574
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:13,280
Very similar to like Miami Jews.
It's like in if you're in the

575
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,680
Sarasota Amish community.
I don't want to over generalize.

576
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,320
If this blows up, obviously I'm
going to get a bunch of hate

577
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,800
mail people I don't know
anything about.

578
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,680
All they have is mail.
Yeah, I'll get you invited.

579
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:32,680
I was going to look at Harry
Potter, get the letters in from

580
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,480
the dove.
Yeah.

581
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,720
No, I watched this is I watched
like 1 documentary.

582
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,480
Oh my God, Sarasota.
What about the the HBO show

583
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,640
about the Mormons is that guy
that has like the eight wives

584
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,960
and they all live in different
houses and it's about the drama

585
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,440
behind them?
Good idea dude.

586
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,720
Yeah, let's do it.
But wait, the last thing is is

587
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,240
because I thought it was so
funny.

588
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,920
You know how like Amish can't
use scooters.

589
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,800
They can't use like motorized
stuff on shops, right.

590
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,280
Like they'll use.
Wait, is a scooter considered

591
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,640
motorized?
Yeah, So.

592
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,160
So yeah, they.
You can't.

593
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,160
Yeah, you.
You could.

594
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,000
Or cannot.
You can't.

595
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,280
You can't use electricity.
A scooter's not necessarily like

596
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,920
a moped.
A moped like for for some hand

597
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,120
that's like, yeah, like an older
guy.

598
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,480
Then we can't get to the shul,
you know, so.

599
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,800
Oh, so in Sarasota, you know
you're not, No, you're not in

600
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,480
Pennsylvania.
You know, whatever they'll like,

601
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,360
there's.
Florida dude in.

602
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,280
Florida wait, like you know how
like Jews use scooters down

603
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,640
here, but if you live in New
York, like you'll never see a

604
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,920
single.
It's the same type of thing.

605
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Yeah, it's like, whatever.
Wow, that's interesting.

606
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,440
It's sunny and culturally, by
the way, that makes me even less

607
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,920
confident in religion to hear
that like like everyone, just

608
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,640
everyone just adjust to the.
Human.

609
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,440
That's it.
No, I just think.

610
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,760
I think they move somewhere.
I see it different and they

611
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,240
change.
No, but I think I see it

612
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,840
different.
I see that a lot of he wants

613
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,680
that shot.
I.

614
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Was trying to make that sadly
put the stock glass back down

615
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,560
anyways for the next time.
Just sit there.

616
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,600
Oh, there.
Fuck you guys.

617
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,520
Oh God.
Well dude, I'm not a lunatic,

618
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,680
man.
I'm almost 30.

619
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,680
I'm going to stick this good
tequila.

620
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,360
I'm going to take a 30.
You're talking you 30 for

621
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,200
people?
Oh yeah, yeah dude, your

622
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:32,400
birthday was like 6 months ago.
No but but but I see what I.

623
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,360
There's a difference between
shooting and sipping.

624
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,520
In terms of impact on your body,
no.

625
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320
You know, he's just, no, he's
just doing it for no reason.

626
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,120
I actually like this tequila
dude and just like I want to

627
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,920
like.
Enjoy maybe?

628
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,440
Shooting's worse.
It's like a whole.

629
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,600
It's like all of it at once.
Your liver can't take it.

630
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,120
Your liver cane dude.
That was crazy, dude.

631
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,840
What's up with that dude?
Also it made me he's so happy

632
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,640
they wanted to fight Rogue.
So sick, I know.

633
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,680
Sick.
I kept up with that for a while.

634
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,240
Did you?
What's the process of keeping up

635
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,240
with that like?
Is that like?

636
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,000
Following the social media.
Like, see what he recently

637
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,720
posted.
It goes from like high end

638
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,760
videos to like a vlog to like
every two months he posts like a

639
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,480
more emaciated, emaciated, yeah,
emaciated version of himself.

640
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,320
I think you could say both and
you could probably sound

641
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,200
properly getting away with it.
Yeah, guys like TV there when?

642
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:26,560
There's what's going on.
You look, you're looking big

643
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,080
these days.
You keep up with the Liver King.

644
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,000
You want you want a little test?
No, he's talking.

645
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,760
He's saying you're looking
ripped.

646
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,440
Sandwich.
You you he's saying you're

647
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,280
looking ripped.
You look like Jon Jones.

648
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,200
Yeah.
You look like Jon Jones.

649
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,480
Jon Jones.
Look, he looks like Jon Jones

650
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,240
is.
Yeah.

651
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,120
I want to hear what?
Your head.

652
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,280
I I.
Didn't hear that there's

653
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,120
sentence.
I don't know.

654
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,480
OK.
Yeah.

655
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,400
You guys talk.
You think he's going to fight on

656
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,040
the White House?
No.

657
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,400
No.
Who's fighting at the White

658
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,600
House, Dude?
Kitty.

659
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,520
Tom Aspinall.
Tom No, he's not.

660
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,120
Dude.
You need American, Yeah.

661
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,760
Then you're like, you need
Americans.

662
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,200
You need Americans who are
American fighters like Michael

663
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Chandler fucking.
Sucks.

664
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,200
No, he hates Trump.
Chandler.

665
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,600
Who's the guy that's a Nazi?
Oh, Bryce Mitchell, dude.

666
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,080
Mitchell.
Mitchell.

667
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,440
That guy's a nut job, dude.
That guy's wild.

668
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,840
Do you hear today there's a
reporter like asked him a

669
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,880
question with like an accident.
He thought they were speaking

670
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,640
Arabic, so he responded in
Arabic and they were like.

671
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,320
What It's going to be sugar,
Sean.

672
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,320
He'll be there.
Sugar.

673
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,400
Sean dude, dude, it's so fun.
By the way, by then he'll be on

674
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,440
a three-game losing he fight
Little St.

675
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,880
Roundtree.
Oh, I'd love Roundtree.

676
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,720
Dude.
He if he he's fighting Uri

677
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,720
night.
Holland, Holland.

678
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800
I would love Kevin Holland.
Kevin Holland.

679
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,600
Roundtree.
Roundtree.

680
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,520
Is it Roundtree fighting like a
chair?

681
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,000
Then you got.
Oh, you're putting together a

682
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,440
roster?
I'm putting together a roster.

683
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,400
We need the American fighters.
That's why you need American

684
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,320
fighters.
Who's the American middle

685
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,720
weight?
All the great middle weights are

686
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,440
from other countries.
Michael Chef.

687
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,800
He's American, no?
That case, like the opposite.

688
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,520
You're not Pakistan.
Do you watch Homeland?

689
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,520
No, not in the backs.
Do you watch Homeland?

690
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,760
Of course, dude.
Fucking what's happening in the

691
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,520
world right now, dude.
Good.

692
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,760
This.
Dude, Israel they were talking

693
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,000
about.
Do it, Israel Borrowings.

694
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,640
When it came out, that's what
was happening in the.

695
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,040
World Israel's borrowing bunker
Buster bombs from America to

696
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,240
bomb Iran.
Yeah.

697
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,080
And America was like, why should
we give this to you?

698
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,160
I remember that.
Dude, I was like, what am I

699
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,240
watching this show?
Is this show's out of control?

700
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,800
Dude.
What I.

701
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,800
Love salt.
You know, you told me.

702
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Yeah.
I think we're cooking.

703
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,920
I think we we're good.
Yeah, I think we're cruising.

704
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,840
We're thinking.
We hit the zone.

705
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,000
Yeah, finally.
There's always a warm up, warm

706
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
up phase for the podcast.
There's always a warm up.

707
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,800
They got to easy.
They got to shrug your

708
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,480
shoulders.
Yeah, dude, I did.

709
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,440
I've done a couple of podcasts
with.

710
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,600
You've done a ton of podcasts
like that.

711
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,920
Yeah, sick couple.
I've done a couple in particular

712
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,720
where I'm sitting with someone
and they haven't done a podcast

713
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,320
before and the conversation's
been so much fun that like,

714
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,160
they'll forget that we're
recording Holloway.

715
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,200
Max American.
Max Holloway, OH.

716
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Shit, he's definitely going to
fight the White House lawn dude.

717
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,000
Dude, he's got to fight to Poria
again on the White House lawn.

718
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,600
That would be dude, he's going
to, he's going to fight to

719
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,520
Poria.
They're both going to have

720
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,200
another 10 lbs on them because
they both fought.

721
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,760
They both fought featherweight.
He's an American.

722
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Justin Gagee OK, so here's
what's happening next,

723
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,040
apparently.
Right, Ronda?

724
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,440
Rousey.
Rondo Rousey Ohh.

725
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,640
Shit is she?
Did she?

726
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,120
Retired back now.
She was an Entourage dude.

727
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,400
Didn't she go to WWE?
She's like 40.

728
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Yeah, she's been fighting, and
she was fighting in 2000 and

729
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,120
sticks when the Entourage movie
came out.

730
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,880
What happened her Her ground
game was basketball.

731
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,920
One person beat her.
By the way, her and Chuck

732
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,800
Liddell were like the faces of
UFC.

733
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,760
She was.
Yeah, Chuck.

734
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,640
Liddell and Coke at the UFC.
That was the funniest video

735
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,400
ever.
You see that?

736
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,400
You've done me that.
Before.

737
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,560
Chuck Liddell took too much Coke
took.

738
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,240
It too much.
Yeah.

739
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,920
So did Neil Young in the In the
Last Waltz.

740
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,160
In the video, there's a So
Scorsese directed a concert

741
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,520
video.
There's a band called The Band.

742
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,240
They're confusing, by the way.
Yeah.

743
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,400
Well, I feel you have to be a
big band, otherwise you can't

744
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,880
have like, a they were Bob
Dylan's band.

745
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,200
Whoa.
Is.

746
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:41,000
He.
Grinding his teeth.

747
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,480
Dude, that's crazy.
Dude when?

748
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,760
You get When you take too much,
you lose control of yourself.

749
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,080
Yeah, that's so terrible.
It's never did you never ever

750
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,040
ever just posted about Hunter
because honestly he's a good

751
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,640
looking.
Dude.

752
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Yeah, he doesn't have a
reputation.

753
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,440
That was crazy.
You just said that this guy has.

754
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:17,360
Do you think anyone has a single
question as to how can I be

755
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,639
honest that that actually, in my
eyes, improved his reputation?

756
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:24,400
Yeah, tell you.
How?

757
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:24,920
Yeah.
How?

758
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Because that would be in.
America.

759
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,920
No, Because people.
Some people will be like, you

760
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,280
know what he's not?
He's like a real person in front

761
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,760
of me, like talking out the like
negatives of all this drug

762
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,159
instead of just like someone
that everyone's like, dude, this

763
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,120
guy's naked like, oh, so no one
throws out the expert argument

764
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,480
with him.
Are you are you a

765
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,480
pharmacologist?
I.

766
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,760
Was asking you that. 30 years.
Healthier than alcohol, which I

767
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,560
don't know, maybe.
By the way dude, that is

768
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,560
something that someone on crack
says for.

769
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Sure, you know what?
Man.

770
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,920
Dude nothing.
Blue is way safer than alcohol.

771
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,400
I think, yeah, he said it.
I think he said it was.

772
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,040
He's crazy.
It's just like.

773
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,600
Dude, he's the president of the
United States.

774
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,080
Son, son.
By the way, he sounds just like

775
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Joe.
His mannerisms on the way he

776
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,280
talks.
Yeah, dear.

777
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520
I feel bad for Joe man and.
You know those.

778
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,240
That guy I do.
What do you I know, by the way?

779
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,960
Whoa.
Hunter's teeth.

780
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,880
They're all fake.
Yeah, crack mixtures are teeth.

781
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,800
I was.
Saying you were saying you look

782
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,560
is your is your phone.
On now too, dude.

783
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,360
What?
I shut off my thing.

784
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,560
Is it a ringer on?
Oh, it's buzzing like buzzes.

785
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,320
No, it doesn't.
Is it ring is my computer?

786
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,640
No, it's yeah, it doesn't ring
just vibrates in that computer

787
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,360
ring.
I'm sorry, dude.

788
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,360
I apologize in case I absolutely
no one.

789
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,800
So, dude, can I talk to ask you
about your social media presence

790
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,000
as a lawyer?
Your lawyer media presence.

791
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,120
Well, I mean, you could yeah, it
was it's it's I love it, dude.

792
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,000
I think it's great.
I think you make great content.

793
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,400
I it's fun to do, I know.
But do you think that you're

794
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,080
going, do you think, are you
like, do you have an idea to

795
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,600
actually build up a brand name
as a lawyer slash entertain?

796
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,600
Like not entertainer,
influencer.

797
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,320
Yeah, entertainer, us
entertainer, because there's no

798
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,680
I I just listen.
I like I enjoy legal stuff.

799
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,160
I enjoy yeah, the stories you
post are awesome.

800
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,160
No, it's like definitely a hobby
and then and then it has the net

801
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,600
benefit of just kind of being
just a good quality videos too.

802
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,680
Yeah and I like I said I enjoy
it.

803
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,360
I have a buddy of mine who does
also.

804
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,600
He also does the same thing.
He's also a lawyer.

805
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Yeah, attorney, yeah, he's a
lawyer also.

806
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,280
And we would like go back and
forth about different equipment.

807
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,640
It's just like it's, it's just
fun and it lets, it's like, it

808
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,840
shows that you're present in the
world and that you're out there

809
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,120
and, and.
I think it's.

810
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,000
I think it's.
Upfront cost, yeah, I think it's

811
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,360
really unique.
I think it's really cool.

812
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,440
I don't know if there's a ton of
other lawyers that are doing it

813
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,720
or not, but that's also what's
cool too is like we both thought

814
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:04,400
it's like, listen, there are
other lawyers putting out

815
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,880
content, but where like general
videos you have you're competing

816
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,560
with like a million people
totally in in leader in a lawyer

817
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,640
environment.
You're aging.

818
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,960
I mean, you're competing with,
let's say 1000 other people,

819
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,760
Max.
Like it's not that many other

820
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,680
people doing that.
So it's it's you've got that you

821
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,920
have a shot at actually finding
engagement.

822
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,560
Yeah, and but you had what what
what what I what I think stands

823
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,360
out to me is that I've seen a
lot of cheesy.

824
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,280
I've seen a lot of people try to
do that in a really cheesy way.

825
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,400
Yeah.
And yours comes off as engaging

826
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,240
and funny as opposed to like the
cheesy guy that's a little too

827
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,680
old team.
And I'm not that's not saying

828
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,720
that's you, that's too old team
making it because the videos are

829
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,960
good.
But like I've seen people try to

830
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,000
make videos like with medical
equipment in my industry, you

831
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,120
know, like trying to like
develop that kind of same vibe.

832
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,000
But I will.
And it looks terrible.

833
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,880
It sounds bad.
Some of it does look bad.

834
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,920
I will say even that at least
you're like, because like the

835
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,880
most important thing is telling
people on a like, I enjoy the

836
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,440
art form, but if your objective
is just to get get content out

837
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,680
so people know, you know, yeah,
this guy is a doctor and this

838
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,200
guy is, you know, ENT, ENT, then
people know.

839
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880
But I to your point, I
definitely didn't want to be

840
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,840
that guy.
I think, and I also think that

841
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,120
people would do you think, I
think that people I feel would

842
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:35,360
be hesitant to to post those
videos because it doesn't seem

843
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:43,680
professional enough at its face.
But I think that we live in a

844
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,440
world now that's a lot less
professional than it's ever

845
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,240
been.
I think that the the people that

846
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,080
are spending money now and the
people that are, you know, like

847
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,760
the world that we grew up in or
not is not a world of suits and

848
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,240
formality and formal handshake.
You dab someone up and you see,

849
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:00,160
I mean, you see them, You don't
you don't get for crisp

850
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,200
handshake like, hey, good Sir,
it's good to see you.

851
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,800
What world do you wish you lived
in, in between?

852
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,000
It's really interesting.
More.

853
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,080
Formal environment with more
social rules or one that's a

854
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:15,720
little more informal?
I really, I'm going to say the

855
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:22,840
latter if there's space for the
former to exist in it too, so.

856
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,120
I would like to live.
In like a free world where

857
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,400
people, like, go to the movies
in the pajamas, right.

858
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,560
I think it's the structure.
But like, if you also.

859
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,720
And I think there could be, I
think it'd be cool if there are

860
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,840
movie theatres where like, if
you went to them, it was known

861
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,520
to be like a nicer event and
you'd dress up for it.

862
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,840
Yeah.
You know, all bets are exactly

863
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,160
right.
So it's not like you have to do

864
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,160
one or the other.
And that's different places.

865
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,920
Yeah.
And you seem I always you always

866
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,280
seem like a very I guess
cosmopolitan or or individual,

867
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,840
like a very person that they
actually like depreciates unique

868
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,400
and and differently totally, but
I but I feel I I really believe

869
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,240
what when TV just finished
jerking off at the corner.

870
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:12,560
He's back.
How's it going?

871
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,480
Talk to the guy.
What do you say?

872
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,200
What?
Once other shit I've I've

873
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,920
whatever.
It's such a long story.

874
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,720
You want to hear it?
I'm I'm chill it soon bro.

875
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,280
It's so.
Just just know that, dude, I'm

876
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,760
saying just tell you whatever,
somebody know.

877
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,240
Just remember, there's like 10
million people that are going to

878
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:37,960
hear it.
I think organizers for drawers

879
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,600
and guy said I need one because
my drawers.

880
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,760
So you're going to hook him up?
I have about 50 organizers that

881
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,760
I can't sell in the back of my
truck right now.

882
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,880
You'll bring him.
And, and I told him I'll bring

883
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,280
him over and you can measure and
see which one fits, but I'm not

884
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,960
custom making one for you.
And you just see if one of these

885
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,320
fits in your drawer, probably
will.

886
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,880
And but the rest I told him I
want to sell to a caterer for

887
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,800
like charcuterie boards or
something like that.

888
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,200
That's it.
That's a story, but what was

889
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,000
funny?
You like laughed like that's

890
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,760
just that just sounds like your
friend wanted something and you

891
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,880
happen to be in that industry
and say give him a free one.

892
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,040
That's kind of nice dude.
Would you give me a free

893
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,520
representation?
I think it.

894
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,080
Depends.
What if you're on Epstein's

895
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:22,760
list?
I don't know.

896
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,200
What's that first thing I'll?
Measure your drawer before I get

897
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,520
rid of them.
What?

898
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,480
Do you want to measure your
drawer?

899
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,880
You it's it's W.
Oh dude, that's a great idea.

900
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,760
It's not a bad idea do.
You want.

901
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,480
To measure, Debbie bought
organizers, but Deborah.

902
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,040
Why did she buy organized?
She bought because we didn't

903
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:38,840
know the.
Drawer.

904
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,240
Yeah.
Made out of what?

905
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,200
Made out of plastic.
It's just like you can extend.

906
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,400
Oh, you got the extend there
the.

907
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,920
I'll make like.
Like no, it fits your drawer

908
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,320
exactly.
What I realized Kiwi's entire

909
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:03,680
character but in real life dude.
He's a tiger character.

910
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:10,760
No, no, I I believe you.
If you were interesting, yeah,

911
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,720
go.
Sorry.

912
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,200
My God, dude.
Dude, I think it's really

913
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:23,240
interesting that regular people
content is coming back that like

914
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,680
for for probably 20 years,
probably 20 years, everything

915
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,920
was like, there's one spy that
like saved the world now.

916
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,280
Like you see Netflix putting out
like crime series based on like

917
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,600
Yellowstone.
Like Yellowstone.

918
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,080
I'm talking about like nature
shows, creature crime.

919
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,280
Captures by.
Porn.

920
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,120
But I think that it.
I know what you mean dude.

921
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,400
I think a lot of the content.
Did you, did you watch David

922
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Attenborough?
I love David Attenborough.

923
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,640
I believe what he did.
Dude, he's like 100 dude.

924
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:04,280
He's 100 about 2-3 years ago.
What was he again?

925
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,880
David, he's the voice over for
every nature document.

926
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,400
You know, Obama did one of
those.

927
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,840
Obama.
Yeah, dude, he did a voice over

928
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,800
for nature documentary.
Well, Can you imagine what it's

929
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,880
going to be like when he gets
arrested and then just take it

930
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,920
off in Netflix?
Why?

931
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,720
Do his next.
And.

932
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:22,560
Feed.
The baby.

933
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,840
That.
Yeah.

934
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,240
Dude, he was crazy.
I had no idea.

935
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:33,560
I didn't know anything about him
while he was President Obama.

936
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,360
I didn't know anything about
what's going on in the world,

937
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,520
Dude, I was so sheltered.
Yeah, I was so sheltered.

938
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,680
I didn't know all the game.
Was my dad on the phone with his

939
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,400
friends?
I'm gonna throw up.

940
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,880
I'm nauseous and I'm like, why
Daddy?

941
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,880
Why you're like keep me
shouting.

942
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,560
You're like my.
Parents were like moving to

943
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,280
Israel.
Dude, keep.

944
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,960
Me shouting you were like 37
when you were.

945
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,720
But I was doing the math in my
head.

946
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,880
I'm like, dude, you were
definitely like I was. 17.

947
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,440
Yeah, you're an Israel.
Yeah, OK, you're an Israel.

948
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,560
Yeah, Dude, That's, dude, I I
was young enough the first time

949
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,040
I remember my parents said
they're moving Israel, waiting

950
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,960
to see who really won.
He's running, guys.

951
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,120
McCain, right?
Dude I couldn't even vote the

952
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,600
one I.
Stayed up for was.

953
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,120
Trump, Hillary, McCain.
Everyone stayed up for Trump.

954
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,760
Trump, Hillary, Dude, I was in
college, dude, my God.

955
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,400
Blackout drunk with my friends.
We we, we made a drinking game

956
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,280
out of the election where like
we had both Fox and CNN up on

957
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,280
the same every.
Time Hillary grabbed A crotch.

958
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,160
You take a, take a.
Yeah, Donald, Yeah.

959
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,760
Can you post this?
I hope so.

960
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,560
This guy, this guy alone two
company.

961
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,440
Yeah, I know.
It's good we're in the zone.

962
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,720
Odd dude. 2025 man walks over.
That's it dude.

963
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,760
Hillary's all about the strap.
Off dude I can't comment get

964
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,880
fired I'm going to get fired for
Taurus climb.

965
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,480
I got to stop there, but but
Hillary by the.

966
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,560
Way do you think people Taurus
climb?

967
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,200
Listen to your podcast.
I.

968
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,160
Know that's all my students
listen to it.

969
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,000
All right, so just edit that
out.

970
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,960
No, dude, I don't edit, man.
No, you got a keynote because

971
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,880
then it's no, no, no, dude,
we're 42 minutes in, dude.

972
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,720
If someone's that committed.
Well, in that case, yeah, goes

973
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:33,600
on a Nazi razing star rating
with that expletive waiting.

974
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,720
Oh my God, dude.
Yeah, Go, go, go.

975
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:40,080
My.
Brother-in-law was saying.

976
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,720
Did you guys do this last shot?
Yeah, me.

977
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,920
And my brother were talking
about how is New York?

978
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,640
My brother, we were talking
about how in New York,

979
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,320
everything starts at 5:00 AM So
like, by 9:00 AM, like,

980
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,640
everyone's having lunch.
Yeah.

981
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:56,640
You know, like that's how it is.
What that always happens?

982
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,560
In the West Coast, by the way.
Whatever.

983
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,160
No, in New York, like the
hustle, like.

984
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,240
That's but the West Coast.
They're all starting East Coast

985
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,680
time a lot of times.
Whatever, all I know is like.

986
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,120
Do you think the West Coast is
you're?

987
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:11,120
They're not better than us.
There's so much better than us.

988
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,760
Their weather.
Wait, hang on.

989
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,600
So he's like everyone,
Everyone's like, everyone's

990
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,640
hustling, you know, like getting
there before, like the day.

991
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,960
It's like 9:00 lunch.
And then I just said it.

992
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,680
I was like, dude, people won't
crash a plane into a building

993
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,880
before 9:00 AM.
You said that dude.

994
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,840
Dude, that good?
For you, man, we got the nun.

995
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,240
Lugging joke and not being a
comedian, you're was crying on

996
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,360
the floor.
I was like, I was like, in New

997
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,400
York today, you don't even cross
into a building before.

998
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,400
Oh my God, there's some jokes
that are so good.

999
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,600
Very, very funny.
No the.

1000
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,120
Statues.
Laugh out loud, but like, you

1001
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,080
just feel wrong.
Yeah.

1002
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,760
You know what it is, by the way?
It's.

1003
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,920
I'll tell you what it is.
It's the structure that that's

1004
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,920
also funny about it.
There's a yeah, Samuel said it

1005
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,040
so well.
He's like this joke, He goes,

1006
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:02,720
this joke is going to lose you
guys, but structurally it's

1007
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,560
solid.
And he put that so well because

1008
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,040
he was like, listen, the
content's going to make you go,

1009
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,600
but the build up and the way
that I've raised it and the

1010
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,200
terminology and execution is
going to be flawless.

1011
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,000
We've all heard it because I OK,
Joe gains a lot of heat because

1012
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,440
his last, his last, I love his
last special.

1013
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,400
So happened to me.
I love this.

1014
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,640
I thought I thought it wasn't up
to par, but and the early stuff

1015
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,560
was also bad, but Rocky Mountain
high album up to his most recent

1016
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,120
was so funny, dude.
And do you remember vegan cats?

1017
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,320
He has a whole bit about vegan
cats.

1018
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,960
Harvey Weinstein bit was so
funny.

1019
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,120
A female Harvey Weinstein was
hysterical to you and then you

1020
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,040
went to the show at remember
right before we got COVID, he

1021
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,200
did a live show in Miami.
You were there.

1022
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,080
I didn't go.
Are you sure?

1023
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,680
I'm positive.
I do not go.

1024
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Someone else.
I know I was.

1025
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,720
Oh, shit.
Someone else.

1026
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,160
Someone else.
He got a joke.

1027
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,000
He had such a good joke man.
So I thought.

1028
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,960
It wasn't me, yeah.
How to tell a joke?

1029
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,920
I just time to grow up.
I also had a two nights at one

1030
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,680
time and the first night he
said, you know why everyone

1031
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,240
says, well, I have a phone call
to take this.

1032
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:16,520
He's like, no one's you're not
really that busy.

1033
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,720
You know why not?
Because they're calling you,

1034
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,000
right?
No one left because it was an

1035
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,000
attack on them, like because
they're calling you.

1036
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,920
Yeah.
The second night he did the same

1037
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:26,880
joke.
But he's like, you know why

1038
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,720
they're not busy?
Because those people are

1039
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,600
important.
Like you don't need to deal with

1040
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,000
these people.
You have better stuff to do.

1041
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,640
That's so good.
Cracked up.

1042
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,640
Because then the joke.
Is done, then the joke is done.

1043
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,720
By the way, that's the
structure.

1044
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,560
So he, so that's how he went
about it.

1045
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,760
He did that at a young age and
that's how he just changed his

1046
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:44,120
whole.
Life.

1047
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,080
I bet that's also why you.
That's also how you why you,

1048
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,080
when you deal with hecklers like
you zone in on them and not the

1049
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,280
audience.
Like you don't make a joke at

1050
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,200
the audience's expense.
You make the joke at a

1051
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,280
particular person's experience
that everyone else can get

1052
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,080
behind on.
The hecklers, It's free

1053
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,960
material.
Yeah, dude, you just go on of

1054
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,800
off of them for 20 minutes.
Yeah, especially now because I

1055
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,600
think among comedians, the the
cringe thing is to like do too

1056
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,000
much crowd work, because crowd
work, according to them, it's so

1057
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,400
easy.
They say it's cheap.

1058
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,720
It's a yeah.
So it's like they go viral, you

1059
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,040
know, they're like.
Like this.

1060
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,960
I don't like too much
storytelling.

1061
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,800
There's so much personal
storytelling.

1062
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,280
Oh really?
I do like that I it's the artist

1063
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,880
kind of now.
Storytelling.

1064
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,160
Just not the whole fucking set.
Well, some observation.

1065
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,440
So Andrew shows his Yeah,
exactly.

1066
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,960
His life thing was always.
Different.

1067
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,440
That's story.
That's that's not multiple

1068
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,040
stories.
That's a whole set on that one

1069
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,240
story basically.
And that was.

1070
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:41,240
Gold.
No, but I know you're.

1071
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,240
Talking.
That was one of the best

1072
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:44,440
standard.
For sure performance I think.

1073
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:48,440
You're talking about when there
are people who do pressure, you

1074
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,880
know, 100,000.
About to say.

1075
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,000
I don't, I don't.
I have never listened.

1076
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,440
He just said funny, so they're
not.

1077
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,400
Necessarily true.
He just.

1078
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,160
But he'll.
And then he'll do a hysterical

1079
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,360
laugh.
Yeah, and he does like this.

1080
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,400
Hysterical.
He plays like this, drunk

1081
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,800
without a shirt on, like with
the yeah.

1082
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,040
I know who he is, I just
haven't.

1083
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,320
I think he's funny.
Like there's little Instagram

1084
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,880
videos and stuff like that.
There's a.

1085
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,680
Community I think he was good
with Tom Segura is good stand

1086
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,120
up.
I agree because I was going to

1087
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,080
say him that he was stand up.
I think he was pod.

1088
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,960
I I hate his stand up.
Oh, I I think it stands.

1089
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,760
I I've heard a few good bits.
I was terrible.

1090
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:27,000
No, Theo Theo von Theo terrible.
I I don't know.

1091
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,080
No, no, by the way.
It's.

1092
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,840
The Tom Vera, you know, I mean,
it's, it's interesting, but but

1093
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,400
I think it's I, I what I like
about his podcast is that when

1094
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,840
he asks very good, he asks
things that are so you know

1095
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,360
what, what people say, for
example, about a genius is, am I

1096
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,360
calling him a genius?
But he will say about a genius

1097
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,080
who says that they can explain
it to you.

1098
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:49,240
They can explain it to you.
You know, someone's a genius,

1099
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:52,720
but they can explain a difficult
concept to you as if it's really

1100
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:55,800
simple.
He's good at getting really

1101
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,920
smart people to explain things
in a really simple way because

1102
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,960
that's right and not because
he's a genius.

1103
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,720
He's no offense, dude, you know,
but you know nothing but love.

1104
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,440
But like, he's not Eric
Weinstein.

1105
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,440
Eric Weinstein, when he.
When he.

1106
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,680
When he tells a story, dude, I
love that dude, but he gives you

1107
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,760
an example.
He could give you 10 different

1108
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,560
examples that that emphasize
that exact point in 10 different

1109
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,080
topics, movies, music,
television, pop culture,

1110
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,200
history, all to and all of them
say the exact same point, which

1111
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,200
is the exact point you're trying
to explain to you right now and

1112
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:35,000
I'll like.
Ever listen to was him debating

1113
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,160
times Howard on Rogan?
Dude, amazing.

1114
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:38,560
It was the greatest pop.
I didn't listen.

1115
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,440
I heard Cliff.
I was.

1116
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,880
He It was just so nice to hear
something.

1117
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,840
He was.
So he's such a good debater, but

1118
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,600
he was so nice or something.
So, so smart too.

1119
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,480
Yeah.
Because he, because he's.

1120
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,200
Trying to defend that 1 + 1 = 3
and our questions like.

1121
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,800
You're crazy.
You know, but he also told to

1122
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,200
his face, You're looking for
attention.

1123
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,000
It's wrong what you're doing,
no?

1124
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,880
No.
No, it's not what he didn't say.

1125
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,320
I know he didn't say it like
that.

1126
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,920
The reason why it was just a
little bit because you're

1127
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,760
wasting people's time.
But your point is that he had a

1128
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,200
really good way of phrasing it
so that Terrence Howard could

1129
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,280
hear it for sure.
If he told Terrence Howard you

1130
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,160
don't know what you're talking
about, he wouldn't hear that for

1131
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,280
sure.
What he says is you're really

1132
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,880
smart.
You know how to put things

1133
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,520
together in a unique way.
Here's where you get lost,

1134
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,000
right?
And So what he's doing is he's

1135
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,360
setting him up to be willing to
hear the criticism.

1136
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,680
That, Eric, is is is.
So smart, Eric's.

1137
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,000
Rephrasing, Terrence Howard was
saying even though he knows it's

1138
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,720
bullshit he's under.
Yeah, yeah, he's showing him,

1139
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,640
understands what he's saying.
He.

1140
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Understands.
What he's saying, Yeah, yeah,

1141
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,040
dude.
It's so good.

1142
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Dude, it's so great so.
Good.

1143
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,920
Yeah, I love Eric Watson.
I think in the world of.

1144
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,440
I think I think in a.
World of like everyone's.

1145
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,960
Trying to do, everyone's trying
to play, I think.

1146
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,000
I think everyone plays a Duncan
game, not a dunk.

1147
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,200
Everyone bench here came onto
the scene and I think I think it

1148
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,360
started with him, but like this
confident, very informative,

1149
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,280
clearly very knowledgeable
person who like can't stand him.

1150
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,040
By the way.
I hate to say it, no, but but

1151
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,840
Ben Shapiro, you can't judge me.
It's not I love him.

1152
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,560
I think it happens to be I agree
with a good amount of things he

1153
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,760
says, but but what he started,
what he started was like this

1154
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,720
this like caricature of like.
And now everyone's trying to

1155
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:28,960
copy this like unapologetic,
know everything, super certain

1156
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,040
about everything.
Not willing to hear anything

1157
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,320
that you are weak on.
You just do like and it's if you

1158
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,720
look for it, it's obvious like
anytime any of these like

1159
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:41,840
deflection character.
Yeah, they just like pivot.

1160
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,160
But well, what about what?
What do you hate about America?

1161
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:48,880
And what about yeah, those like
America is the greatest country

1162
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,520
or they'll they'll be weak about
something and then just pivot to

1163
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,560
a similar but topic they're very
strong on.

1164
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,760
So they can say the one
philosopher they read on that

1165
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,280
topic.
Do you know Sinclair's?

1166
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,680
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so, listen, it's like it's

1167
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,440
on, by the way, because it's
baiting a skill.

1168
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,400
It's a skill.
It's a skill, skill set.

1169
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,600
And this guy's done it 10,000
times.

1170
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,600
Yeah.
But so do you think that

1171
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,200
Charlie?
Did.

1172
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,680
Charlie Kirk's the same way, I
think, because Charlie Kirk I

1173
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,320
think also similar in the sense
of no distributive voice going

1174
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,760
to college campuses.
No, no more than that.

1175
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,880
More than Ben.
Yeah, I think he saw the bottle

1176
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,840
and I think he said like, we can
squeeze this.

1177
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,520
And by the way, I'm not even
saying that political movements

1178
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,200
or movements in general don't
need hype character.

1179
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,320
Yeah, for sure they do.
But but if you're looking for

1180
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,520
like a nuanced, interesting,
unique point from Kirk from from

1181
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,000
Charlie Kirk, he's not the guy
that's going to give it to you,

1182
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,360
right?
He's not a philosopher.

1183
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,200
He's the he's the Dunkman.
He's the guy that dunks and gets

1184
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,840
everyone to go.
Oh, and watch here's.

1185
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,960
Your problem with Ben in that in
that he deflects any other idea

1186
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,480
coming to him besides his like
it's it's.

1187
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,480
The.
Other thing the.

1188
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,080
Other thing that he but I what I
would say.

1189
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,680
Is he?
When he was on Jubilee people,

1190
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,880
he doesn't accept their ideas,
he just says no.

1191
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,280
But when he was on Jubilee, you
know what I mean?

1192
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,760
But I would say when he was on
Jubilee, he went in front of,

1193
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,520
what's the guy's name?
The the the well known also kind

1194
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,040
of a dunk, but he's a liberal,
like similar to like Ben's.

1195
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:21,000
Oh, oh, oh, I know who you're
talking about.

1196
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,080
Probably Crowder PP No, no, no,
he's a streamer.

1197
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,960
Yeah.
Destiny.

1198
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,840
No, not Destiny's great too, but
I was thinking he's great.

1199
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,640
He's on Jubilee.
He went on and this guy started

1200
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:38,840
talking about how the Senate is
DEI OK because the Senate is 2

1201
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,880
people per state, and that that
was negotiated by the states

1202
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,320
because they were insecure about
their sizes.

1203
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,640
Cool.
Then like struggling with that

1204
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,320
and trying to formulate and then
later Ben says.

1205
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:54,120
What Senator?
2 Congressmen.

1206
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,320
Two senators per SE?
What?

1207
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,960
Yeah, there's 2 senators, 100
senators.

1208
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,600
There's 100 congressmen.
No, no.

1209
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,480
I used.
To I know this, I don't, I don't

1210
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,600
know.
I don't know this stuff.

1211
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,040
I'm not going to.
I'm not going to pay this.

1212
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,760
I don't know senators and
congressmen per SE.

1213
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,960
I'm I know this congressman per
state and 1 senator.

1214
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,400
Every state has two senators.
Congressmen are based on based

1215
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,680
on, you know, the 3/4 compromise
and population.

1216
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,800
So you think you know something,
look at that, and then you don't

1217
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,440
look, you don't know it.
Brian.

1218
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:38,040
Pink chicken.
But this.

1219
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,960
But wait.
So yeah, hello.

1220
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,560
You're talking because no, I
don't know.

1221
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,960
It's just me now.
He went to go grab some No.

1222
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,640
So the funny.
So he does the point of DEI and

1223
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,320
then bench care later says like
he was the most interesting one

1224
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,160
to talk to.
He he had an interesting point.

1225
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,520
He disagreed.
Ultimately, he acknowledged that

1226
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,760
this guy like brought up an
interesting fresh idea.

1227
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,720
He had a response, which was
that the state's negotiated it.

1228
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:06,680
But it is rare, I guess.
Yeah, by the way, that's a great

1229
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,480
call.
It's a great call, by the way,

1230
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,440
Maybe maybe Bench and all these
dudes, when I say I like him,

1231
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,960
don't like him, it's obviously
based on their public persona.

1232
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,320
And then they do.
And you know, all the videos I

1233
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,200
see, I'm sure he's a, you know,
he's based it off his public,

1234
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,640
you could say.
Voice.

1235
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,080
I don't care.
They've been.

1236
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,080
Doing these public personas we
have a problem with.

1237
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,520
He can be a nice guy, Yeah, by
the way.

1238
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,640
And and what I've always said is
that I think there's a time and

1239
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,960
place for the Duncan.
And I actually think that a

1240
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,360
certain point dunking hurts you.
And I think that, Yeah, can you?

1241
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,520
Explain what dunking is.
When you like going for when you

1242
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,800
say like America's the greatest
country in the world, then you

1243
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,760
ask a teenager to like respond
to that.

1244
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,520
And then you always have a pivot
ready and you always have

1245
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,000
something or let's say, no, it's
not, it's not that it's, it's

1246
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,840
like up so that you can like you
make a mistake that someone

1247
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,880
tries to argue with you and then
you dunk on them and.

1248
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,320
You got a job?
Yeah, Yeah.

1249
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,040
You just set it up because you
know all this.

1250
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,360
Charlie Kurt does that.
Yeah, and Ben Shapiro started by

1251
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,440
doing that where you say that
anything.

1252
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,360
So what's your problem?
And then they'd be like, my

1253
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,360
problem is that women do blah,
blah, blah.

1254
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,840
And he's like, yeah, well,
everything.

1255
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,000
You know when they're dunking,
when they respond way too

1256
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,160
quickly to that.
Yeah, that's right.

1257
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,720
Out of their mouths like.
Pouncing 100% and he's so right.

1258
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,960
Like the second they finished
like yeah, but they just.

1259
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,000
That's when you're negotiating.
That's when you're negotiating

1260
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,760
with someone and you're like
200.

1261
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,240
Like whenever the other guy's
responding way too quickly.

1262
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,520
100%.
But that makes you not, that

1263
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,200
makes you not want to deal with
that person.

1264
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,400
I actually think that's a big I
also think by the way, and also

1265
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,960
he's kind of sorry to call him
out like this flip flop.

1266
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,360
I don't think he's going to.
I think it's ridiculous that he

1267
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:55,000
flip-flopped on like, I'd say
freedom of speech stuff or like,

1268
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,760
you know, like DI stuff when it
comes to like Orthodox Jews or

1269
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,320
Israel or whatever.
Early on.

1270
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,880
He was early on when he was
talking, they did his stuff.

1271
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,280
What happened?
Nothing.

1272
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,120
Yeah.
I don't know what happened.

1273
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,600
I know, but like it almost feels
like there's been a, there's

1274
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,800
been a whoa, there's like 400
fat boys.

1275
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,880
Or is it running like probably.
What's a billion dollar company?

1276
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,880
Yeah, yeah.
Journalists work for him all

1277
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,760
over.
Yeah, I think he had to sell

1278
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,840
some of his opinions, right.
You have to sit to a certain

1279
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,760
degree of the sellout to be that
big.

1280
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,800
You can't stick on everything.
That's why I never want to

1281
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:29,960
freaking do any of that shit,
dude.

1282
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,320
Yeah, it's tough, man.
That's good.

1283
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,920
It's not.
But it's also not worth it.

1284
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,280
Like, what's it worth?
What's the ball?

1285
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,520
He says he shipped.
He says he keeps.

1286
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,560
He gets to keep 60% of his
opinions.

1287
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,400
But now and shift all that.
But now everyone's laughing at

1288
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,960
him.
True, yeah, you know, because

1289
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,360
you got stuck in you got stuck
in that devil's deal that you

1290
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,000
made to, to to sell out and, and
have and have one opinion for

1291
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,600
everything.
Yeah, yeah, you know, and that's

1292
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,800
that's that's the problem.
You can't change now It's it's

1293
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,760
too many too much online.
Yeah, yeah, I think.

1294
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,960
There's been, There's been,
there's been.

1295
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,000
Destiny is probably a great
example on the left of someone

1296
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,520
who will literally just say
whatever he thinks he does not

1297
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,800
he recently.
I mean he's crashed out mine.

1298
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,760
What happened to him?
He crashed out hard.

1299
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,560
He just started hating on
concert.

1300
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,480
He's a liberal who does like.
He does.

1301
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,160
He's got like, he's very like
logic and making an actual, he

1302
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,440
wants to formulate a good
argument.

1303
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,720
He's probably not.
Even that liberal, he's probably

1304
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,200
what he call, he's probably an
independent that just likes to

1305
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,840
say he's liberal.
Because his court stays liberal.

1306
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,000
But but he's but he's a great
example of that because his

1307
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,160
audience will always stay
relatively small.

1308
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,320
Every time he has an opportunity
to be bigger, he just like is.

1309
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,480
So I guess that he wants to keep
his opinion so badly he wants to

1310
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,120
say.
No, but you know by the way, but

1311
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,000
the difference is that.
He if.

1312
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,520
He's.
Good quality of his own

1313
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,680
opinions.
He's a Tim Dylan or Joe Rogan.

1314
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,040
Sure, if he's a moron that's
literally crashing out then he's

1315
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,480
devastating and he falls apart
and no one knows what happens to

1316
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,200
him.
You know, like.

1317
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,440
When's the last time?
Like when's the last time he was

1318
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,040
getting respectable?
Like he was going on like Lex

1319
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,160
Friedman's debate with a bunch
of really not to do that.

1320
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,480
He went online, he said, shame
on you, Lex, you piece of shit.

1321
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,720
Like for the for the most part,
no way.

1322
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,520
What do you say rate relation
with Lex Friedman did multiple

1323
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,280
things.
I love Alex amazing content with

1324
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,120
Lex.
He's actually growing.

1325
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,360
He's actually, you know,
growing.

1326
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,320
And then he goes ahead and Lex,
I think does like one interview

1327
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,960
with one of these conservatives
and like I guess doesn't hit

1328
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,080
hard enough on like against the
conservative points.

1329
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,440
And he's destiny like publicly
says about Lex, like you sell

1330
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:36,720
out you piece of shit you like.
And then Lex says publicly,

1331
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,160
like, I'm really surprised by
this.

1332
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,520
I, I really thought we were
friends.

1333
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,600
I thought this kind of
criticism, you would DM me like

1334
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,960
we'd have a conversation about
it.

1335
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,160
I don't know why you're doing
this publicly.

1336
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,320
I, I feel it's, it's disrespect.
And then they like they broke

1337
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,120
the relationship fell apart
because I, I'm good about

1338
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,120
keeping, keeping himself a
human.

1339
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,240
And it's so funny because he's
such a robot.

1340
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,840
He's like, he's like a, he's
robotic about keeping himself

1341
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,360
human.
It's crazy, but I agree with

1342
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,040
you.
Like Destiny just every, it

1343
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,080
seems every time the guy like
finds a foothold, he just wants

1344
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,800
to be fringe.
Yeah, yeah.

1345
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,960
And I kind of hear that at a
certain point.

1346
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,000
And also by the way, and I
really do think there is a human

1347
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,080
psychology thing of self
sabotage.

1348
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,680
I think that devices.
Are I think that like we take

1349
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,560
pleasure some kind of weird sick
pleasure and like knowing your

1350
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,240
side.
This guy nods along with your

1351
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,920
sabotage.
Of course, that's what advice

1352
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,400
is.
Advice is self sabotage, right?

1353
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,040
What's your advice?
It's like I'm a healthy person.

1354
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,880
What's your advice?
Your advice is always going to

1355
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,280
be drinking, smoking, women, you
know, porn, whatever that

1356
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,320
whatever it is.
But but we like everyone needs

1357
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,320
advice.
It's so weird.

1358
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,560
We need like something to direct
our self-destructive of like

1359
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,480
tendencies, tendencies into, but
like, why do we even have that?

1360
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,160
Like what would be the point?
Like what's that?

1361
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,160
Like what's the evolutionary
purpose of having a

1362
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,560
self-destructive?
You know that.

1363
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,800
We're human.
Yeah.

1364
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,160
No dude, that just limits time
being human.

1365
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:04,920
OK.
So.

1366
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,160
But that's not good.
You want you want to preserve

1367
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,240
yourself as long as possible.
No, I never said it was good and

1368
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,000
you're not consciously doing.
It dude, did you listen to

1369
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,480
figure out you're?
Going to say it all.

1370
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,080
I think you just want to, you
just want to like give in to the

1371
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,080
so you just want to give in to
the dopamine head.

1372
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,640
You just don't want to.
That's what it is.

1373
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:20,960
You don't want.
To fight it.

1374
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,640
Yeah, yeah.
Your body.

1375
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,960
You want to just do what feels
good and you don't want to fight

1376
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,760
what feels good.
And most people who do it

1377
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,320
further end up dead or.
Over.

1378
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,800
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, if you take it too far,

1379
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,880
you're, you're, that's the scary
part, right?

1380
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,920
Everyone, Yeah.
Everyone here knows someone who

1381
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:40,320
drank and drove.
And everyone here, everyone here

1382
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,920
has probably, maybe.
No, I have a lot of.

1383
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,720
I can't.
I've always been very careful.

1384
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:51,440
But I know people who who I know
I, I can't say I know people who

1385
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,640
are, who have a lot to lose, who
will, you know, very publicly

1386
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,520
just get behind the wheel of a
car.

1387
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,400
And it's, and it's, it's been a
problem for them.

1388
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:00,200
Yeah.
But you know what?

1389
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,600
They don't look at it like that.
No, no, no, definitely not in

1390
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,680
the moment.
But also I don't think there's

1391
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,000
certainly people that are
certain the twenty 30th time

1392
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,360
they've done it.
You know what sad dude, there

1393
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,400
was the UI.
Most people who do it.

1394
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,080
It's like the 200th time I've
been thinking about this for a

1395
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:23,520
while.
I I, I, I, I was hanging out

1396
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,920
with someone.
I went to an open mic like 6

1397
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,880
months ago, right?
And I was hanging out and I

1398
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:34,360
brought AJ with me and, and
after and after I and I can't

1399
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,920
smoke before I play.
I get too self-conscious.

1400
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,360
But after I play, I go outside
and I take a couple of puffs to

1401
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,000
hang out and go go back inside
and hang out and see who else is

1402
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,800
playing.
Excuse me?

1403
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:50,120
And, and there was someone
outside.

1404
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,200
There's two people outside that
I knew and I was like hanging

1405
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,960
out with them and I was talking
to them and, and I and I was

1406
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,240
smoking and I was like, Hey, you
guys want to hit.

1407
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,920
And they're like one guy was
like sure, like takes a hit and

1408
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,480
like the other and like the
person that he was with took a

1409
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:07,800
hit and the person took a hit
with like a sad enthusiasm.

1410
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:15,760
You know, like you get like
almost so whatever it is like

1411
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,560
almost like a sense of like
guilt, but like I gotta have it,

1412
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,600
you know, like, and we've
definitely had that feeling with

1413
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,120
like a beer or like a drink
where like you didn't want that

1414
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,000
drink, but like everyone else is
having a drink or like whatever

1415
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,760
is going to give like a sad
enthusiasm for your vice where

1416
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,080
like, you know, it's not good
for you.

1417
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,880
You know, you don't want it.
You just go ahead and you just

1418
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,480
like push it, you know, and like
I thought to myself, like,

1419
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,640
that's so sad.
And then, and then I I mean, I'm

1420
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,680
experiencing myself too.
No, I I listen.

1421
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,280
I think if we're, if we're
honest, most people have

1422
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,040
probably experienced it.
Most humans let themselves down

1423
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,520
at, at some point in their
lives.

1424
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,120
Yeah.
You know, no matter what

1425
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,080
capacity.
Poor Kiwi, He's crying.

1426
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,800
But you're on a serious note,
Suite.

1427
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,280
You know, but.
I thought it was interesting,

1428
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,120
like I, I, that, that, that
moment really resonated with me

1429
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,480
where like you could see the
person like wanted to smoke so

1430
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,160
badly and like felt like they,
they shouldn't and like did and

1431
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,640
like, there was like a like,
like the way that like they just

1432
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,280
took the hit.
They were like, so like, like,

1433
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,960
excited and prepared, you know?
And I was like, I don't feel

1434
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,080
good about, like, sharing in
that kind of sense, you know?

1435
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,520
Like, I was like, yeah, that
wasn't what you wanted to do.

1436
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,400
No, of course not.
I mean, I don't know if knowing

1437
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,560
is going to happen, you know?
But can't control it.

1438
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:40,920
Yeah, I wonder we would just be.
If you could be happy.

1439
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,680
You.
Said you knew, you know, call

1440
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,280
people OD.
Yeah.

1441
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,480
I don't even know deed.
I don't people that committed

1442
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,600
suicide hang out with Wow.
I know, I know, I think. 4.

1443
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,600
Or five people that committed
suicide.

1444
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,840
Whoa, that's.
A lot of people.

1445
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,720
Yeah, I did.
Whoa, yeah, I know one person

1446
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,160
who committed suicide.
Katie, did you kill him?

1447
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:15,640
Casey, do you want a truly no
dude, I'll but but like it's an

1448
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,760
American film.
There you go, man.

1449
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:19,880
I have.
It's right here.

1450
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,360
Yeah.
Oh, it's.

1451
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,040
So it's still going.
Sure.

1452
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,880
OK, I'm going to take.
Do you want to?

1453
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,640
Should I have citrus squeeze or
another watermelon?

1454
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,880
Great.
I'm not having a good time.

1455
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,200
I'm not doing it surely.
I know which one should I have.

1456
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,480
Citrus squeeze or watermelon?
Do you want the watermelon?

1457
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,600
We are doing it's.
Crazy.

1458
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:45,840
He's asking.
Me so panacea dude, what about

1459
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,520
Kiwi Kiwi's in pacing?
He's looking at his no pacing

1460
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,200
going pasting split break.
Oh, split break.

1461
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:58,640
Yeah, I wanted to ask you about
AI more.

1462
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:05,320
No.
About utilizing it about your

1463
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,920
friend that your friend that
used it for for his business and

1464
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,160
whether or not you think that's
a viable thing that's like

1465
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,880
worthwhile to do.
This is unfortunate, but this is

1466
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,000
a weird time.
I need the restroom but I he

1467
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:17,800
just.
Oh, hang on.

1468
01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:22,160
Well, I meant to.
No, we're we're back.

1469
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:23,200
Yeah.
We meant to ask what?

1470
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,479
What's how much?
What have you learned since

1471
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,960
starting?
Because this pods now you're

1472
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,359
over 100 episodes.
Over 120 probably, because I

1473
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:34,640
know that you.
Yeah.

1474
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,640
Well, we celebrated the 100th,
Yeah, but it wasn't really the

1475
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,319
100th because you had like over
100, by the way, under named

1476
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:42,359
guys.
And some of those were just you

1477
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,040
like Bill, like you were just.
Yeah, you would just do just

1478
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,000
you.
Those are.

1479
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,439
What have you learned since
talking to that many people?

1480
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,880
Because you've talked to some
interesting people.

1481
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,880
What have I learned?
It's a cool.

1482
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,040
It's a cool thing.
I've really learned that there's

1483
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,160
information to kind of back up
anything that you want to find

1484
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:08,200
and there is literally an
endless amount of information to

1485
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,640
back up people's biases to
anything that they want.

1486
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,279
Did that?
Was that depressing to see or

1487
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:15,800
feel?
Because no, it kind of had a.

1488
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,600
Feeling that it already existed.
To be you kind of knew, yeah.

1489
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,319
Everyone still everyone's
talking shit.

1490
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:22,160
Yeah, it must be.
It must be.

1491
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,040
Everyone's got info to back them
up.

1492
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,720
But yeah, confirm it.
But you know, it's actually

1493
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,880
crazy to me, though.
It's crazy to me when they're

1494
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,040
actually think opinions that
people have that really don't

1495
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,840
hold light.
And then when they still stick

1496
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,560
to them and you're like no
weight to it.

1497
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,399
It doesn't really like and, and
maybe it's to me, I've been,

1498
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,560
I've been working really, really
hard to try to be open minded

1499
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:49,640
and to really be able to like
process and and like accept even

1500
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,279
if it's uncomfortable or, or
difficult or challenging

1501
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:53,479
uncomfortable truths.
Yeah.

1502
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,880
Uncomfortable truths.
And and then when you see that

1503
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,360
people's opinions are shaped by
their inability to accept

1504
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:06,280
uncomfortable truths, that's in
your like, he just walked.

1505
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,800
In I don't even know.
Who decides what you know what

1506
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,960
at the end of the day?
It's so it's so crazy because

1507
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,280
like, you know, you say that AI
is like it's a possible to tell

1508
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,560
the difference between like
anything.

1509
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,280
It's already fucking impossible
to tell the truth between

1510
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,920
anything anyway, dude.
Well, that's not.

1511
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,800
It's not.
You're not.

1512
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,080
It'll be on a higher level, but
but to your point, same shit,

1513
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,520
same so.
My brother-in-law in Israel,

1514
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,960
he's developing an app he's
really close to like getting it

1515
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,200
done.
An app.

1516
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,160
A lot of people develop an app.
Basically.

1517
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,280
Not inventing the idea it.
Listens.

1518
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,760
The idea is worth one stupid
percent.

1519
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:42,120
Dude.
He.

1520
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:44,920
Uses AI to listen to
conversations and tell.

1521
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,480
They could tell based on what
the person is saying, whether

1522
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:50,880
they're lying.
So whoa, yeah, it's a whole.

1523
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,080
It's a context that's like the
next, the next version of the.

1524
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,240
What do you call it?
The what do you call detector?

1525
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,000
Yeah, lie detector.
He's.

1526
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,760
He's been, he's been calling
like all over the US, mainly the

1527
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,800
US.
He doesn't deal with it, but he

1528
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,160
listens.
He calls it forensic

1529
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,200
psychologist.
Psychologist.

1530
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,160
And he just talks to them, you
know, because those are the guys

1531
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,520
who could tell whether a
person's lying or not without a

1532
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,400
lie detector.
By the way, they usually can't.

1533
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,400
Whatever it is.
Pretty notoriously he's.

1534
01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:23,440
Building an app and like CEOs
can use these.

1535
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,680
Use app for board meetings, job
interviews, things like that.

1536
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:29,560
That's cool.
That is very, very.

1537
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,200
I guess what I guess what it's
probably better at than humans

1538
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,080
are is keeping track of a story
that someone's telling and then

1539
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,960
catching inconsistencies because
our memories don't tend to.

1540
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,440
End this conversation with his
app has a whole analysis drop

1541
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:46,200
down of yeah that was said.
Really, really, really.

1542
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,240
That's the.
Way you were going with it,

1543
01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:48,680
Awesome.
You get to see.

1544
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,200
You get to.
See the awesome.

1545
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,440
Logic training.
That's awesome idea.

1546
01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:54,640
Very, very.
I love that.

1547
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,080
Almost done like with the
initial like investment.

1548
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,400
Because the, the, the, the
getting fucked left and right,

1549
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:08,040
man, part of AI isn't, isn't now
because now, like frankly the

1550
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,600
only AI you see.
Because I remember like 10 years

1551
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,000
ago I was talking about AI and
like, really it was like,

1552
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:19,080
because not, I'm not like
unique, but like there were

1553
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,000
people that just knew artificial
intelligence was coming, but it

1554
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,600
wasn't to market.
So like 10 years ago I was 15

1555
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,560
and like thinking about it,
talking about it, then sending

1556
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,040
it in law school.
And then like 2 years ago it

1557
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,680
actually exploded.
Mark.

1558
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,640
Yeah.
But like before two years ago,

1559
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,720
it was no one even thought about
it.

1560
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,760
It was like if you mentioned AI
three years ago, like, oh, like

1561
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,840
what?
Like like you're not like, Oh

1562
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,360
yeah, sure.
Because three years ago, the

1563
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,120
version of AI that we were
seeing was, you know what it

1564
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,440
was?
It was imessages guessing what

1565
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:51,480
our next word is going to be.
And it was so bad at it.

1566
01:12:51,480 --> 01:12:53,640
Do you remember that?
Yeah, he was actually like, hey,

1567
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,880
new engineers.
It was coming very fast and very

1568
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:57,840
aggressively.
Yeah.

1569
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,720
But the the craziest part is
going to be when AI, because I

1570
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,600
always remember this, this thing
coming up, which is engineers

1571
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:10,440
right now are even now to this
day are surprised at how well AI

1572
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:12,200
can.
Yeah, they don't get it.

1573
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,720
They can.
They can learn.

1574
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,400
I think we're really making
consciousness.

1575
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,440
I think we are.
I don't think I I.

1576
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,440
Really don't think it's that
far.

1577
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,560
It's the top.
It's Eric Weinstein again.

1578
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,360
Eric Weinstein again.
Had a conversation with Diary of

1579
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,720
a CEO, and it literally sounds
like he was an acid the entire

1580
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,520
time.
He sounded like he was.

1581
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,840
He was speaking about, about he
was.

1582
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,080
His responses had nothing to do
with what the guy was prompting

1583
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,880
him with.
But one of the things he said is

1584
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,440
that most human beings are LLMS.
Like most of the LLMS.

1585
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:47,040
Yeah, large language models like
most of your conversations that

1586
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,600
you have with people on a
regular basis in your life could

1587
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,400
be had with ChatGPT.
Yeah, you could do a binary of,

1588
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:55,240
you know, you could just say how
you doing good Well, you know,

1589
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:56,680
how's life been?
How's the kids?

1590
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,840
Good kids are fine.
School's hard.

1591
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,840
You know like most of this stuff
does not require conscience

1592
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,680
conscious thought.
So human beings are LLM's to a

1593
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,680
certain extent.
And then when you push us to a

1594
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,520
certain point and we have a
certain amount of pressure or

1595
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,240
stimulation or flow and
conversation, we can achieve

1596
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:18,720
something that kind of exceeds
that level of LLM ship and

1597
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:24,000
that's consciousness.
Well, the the issue is, the

1598
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,520
issue is we don't know what
consciousness it is.

1599
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,240
And so the problem that you run
into is, is I've been trying to

1600
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,040
reach out to people that study
consciousness, by the way, for

1601
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,680
the podcast.
Yeah, I want to talk to them.

1602
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,280
It's I, I would love to hear
that.

1603
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,760
Because the, the biggest problem
with AI isn't when I say

1604
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,600
problem, I mean distinguishing
human from AI.

1605
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,240
Yeah.
Is that the only way we ever do

1606
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,520
it is just based off of what you
just said.

1607
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,680
We we only when I talk to you,
when I talk TV, when I talk to

1608
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,960
people, you just you know that
you're not AI because you

1609
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,840
whatever you think, look at
yourself, you think you're not

1610
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,880
and you use free will.
No.

1611
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,120
What?
But you're confident even dude,

1612
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,600
No, no, but no, no.
What was it?

1613
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,600
Because I'm talking about the
question is the fact that you

1614
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,880
the observable, you're talking
about observable universe.

1615
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,520
OK.
You don't have a choice, right?

1616
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,480
To a certain degree, yeah,
right.

1617
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,000
There are things you there are
things you don't choose.

1618
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,920
You always have the purposes of
your desire.

1619
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,680
Find out in my life, you have to
be.

1620
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,320
You have a desire to reproduce,
right?

1621
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,440
Yeah.
That's not choice.

1622
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,600
That's DNA.
That's someone wrote that into

1623
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,960
your DNA.
OK, so we have evidence that

1624
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,440
there are things that we don't
choose.

1625
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:33,640
We don't choose to have
adrenaline pumping through US

1626
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,280
and have an animalistic response
thing.

1627
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,240
Not to reproduce, though even
it's a desire to.

1628
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,800
So birth control and
contraception, but he's great.

1629
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,160
He's saying we can choose.
Yes, there's before in front of

1630
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:52,520
us we can say, yeah, of course,
that's also the same to make the

1631
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,600
same argument.
If you were not in a place where

1632
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,120
you were there to protect your
offspring, then you did not have

1633
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,600
offspring.
That's why you didn't have

1634
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,640
offspring when you were 12, even
though you're physically capable

1635
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,000
of.
There's a lot of evolutionary, a

1636
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,400
lot of evolutionary.
There's a lot.

1637
01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:08,960
There's a lot.
There's a lot you.

1638
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,080
Can't afford to have a kid.
That's the point.

1639
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,040
And they don't have a kid.
It's but it's not, it's not

1640
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,880
going against their nature.
It's in their nature to not have

1641
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,840
a kid that they can't preserve.
Correct.

1642
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,840
So it's still not a choice
they're making.

1643
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,040
I mean if free will is given to
every human being.

1644
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,240
That's that's what we say, no.
That's crazy.

1645
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,280
This is straight from God.
No, I'm sorry.

1646
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:35,160
So why it's so God?
So tell me why so?

1647
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,400
That's the that's.
What I understand the words that

1648
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:39,600
I understand, the words that we
are not.

1649
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,560
But the point is, the point is
we haven't mapped out what and

1650
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:49,040
how consciousness manifests.
And I like to believe and do

1651
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,960
believe that there is some
unique element to it.

1652
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,880
But in the observable universe,
you have to prove it.

1653
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:59,360
And right now all we can prove
is is how we see the universe.

1654
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,320
So when I'm talking to you, if a
robot, right, if an AI can do

1655
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:09,520
everything you do everything,
including programming not to

1656
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,160
sleep outside of marriage and
infidelity, including all of

1657
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,960
those things and programming.
All I can see are two versions

1658
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,600
of TV and they're and they and
they operate the same way.

1659
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,120
They operate the same way I
have.

1660
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,360
I have no way of distinguishing
the two.

1661
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,440
That's the issue.
Yeah, but that robot is not

1662
01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:31,800
thinking about how I broke my
ankle in 3rd grade and I was

1663
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,640
traumatized by that.
No, Sir, I know.

1664
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,120
But am I aware that you're
thinking?

1665
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,160
That no.
OK, so who cares?

1666
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:39,560
What You're aware, but I'm only
aware.

1667
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:41,680
Why does that?
Matter.

1668
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,920
Because what Paige is saying is
that to the observable universe,

1669
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,640
I won't have no way of knowing
that you have your own

1670
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,400
subjective worlds and you can
just made that up.

1671
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,320
OK, so I'm saying where you go
with that?

1672
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,280
Who cares?
Is that all we can measure?

1673
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:57,440
All we can measure is what we
see and experience.

1674
01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,240
And and I can't measure what you
experience.

1675
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,000
I measure what I experienced,
right?

1676
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:06,720
And and if I see an AI
experiencing life the same way

1677
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,280
and I tested, you know, the
Turing test, the Turing test is

1678
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,720
used.
The Turing test is literally

1679
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,960
sitting in front of another
human being and judging whether

1680
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,400
they're an AI and you have to
figure it out.

1681
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,880
So no way really that's what it
is.

1682
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:20,760
That's what it is.
That's the test been the whole

1683
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:21,960
time.
That's everyone says like the

1684
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,600
Turing test is.
That's the Turing test is is

1685
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,760
that's a test.
The test is, is it because we

1686
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,040
have because all we can go off
of the house?

1687
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,520
But.
Sit out of another guy on the.

1688
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,240
Street and I passed it on
certain topics so if you think

1689
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,760
about car crashes you can't tell
but right now I don't think it's

1690
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,320
passed like as like yeah if.
There's a guy beating the shit

1691
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:44,400
out of another guy on the
street.

1692
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,760
The robot is going to take the
guy who's being the shit out of

1693
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,720
the other guy and be like, whoa,
stop hitting him.

1694
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,440
What the human's going to say is
the guy who's going to beat

1695
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:54,400
enough?
Oh, that guy's that rapist from

1696
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,880
last night.
Ohh yeah OK, good.

1697
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,160
Don't stop.
By the way, but time out, time

1698
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,720
out, time out.
That's just ridiculous argument

1699
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,040
because because AI has memory
now.

1700
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:11,520
Dude, your ChatGPT remembers the
conversation and click contact

1701
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,120
with though.
Dude I understand.

1702
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,000
No, it's simple.
I can make it because I will.

1703
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,560
Take a video of something and
have that.

1704
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,640
No, no, any hypothetical.
We can just always create a

1705
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:28,920
hypothetical where a AI manifest
in its actions exactly the same

1706
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,640
as a human and then you still
have to always you always end up

1707
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,160
having to determine right, two
actions are the same, which one

1708
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,200
is human.
Now wait one second.

1709
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,960
I want to give you an olive
branch because because what I do

1710
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,280
agree with is I think Elon Musk
recently said this.

1711
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,400
We nobody but he's doing early
bro.

1712
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,320
He's been the guy that fucks
wrong.

1713
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,440
Yeah, dude, Can you imagine
that?

1714
01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:02,280
Can you imagine 50 years telling
someone, like there's someone on

1715
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:06,720
the spectrum and like we're
quoting him and like, dude, 50

1716
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,160
years ago, not 50 years from
now.

1717
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,960
Did I say 50 years ago?
Oh, you said that.

1718
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,000
Yeah.
No, but when it comes to human

1719
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,640
consciousness, we don't know.
That's why I said, you know what

1720
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:15,520
it is.
We don't know it.

1721
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:16,760
I agree.
I agree.

1722
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,000
And, and what Elon Musk's point
is, is like, if we want to

1723
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,040
continue to, to have the, the
human experience, we, we just

1724
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,520
have to upgrade our hardware so
that our, our.

1725
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,880
Our processing and our our
hardware is just can can keep

1726
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:34,760
cause consciousness software.
But yeah, but but I'm not, I

1727
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,200
don't denigrate the the human
experience.

1728
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,760
Yeah.
By the way, the idea and I don't

1729
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,000
know if it's gonna hold up.
But it's an interesting idea.

1730
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,960
That the AI conscious is gonna
match the human conscious is

1731
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,120
totally absurd to me.
That's all really.

1732
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,120
Dude, it's not at all even a
little bit scary to you.

1733
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,360
No, I.
Think it's going to be so?

1734
01:20:53,480 --> 01:20:55,320
Scare the shit out of me, dude.
I just go for a job.

1735
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,440
One of the first people to eat.
Dude, this guy's like fuck that

1736
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,080
AI is going to come along and be
like, well this guy don't come.

1737
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,960
Close to the to the way we were
created in the image of God.

1738
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,000
That's it.
I'm sorry.

1739
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,160
Like by the way, I.
And I think AI is going to be so

1740
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,880
smart and so, but it's not going
to come close.

1741
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,560
By the way, there's a lot of
people that I remember thinking

1742
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,040
this a while ago.
And then I think other people

1743
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,600
obviously come in the same room,
which is when you look at

1744
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,720
obviously the Torah and the what
it means to be human, that the

1745
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,000
Torah.
But the Torah even contemplates,

1746
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,000
albeit when we when we think
about my chef, we think about

1747
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,440
all these concepts it we do
discuss, you know, the human

1748
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:40,120
experience sort of has an
endpoint that that everyone's

1749
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,040
there's going to be more.
We say we're going to go to

1750
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,680
Olamanishama, which is really
the world of souls.

1751
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,200
So you know what that is?
Yeah, we might find a way to

1752
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:52,720
capture are consciousness, which
could be the soul and no idea

1753
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,840
what's going on we're.
Like the thing that affects the

1754
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,400
soul?
Well, I just think that we have

1755
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,480
no idea what's going on.
We have no idea what's going on.

1756
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,480
And they're synthesizing
intelligence and they're doing

1757
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:06,400
all this stuff.
And so I, I try to stay humble

1758
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,400
while also staying, you know,
saying, dude, it's crazy.

1759
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,040
And also the interesting thing
is I thought it's really

1760
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,000
consciousness.
I'm not scared at all.

1761
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,240
I'm not scared.
I'm having a beer.

1762
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,000
If I was scared, they have you
sitting here not.

1763
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,400
Going to be.
No, no, I said.

1764
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,880
I'm here.
He's having his last beer.

1765
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:38,040
No bro, I meant like I'm not
obviously not scared of you're

1766
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,560
out of control dude.
I love it.

1767
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,400
Just give you a little shot.
Yeah, yeah.

1768
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,440
Dude, I'm not, I'm not saying
I'm like scared enough that I'm

1769
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:46,560
going to like stop living.
I listen.

1770
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,680
Like you said, you got to live.
You laugh.

1771
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:50,160
What is it?
Live, laugh.

1772
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:51,680
Love.
Like, yeah, Make Love.

1773
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,040
Not.
Not love, not war.

1774
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,440
Listen, the fact that three
humans right now are sitting on

1775
01:22:56,440 --> 01:22:58,160
a table drinking, talking about
this stuff, it's amazing.

1776
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,640
It's a beautiful.
Thing, dude, we're having a good

1777
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:00,760
time.
That's what you think dude.

1778
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,520
You're all my AIS in my head.
I cannot wait to go home and

1779
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,200
listen to that Kim's mom song
again.

1780
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,560
Oh, it's so good.
By the way, I'm telling you

1781
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:13,280
Pops, no cat.
I just dude, I'm.

1782
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,800
Filling it up.
Man, no, you've been slacking

1783
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,520
it.
Yeah, dude, I've.

1784
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:19,760
You look a little blessed, a
little blushy.

1785
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,800
I'm just talking out of my huge
ass dude.

1786
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:31,440
What?
Never mind how bad.

1787
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,480
That's pretty.
Good, I get because.

1788
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,080
Dude, just don't try to box me
out before playing basketball.

1789
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,600
I we're trying to, we're trying
to I love it.

1790
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,320
I.
Yeah, like Kimi's knocking away

1791
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,240
and let's.
Just do this now.

1792
01:23:51,720 --> 01:24:01,200
I think that why dude, we're
back, dude, we had to pause

1793
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,600
because there's been a fit of
outrageous behavior.

1794
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,360
So we're going to we're going to
just simmer down a little by

1795
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:14,200
taking another shot of tequila
and pacey is chugging my Lefroy

1796
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,840
like a lunatic.
By the way, it's something you

1797
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,480
sip.
It's not something you chug.

1798
01:24:19,480 --> 01:24:21,400
You're an opitic.
I'm going to be real.

1799
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:25,320
My my dad introduced if anyone,
if any of the listeners want to

1800
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,240
get a bottle of Lafoe.
It's a great bottle, very smoky.

1801
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,280
But I had AI had a friend in
college, Michael Steinberg,

1802
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:38,520
whose friend sounds so Jewish.
He is Steinberg Steinberg.

1803
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,080
Wow, friend of the pod and
friend of the pod.

1804
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:43,520
Dude, let's go.
He's friends.

1805
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:48,000
He's like friends with the pod
and he and he lived down the

1806
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,440
down the hall from me in
college.

1807
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:52,080
And he used to be able to smell
when I'd open up a bottle of the

1808
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,320
floor again Friday night, he'd
walk into my apartment to be

1809
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,320
like, you're drinking smoke.
Yeah, 100.

1810
01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:00,600
And I'm like, that's my dad.
I say, dude, he opens the bottle

1811
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,400
like at the bar, like I walk in
and I know that such a potent,

1812
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:09,800
pungent, potent.
Just the AC for people

1813
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,280
listening.
This guy looks up like like like

1814
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:16,080
a lizard like a like a reptilian
instinct of danger.

1815
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,960
Pouring rain.
First of all.

1816
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,960
Dude, I got a good one.
I got a good one.

1817
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:25,640
If anyone knows what you look
like right now you're wearing.

1818
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,360
I got to explain the joke.
Right now you're wearing like a

1819
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,840
Nike soft polo.
Why do you look like you work at

1820
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,440
a dealership?
I've been.

1821
01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:36,320
Saying I have a red one in the
exact same way.

1822
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:38,400
Me too, by the way.
Yeah, look like he's trying to

1823
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:42,320
sell me like KV.
I've been trying to convince KV

1824
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,320
for three years to leave his
jobs and sell pickup trucks.

1825
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,920
I mean.
By the way, you would put me in

1826
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,920
a pickup truck, dude, I would
walk in.

1827
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:55,480
I would walk in like, I don't
know.

1828
01:25:55,480 --> 01:25:58,440
And he'd be like it's going to
it's going to change your life

1829
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:00,000
and you're going to walk away.
Good.

1830
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,680
You're going to you're going to
love it, dude.

1831
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,560
I would walk away.
Your shitty house would look

1832
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,680
like a mansion.
If you sound like a drug I'm

1833
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,400
telling you could sell me a
truck and a Harley at the same

1834
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,520
time bro.
Dude, I love your house.

1835
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:14,720
Man, I'm just messing you out of
you.

1836
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,520
But dude.
Oh yeah, by the way, you hit us.

1837
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:17,000
You.
You.

1838
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,520
You.
Yeah, dude.

1839
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,800
For no reason.
Oh, you didn't even have to.

1840
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,800
I knew the joke was done.
I know.

1841
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:25,520
I went deep.
Yeah.

1842
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,040
What?
Have four boys, bad kids.

1843
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,800
Have four boys, boy, and then
show me your house.

1844
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,360
Dude, I don't know how you.
I don't know how you breathe.

1845
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,080
By the way.
Dude, I I like in and out.

1846
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,320
What are you talking about?
He's not you.

1847
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,000
You've been here every other
night.

1848
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:41,800
Dude, that's how I.
Breathe.

1849
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,600
What?
He's been here every other

1850
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:43,960
night.
My.

1851
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,440
Kids.
Are in bed this by 7.

1852
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:55,080
Dude, today, this morning,
Shua's teacher canceled school

1853
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:00,080
and Rafael went to the guy.
Levy, the chiropractor.

1854
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,080
He's half an hour away.
She leaves at 10:30.

1855
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,080
Her appointment's at 11.
She's there for an hour.

1856
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,000
She goes to the supermarket on
the way back.

1857
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,760
She gets home at one.
I have Shua and Ariel at home.

1858
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:17,760
Oh my.
I did so little work and so

1859
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:22,440
little productivity between the
hours of 10:00 in the morning

1860
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,800
till 1:30 in the afternoon when
she got home.

1861
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:30,680
I did absolutely nothing, dude.
I didn't just no way because I I

1862
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,560
would get tired, but like I got
to keep up.

1863
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,480
You know, that's so true.
And I totally agree that

1864
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,360
tradition.
I mean, that's the thing, like I

1865
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,520
love working from home, but I
need, I need like 3 or 4 hours a

1866
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,880
day minimum of just like.
Opportunity to learn and.

1867
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,920
The shit all the time.
And then what do I have?

1868
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,320
You have that dude, you're out
of your house at 8:00, at 7:30

1869
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:58,760
in the morning.
It's pretty sweet that you're

1870
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,000
here right now.
That's pretty cool.

1871
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:00,960
Yeah.
Because you just want to be

1872
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:02,880
home.
He's like, just leaves, just

1873
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,200
walks out the door.
That's what I mean.

1874
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:06,520
The kids, I don't care.
I'm just kidding.

1875
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,600
But like, he's out of his house
at 7:30, comes back at 5:00,

1876
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:11,640
right?
You're home.

1877
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,200
You're home every day on five.
Trillions.

1878
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,320
There's a Coinbase update.
Coinbase, dude, are you into

1879
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:17,760
crypto?
You're crypto.

1880
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,360
You're crypto, bro.
No, are you dude?

1881
01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:22,600
I didn't realize.
Yo, whoa, you're Bitcoin, dude.

1882
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:23,840
What do you want?
Ethereum.

1883
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,480
What are you doing, bro?
I'm not into.

1884
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:30,280
Crypto, but I do have some
crypto.

1885
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,600
How much?
Crypto, do you have you put a

1886
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,480
little money inside?
No, and I tried cheese in there.

1887
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,200
Diversifying.
He's diverse.

1888
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,120
Folio.
Do you have any black kids out

1889
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,880
of your phone talking about
diversifying?

1890
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:50,280
I didn't realize we were sitting
among like, the wealthy.

1891
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,520
Dude, Dei I.
Didn't realize bro.

1892
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:56,720
I didn't realize you were rich.
I, I It all goes to my kids and

1893
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,400
I.
I know by the way I've done the

1894
01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:00,200
math.
You know that one kid?

1895
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,280
Is that make?
It doesn't mean shit goes to my.

1896
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,480
One kid is a is like a Maserati.
What's I'm saying?

1897
01:29:05,480 --> 01:29:08,040
It's every it's like you could
you could on the monthly

1898
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,880
payments of Maserati is like one
kid.

1899
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,320
I'm OK with that.
You know, like most about the

1900
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:13,920
first couple years, the kids
life, the kids.

1901
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,080
And by the way, I'm OK with
that.

1902
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,760
Obviously I came with it.
I, I, I never trade a car for a

1903
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,560
child.
I understand, but we live in a

1904
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,480
world that hates them.
I know, I know we live in a

1905
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:26,560
world.
I was actually talking about

1906
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,760
this.
We when's the last time you saw

1907
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:34,000
a woman in a movie that was
successful and confident in a

1908
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,520
mother?
I know it's.

1909
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:37,960
Was that something you saw that
don't confident what and a?

1910
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,320
Mother as a mother in a healthy
marriage, was that something you

1911
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,120
saw that in a it's always like a
broken marriage.

1912
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,560
It's a broken marriage.
A strong independent mother, a

1913
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,080
mother that chose a woman that
chose not to have kids.

1914
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:53,640
So by a woman and the and the
truth is, I was talking to a

1915
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,160
couple of my people recently
about this on on the podcast

1916
01:29:56,160 --> 01:30:03,360
also that movies and and
entertainment shape culture.

1917
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,040
They shape it.
Of course everyone loves them

1918
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:07,920
and then.
Yeah, dude, it makes a

1919
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,040
difference.
It's so true.

1920
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,800
You know what's going on.
You're embarrassed to say that

1921
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:12,600
there's you know what's going
on.

1922
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:18,000
Mothers in It's 100% if if if
someone told me if someone did

1923
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:22,160
the amount of work that Gabby
does having four kids and at

1924
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,040
their job, I'd be like you're a
hero too.

1925
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,320
So you're you're don't much
remember.

1926
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,840
TV shows you don't remember, but
you remember like the TV.

1927
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,480
Shows what do you do dude.
How old are?

1928
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:32,160
You.
It was all you.

1929
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,560
Don't remember, it was back in
the 30s.

1930
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,960
Yeah, yeah, like.
Every show was a married couple

1931
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,360
of kids, a happy family.
Did you see Bill Maher's about

1932
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:42,280
Brady?
Bunch, Yeah.

1933
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,640
Oh, no, Brady Bunch, they were.
No, No 2, two different.

1934
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:46,480
Wow.
Still family.

1935
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:47,480
Whatever.
Still family.

1936
01:30:47,480 --> 01:30:48,040
Yeah.
Why?

1937
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:54,600
I ought to remember we joked
about no, that's not Family Guy.

1938
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,200
Why IOTA?
No, I know, but family.

1939
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,800
Guy.
I think the guy get the shit out

1940
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:02,520
of.
That, yeah.

1941
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,840
Pretty much.
He's like, like like like she

1942
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,040
beats like a snarky comment.
He's like you bitch.

1943
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,760
It's so good because that's
like, if it was real life,

1944
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,000
that's for sure would have
happened.

1945
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:19,960
That's what.
Would happen.

1946
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,800
That's terrible about it.
It's so funny.

1947
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,120
Dude, it's crazy.
Japan.

1948
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:26,280
That's what's going on in Japan.
What?

1949
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,320
Do you mean the housekeeper is
making snarky comment to the

1950
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,800
homeowner?
Get in the.

1951
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:42,440
Ditch.
Oh my God, what were you saying?

1952
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,880
Dude, the 50s went hard, man.
Do you ever hear Shane Gillis is

1953
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,200
the best bit about George
Washington I've ever heard.

1954
01:31:53,480 --> 01:31:55,480
We all grew up knowing this
shit.

1955
01:31:55,480 --> 01:31:58,680
We all knew like George
Washington went hard, then Shane

1956
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,360
Gillis.
It's about structuring a bit the

1957
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:03,600
way he's like don't make me love
him.

1958
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,800
Don't make me love George
Washington and then see some

1959
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,960
crazy shit like his teeth and
then I have to my favorite

1960
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,800
vision, my favorite visual is
and then then they they they

1961
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:21,480
shove you out like a hot party.
You're blinking.

1962
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:26,680
You're blinking, son.
Like what the?

1963
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,000
That was the best one.
I was such a good thing, the

1964
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,880
woman that was George
Washington's house.

1965
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:48,720
He brings his guys on a.
Boat in the dead of wind and

1966
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:53,600
he's like, come on here.
We're going to kill him, by the

1967
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:54,920
way.
I started thinking about that a

1968
01:32:54,920 --> 01:33:02,000
lot.
Oh.

1969
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,240
Man did.
Actually see that?

1970
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:05,280
That's what actually.
Happened.

1971
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:10,440
Yeah, things are crazy.
I know angry like 6 three.

1972
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,400
No one wants any part of it.
I feel like, you know, it's.

1973
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:14,880
Be president.
I'm sorry.

1974
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,360
He wasn't the one that wrote
you.

1975
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,160
Thomas Jefferson.
You know a lot of writers.

1976
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:20,760
He was.
You don't hear.

1977
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:27,040
You don't hear about all the
amazing dude.

1978
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,760
This guy went hard.
He was.

1979
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:33,680
He was not a poet.
Yeah, I, I, he was.

1980
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,360
I think he was.
He was pretty.

1981
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:36,560
He went.
He was jiggy with it.

1982
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:37,840
He did not.
I don't think he did.

1983
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,360
He let his slaves go after I
think.

1984
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,040
He let his slaves no.
No Jefferson.

1985
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,880
Jefferson after in his will, I
think, released all I think

1986
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:48,680
Washington.
How?

1987
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:49,840
Convenient.
No, no, no.

1988
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,000
I think they're free to work for
someone else.

1989
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,360
No, but it was taught that
wasn't rough.

1990
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,160
Free to go until that was wrong.
After I die.

1991
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:06,680
Everyone's like with dude you're
overthinking.

1992
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:12,160
Don't overthink with Jews, it's
no with.

1993
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:16,000
The Jew.
With Jew the the.

1994
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,000
Say it I'm.
Listening No the.

1995
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,560
We're not, we're in the one
park, no ones the same.

1996
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,360
I think we're at two hours
probably.

1997
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,960
No, we're like an hour and
probably 25 minutes.

1998
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:26,280
Wow.
That's it.

1999
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,160
That's not bad.
Yeah, Yeah.

2000
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:33,280
The everyone's like, maybe I
don't feel like the hardship of

2001
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,840
Jews, which is why I don't
definitely don't, dude.

2002
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:36,560
Yeah.
So.

2003
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,680
So I'm saying when, when, when
you're going to feel it in 10

2004
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,720
years.
I'm saying, yeah, but yeah.

2005
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,120
But like when people like make
jokes about slave or like when

2006
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:48,120
people talk about slavery or
like or try to not minimize, but

2007
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,320
try to contextualize slavery.
Yeah, everyone had slavery.

2008
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,640
Yeah, it can.
It feels diminishing to the to

2009
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,400
the suffering of your great
grandfather.

2010
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,520
Your grandfather I get Yeah.
So as a Jew I don't feel that

2011
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:03,640
that being said that context,
you can laugh, joke so can you.

2012
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:09,000
But that being said when people
talk about like JFK not J RFK,

2013
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:13,480
like the letters RFK wrote about
Jews about like we can let them

2014
01:35:13,480 --> 01:35:15,600
in but like you can't let them
like move around the country.

2015
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,280
Everyone was anti-Semitic who
said that?

2016
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:20,120
RFK.
I know.

2017
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:24,960
FDRFDR yes, he has his letters.
He hated Jews, dude, everyone

2018
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:29,320
hated Jews until like 1950.
We don't fucking sucks.

2019
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,400
We gave everyone another fucking
reason excuse to hate us again.

2020
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:37,440
Well, there's no good, but we
gave a little door a little bit.

2021
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,360
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I
know, I know.

2022
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,280
I just an excuse, just I was
talking to my I know.

2023
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:47,280
The guy I.
Learned with today.

2024
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:48,960
This morning we're talking about
this.

2025
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:50,360
He's.
One of the only people in the

2026
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,520
world that I could talk to you
about this kind of stuff except

2027
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,200
for my fucking podcast
apparently.

2028
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:59,160
And and and we're talking and I
was like, dude, why is Israel

2029
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:04,120
set of making themselves look so
fucking bad to everyone in the

2030
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:08,720
fucking world all the time?
America hates Israel right now

2031
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,120
more than they.
Have.

2032
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:14,480
In my life, in my that was
happening and this accelerated.

2033
01:36:14,480 --> 01:36:16,080
That was already happening.
No, it wasn't, dude.

2034
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,360
Yes, it was.
Young people didn't fuck with

2035
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,400
this.
We young people, yeah, you know

2036
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,800
what we could have done?
We could have helped ourselves,

2037
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,120
dude, no, if young people were
saying guess what?

2038
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,600
We're sick of 25 years of war
and the same Middle East war.

2039
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,840
Israel didn't have to go and get
America involved again when all

2040
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,080
of America was like, we don't
want this and I have no

2041
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,160
appetite.
We voted for Trump into not gave

2042
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:38,360
it.
But the the question is the

2043
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:42,600
Gaza, the issue in Gaza would
have happened in 10 years.

2044
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,480
I know years 30 Gaza eventually
happened.

2045
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,160
Well, maybe.
You know what else I think could

2046
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:53,080
also happen, which I think no,
would have come by and said,

2047
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,720
yeah, you get Saudi Arabia.
I'm going to rebuild the

2048
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,800
rebuild.
Leave it, leave it alone right,

2049
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,480
so America looks great because
of funding it.

2050
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,200
Israel looks good because of
letting it happen.

2051
01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:10,240
UAE has the OR Dubai, whoever it
is, trust the Arab world.

2052
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:14,160
You all go together, you get you
say you guys all have a

2053
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:17,880
legitimate opportunity to have
good structure from the ground

2054
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,280
up.
Go ahead and do it.

2055
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,680
And for some reason instead of
that, every single time that BB

2056
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,280
comes to the White House, we end
up bombing another country.

2057
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:31,160
I'll say this, that looks bad.
I agree BB is more more of a war

2058
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,600
monger than maybe Israel needs
right now.

2059
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:37,800
That being said, I think there's
a lot more heat that Israel gets

2060
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:43,440
simply because the the you could
say Israel's about to make a lot

2061
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:47,240
of Israel was in the process and
is maybe in the future going to

2062
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,720
continue making a lot of
progress in trade agreements,

2063
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,560
right?
Where a lot of with even with

2064
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:57,280
the UAE, with Saudi Arabia with
they're working on that.

2065
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,400
Yeah.
So, so all these countries were

2066
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:03,520
normalizing was were constant.
There was a constant

2067
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,640
normalizing.
Well, the reason October 7th

2068
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:11,800
happened the Jordan, Jordan in
Syria was reason the reason the

2069
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:15,440
reason people say part of the
reason October 7 happened was

2070
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:17,920
because of the normalizing of
trade relationships.

2071
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,400
And I ran.
No, dude.

2072
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:24,800
Do you disagree that Iran is?
Do you disagree that Iran has

2073
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,760
continued?
No, I don't drop up the the

2074
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,120
issue.
I don't disagree.

2075
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,040
No, No, I don't disagree.
Do you agree?

2076
01:38:33,480 --> 01:38:37,280
That.
Israel had almost certainly

2077
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,720
either two options a known about
October 7th before it happened

2078
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:48,400
or while it was happening and
responded very late and B, I

2079
01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:50,640
don't believe there's a chance
in a million years.

2080
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,160
They don't know where the
hostages are.

2081
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:57,040
I think in a minute, I think
both all of those things, both

2082
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:01,480
of those those things, both of
those options, our generation is

2083
01:39:01,480 --> 01:39:05,000
screwed.
Both of those options, I think

2084
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:10,800
are are products of a world
where we assume that there's

2085
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,280
perfect information everywhere.
And it's almost scary to think

2086
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,040
that there is imperfect
information.

2087
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,520
It's scary to think that Israel
isn't smart enough to know where

2088
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,440
every hostage is exactly.
It's scary.

2089
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:24,800
I don't think it's scary to
think that there was a mishap to

2090
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,000
some 20.
Yeah, it's scary to think that

2091
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,760
there's some 21 year old women.
It's scary to think that it's

2092
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,360
not wait, wait.
It's scary to think there's

2093
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:33,720
some, there's some.
Wait.

2094
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,840
It's scary to think there's some
21 year old at the desk, some 20

2095
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,440
year old Intel operative at the
desk who doesn't know.

2096
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:42,040
It's scared to think we don't
know.

2097
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,400
And the same thing happened with
911, everyone said.

2098
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,720
I can't.
Believe no one knew about It's

2099
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:51,000
scared to think that the world
is chaos to a certain agreement.

2100
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,440
You can talk to him.
I, I, I, I agree with you.

2101
01:39:53,480 --> 01:39:55,760
I'm saying I don't know.
I think like we all know

2102
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,640
everything and there's some guy
at the top that knows everything

2103
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,880
and everyone else.
It's an excellent argument.

2104
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:01,560
I do not disagree with you.
I really don't.

2105
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,240
I really don't.
The first all that we knew about

2106
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:07,600
it before.
We, I think that, I think

2107
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,440
October 7th and two, we knew
where the hostages are.

2108
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,520
Maybe not all of them, but we
know where a bunch of them are

2109
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,040
and we could get them out.
We have not.

2110
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:15,680
We said the same thing of Pearl
Harbor.

2111
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:17,520
We said that Pearl Harbor, they
said I'm not.

2112
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,320
I let it happen because the
boats were lined up together

2113
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,520
because Bora Bora knew, we knew
that the planes were coming.

2114
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,840
But the truth is we knew the
planes were coming.

2115
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,600
We didn't know because there
were a lot of training

2116
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:28,920
operations and that never
happened before.

2117
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:32,320
And the boats were lined up
because we were more concerned

2118
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,920
about sabotage than than than a
plane coming and bombing in a

2119
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:36,680
linear line.
Sure.

2120
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:41,080
So that's I'm saying for sure,
do not do not time out.

2121
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,080
Let's say, hypothetically, I
concede to.

2122
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,880
To that complete.
Point right, which I let's say I

2123
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:51,400
do, maybe I do I don't have, I
don't have a very strong opinion

2124
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,400
one way or the other about it
because I don't know anything

2125
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:55,920
about it.
So I don't need so, but what,

2126
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:59,560
what I will say is that it did
take like 7 hours to respond to

2127
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,560
the scene.
It says Israel does not Israel

2128
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,280
does not take 7 hours to respond
to anything.

2129
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:10,120
When I, I will go to the airport
and I will I will go to Ben

2130
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,400
Gurion airport.
It's very, it seems, dude, I'll

2131
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,000
go to Ben Gurion Airport and
someone leaves their backpack

2132
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:19,240
outside for 30 seconds too long
and bomb squad is there and then

2133
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:20,560
the entire thing is shut down
and.

2134
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:22,320
Then.
They say, oh, they're they're

2135
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,440
like.
This is the border of Gaza.

2136
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:27,960
No, but the worst was that they
were giving excuses like there

2137
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,120
was an election going on.
We were sidetracked.

2138
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,480
Go fuck yourself, yeah?
Like he said here for here's go

2139
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,120
fuck Yeah, exactly.
Here's here's what I believe.

2140
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:40,680
I it seems pretty wild.
It's.

2141
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:42,360
Amazing.
I could be wrong.

2142
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,760
I'm totally OK with being wrong.
I could be wrong.

2143
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,680
I, I, I would, I, I have no
problem being wrong.

2144
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:54,960
I think that BBBB is causing
issues to avoid to to avoid to

2145
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,640
avoid the the day of reckoning
that he has to face inevitably

2146
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:02,760
sure he already had a had a day
of reckoning to face prior to

2147
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:08,320
I'm not I'm not I started.
I'm not an Uber fan of Uber.

2148
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:11,120
I'm not arguing.
I'm not arguing with you.

2149
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:14,360
I'm just I'm just making no, I'm
not trying to fight with you or

2150
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:17,080
argue with you.
My point is that you could fight

2151
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:18,840
an argument.
I know, but I'm not trying to

2152
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,640
because I think that all this is
in the conversation and the good

2153
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,360
like I what was best for Israel
that that.

2154
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,600
But that does not mean that you
don't get to say when you think

2155
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,680
they're doing something stupid
that you can't say that you

2156
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:31,520
think they're doing something.
I I started.

2157
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,520
I think, I think, I think Phoebe
is not the right shit.

2158
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,040
I think Phoebe is not the right
leader for today.

2159
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,080
What we need.
Yeah.

2160
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:40,520
And the same thing can be said
about Winston Churchill.

2161
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,240
Yes, there's a bad thing.
There's a lot of people who are

2162
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:47,280
good for church, what Family
Guy.

2163
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,640
There's a lot of people are good
for a certain period of time or

2164
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:53,360
yes, I, I, I thought for a while
that BB is a little just he's

2165
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:56,800
just a little too much for, for
what Israel may need when it

2166
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:58,280
comes to the subtlety of
diplomacy.

2167
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:03,440
Diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy,
yeah, and trade and all that

2168
01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:04,880
stuff.
But yeah, it's not just

2169
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,640
politics, by the way.
I think it's really interesting.

2170
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:10,320
I was talking also to someone
else recently about this, where

2171
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:15,480
I think that because there's
been a systemic breakdown in

2172
01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:22,560
trust in authority and
institutions, there's been a

2173
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,600
breakdown in the trust that
young people have not wanted to

2174
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,040
get involved in those
institutions, right?

2175
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:33,160
So like say, Hollywood for
example.

2176
01:43:42,440 --> 01:43:47,080
Hollywood's run by old people.
They do the same shit year to

2177
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,440
year.
We took the the swing off the

2178
01:43:49,440 --> 01:43:52,160
tug.
It was just to like curl the

2179
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:52,920
experiment.
Dude.

2180
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,200
Hollywood to get kids does not
stop.

2181
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:04,520
That's not making the same shit
because the same people have

2182
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,320
been running the company for
twenty, 30-40 years.

2183
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:11,000
News hasn't changed.
The same corporations have been

2184
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:12,800
the same people for the same
203040 years.

2185
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:16,720
Politics hasn't changed.
I think that for, well, every

2186
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,200
but even education, young people
are turning away from college

2187
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,560
for the first time in 30 years,
40 years, 50 years.

2188
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,720
I know, dude, it's going to be
great.

2189
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,640
But, you know, it's amazing.
But it took so long.

2190
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:31,520
Someone was like, do you want
to, do you want to pay into

2191
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:33,200
Florida?
What's that for the program

2192
01:44:33,480 --> 01:44:35,880
where you're paying now and then
have it like exponentially

2193
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,320
cheaper for your kid if you
start paying now Prepaid.

2194
01:44:38,480 --> 01:44:41,000
Yeah.
I'm like, dude, of course you

2195
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:44,120
think in 20, you think in 20
years college is going to be a

2196
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:45,880
thing.
I had that for Nathan.

2197
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:47,880
I cashed it out.
Man, yeah, you're like, what is

2198
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:48,800
this?
You're like, well, this was a

2199
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:50,480
stupid idea.
Like, I can't believe I did this

2200
01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:53,440
for three years.
But I think the point is.

2201
01:44:53,440 --> 01:44:56,040
That was going for so long.
Yeah, I think that there's so

2202
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,080
many old people.
Interrupted you?

2203
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:02,600
Yeah.
Well, so I think there's so many

2204
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:07,800
young people that are so
disenfranchised with the world

2205
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:13,120
today that we don't want to step
up to the limelight in the in

2206
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,920
what's been historically the
regular areas.

2207
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,760
Instead, people are trying to
make their own things.

2208
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,840
What, what, what, what worlds
are the young are the young

2209
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,280
people in?
They're in podcasting, they're

2210
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,680
in AI, they're in technology.
They're in worlds that are not

2211
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:29,400
typically considered old school.
They're not in politics, they're

2212
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,480
not in film, they're not in
education, they're not in

2213
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,040
universities, they're not in
research.

2214
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:38,520
They're not in like, I think a
lot of people are so

2215
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:43,240
disenfranchised with the way
that the old school has run

2216
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:47,200
things that they've kind of,
they, they've given up pursuing

2217
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,120
it.
And instead of pursuing it, they

2218
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,320
just let them keep it and they
try to do their own thing

2219
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:54,360
separately.
And I have no problem with that.

2220
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,920
Yeah, it could be a good thing,
but it takes time for the world

2221
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,040
to switch over.
For example, I just read on

2222
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:06,400
Twitter like Variety had a top
100 meaningful, like impactful

2223
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,720
podcasts, shows Joe Rogan didn't
make the top 100.

2224
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:11,280
No, that was.
So I know.

2225
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:16,960
Does that, does that show you
how huge of how huge of a chasm

2226
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,120
there is between the mainstream,
quote UN quote, corporate

2227
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,880
mainstream media and what people
actually listen to?

2228
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,240
And there's no way to get
recognized in that kind of world

2229
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,400
and be in that kind of world at
the same time.

2230
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,400
You should have say that point
for a podcast like 10 minutes

2231
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,120
into it instead of, yeah, dude,
I'm going to say it again, dude.

2232
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:40,080
It's a very, very good point.
I think that chasm is going to

2233
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:41,360
continue.
Yeah.

2234
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,640
And then young people and, and
then and that's like, I'd say,

2235
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:48,240
for example, cable television
versus streaming, right?

2236
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:51,200
Cable television is just going
away.

2237
01:46:51,440 --> 01:46:54,240
I think a lot of these methods
that that are old school, that

2238
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:57,400
no one's adopting, that no one
has even like the effort or the

2239
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:00,200
energy or like the will to fight
late nights over.

2240
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:01,440
Yeah.
They're like, you know, I'm not

2241
01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:04,160
going to fight to try to get on
this late, late, late night

2242
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:04,920
show.
Shit.

2243
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,080
This sucks.
I'm just going to do my own

2244
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:11,000
podcast and you know what?
It works so well that all the

2245
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:13,160
late night shows aren't making
any money anymore.

2246
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:17,880
Here's the question I have
because it's to me originally.

2247
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:21,720
And even still, although it's a
little less I'm so I'm so

2248
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:27,080
excited when I see podcasting
and like, because the way you

2249
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:31,040
used to learn something, if it's
good or bad, but it's at least

2250
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:36,000
at least it's authentic.
The way, dude, bottom shelf, the

2251
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,760
way you used to, the way your
mom's bottom shelf, dude.

2252
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:41,840
Yeah.
The way you used to learn

2253
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:45,280
something was through like, your
older sibling or your community

2254
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,240
or area.
And now with podcasts, with all

2255
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,400
this stuff, you.
I remember when, like, I started

2256
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:56,280
seeing like, I learned almost
certainly more from, like, free

2257
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,520
information than I did from
school because I was

2258
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,920
homeschooled and the only school
I ever saw was really law

2259
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:02,520
school.
Yeah.

2260
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,760
Like in an authentic manner and
so like learning from the world.

2261
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:11,200
Into law school.
I do like Kim Credit Action.

2262
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,120
I just yeah, you're making that
shit up, dude.

2263
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,120
So, like, the only schooling I
ran was law school like that

2264
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,320
barely.
I mean, taught me obviously

2265
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:24,440
stuff, but like, nothing about
like, what makes me a person.

2266
01:48:24,440 --> 01:48:27,520
Yeah.
And it's crazy how like, but now

2267
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,720
that's my English degree was
really useful to me.

2268
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:31,400
Yeah.
It taught me how to be a person.

2269
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,120
Yeah, and like that was the only
thing you taught me.

2270
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:37,920
But yeah, I didn't, I didn't
know you had an English too.

2271
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:38,720
Yeah.
What kind?

2272
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:40,960
Yeah, yeah.
English Slit Foster,

2273
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:42,960
Shakespeare, that stuff.
Dude, fuck that shit.

2274
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,800
I didn't read any of that shit.
Yeah, dude, I, I did all, I did

2275
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,120
all these creative writing.
I did creative writing.

2276
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:51,760
I think I did 2 creative writing
things in my I got started

2277
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,040
creative writing and the only
major there was was either

2278
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,040
rhetoric or creative writing.
And I didn't want to do

2279
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,640
rhetoric.
I didn't even let the men watch.

2280
01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:01,880
Because there's an H after the
R.

2281
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:03,840
Yeah, exactly, dude.
Yeah.

2282
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,840
What's your creative right?
What?

2283
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:07,600
A lot of poetry, dude.
Poetry.

2284
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,040
Poetry.
It's ironic.

2285
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:12,040
I thought you would really like,
like Chaucer stuff.

2286
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,600
You know what I learned Chaucer.
I love Shakespeare.

2287
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:19,640
I didn't love Old English.
I love Beowulf.

2288
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:21,920
That is all English.
I know.

2289
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,200
That was the only one that I
liked.

2290
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,440
I loved Beowulf.
There's something about it that

2291
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:27,520
was so funny, that was so like
the.

2292
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:28,880
Big roasters.
I read violence ago.

2293
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:32,320
He was big on that.
He would always no.

2294
01:49:32,440 --> 01:49:35,560
Dude, you know who I like?
Dude, the little engine that cut

2295
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:38,760
the little pill.
I just need a pill.

2296
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:43,640
Dude, when I when I saw on
screen, I had a teacher that

2297
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:47,240
used to show me a Shakespeare
scene with three different

2298
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,480
actors, Dude, that's that was
him.

2299
01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:52,080
I know dude, there's two
different.

2300
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:54,640
Actors, I was.
Listening.

2301
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,480
And each of the actors would
play the role completely

2302
01:49:58,480 --> 01:50:01,040
differently.
And that's why I loved it.

2303
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:05,600
I was like, when you have the
ability to take a script and

2304
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:11,040
translate it, if I tell you,
Pacey gasps, right?

2305
01:50:11,440 --> 01:50:16,000
You gasp out of enthusiasm.
You gasp out of angst.

2306
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:18,880
Or.
You gasp seriously out of

2307
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:22,640
surprise.
But the point is that a lot of

2308
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:27,160
what screen writing is a lot of
what acting and screen writing

2309
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:31,520
is, is the more specific you are
as a screenwriter, the the the

2310
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,440
worse the actor could afford to
be.

2311
01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:35,880
Yes, yeah, absolutely.
Because if you're a really good

2312
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,200
screenwriter, you don't even
leave that direction.

2313
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,560
Like apparently the office trees
have great screen.

2314
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:44,440
Yes, apparently the office was,
was was shot like that or like

2315
01:50:44,440 --> 01:50:47,480
the worst actor where is written
where everything was written.

2316
01:50:47,480 --> 01:50:50,160
Camera zooms into Jim's face
because he clearly feels

2317
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:51,800
uncomfortable responding.
To the question.

2318
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,280
And like first actors.
But it was amazing.

2319
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:56,440
By the way, the big you know,
you know, by the way.

2320
01:50:56,440 --> 01:50:58,840
And everyone says, Oh, well,
comedy, it's hard to do it that

2321
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:01,160
way.
The big, you know, everyone, you

2322
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:03,040
don't think about the big my
favorite movie of all time.

2323
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:07,040
OK Do you know that every
single, you know, every single

2324
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:10,280
word to the word, they were
asked like, did you ad Lib?

2325
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:12,600
Because they all feel so
natural.

2326
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,040
It sounds natural.
It's amazing.

2327
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:18,320
Every word was written.
And they and they emphasized

2328
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:19,720
that you do it that way.
Yeah.

2329
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,280
And they did.
There was not one word of that

2330
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:24,480
that wasn't written.
They're also directors, for

2331
01:51:24,480 --> 01:51:25,280
example.
No, that.

2332
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,320
No.
But then kind of Doug Allen.

2333
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:29,840
Yeah, Doug Allen talks about
there's an answer where he goes

2334
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:33,200
I want one take where it's
because Doug Allen wrote the

2335
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,760
show Entourage, and he was the
writer and the creator.

2336
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:39,880
And so a lot of times you'd be
like, I want one take my way.

2337
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,680
And then you could do however
many takes you want, as many

2338
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:45,480
different ways as you want.
But I want to just see my my

2339
01:51:45,480 --> 01:51:47,840
script come to life and then if
yours is better.

2340
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:49,320
I'll put yours in.
Yeah, because if you're, you

2341
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,560
know, if you have a better idea
and your and your and your

2342
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,600
interpretation of the scene is
better, then I'll definitely go

2343
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:58,160
for it.
And but like he'll take 4-5 and

2344
01:51:58,160 --> 01:51:59,880
like, and that's that's an
interesting thing because a lot

2345
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:08,440
of times people say fire the
next day, Dude, I was ready to

2346
01:52:08,440 --> 01:52:11,120
defend a final like he's he's
actually cooking with this

2347
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,280
point.
I love creativity.

2348
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:16,680
I love creating funny content.
But then you came out with a

2349
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,320
really funny comment, dude, fire
the next day.

2350
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:20,880
And that was good.
Dude.

2351
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:23,960
Are you still writing?
What are you still writing?

2352
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:26,760
I'm not.
I don't do a good writer.

2353
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:28,200
No.
You want to do stand up writing,

2354
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:30,360
dude, Stand up.
Yeah.

2355
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:31,600
I don't know that I'm.
I don't know.

2356
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:33,880
I thought you meant free
creative writing.

2357
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:37,080
I with stand up.
I have a great bit I'm trying to

2358
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,120
work through now.
Let's hear it was.

2359
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:43,280
Oh, don't do it in.
Kernel open.

2360
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:46,560
Mic about how like the
government is so like we control

2361
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,120
Oh, you're ready to start the
government.

2362
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:52,160
This kid got an ass dude.
Like we think about it every

2363
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:56,000
part of like the road, every
part of government.

2364
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,120
It starts with like broadly
speaking.

2365
01:52:58,480 --> 01:53:01,040
Then you talk about the road,
like do you understand how many

2366
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:04,360
Rd. rules there are?
Like you, there's like you

2367
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:09,360
can't, you can't like left turn,
like dotted line, there's

2368
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,920
straight line.
And then out of nowhere, out of

2369
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:15,640
nowhere, we just created the,
the roundabout.

2370
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:22,040
Just like just merge A4 lane
roundabout, just merge and just

2371
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,800
like just pray to God it works
and it's like.

2372
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,720
Perfected like a motherfucker.
Good, good premise.

2373
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:30,760
Good premise, dude.
But like, it's such a crazy

2374
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,240
concept on the road.
We're just like everyone train

2375
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:35,480
in the circle and just go the
eggs that you want.

2376
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,320
Like, I don't know.
I love it.

2377
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,200
Yeah, I love it.
I like the I like the bit also

2378
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,440
about being I think someone
could do a really good job with

2379
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,880
with forget, with forgetting
what it's like to be in the car

2380
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,280
versus being a pedestrian.
You're like, you're a

2381
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,080
pedestrian.
You're always pissed off at the

2382
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,160
view on the cars.
When you're in the gum, you

2383
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:57,400
immediately forget.
Fuck you asshole, already

2384
01:53:57,440 --> 01:54:00,280
walking on the street.
You're like, you're like, dude,

2385
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:03,280
I have to be turning.
It's my light.

2386
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:05,160
I'm walking like that's very
good.

2387
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,080
A little piece.
Someone spit on my windshield

2388
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:13,760
one time.
Dude, I was in I I'll tell you

2389
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:17,520
exactly where I was.
I was on 100th and Columbus.

2390
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:22,560
I was making the right turn to
head South on the Upper West

2391
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,280
Side.
I, I was either living or

2392
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:28,280
visiting.
I lived in an apartment building

2393
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:33,960
97th in Columbus, OK and I made
the less than 100th and it was

2394
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,240
the people's light.
Like you know what I get is The

2395
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:37,360
Walking light.
Seasons, right?

2396
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:41,360
Not seasons.
Whole Foods, the Whole Foods,

2397
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:44,160
the Whole Foods.
Next 90. 4th Alright.

2398
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,960
No, the Whole Foods.
Yeah, Whole Foods next to your

2399
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:55,720
moms house.
And and so it had like the

2400
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:58,120
people crossing sign with the
sign with the top sign.

2401
01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:02,000
And this guy was crossing and I
was inching forward while he was

2402
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:06,040
walking and he felt the guy that
I guess inched forward into his

2403
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:09,080
personal space and took creative
liberties of spitting on my

2404
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:10,320
windshield and.
Telling me to go.

2405
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:14,240
Fuck myself and I was like,
well, I could just spray that

2406
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:19,360
right off.
But also he was so dude, I think

2407
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:24,000
cities are bad for people.
Also, I wanted to say this since

2408
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:26,160
I texted you earlier today about
the podcast.

2409
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,960
Dude, the rest of New York has
to be a different state than the

2410
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,600
suburbs.
What do you mean?

2411
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,440
Like I think the boroughs have
to be 1 state and I think that

2412
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,680
anything north of like Rockland
has to be its own state.

2413
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,320
And I bet that New York would be
such a better place to live like

2414
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:43,800
the rest of New York.
NY bro, all here is upstate New

2415
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,880
York and the city.
That's it in Brooklyn.

2416
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:49,160
Think about how.
Different OK upstate New York

2417
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,080
isn't here.
I'm not from from from that

2418
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:54,120
crazy upstate New York is
Rockland.

2419
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:54,920
You're.
From.

2420
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:59,960
Binghamton, Buffalo here.
Binghamton, Buffalo, Rochester,

2421
01:55:59,960 --> 01:56:02,400
Finger Lakes.
Jack Rondex.

2422
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:04,120
Those.
People do not.

2423
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:05,480
Those are all.
Part of New York.

2424
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:10,680
Those people do not all belong
to the same political decision

2425
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:15,320
making as the 17 year olds in
Manhattan or the 23 year olds

2426
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:15,720
in.
Manhattan.

2427
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:17,720
But The thing is, the population
of Manhattan equals the

2428
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:19,600
population.
Yeah, of all those things, it

2429
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:21,040
exceeds it.
That's the point.

2430
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:24,920
And those people do not have, I
think that city, how many people

2431
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,240
live in New York City?
That's wild.

2432
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,600
Millions.
But by the way, it it moves, I

2433
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,240
mean, I grew up here.
I I don't like that kind of

2434
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,720
movement.
It's not natural to me, but.

2435
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:37,360
But I didn't grow up with it.
But it's, you know.

2436
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,040
Oh, yeah.
Dude, let's see another one.

2437
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,840
We'll call it the I don't know,
the fish, the tequila bottle.

2438
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:43,800
Yeah, let's do it.
That's the.

2439
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:45,240
I don't.
I grew up here.

2440
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:46,560
I love it.
I do love.

2441
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:48,120
But you.
But you said you grew up really

2442
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:49,280
up to date all the summer,
right?

2443
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:50,080
Yeah.
Summers.

2444
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:52,280
Half the summer I was
homeschooled, so half the summer

2445
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:55,320
I'd spent up seeing dude.
Half a year.

2446
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:56,840
I mean, half the year.
I want to.

2447
01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:01,080
I want to homeschool my kids,
dude. 8.5 billion 8.5 billion

2448
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:04,360
people in New York City.
That's crazy, I think over 350

2449
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,680
languages spoken daily.
Wait, can I 300 and?

2450
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,200
50 million people are in the.
USI want to homeschool my kids.

2451
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:12,840
That's really crazy.
Did your parents have to do a

2452
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:17,320
lot of work to homeschool you?
I so I loved my experience

2453
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:21,240
homeschooling.
I think one of the advantages

2454
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,000
your mom.
Did you have that one?

2455
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:26,080
Your mom's.
He left a lot of stuff at your

2456
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:30,040
mom's.
Yeah, it's a yayo.

2457
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:31,840
You have to eat the tequila with
a with.

2458
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:33,600
The line with it.
I do do.

2459
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:35,440
This guy chews on the line like
an ape.

2460
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:37,120
Yeah.
What are you saying?

2461
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:38,640
Do you not need a line?
Do you think I need?

2462
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:40,240
No, dude, I don't need a lime.
It's good.

2463
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:41,040
Tequila.
Tastes good.

2464
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:46,800
What He Hein, Hein.
Dude, do you think?

2465
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:48,240
Do you think I could homeschool
my kids?

2466
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,400
No.
What do you think I could my

2467
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,520
kids?
Well, let me do the shower

2468
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:56,600
quick.
How'd you came again?

2469
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:59,120
It kills me he's just shooting
the fry dude.

2470
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:02,080
You could definitely educate
them.

2471
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:04,960
But dude, my kids don't like
you.

2472
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:06,240
Can I tell you what I I don't
want to.

2473
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,760
Think.
The only I'll say the only tell

2474
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:13,080
me you think the prep my prep
first of all, I think that was

2475
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,960
in the Hebrew school or yeshiva
half the day and.

2476
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:17,440
There you go.
Right.

2477
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:22,200
I think that the classroom
setting does not encourage

2478
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:25,120
what's going to be required to
succeed.

2479
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,600
And even five years from now,
totally.

2480
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:32,400
And I don't think that my kids
will have, and I don't think my

2481
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:34,920
kid will benefit being a bottle
of seltzer.

2482
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:36,960
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.

2483
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:39,040
I don't think my kid will
benefit from being in a

2484
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:45,560
classroom with 12 other kids
learning Mr. Grossman's.

2485
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:49,600
That's wow.
OK, Doctor Brown.

2486
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:52,520
Doctor Brown.
Whatever it is, right?

2487
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:57,400
I love you Doctor Brown.
I, I I think that if I taught my

2488
01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:03,680
kid literally how to listen to I
know this sounds crazy, but I

2489
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,280
don't think it is right.
David Draymond's Heavy Metal

2490
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:11,040
Disturbed No, I think that if
you got your kid to listen to

2491
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:15,920
particular either master
classes, podcasts, YouTube

2492
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:20,640
channels on, on on various
topics that equal English,

2493
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:25,040
history, math, science, and then
you encourage them to spend half

2494
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:28,480
their day pursuing something
that that's creative on their

2495
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:30,840
own time in their own way.
So can it.

2496
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,720
So that's what I did.
That's what we did.

2497
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:34,920
Yeah.
And do you think that was, do

2498
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:36,880
you think that was awesome?
I can't remember the name of the

2499
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,440
guy that came up with that, but
that's a, it's a specific kind

2500
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:43,840
of home school.
And it's, it's, it's like, so I

2501
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:47,960
used, we first tried a few
programs at work and then my

2502
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:52,000
parents decided the clown layer,
Compuhy clown layer.

2503
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:56,280
And then they use complex to
supplement stuff that you can't

2504
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:59,480
like algebra, you can't teach
yourself, But so you use like

2505
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:01,360
courses.
There were two of those,

2506
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:02,840
environmental science and
algebra.

2507
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:05,320
There's the only, there's the
only courses that ever took.

2508
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:07,080
Everything else was what you
said.

2509
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:10,160
So 300 hours of American history
in like.

2510
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:12,760
My whole education, yeah.
So you do it.

2511
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:15,000
You and you prove it.
You did it.

2512
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:17,760
But it's so much fun, too.
Like, the way you teach it could

2513
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,160
be enjoyable.
I mean, you could be like, make

2514
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:23,120
like a project explaining the
Civil War.

2515
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:27,120
It's exactly what?
So you would have to like create

2516
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:30,840
information, then your parents
would have to like, positively

2517
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:31,920
reinforced.
Yeah, of course.

2518
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:34,040
Like at one point I.
How involved are your parents in

2519
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:37,480
your education?
So my mom up until high school

2520
02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:39,160
age, I started high school at
13.

2521
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:41,680
I finished at 16.
Nice.

2522
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:44,360
It was great.
We did you go at 1616?

2523
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:48,760
I went to to Community College
courses for two years in the

2524
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:51,240
summer.
So you got an associate at 16?

2525
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,600
At 16, I started at Wolfson
campus.

2526
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:57,200
So at 13, I started taking
Community College courses at 16.

2527
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:58,480
Really.
How old are you?

2528
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:01,480
I didn't know what I was, what I
was supposed to do all day.

2529
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:08,360
I look over TV's and like fast.
He's grabbing some shit out.

2530
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:10,320
No, I don't need to talk about
it.

2531
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:12,800
Let's just about something fun,
dude.

2532
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:17,440
I think I know, but I want to.
I'm down to laugh too.

2533
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,920
I want to do something like.
I don't want to.

2534
02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:23,240
First of all, I don't want to
spend $100,000 a kid.

2535
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:25,960
Yeah, See what you should do.
The answer is second of all, I

2536
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:31,240
think I can teach my my kids are
better in college classes for in

2537
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:33,120
the summer only.
And then I would just do like

2538
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:34,240
classic.
Were they hard?

2539
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:39,080
No, no, no.
The the the hardest one was bio,

2540
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:41,240
but it wasn't hard.
It was bored.

2541
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:45,200
It just wasn't my topic.
The at 16, I started college.

2542
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:47,800
At 20, I was done.
Four years later, I was done.

2543
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,920
I started law school at 21.
By 24, I was done in law school.

2544
02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:57,240
It didn't seem it's awesome.
It didn't seem like it was later

2545
02:01:57,240 --> 02:02:01,200
that I like, it didn't seem
unique to me, only ironically,

2546
02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:05,600
because my sister did
everything, like way more

2547
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:07,840
efficiently than me.
So is she younger than you?

2548
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:09,320
Older.
Older than you?

2549
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:11,640
Yeah.
But she did like, she she was

2550
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:13,160
like older sister, dude.
She was.

2551
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:15,160
That's the most underrated thing
in the entire world.

2552
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:17,400
She was done.
She was done with her masters.

2553
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:20,240
She she was like in the family.
She was a practicing

2554
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:22,960
psychologist by 21.
No way.

2555
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:26,680
Yeah, like fully done working.
Like she's kick ass.

2556
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,400
But your sister.
Yeah, but.

2557
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:30,880
And she to this day.
Where did she live?

2558
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:33,160
My beach.
Really.

2559
02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:35,080
Yeah, Good for her.
Yeah, she's amazing.

2560
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:36,440
But.
But I'm saying like, it didn't

2561
02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:38,760
it wasn't like it wasn't that I
was.

2562
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:43,280
It's so I I wasn't smart.
I wasn't like, uniquely.

2563
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,560
You're smart, dude.
No, but I wasn't uniquely smart.

2564
02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:48,680
I was just like home.
To your point, homeschooling

2565
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:54,240
encourages earlier.
Earlier, like, like, there's no

2566
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:57,400
reason why you can't be finished
with high school by 16.

2567
02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:59,200
Yeah, there's no reason.
Yeah.

2568
02:02:59,880 --> 02:03:01,480
And so I did it.
So yeah.

2569
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,240
That's awesome.
The one problem is no, this

2570
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:08,120
social media wasn't a problem.
It wasn't a problem.

2571
02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:10,720
Thank God my family did.
My family wasn't.

2572
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:17,400
Like, it's so funny.
It's just my family wasn't

2573
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:24,240
against for the people, for the
whatever, whoever's listening,

2574
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:28,280
someone just left the room.
Yeah, my family wasn't.

2575
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:30,880
Again, it was like there was a
lot of people I knew who were

2576
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:33,320
homeschoolers when I was like
1011 years old, I went to

2577
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:37,360
homeschool conventions and there
were a lot of Christian people

2578
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:40,720
that were keeping their kids
home because they didn't want

2579
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:43,080
them.
Like to hear the devil's word.

2580
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:44,840
OK, gotcha.
They're crazy people.

2581
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:49,120
So if you're not homeschooling
to, like keep your kid away from

2582
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,720
bad influences, which is a
problem because then you'll like

2583
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:54,200
jurymen how they act.
Yeah, of course.

2584
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:55,920
And it will be crazy.
Yeah, of course.

2585
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:58,200
If you're like encouraging your
kids to like go out and like

2586
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:03,000
crush it and see the world and
talk to people, then you have no

2587
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:04,280
problem.
And especially if you guys, I

2588
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:07,360
don't want to do religious and
you go to shul like I had I had

2589
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:11,960
tons of friends from synagogue
from shul and it was it wasn't

2590
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:15,000
that's what I want to do, dude,
everyone looking out of my mind

2591
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:17,760
and I'm like, it doesn't make
any sense to send my kids to

2592
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:19,720
these places.
It seems so obvious.

2593
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,840
And also I'm there was only
like, my dude, I'm a teacher.

2594
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:24,600
I'm like my mom taught for 10
years.

2595
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:26,800
No, she knew shit.
Mom taught for 10 years.

2596
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:28,120
She's like, I don't want my kids
in this.

2597
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:30,680
They don't know shit, dude.
I don't want, I don't want my

2598
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:35,560
kids learning in these stupid
schools and public school,

2599
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:38,200
private school, X amount of
dollars a year.

2600
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:41,320
It doesn't matter.
I I think I loved my upbringing

2601
02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:44,560
and I gotta tell you that it is
a real it's a real risk.

2602
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:49,000
Listen, you, you know me.
It's it's so fortunately I'm,

2603
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:54,080
I'm very, I'm very comfortable
and very well-rounded.

2604
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:55,840
I'm very comfortable with my own
skin.

2605
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:57,720
But like, there's so many
people.

2606
02:04:57,720 --> 02:05:01,120
Ludicrous.
Yeah, who are so uncomfortable

2607
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:04,280
or so sad and so of course, by
the way, but that's why I think

2608
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,520
so.
The Jewish education, yes, in my

2609
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:09,800
opinion, yes, Has that place
where like, yeah, you send your

2610
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:12,360
kid.
I think that between the fact of

2611
02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:18,400
me probably and I think for one
for for better, for worse,

2612
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:21,640
pushing my kids to pursue a
passion, whether it be a sport

2613
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:26,080
or an art or an instrument or
whatever that encouraged them to

2614
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:28,560
like have group activity and
like to be with other human

2615
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:29,560
beings as well.
Yeah.

2616
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:32,360
And religious life and going to
synagogue.

2617
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:32,720
Yeah.
Yeah.

2618
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:34,680
And all that.
That's I think by the time I

2619
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:38,040
started talking about the four
classes of science, history,

2620
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:41,000
math and English, I'll be like,
who gives a shit?

2621
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:43,320
It's not complicated.
No, that's tough the most more.

2622
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:47,240
And listen, I remember thinking
it at a certain point point like

2623
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:52,880
I remember thinking it was, it's
really important that that I in

2624
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:54,600
social that I talked to people
and socialized.

2625
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:58,760
I must been like 10 years old
and I knew it and it was and I

2626
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:00,160
loved talking to people.
I loved.

2627
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:01,840
It wasn't it wasn't a problem
for me.

2628
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:06,160
Thank God it wasn't a problem,
but I just so many people that

2629
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:07,960
it was a problem for there's
there's people.

2630
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:10,880
If you're homeschooled and I
know and you and you don't take

2631
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:13,520
it, it's on you.
But I parent your parents can't

2632
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:16,280
do it for you.
Like Oh, yeah, no, you can't.

2633
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:18,040
You can't like shove your kid in
front of you.

2634
02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:19,880
You, you have to.
That's a scary thought, by the

2635
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:21,520
way.
It's a scary I'm that's a scary

2636
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,520
thought.
That's one thing for my kid.

2637
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:26,120
You your kid has to just like
you want to be able to do it for

2638
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:27,840
your kid.
I know, I I know.

2639
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:31,560
Dude, turn that shit off.
Is it, is it the CEO?

2640
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:37,920
What do you got?
If ACEO can run a company, raise

2641
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:41,280
3 kids and take a concert with a
woman he's having a fan with,

2642
02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:46,880
you've got time to go for a run.
Dude.

2643
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:48,760
I think we're doing the podcast.
Is that man?

2644
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:50,640
Yeah, it's good.
I'm calling out here, man.

2645
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:52,120
Goodnight everyone.
Love you all.

2646
02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:52,520
Goodnight.