Sept. 12, 2025

#121: Guy Ben-Hanan / Charlie Kirk, Moral Battles, Jewish Meditation & Thought

#121: Guy Ben-Hanan / Charlie Kirk, Moral Battles, Jewish Meditation & Thought

Guy Ben Hanan is my buddy.

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Welcome to another episode of a
come together

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and we're live.
No time, dude.

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Cheers.
Pouring out for Charlie.

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Man oh man, how many places to
go with this dude?

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Or a fan, Emma.
Yeah, man.

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What the holy soul?
No.

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So about Charlie Kirk.
Yeah, what do you it?

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Doesn't make sense.
People would say that he was

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shot and killed by Israel or
Jew.

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He's like the biggest advocate,
the biggest non Jewish advocate

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for Israel.
Yeah.

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Ever.
Yeah, and so vocal and he has

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such far reach it would it makes
more sense.

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On the youth generation too,
like if Israel has been losing

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the PR war for the last three
years on camp, you know on

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campuses and across like the
youth groups, right.

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He's the only, he's literally
the one of the only advocates

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that's going like from college
campus to college campus

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preaching about Israel or
talking about the positive

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influence of Israel and.
People were saying that he's

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like shifting gears.
Yeah, right.

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That's the claim.
But there is still so much more

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to gain from him being 95%.
Yeah.

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On your page.
Then 5% critical which?

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Is my insanity so dumb?
But also also, we know that I

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found this kid.
He what?

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They found the kid, apparently.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Dude, what do?

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You mean that they're going to
stop being anti?

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They're going.
To no well, of course not, but

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you think that but I mean, I'm
sure the kids not a huge fan of

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Israel.
You know they're doing the 22

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year old I.
Bet you they'll find some way to

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link it back.
Netanyahu, pay this guy to shoot

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to shoot him or they said I
didn't.

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I haven't looked into it so much
but they said that there was

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like a Jewish guy who stopped.
Or yeah, who claimed to be

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claimed to be the shooter first
to like let the guy get away?

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Always a Jewish guy that FS
things up because.

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I don't know, man.
You know what's funny?

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I was talking about college
students about it, and they were

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like, how could the FBI make a
mistake?

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How could the FBI students,
college, high school students

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about this and they're like, how
could the FBI make 2 mistakes on

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like who the guy is?
Like wouldn't like the like

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witnesses like say who it was?
And I'm like, I want to paint

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like a picture.
Like I was like, if I'm 19 to 20

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and Charlie Kirk is coming and
I'm going with my friends and

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hanging out in the back, I'm
probably pretty drunk.

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Like I'm probably pregaming that
like event, you know, and yeah,

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probably.
Weren't sober.

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Yeah, and also, like, you're in
a crowd with thousands of

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people.
He's speaking all of a sudden,

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like like it probably happened
so fast.

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You're not even looking.
You're on your phone, you're

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texting, you're doing whatever
you're with your friends, you're

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talking, you're most of the
people probably weren't

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listening, especially from all
the way back where like these

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camera footages are right?
And then like and then something

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goes off and everyone starts
panicking.

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Who the heck is going to be a
reliable witness as to like who

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the right person?
You know who the?

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People who had videos of this
guy on the roof.

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Beforehand was crazy.
But why and?

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Welcome you.
Yeah, that should be legal.

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What should be illegal?
It should be illegal to take a

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video of someone that is about
to commit a crime commits the

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crime.
But you don't submit that.

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Like you don't give that.
You don't give that tip.

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Interesting.
I don't know if I actually think

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it should be illegal.
I don't know if I didn't think

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it all the way through like the
with potential consequences on

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both ends.
Say something a guy goes on a

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roof in the middle.
Of A and like he's in a slight

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position dude.
He's like, on his stomach like.

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How do you not scream something
like, hey, there's a guy on the

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roof?
Yeah, I think that people are.

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I think that people are afraid
to say things and draw attention

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to themselves.
Do you?

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Because I saw a guy who was
celebrating immediately after he

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got shot.
Well, that was well, yeah, I saw

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that guy too.
I think that one guy is an

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extreme case and I think that
the average, like even myself, I

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was in, I was in it when I was
in Israel for the year.

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I was on a bus and someone left
a bag on the bus and I will

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racial stereotype because it was
an Arab that like I'm like all

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Jewish bus, you know, left a bag
and walked off and then came

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back like a second later
realized I forgot the bag and

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got it right.
But in that like you're scared 5

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seconds that in between I was
genuinely scared and I also did

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absolutely nothing right.
Like I didn't go to the bus

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driver.
I didn't like say, Hey, what's

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going on?
I didn't like make a big deal,

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but like if you see like the
notion of like see something,

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say something doesn't really
exist because we're all in our

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heads about like not wanting to
look like idiots, you know,

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around with everyone around us.
Yeah, better to look like an

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idiot, that would be.
Wrong.

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I know dude, it's easy to say.
Hope.

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I hope that God forbid I'm never
in that situation.

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But I hope, I hope that if I am
ever in that situation, I have

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the the knowledge or the insight
to actually do something that

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OK, maybe I'll be embarrassed
and like I'm wrong.

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But like on the off pants
exactly right as Israel is way

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better about that culturally
than we are.

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Why?
Because they need to no.

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No, no, what like.
About like, oh, because every,

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every, if you go, if you go to
Ben Gurion Airport, you're by

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Tel Aviv.
Every couple of days there's

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some kind of bomb scare, like
someone saying something about

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something going on to the bomb
team, the bomb squad sent there,

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and it's not because there's a
bomb every couple of days

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talking.
About the civilians or you

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talking about the people that
work in the airports?

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I'm talking about this, this the
bombs, the the the security for

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the airport will identify, yeah,
a bag and shut down portions of

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the airport until it's figured
out on a very frequent basis.

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Yeah, right.
And I and part of the reason why

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is I believe, I would imagine is
because they, that part of that

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culture is to actually like be
weary and say something.

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Like they're on high alert.
They're on high alert all the

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time.
That makes sense.

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We're not in high alert all the
time because I you know, because

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we're freaking 5000 miles away
from all our enemies.

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We're comfortable, but not as
this is what I've been thinking

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about.
Like does what?

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So what happens from here?
Like, does it have to hit a

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point of like rock bottom before
people start to get to change?

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Like, what's what's it going to
take in America Change?

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Yeah.
Yeah, We just saw the lead the

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the chick gets stabbed on the
bus.

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Anything and these are happening
in such.

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Dude, I saw the.
Forward amount of.

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You saw the video of her
reaction to happening I.

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Don't watch these.
Videos.

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I don't watch them either.
I watch the video and then I

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yeah, what can you, I know you.
Can you imagine?

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Just mind your own business and
then all of a sudden you just

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realize, oh shit, like I'm just
dead.

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You get stabbed in the jugular.
And then you just like, but

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she's like, and then like, she's
kind of like put her head

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between her arms and just like
fell, you know, And I'm like,

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and like, she knew what was
happening.

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Oh, God, yeah, Dude, you know
what?

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I'm the way that I hope that
it's not going to happen, but

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what I fear is like, and this is
completely baseless, just like

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what I feel like that with my
post on like the like the

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emotional feel of society.
I feel like it all this stuff

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feels like it's trying to invoke
a reaction like this is

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happening to.
It feels like this happening a

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lot, not exclusively, but very
frequently to obviously

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conserve, You know, people are
more on the quote UN quote

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conservative spectrum.
What do you call that?

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Religious or white, You know,
which is so funny because white

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doesn't have to be conservative,
but like, they're just like,

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white has just become.
So people that are white have

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just become so antithetical to
people on the left that they're

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almost grouped that way by
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Like, they're almost like pushed
into that side.

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Yeah.
They're villainized to the point

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where like, you just make that
assumption because the the

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villainization's been going on
for over a decade now.

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Right, You want to talk about
racial profiling or stereotypes?

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Yeah.
Dude, it's the exact opposite.

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It's like, oh, because you're
white, you must be conservative.

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You must have some sort of.
If you're white, in good shape

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and like you wear like regular
clothes, you have to be, yeah,

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it's straight.
You have to be conservative.

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And you're like, what are you
talking about?

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And you're pushing and you're
pushing it.

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And but it's be they're pushed
into that camp, right?

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Like a lot of the people
probably wouldn't even put

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themselves in that camp unless
they were pushed into or or

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forced into it by it's.
True.

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Yeah, they are getting pushed
into that camp.

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Guana peed in the pool.
Is that what happened?

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No.
Could have been dude, did you

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drop the deuce in your pool?
You kidding me?

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What is that?
That's.

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Pretty sure what's happening
right now.

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What's happening dude?
That can't be right, dude.

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Is that an iguana up there?
They're for sure dropping a

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deuce in your pool.
No, they're not, man.

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Yeah, they are.
Keep talking for a minute.

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So Fran right now is checking
out his pool.

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He's just noticing right now
that iguanas are peeing and

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pooping in his pool from a tree
overhead.

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Look, dude, there's the tail
right there.

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Oh my God.
Hey, what the?

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Fuck.
Hilarious.

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And the pool's out of the
bathroom, you see he's hanging

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over the pool, dude.
He doesn't care.

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Also, he's aiming for the pool.
He's aiming for your pool.

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He could have easily gone to
butt over and hit the grass.

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Jesus Christ, man, now I don't
feel.

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As bad when I peed in your pool?
Wow, at least they didn't drop a

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deuce.
Yeah, I do.

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Well, the truth is, I mean, I
started watching the pool guy

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when he comes on Monday to clean
him, like he just like, just

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takes like, what looks like
bleach and just like, just like

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dumps a container in and just
like mixes it and walks away.

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And I'm like, that's it.
That's what you're doing.

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Yeah, that's it.
He.

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He cleans the filter too.
Is that David?

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Yeah.
Still, everyone I know fired him

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except for me.
Kitty fired him.

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No, Kitty's lazy.
He didn't want to get another

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guy, but everyone else I know
fired him.

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Well, to be fair, Pool doesn't
look so bad besides for all the

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leaves.
No, it looks great.

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It looks pretty good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I.
Was great with my new guy.

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So I so, yeah, so I feel I was
telling my, I was actually

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talking to my students about
this and I was saying that.

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Wait, can I cut you off for a
second?

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Sure, dude.
That your students, they know

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Charlie Kirk?
Like, do they see him?

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Do they listen?
Some do, some just heard, heard

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his name and then heard he got
killed.

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Really.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Like go to a bunch of them asked

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me to like see the video.
I'm like dude, I'm not showing a

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15 year old the video of a young
dad getting killed.

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Why?
Like what are you talking about?

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I didn't even watch the video.
I saw the.

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I saw the video from like Ariel.
Yeah.

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And then I saw a screenshot of
my.

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Someone sent me a screenshot of
literally the.

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Shot.
Yeah, in his neck.

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And I'm like, there's no way
that he's surviving it didn't

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you said it nicked, I think.
Was it you or maybe Pacey?

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Who?
Said Nicked.

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But it was.
And then I saw the screenshot.

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I'm like, that's not a Nick.
No, but it hit the IT didn't go

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through his neck.
It like hit like the side.

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They looked like a hole.
Yeah, and I didn't look that

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close, dude, and I didn't get
any screenshots.

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Thank God, dude.
Well.

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Yeah, you're saying?
So their kids wanted to see it.

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I said no, but I also said that
and this is actually I'm

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starting to kind of believe that
and maybe I don't even know what

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I, I, I think I believe that
this is the case that it almost

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feel like it's not just an
attack.

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There's not just an attack on
the West.

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There's a there's an attack on,
on, on relationships and family

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values and life, essentially,
right.

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And like the the trans shooter
the other week that shot up the.

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Christian And I think a step
further, I think it's more it's

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it's an attack on on speech.
You're you killed a guy because

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of what he said.
He didn't go ahead.

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He might have spoken about being
pro-life, right?

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But he never, he never went
ahead and forced anyone to carry

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out a pregnancy, right?
So he's just talking, he's.

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Never actor.
He's not an actor.

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Right, he's talking about ideas
that people disagree with.

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Yeah.
And and, and hopefully making a

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difference, but still, it's from
his, his ideas.

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And I think it, it's worthwhile
mentioning.

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I saw this guy this this rabbi
on on Fox News.

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Did you see him?
Well, in a second, I don't

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remember his name, but dude, it
was such a good parallel.

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He's like Charlie Kirk was the
Avramavino of of our time.

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No, it was very funny, a great
line.

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He'd go.
He'd go.

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Avramavino was the only.
Everyone is throwing their kids

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into volcanoes, sacrificing
their children in a time where

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idolatry is.
Yeah, everywhere.

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And Avraham's the only one.
Avraham's the only one who's

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talking.
And, you know, And you know what

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he does?
He says, come into my tent.

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Yeah, come in.
Let's have a conversation.

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People leave the tent, and
they're like, hey, you know

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what?
That's a good discussion.

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Wow.
Charlie Kirk is the guy who will

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set up shop with a literal tent.
So.

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Hey, let's have a.
Discussion about this and change

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people's minds that way.
Yeah, God saves Avraham though.

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Yeah, but.
Yeah, You know, it's, it's

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heartbreaking.
You know, I hope, I hope that

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this actually causes a step in
the right direction because the

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response could have been like
blind rage that like would have

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led to like catastrophe.
Like what I, I showed actually

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both my students, my students,
the movies, the Joker with the

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Batman with the Joker.
Like he didn't want to like hurt

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the Batman.
He wanted Batman to abandon his

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values.
Like, that's what he wants.

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Like that's what his goal was.
His goal was to get Batman to

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like, break his one rule and to
like, believe that society and

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like what?
Batman is this.

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This is a famous one with Dark
Knight, Yeah, Dark Knight, Heath

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Ledger.
And with the interrogation

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scene, when, when, when Joker
tells Batman not that way, but

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the one that leads to that,
right.

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So where he has to either choose
between Denton, whatever his

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name is, and, and the girl, and
he's like, you're going to have

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to commit murder one way or the
other because you're going to

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choose one life over the other.
So now, Batman, you're a

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murderer, right?
You know, and I'm going to force

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you to abandon you.
I'm going to push you to the

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point that you abandon your
values, right?

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You know, so good.
I love that you show that.

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I did and then I showed them the
scene from the new Spider Man,

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the one with the three like Tony
with Tom Holland, Tobey Maguire

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and and the scene at the end
where he's fighting Andrew

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Garfield's not to leave him out.
Shut up.

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You're the man.
Dude.

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You look remarkably young for a
man in like your mid 40s.

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Something like dude he was
Spider Man like 25 years ago.

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No, not that long.
Ago 15 years ago, 15 years ago.

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Spider Man's like Tobey Barr's
like 65 dude, and he looks so

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your choir looked like a
pedophile in the first Spider

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Man movies dude.
Sorry man.

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Somehow looked 30 as spider man.
Yeah, dude, like Peter Parker's

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like in high school hitting on
like a 14 year old dude, what is

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going on?
But.

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What was the scene that you
showed?

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The scene that I showed them was
at the end when the Green Goblin

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also wanted Tom Holland to kill
him.

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Right?
Yeah.

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And, and Tom Holland is going
nuts.

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And, and what I loved about that
scene in particular was that you

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can see in his body language and
his face that he lost control.

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Like he's not being himself.
You see his veins, I think.

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Yeah, you think it.
I think I remember.

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Between his eyes.
Or his or his head.

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I remember, but I remember.
He's got a blood streak, a

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couple of blood streaks just
from like, fighting.

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Well, that was makeup.
But yeah.

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His acting was the thing that
brought out them.

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And then his face and you've
seen his face and there's a

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moment in his face where you
could see that he's deciding

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that he's going to do this.
Like he's deciding he's going to

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kill Green Goblin, He's going to
become a murderer, right?

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And like he's going to abandon
that like neighborhood spider

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man value and like and he's puts
his arm up and he's about to do

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and Tobey McGuire stops him.
And Tobey Mcguire's face, like

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his eyes just say, like, what
are you doing?

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Like, read, stop for you don't
want to become this.

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And it feels like all this
violence and all this cancelling

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and all this, like her is like
trying to get people to abandon

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their values.
And I feel that way even about

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the people that carry out the
crimes, like like the trans

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shooter.
If you intentional.

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The trans shooter I read like
his part of the video that was

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up was like his notebook and
there's like a four page

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manifesto.
If you actually read the

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manifesto, he sounds sick, lost,
scared and sad.

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Like he doesn't sound like a
hateful villain that wants like

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nothing more than to like like
turn society on his head and

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like an evil plot to like be
like a villain.

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Like he's like, I don't even
know why I'm so angry.

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I don't even know how like
what's going on.

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I know that like I'm getting
poisons from like all around me

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and like, and it's just been
building up for so long and

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like, I don't know, I and I just
have to like go before I go.

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I have to like, I have, I have
this anger.

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I have to like, I have to, I
have to acknowledge this.

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I have to like, do something
about it and like, dude, to live

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in that guy's head for the last
X amount of years, you know,

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that he's probably experiencing
this.

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And I was also thinking, you
know, do we have a legitimate

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loneliness epidemic?
Do you ever listen to Scott

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Galloway talk about it or Diary
of a CEO?

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Only only clips of that, but
yeah, I love, I love both of

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them.
Diary of a CEO.

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I listen to more, but I mean, I
don't, I don't care if I get

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cancelled for this, but
transgenderism was a mental

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illness up until whatever, like
a couple of years ago.

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And then it became an acceptable
thing and thing that was

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celebrated and encouraged.
And now you see it all the time

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for people who are transgender
aren't when they, when they

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transition, it doesn't make them
happier.

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They're not.
They're they're still missing

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that void.
Yeah, so and then they have to,

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I guess, express it in some
other way.

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And then you have people talking
about it like Charlie Kirk, and

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you just keep talking about it,
saying, hey, this is an illness,

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like we have to.
Get did you see the way he spoke

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to the student about it?
There's a video clip.

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I was talking to a student and
she was like, listen, I want you

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to be feel comfortable in your
body and in your skin.

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He's like what I'm asking of
you.

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He's like what you're about to
do is about to be a decision

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that can't go, that you can't go
back on.

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Right, give some context.
Sorry, this trans student,

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apparently he's having debate
with that with with this trans

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student.
Is that a college campus?

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Yeah, or the on a college campus
and.

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And she's talking to him and he
asks her, do you mind if I hear

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your story?
And she says, well, I haven't

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come to my body since like third
grade and like I always knew

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like I and, and he's like, and
were you like I forgot.

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I don't want to like fill in the
lines because I don't remember

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the exact, but the jet.
But what he said at the end was

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the premise of what he was
saying was you have a lot of

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different potential sources of
why you feel this way.

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And the route that you're taking
is going to have a permanent

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consequence where the other
routes don't necessarily have to

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yet.
So before you start making

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decisions that you can't go back
from, start with decisions that

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you could go back with and that
you could feel out and that you

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could say, hey, maybe this
works, maybe it doesn't work.

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But like before, like and, you
know, and like the example

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hypothetically could be like
before you get a tattoo, put one

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of those kid ones on, you know,
for a couple of days, see how

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you like it and then decide, oh,
you'll want this for the rest of

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my life or not, you know, and
like you can always change your

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mind if it with one of those
like Kitty things and you get it

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now, you know, turn on, you
know.

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I haven't heard him say that,
but that's so good.

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And.
Maybe take medication and see

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how you feel These dude, Zach.
A lot of them are medicated.

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My, my three-year old son, I
can't tell how many times he's

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told me something about wearing
nail Polish, being a girl.

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I'm like, you're a boy, dude.
Like.

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And then he gets excited.
I'm a boy.

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And I'm like, yeah.
And you're strong and you're

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fast and you're mean and you're
aggressive.

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And he's like, and he gets
pumped up and he goes, ah, but

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let me climb on your neck.
I'm like, yeah.

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But he also, but he also has an
older sister and a mom that's

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having that, that, that he, that
he's appealing to also, you

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know.
But if I were to encourage him

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and.
Say yeah, yeah, yeah, honey,

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Yeah.
Something else?

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Are you, do you really feel that
way?

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You think I'm going to take it
seriously as a three-year old

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kid, But obviously it could
cause a lot of damage if I did.

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Yeah, I could either build this
kid up and make him into the man

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that he's supposed to be, or I
could really confuse the right.

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And part of what we say is a
parent's job is that the kid

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doesn't know what they're
experiencing.

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No, we don't know what we're
experiencing most of our lives.

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And our brains are developed.
You know, most of the time we

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have a hard enough time trying
to come to terms with like what

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our lives are work and like,
right, Balancing like life and

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being a good husband and being a
dad and being present and being

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part of the community, doing
whatever you're going to do and

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all your responsibilities.
You're like, whoa, like how do I

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sort that?
Imagine you're great.

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Like imagine being 5, like you
can't work this stuff out, you

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know, like.
You mean it's like you saw

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someone in your class that had
nail Polish?

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And like, yeah, that's cool.
My.

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Sister wears nail Polish.
Like, why can't I wear a nail

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Polish?
Right?

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And then you have a
conversation.

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Can I wear a nail Polish?
Yeah, you.

449
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Have a conversation and you have
a conversation.

450
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,040
Seriously.
I mean, I hear.

451
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,240
Yeah.
Yeah.

452
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,000
So, dude, wait, do you want to?
I want to.

453
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,560
Yeah.
I want to finish this at you up

454
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,760
first.
Yeah, I think that.

455
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:27,040
So I think that this is an
attempt to get to get to get

456
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,760
people to betray themselves and
their values.

457
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,520
What's this like, the people
doing these shootings and these

458
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,360
horrific things?
Yeah, I think.

459
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,200
It's intentional, that guy.
No, I don't.

460
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,480
I don't.
Think, I don't know, man.

461
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,920
I I I'm not convinced that these
people are thinking that guy in

462
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,800
the bus is at the range.
I I agree with you, but I don't

463
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,600
I they're not thinking, I don't
think.

464
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,760
And by the way, this is is
happening again.

465
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,560
This is where I think you and I
might disagree on, like the

466
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,480
board stuff.
We're talking about me being on

467
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,080
a board.
I think a lot of this happens

468
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,080
from top down.
Yeah, this guy who stabbed the

469
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,360
girl on the bus, he's been in
prison 14 times.

470
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,920
At a certain point you just say.
That's the judge's fault, and

471
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,760
the judge and.
And who who the judge is at the

472
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,440
top, who likes who, who puts the
judges into power?

473
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,000
I think it's people.
People unfortunately do have

474
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,960
influence when they're on the
board or they're elected

475
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:24,680
representatives.
And like it or not, I think that

476
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,960
that's.
Well, yeah, Mike Benz also goes

477
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,200
pretty deep into not all, not
not to the level that it's like

478
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,400
1 to one ratio of like
craziness, but what he what he

479
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,040
what he pulls up a lot and you
just check out his stuff.

480
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,400
I'll send some of the stuff to
you.

481
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,720
He's amazing.
Is for example, the way that How

482
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,320
does a college become a premier
college?

483
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,520
Premier Yeah.
Public staff, yeah, OK.

484
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,360
How do they do that?
They generally get a lot of

485
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,720
funding and with that funding
and with those grants able to

486
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,960
attract a lot of people that are
doing research and people that

487
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,000
are doing high quality research,
because you have more, you have

488
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,680
more opportunity, you pay them
more and they end up and they

489
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,000
end up attracting, you know, and
then even if there isn't, for

490
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,920
example, unlimited money, all
you need is a couple of people

491
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,760
to create this reputation of you
guys being a great university

492
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,400
for everyone to want to join,
regardless of how much money

493
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,920
you're actually allocated or
making.

494
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,880
Right.
Meaning at a certain point, for

495
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,400
example, students are willing to
go into debt to go to MIT.

496
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,840
How come they're not willing to
go into debt to go to Binghamton

497
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,640
hypothetically, right?
You're like, well, because your

498
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,000
return, you expect an MIT is
going to be great greater you're

499
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,280
having yeah, exposure to right.
So all you have to do is get the

500
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,480
first couple of people.
So he goes, you know, Columbia,

501
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,200
for example, they're journalism
schools apparently top of the

502
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,840
country, you know, like they get
like X amount of proportion,

503
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,160
proportionate funds from the
government relative to the other

504
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,440
colleges that are much higher.
And so the potential influence

505
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,440
that you have on your graduates
that are journalists is going to

506
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,280
be enormous because you're.
Potential influence.

507
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,920
On the on that the government,
that the college and the

508
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,320
government in association with
one another.

509
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,240
Because the government is like.
I'm funding it. $10 million, you

510
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,560
better.
Teach the whole the whole, the

511
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,440
whole fight with Trump and
Harvard is about the fact he's

512
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,920
like, why are we paying for
these kinds of studies and work

513
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,640
to be done?
The government, the taxpayers

514
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,880
should not be paying for these
kind of things.

515
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,880
And the and the and the college
has been saying, well, actually,

516
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,160
the way we became Harvard is by
you giving us this money, right.

517
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,640
So, you know, you want and you
know you and and that's you

518
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,640
want, you know, the, you want
all American institutions to

519
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,360
collapse.
You're going to really take

520
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:34,040
Harvard away from everyone.
You're going to take the Harvard

521
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,920
like that everyone wants for and
like for what?

522
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,320
For like this stupid DEA, you
know, Dei thing like or yeah,

523
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,720
Dei, yeah.
You should take it away.

524
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,520
Well, of course, but the point
is that it's not a once there's

525
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,240
an argument to be made, there's
a lot of, there's a lot of

526
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,360
pushback that could happen,
right?

527
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,040
Trump is cutting a lot of.
Money.

528
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,640
But it's a business and it's run
like a business.

529
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,800
Yeah, and it is.
And I guess business can get

530
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,640
grants.
But my point is that it is top

531
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,280
down too.
Like what you're saying, Like

532
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,280
there are there are political,
there are political influences

533
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,720
on the on, on on.
You know, if you're going to try

534
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,680
to be a judge in Wisconsin and
you're applying and you went to

535
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,760
Harvard or Columbia or NYU,
there are, and then you went to

536
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,680
a local Wisconsin college, who's
getting the job to be the judge?

537
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,000
Right, because the diploma means
more.

538
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,400
From those places, right?
But from those places you're

539
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,640
also getting XY and Z influence
and and associations, right?

540
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,760
So the, so the, so the, so these
judges that are that are letting

541
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:35,160
these criminals go after
10111213 arrests, they're the

542
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,360
ones that obviously have to
answer to this, but it's still a

543
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:40,280
systematic failure that could be
acknowledged.

544
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,320
You just need to answer.
Yeah, the judge should answer

545
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,880
today.
A judge that lets a criminal go

546
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,320
more than three times and then
the guy commits a violent act.

547
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,800
I mean, we have, you have a
halacha like that.

548
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,680
You have Torah like that.
You have an ox that had that,

549
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,720
that if your ox does XY and Z,
if it damages, if it hurts, if

550
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,640
it damages someone's property or
hurts someone, and then you keep

551
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840
the ox and then it does it again
and you keep the ox and it kills

552
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,360
someone.
You're responsible, dude.

553
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,360
Yeah.
And that's an animal.

554
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,840
Forget about a judge with a
human being.

555
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Right.
What a great There's some.

556
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,360
No, it's a good comparison, but
ultimately it's not.

557
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,160
It doesn't end with the judge.
It ends.

558
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,840
It ends higher.
Who's that?

559
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,800
Katanji Brown Jackson.
That was who's that on the

560
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,760
Supreme Court?
They recently added to the

561
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Supreme Court maybe a year or
two ago.

562
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,360
Yeah.
And when they're added, they're

563
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,880
grilled, right.
And what do you think they

564
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,280
grilled her on?
What was the question?

565
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,680
What is the question that
conservatives ask?

566
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520
Conservatives asks Israel.
No, What is a woman?

567
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,120
Oh, really?
Yeah, and they and they grilled

568
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,160
her on it.
What is and this is a smart

569
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,480
person, obviously, but like it's
like so fundamental, but like,

570
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,320
and she slipped up and she can't
answer.

571
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,320
She can't tell you what a woman
is.

572
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,720
And it's just like so telling
that like, OK, you could be

573
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,680
brilliant, but you could have it
so.

574
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,480
Twisted.
Yeah, of course.

575
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,880
You know why?
Because knowledge and

576
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,360
information is amoral.
People are moral or not.

577
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Or I got, you know, so like you
can have all this information,

578
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,120
you could have all this
knowledge and the way that you

579
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:13,680
apply it could be the totally
misconstrued, the wrong way, the

580
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,720
totally immoral way, right?
You know, And that's why I like

581
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,720
humanities, like history is so
subjective.

582
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,240
Yeah, why do you think?
Not to make this into a sheer,

583
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,160
but I'm curious what your
thoughts are and why.

584
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,640
Torah is information, Allah is
information, right?

585
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,360
Jewish law.
So why is it that we can say

586
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,440
that we're moral?
By the way, we just.

587
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,040
Following a law we don't
following.

588
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,520
We don't say that.
We say that actually Torah is

589
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,480
quote UN quote, some like I am
some of it.

590
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,840
It's it could either be an
election for life or, or a

591
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,840
poison, you know, and.
And so what's the?

592
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,280
And it's the, it's the way that
you apply it, right?

593
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,360
There was AI forgot who it was.
And we could, we could like look

594
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,640
it up.
Or another time, Jamie, ask, ask

595
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,160
you know anyone when you get
around.

596
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,360
Jamie to the budget.
Dude, I need a budget first.

597
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520
I'm gonna get a budget all Adam,
but what I'm actually thinking

598
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440
of doing actually Rocco told me
that was your idea that to start

599
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,440
task rabbiting or what's the
work up work up work up work for

600
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,640
my social media for the for the
podcast to.

601
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:20,080
Do.
Shorts, real clips, you know,

602
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,680
like, get some traction.
Yeah.

603
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,680
And she's like, you could like.
And yeah, whatever.

604
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,800
Anyway, so information itself is
amoral.

605
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,200
Oh, yes.
He had a story about this king

606
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:39,360
of Israel that used that we say
brought back idea, you know,

607
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,680
laws that we forgot since the
time that Moshe died.

608
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,320
And he used that information to
convince Binet Israel to or, or

609
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,800
the people of Israel to build
another golden calf in the

610
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,880
actual baseline.
Miktash.

611
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,160
What?
Yeah, that actually happened.

612
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,120
What?
Yeah, dude, get out of here and

613
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:55,920
well, look it up.
Look it up.

614
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,520
What is it called?
I have to look up the guy's

615
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,520
name, but the point is that,
like you're, the level of

616
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,480
knowledge that you have has no
association with whether or not

617
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,960
you're a moral person or not.
Yeah, there's no, I'm going to

618
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,280
look this up right now because.
OK, I'll find it.

619
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,560
I'll find it after I send it to
you and.

620
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,400
Then I'll so interesting I'll
post.

621
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,320
But then what is?
Right.

622
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,040
So the question is, what is it
right rather?

623
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,640
Saying this Shama, but like what
a soul, right soul.

624
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,800
So by the way, and you even have
this from the beginning of the

625
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,560
Torah where you have Avram
Avinu, you have Avram Abraham

626
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,040
and Malkit said it comes to him
after the after the king, with

627
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,480
the after the war with the 5
kings.

628
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,160
He was like the first like World
War at the time and Avram

629
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,800
participated.
All that a World War.

630
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,120
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, it was the entire.

631
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,200
I mean, it was basically an
alliance between the 10 greatest

632
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,640
nations.
The. 5 kings were the only kings

633
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,880
in the world, you think?
Well, no, but I think most of

634
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,800
the world at that time, it was
generally or most of their world

635
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,080
in that time at least was
generally located around the

636
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:06,560
Middle East and Africa and and,
and society was placed around

637
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,560
geographic locations that could
support life like the Nile

638
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,000
River.
So like people would flock to

639
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,640
places that they can that that
could support themselves and

640
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,520
their families, right.
So I'm sure that there weren't

641
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,960
that many like different places
for people to really like, you

642
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,880
have scattered societies and
nomads and stuff like that.

643
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,880
But like, as far as like cities
go, there's, there's not, I

644
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,560
mean, you'd have to have a place
that's big enough for everybody

645
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,800
to be able to kind of like live
on that.

646
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,240
Yeah, societies.
So Abraham goes to war.

647
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,720
So he goes to war and there's a
guy that's Makita is his name.

648
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,560
And Rashi, the most famous
commentator says that he was

649
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:50,200
really Shem Noah's son and Yeti
Shiva, a seminary or school

650
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,360
called the Shiva shame Weaver.
And they they actually studied,

651
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,680
you know, the original Torah,
whatever, like some variation of

652
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,640
Torah, right?
And he and Avram had this face

653
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,800
off and the measures talks about
and the oral law talks about

654
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,760
this face off that they have
where they're both intimidated

655
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,360
by each other because Makita
deck is like this establishment

656
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,840
that like, is the premise for
like the divine word on earth,

657
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,240
right?
And Avram is like this new guy

658
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,960
that's like this young guy
that's running around trying to

659
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,720
like spread this new philosophy
and he's trying to work it out

660
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,480
and he's debating like, you
know, Charlie Kirking it and,

661
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,000
and they finally come and they
meet and they're both, you know,

662
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:35,080
on one hand, you have one way 11
path, which is figuring it out,

663
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,320
like looking forward into the
future and trying to figure out

664
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,080
where you're going to go and
trying to use the word of God to

665
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,960
identify how to explore and, and
make the most of the future.

666
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800
And then you have the
institution that is deeply

667
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,600
rooted in the past, that is
there to support it, that's

668
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960
there to support the foundation
of it, right?

669
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,840
So you have these two.
Two pillars, right?

670
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,880
You have to.
Yeah.

671
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,440
Schools of thought, Exactly.
Right flashing.

672
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,600
And that's why you have like
every society has like, you

673
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640
know, like these like elders
that are like, you know, the

674
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,000
foundations and the principles
of like these societies.

675
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,080
And they and they have the
wisdom and the knowledge and

676
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,000
they have the experience of we
already seeing people behave

677
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,720
like this and do this.
And then you have the youth that

678
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,800
are constantly pushing the
boundaries and trying to

679
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,400
adventure and figure out, is it
OK to go here?

680
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,360
And they say, no, why is it not
OK?

681
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,400
You know, how do you get there?
You know, And there's always a

682
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,680
tension between the two.
And that's really, by the way,

683
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,960
the tension between like,
liberalism and conservatism is

684
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,360
generally like.
How far to push that?

685
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Boundary exactly how far to push
that boundary and conservatism

686
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,840
is a very you know, is a very
clear you know, Jordan Peterson

687
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,240
loves to talk loves to talk
about this.

688
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,800
It's like you have a clear
boundary with conservatism.

689
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:45,360
You know, like Nazis, you know,
like, like anyone.

690
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,080
But you know, as soon as you're
like whites and whites only.

691
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,240
White.
You know, and then you got a

692
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,600
problem and like.
That's true.

693
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,000
But like with liberalism, like
what you know, we have lines and

694
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,120
they keep on getting pushed and
the and, and it's not even that

695
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,760
they shouldn't, these lines
shouldn't get pushed, but we

696
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,160
shouldn't give in every single
time.

697
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,360
Not every time.
Not every boundary needs to be

698
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,320
pushed and not every boundary
should be pushed.

699
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,400
And that's when you have like
people pulling you in.

700
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:21,240
So I don't, I don't really know
that there's a very long answer

701
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:26,920
to get to the point that I don't
know what is like objectively

702
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,800
always going to be the right.
Like there is no way to really

703
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,600
know.
It's always going to be the

704
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,480
objectively right thing to do.
You know, like I don't think

705
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,480
there's always a there's,
there's always a clear right

706
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,480
choice.
This is what the right thing to

707
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,200
do is, and this is not.
But at the very least I think

708
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,880
you need some sort of like a
rule book.

709
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,320
For sure when that's.
And maybe that's where I think

710
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,720
the Liberals lack.
They don't have that like rule

711
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,680
book.
It's all like.

712
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,480
And the rule book kind of
imploded when it became about

713
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,720
peace and love.
And then it's about you're not

714
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,000
tolerant of our peace and love,
so we're not tolerant of you.

715
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,920
That rule book kind of implodes,
right?

716
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,040
You know, like how you going to
do that again?

717
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,400
How you going to How you going
to justify killing Charlie Kirk?

718
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,080
In the name of peace and love,
In the name of tolerance?

719
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,719
Yeah.
It's the same people that

720
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,760
demand, what do you call it,
sensitivities.

721
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,400
Yeah.
So the same people going ahead

722
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,920
and executing.
Yeah, yeah, and, and actually I,

723
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,360
I, I heard this take and I've
been thinking a lot about it

724
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,760
too, along the same line of
trying to get people to put to

725
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,400
break their values.
Is that Eric Weinstein was

726
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,000
talking about October 7th.
I.

727
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,040
Don't know who that is.
He's awesome.

728
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,239
I'll tell you some stuff about
him.

729
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,960
There's two brothers, Brett and
Eric Weinstein.

730
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,880
Brett, a little bit more
conspiratorial.

731
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,280
They're podcasters.
They're both.

732
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,960
Brett is an evolutionary
biologist and Eric is a

733
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,679
mathematician and a physicist
that spent like a career on Wall

734
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:54,239
Street and then like kind of got
into academia and into like

735
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,000
theoretical physics and all this
crazy stuff.

736
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,760
Yeah, they both very impressive,
both brilliant people, both

737
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,160
also, you know, Jew, you know,
proud Jews.

738
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,880
And.
And one of the things that they

739
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,160
were talking about, one of the
things that he was saying was

740
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,520
like, what do you think that
Hamas is trying to accomplish?

741
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,200
Right.
Like the line that like they're

742
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,000
trying to like destroy Israel.
Maybe they want to, but for all

743
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,600
like all practical purposes,
it's not happening, right?

744
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,800
Like Israel has the US backing
it.

745
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,960
They've got technology that's
world's better.

746
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Hamas is building like these
rockets out of like, you know,

747
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:29,720
right, like pipes on the floor
and, and a shower head.

748
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,920
And, you know, I'll try to like,
shoot at Tel Aviv, like, great,

749
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,440
you know, what are you?
Going to do in like.

750
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Right so so what's your so
what's your plan October 7th

751
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,680
like what what what you have to
you must have a game plan.

752
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,240
OK, so his his theory and I and
I think that.

753
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,320
I'll tell you the answer.
I don't care about his theory,

754
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,560
but.
I'll tell you the answer to his

755
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,520
theory is to they they knew
they're not going to win a

756
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,880
physical war, so they could turn
the entire world against Israel

757
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,080
by evoking the most emotional
reaction out of the Israelis.

758
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,480
And just like that little kid,
there's like a like a younger

759
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,160
brother that pisses off the Big
Brother until he beats the crap

760
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,960
out of him and the parent come
and goes, what the heck are you

761
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,360
doing?
You're like, you don't get he

762
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,000
really pissed me off.
You're like, yeah, but look what

763
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,680
you're doing to him and you're
bigger than him and you should

764
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,360
know better.
You know, that is.

765
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,640
I literally tell me that that
exact conversation has not been

766
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,720
happening around the globe for
the last 2 1/2 years.

767
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,680
Yeah, but there's a difference
between murdering and raping

768
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,560
someone than pummeling a kid.
It's not.

769
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,280
Of course, but but and.
Imagine the kid, the little

770
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,320
brother let's say.
Just to use a fair comparison,

771
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,320
little brother took a knife and
chopped off a hand.

772
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,680
So he didn't kill him, he just
chopped off his left hand.

773
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,680
And then you kill it.
That's cause for For what?

774
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,720
Not not destroying him.
OK, right.

775
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,840
Definitely beating the shit out
of him.

776
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,640
OK, right.
So again and and then, but the

777
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,360
point remains the same, which is
there are now varying degrees of

778
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680
appropriate response and the
chances are that you're going to

779
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,600
overreact is relatively high,
extremely high actually, right?

780
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,720
The point is all the same.
What if What if that same little

781
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,080
kid says I'm making it my life's
mission to kill you and.

782
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,280
You'll be like, I can't take
you.

783
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,080
I don't take you seriously
because you're a stupid little

784
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,760
kid and I could just step on you
every single time that you do

785
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,280
anything.
Growing the kid grows.

786
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,960
The kids not growing.
Come on dude.

787
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,880
Dude, we control Israel
controls, you know, the food,

788
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,600
power, water source.
Like, I don't think I don't

789
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,680
think that Hamas or anyone in
Gaza ever seriously had I'm.

790
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,160
Thinking more like that
ideological kid, some

791
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,000
ideological kid is growing.
Even so, there's only there's a

792
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,600
limit to how far ideology gets
you in that kind of world.

793
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,160
It's here.
It's an where is it?

794
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,080
OK, Well, that's another
conversation.

795
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,840
And the way that it's going to
manifest is going to be very

796
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,000
different, right?
Because the way that it's

797
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,080
manifesting in America is a much
more slow, slow burn, slow

798
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,520
trickle where you start to have
institutions not not responding

799
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,920
to crime and then you start to
have universities supporting it.

800
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,120
And then you start to have
educate, but we're not having

801
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,640
but but the skill that's
happening and then you start

802
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,640
implementing.
That war quote UN quote needs

803
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,920
to.
Happen that war needs to.

804
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,520
Right.
It needs to transition from that

805
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,080
war of aggression and missiles
to probably a different type.

806
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,160
Is that what you're saying?
No, that's it's so interesting.

807
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,800
No, that's not what I'm saying.
That's a great point, though.

808
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,320
What I'm saying was that's a
legitimate war because but that

809
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,240
is happening over the like the
implementation.

810
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,400
I, I, the, the, you got the
judges, the universities, the

811
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,560
schools, the, the, the political
system, whatever it is, then

812
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,600
you, the, then you have even the
like, even the freaking fed, I

813
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560
mean like even just our national
deficit, like the people like

814
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,920
the fact that anyone refuses to
just say like it's not a, it's

815
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,800
not a rational conversation to
say we have to stop spending.

816
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,160
It's an emotional conversation
because there is no reason to

817
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,120
assume that we could just keep
on spending the way we are.

818
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400
No one could ever say This is
why it's a good idea.

819
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,360
That does sound rational.
You said it's emotional.

820
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,280
No, it's an emotional choice to
keep on, to keep on spending the

821
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,640
deficit the way that we are.
Oh, because it's irrational.

822
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,200
It's irrational to do that,
Yeah.

823
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,560
It's irrational to to behave the
way that we're acting in almost

824
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,520
every capacity, right?
And then you get 10 million

825
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,600
illegal immigrants moving to our
country and then crime.

826
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,640
And then if and when
hypothetically crime war to

827
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,480
spike or enough incidents were
to happen to cause the nation to

828
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,760
start to attack itself, that's
an attack, that's a war, right?

829
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Like this is like you're seeing
a 50 year strategy being

830
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,560
implemented all at one time,
hypothetically.

831
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,080
So I want to bring this back to
being on a board.

832
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,320
Yeah.
So you don't see the value of

833
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,000
like being in a position where
you're like, hey, maybe we

834
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,320
should instead focus on some
other things right now, Like why

835
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,400
are we not?
Why are we spending?

836
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,160
So why are we getting involved
in so many things?

837
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,840
Why are we like allowing so much
corruption to happen?

838
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,560
You don't think that there's a
value in being in in?

839
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,960
I know, but I don't.
Think that, yeah.

840
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,440
I don't think that having a
board changes anything, really.

841
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,440
Yeah.
The same way that I don't think

842
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,240
having a government to change
anything either.

843
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,680
Literally, you know, the last,
the last 15 years you had,

844
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,280
you're coming back and forth,
Democrat, Republican, Democrat,

845
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,800
Republican.
And it's the same consequences.

846
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,600
Because there's so many bad
people going into it.

847
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,080
Potentially for sure, by the
way.

848
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,200
And then the good, the good ones
like Charlie Kirk and MLK, you

849
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,680
just get shot down.
Can't get too good, dude.

850
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,680
Shit dude, that, that's so dark
my God, you're right.

851
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,840
I know, dude.
Wow.

852
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Yeah, it's a shame.
They just get it's like a movie.

853
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,960
That's why you got to do
podcasts and hide out man the.

854
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Movie that is so crazy.
Dude, everything has been

855
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,160
feeling like a movie, dude.
Joe Rogan keeps saying a little

856
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,680
like, sprinkle it in that we're
in a simulation and I don't

857
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,000
understand it, but slow, like at
first I didn't understand.

858
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,320
It makes so much sense to me.
Slowly, the more I keep hearing

859
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,840
it, I'm like, whoa, that's
weird.

860
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,880
But there's not even any.
It's so funny because all these

861
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,080
ideas have spent.
I've been thinking about this

862
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,560
also.
We this is so we

863
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,600
compartmentalize so much in our
lives.

864
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,200
Like we have our like religious
beliefs.

865
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,880
You know that there's God and
there's Malachian or angels,

866
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,040
whatever.
And you have like whatever.

867
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,400
And then there's like UFOs and
aliens and like, that's

868
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,400
something else.
And like, but like the stories

869
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,440
and the evidence and like the
things that are happening, like

870
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,280
the simulation theory, like why
is simulation so different than

871
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,720
saying God?
Like why is like, right?

872
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,120
Like, why is like saying that
any different than saying

873
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,920
there's a great creator that
programmed into our system, into

874
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,000
our world universe, which has
laws and rules and then can be

875
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,720
periodically broken or these
chance experiences that are like

876
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:37,040
lucky fortunes seem to happen
that are like God's intervention

877
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,640
into things, you know, like
that's that.

878
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,040
Why is that that that sounds
like religion and simulation at

879
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
the same time, you know, or
alien.

880
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,480
I don't know if I was talking to
you about this, but like aliens

881
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,720
in the field.
And like every story in Navi,

882
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:50,880
every story in the prophets was
like these women that are

883
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,320
barren.
And then all of a sudden like

884
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,480
they're in a field praying, but
to God by themselves.

885
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,280
And then an Angel from God comes
down, tells them they're going

886
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,760
to have a baby.
And then nine months later they

887
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,160
give birth and you're like,
dude, that's not like we're OK.

888
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,760
We're like we're saying
different words, but like the

889
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,520
concepts are exactly the same
ideas.

890
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,040
Wow.
Yeah, Joe Rogan is willing to

891
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,000
buy that aliens drop down into a
field and like.

892
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Knock someone up.
Knock someone up?

893
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,240
Yeah.
But he's not willing to make

894
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:22,240
that same jump for like an Angel
meeting someone or a Navi,

895
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,800
right?
And why is that right?

896
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,320
But by the way, because of the
religious association probably,

897
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,600
or dogma or so, yeah.
You know, like you don't want to

898
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,360
like, oh, I believe in like the
Bible, you know, because that

899
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,480
that's there's such a strong
push back to that there's.

900
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,160
Connotation to it.
It's an emotional you're a

901
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,000
religious.
Person.

902
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,760
Yeah, that makes you.
Stupid, right?

903
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,320
Right.
Yeah.

904
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,040
You're religious.
Forget about it, man.

905
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,440
Now it's like, oh, you're into
conspiracies.

906
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,680
Oh, so you're open minded.
You're like, you might have some

907
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,200
faith in you.
Yeah.

908
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,680
And you know what's interesting?
People.

909
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,240
The reason why I think people
take advantage of that is

910
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,800
because just like with
conspiracies and just like with

911
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,680
God, especially if you're
particularly creationist as in

912
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,360
like you, like if you
particularly believe that like

913
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,320
we don't have free will and God
is just making everything

914
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,000
happen, you know, then like
nothing is off the table for how

915
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,960
crazy anything could get right?
Like generally speaking, the

916
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,880
reason why, like if you say
like, for example, like this was

917
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,120
a great example.
Apparently there's an idea that

918
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:23,880
the Hafez Kai maybe said,
someone said a couple 100 years

919
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,240
ago, like seventeen 1800s, that
the final wars of before

920
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,080
Mashiach, before they're dead,
before the redemption, before

921
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,080
whatever the anointed one comes
Messiah Messiah is is going to

922
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,280
be 12 minutes long.
That's the final war and

923
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,040
everyone's like, we don't know
what that means.

924
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,760
Right, it doesn't make sense.
Doesn't make any sense.

925
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,960
And then like that and then that
woman that was going around on

926
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,800
the podcast circuit I forgot
wrote this book about like

927
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,000
nuclear war.
Looks like it's 6 minutes from

928
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,800
Russia or China to America with
a nuke.

929
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,160
So if you're going to talk, so
300 years ago, right, we're

930
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,680
talking about a concept that at
the time felt creationist,

931
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,640
right?
Like, oh, what does that mean?

932
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,200
So God's going to come and like
blow up the war in 12 in 12

933
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,240
minutes, Like, I don't know.
But then also, Fast forward 200

934
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,360
years and we have nuclear
technology or we have, you know,

935
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,240
we have nukes and bombs and
ballistic missiles that

936
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:15,680
literally could end the world in
12 minutes, you know, and you're

937
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,920
like, oh, man, like.
It's like Izzy likes to say the

938
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,880
line of like, we're going to
travel back on the on the wings

939
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,000
of eagles.
Yeah.

940
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,160
It's like does that.
Not travel back where?

941
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,800
Oh, an airplane that looked like
an airplane.

942
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,880
Yeah, yeah.
Yemenis all thought that

943
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,200
Operation Magic Carpet, everyone
thought that an airplane was.

944
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,520
This happened all over the
Middle East, in Africa, in

945
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,760
particularly poor countries when
they had all these big Aleas in

946
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,880
the last like 50-60, seventy
years.

947
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,360
A lot of these third world,
these third world countries

948
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,120
legitimately thought that this
was like Messiah.

949
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,680
Well, maybe it was a smart.
Yeah, they got BB instead.

950
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:05,920
You thought you got so funny.
Tell me about this meditation,

951
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,320
dude.
This not meditation.

952
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,840
This you're.
Going to get it was, I guess it

953
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,120
was a meditate, it was a
retreat.

954
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,480
A retreat, That's the one I was
looking for.

955
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,840
Thank you.
Retreat, I went on.

956
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,000
Yeah, tell me about it.
Maybe I could give you some back

957
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,600
story first.
Yeah, I would love some.

958
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,040
I've never heard of him but Izzy
for my birthday said I would

959
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,440
enjoy I would enjoy this
retreat.

960
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,880
So he bought me this tickets to
this thing months ago and I have

961
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,960
never heard of him.
And even after she bought it I

962
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,000
never looked into it.
So I was going in with no, I

963
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,440
don't even know what the guy
looked like.

964
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,520
What did it look?
Like small I see this old

965
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Australian.
Australian.

966
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,640
Australian nice, mid 50s nice.
Who is his back story is like

967
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,000
he's a Balchuva grew up in was
it?

968
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:58,360
Yeah, he grew up in Australia,
wanted to get into film.

969
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,920
Cool.
And then basically he got into H

970
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,880
but was like 24 years old and it
was already like trying to make

971
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,000
movies.
So he's really into like

972
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,680
production, being professional,
having good music.

973
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,120
He's really into that.
Anyway, so Ravmar texted me that

974
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,560
he was spending a Shabbos at at
like Ravmar's community.

975
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,040
And Ravmar said, Do you want to
come?

976
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,800
Oh, that's how you ended up
there.

977
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,720
You were there for the weekend.
I was there for.

978
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:25,920
And then you can't.
And you went Sunday.

979
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,120
And then I went on his.
Retreat.

980
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,000
He had a lot of exposure to this
dude.

981
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,440
Yeah, so I'm like hearing him
speak Friday night and then I'm

982
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,040
watching, and then and then how?
Do you?

983
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,720
How do you speak?
Very well, very entertaining.

984
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:37,840
He's like an entertaining, got
it.

985
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,240
He's an entertainer.
Like he walks into acting,

986
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,200
screen writing, directing.
Gotcha.

987
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,400
Whatever he went, he they got
him into H because they said if

988
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,480
we could get, if we could get
you a meeting with Steven

989
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,720
Spielberg's if you stay here for
2 two weeks.

990
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,480
No way.
And I don't remember what he

991
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,680
said, like if they got him the
meeting, but I think that

992
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,000
convinced him to stay and then
he just wanted to stay longer.

993
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:06,960
Yeah, so that checks out.
Dude, this guy was so anyways,

994
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,480
so that that was my first
exposure.

995
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,480
Tim was with Shabbos and then on
Sunday was a full day retreat

996
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:18,320
from 9:00 AM to 10:00 PM.
And at this retreat you go in

997
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,640
and you're expecting like, OK,
is this going to be like a weird

998
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,880
like breath work type of
situation?

999
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,080
I'm just going to listen to this
guy and get like into a trance

1000
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,280
or something.
But really he keeps it light and

1001
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,520
entertaining.
He, he knows that people are

1002
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,760
there and aren't comfortable.
So he's, like, cracking jokes

1003
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,920
all the time, but then he guides
you through these meditations

1004
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,640
that are rooted in, let's say,
Kabbalah or Hasidic sources.

1005
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,960
Yeah.
You know, these were people who

1006
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,280
are what?
What would you say 150 years

1007
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,760
ago?
There were like more.

1008
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,040
More.
Yeah, when was the Benish Chai,

1009
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,720
for example?
Because he was like quoting

1010
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:52,360
Benish Chai Baal Shemtov.
Yeah, more than 115, yeah, 150

1011
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,880
years ago.
But I mean, I think the, I think

1012
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,840
the, I think the sources for
meditation goes even further

1013
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,800
back into that.
Oh, yeah, probably.

1014
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,040
But like, these are like sources
he's bringing down.

1015
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,760
He's saying, like these people
would go out to the field and

1016
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,680
what they're writing is like,
they could stay there for three

1017
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,480
hours.
Yeah.

1018
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,080
So 150 years ago, they could
stay there for three hours.

1019
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,960
Maybe today we could stay there
for a couple minutes.

1020
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,600
Yeah, to get into that state for
a couple minutes.

1021
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,000
So that's like his goal, right?
This whole day his goal is to

1022
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,880
get you to like a fraction of
what they claim to have felt or

1023
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,440
have gone through.
OK, and I think he does a pretty

1024
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,080
good job of did you making you
feel like you got it.

1025
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,360
You got a feeling of that
meditative state of the light

1026
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,240
that they're able to see cool.
And it's very.

1027
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,920
How did how did he get you into
that state?

1028
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,840
Oh man, that's going to be a
hard part.

1029
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,440
That's going to be a hard thing
to to.

1030
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,480
Articulate, articulate.
Well, we'll work on it together.

1031
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,560
I think you could do it dude.
He'll say, for example, what is

1032
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,960
like, what is focus?
Right.

1033
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,520
What state of mind are you in
when you come in?

1034
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,120
Like are you?
Skeptical.

1035
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,560
You're just going in.
Oh me personally, I was open

1036
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,600
minded and skeptical.
Yeah, a little bit like, let's

1037
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,120
see what this guy's got to say.
Yeah, OK.

1038
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,160
And, you know, like this is not
stuff that is completely foreign

1039
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,240
to me.
Like I've read like my first

1040
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:08,640
year in Israel, I would read
things Hasidic Masters or Ari

1041
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,920
Kaplan stuff.
Yeah.

1042
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,360
And a reader be like, OK, I
don't understand this, but it's

1043
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,200
kind of entertaining for the 1st
50 pages.

1044
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,000
And then you're like, OK, it's
not, not for me.

1045
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,360
Like it doesn't make sense, but
I know that it, it exists and

1046
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,200
like, cool, right?
So, So what is it?

1047
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,360
He's going to, he's going to
tell you about the, the, the

1048
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,120
name of Hashem, right?
Yud and K and Viv K.

1049
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,640
Yud, K, Viv K.
The name of God.

1050
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,280
Right.
And then you tell you about the

1051
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,480
name, what it represents, and
then kind of like meditating on

1052
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,080
on that name and the Rep.
Thinking about.

1053
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,400
So for example, I think that
name should go inside.

1054
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,600
Yeah, OK, one second I'm saying
what I was going to say we're

1055
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,720
live and what I was going to say
is that name of God you'd K

1056
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:54,840
Vubke, you'd hey Vubhey or
Yahwah in English is generally

1057
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,720
associated because the the way
that in Judaism at least well to

1058
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:01,320
explain it.
You see the name?

1059
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,560
Yeah.
I don't think you're supposed to

1060
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,400
pronounce it in English.
That's why you're not supposed

1061
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,880
to say the J witnesses.
Oh, interesting.

1062
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,120
I don't know.
Fine.

1063
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:17,760
I'm not a fascist man anyway,
it's the different names of God

1064
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,840
that we had are associated with
different attributes or types of

1065
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,120
relationship that we're having
with him.

1066
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,480
So for example, you know when
when personality trait would be

1067
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,000
like the the strict or upset
father at the way that you

1068
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,240
behave as opposed to the kind
mother that would like comfort

1069
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:37,040
you or help you in times of
need.

1070
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,720
So generally speaking, that name
is associated with kindness.

1071
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,120
Can I bet?
What did he tell you to do about

1072
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,280
it?
Was it?

1073
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,000
OK, do you want me to really get
into the meditation thing?

1074
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,000
Sure.
OK, stop me if I'm like rambling

1075
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,960
too much.
But so we know the concept that

1076
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,280
there is this infinite light,
this aura and soph, that God is

1077
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,320
an infinite light and infinite
goodness, right?

1078
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,320
So, and our neshama is our soul
is a piece of that light.

1079
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,000
Part of big cosmic light, right?
So we're supposed to feel our

1080
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,240
soul, right?
And we're supposed to feel that

1081
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:17,920
way.
So his meditation is guiding you

1082
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:23,200
on how to get there the day or
the goal of this is to help you

1083
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,480
try to feel something, to feel
connected to some sort of inner

1084
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,320
light.
And he'll say and he'll so he'll

1085
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,000
teach you like there are focus
techniques, right?

1086
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,920
And a focus technique would be
like meditating on, on the word

1087
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,880
and the association with that
word.

1088
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,080
So he started by saying, OK,
there's a plastic cup.

1089
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,240
Let's see how long you could
focus on a plastic cup before

1090
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:47,760
there's another thought that
pops into your head.

1091
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,440
So everyone close your eyes,
look at this plastic cup, get a

1092
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,320
good look in it, close your eyes
and then raise your hand once

1093
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,880
you stop focusing on plastic
cup.

1094
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,440
So on averages like 6 seconds,
people, people would have a, a

1095
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,880
pop in, right.
So say now so we're going to go

1096
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,120
through this thing and teach us
about about focus and about dos

1097
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,480
and dimion.
But I'm not going to get into

1098
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,000
that makes it relatable.
He says, OK, now that you've

1099
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,520
you've got this skill or now
that you understand the

1100
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:21,120
background, I want you to focus
on five things that have to do

1101
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,640
with like let's say self
respect.

1102
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,040
So he gave us notebooks.
Write down 5 things that come

1103
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,480
into mind when you think self
respect.

1104
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,760
What do you think about what I'm
trying to think about?

1105
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,520
What I even think of?
So he's giving you cleanliness

1106
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:39,240
like.
Eloquence education, self

1107
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:47,240
respect, cleanliness, fitness
education, mental health,

1108
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,440
creativity, self respect and.
Pretty quick.

1109
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,000
So he gave us like a minute on
one, then a minute on 2, and

1110
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,640
then a minute on three, then on
400, on five.

1111
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,600
Think about it.
Get into the zone, right?

1112
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,440
He's telling you.
So you write these things out on

1113
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,080
a paper.
And so now I want you to close

1114
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,160
your eyes and when you have a
thought and think about, think

1115
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,720
about the first thing.
And when you have the thought

1116
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,600
that's coming into your head,
just transition it into the

1117
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,600
second thing that you think that
you associate self respect with.

1118
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,280
So give me an example.
So first.

1119
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,320
So you said creativity, right?
Let's say creativity and working

1120
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,080
out or being fit.
So whatever images come into

1121
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,680
your head when you're thinking
creativity, think about, close

1122
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,200
your eyes and think about that.
Get into the zone of creativity.

1123
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,520
What do you associate that with?
And then when the moment where

1124
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,200
you start to feel like I'm
veering off of creativity, then

1125
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,080
shift into shift into working
out and think about those

1126
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,680
things.
And stay in that zone where

1127
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,160
you're focusing on these things.
And meanwhile you're in your DOS

1128
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,720
is on self respect, right, OK,
your.

1129
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,920
Consciousness.
Your yes, your consciousness.

1130
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,680
That is your intentionality.
So his thing is higher

1131
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,000
consciousness.
Yeah, that's the whole goal of

1132
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,400
this thing.
So your dais is on self respect.

1133
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,040
Your consciousness is on self
respect.

1134
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,800
And your dimion, which is your
imagination, is this

1135
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,200
encompassing circle around your
dais.

1136
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,000
And the the the items inside of
dimion are those are those

1137
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,880
moments fascinating is
creativity.

1138
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,360
And so we did an exercise and he
and he said, OK, now using that

1139
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,920
quote UN quote strategy, let's
just call it a strategy, OK.

1140
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,520
But this is all written.
Strategy.

1141
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:23,480
This is all written out in spawn
that he's quoting first and then

1142
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,640
he'll teach you about the thing,
right?

1143
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,440
So you're like.
Whoa, was talking.

1144
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,160
About this.
Yeah, dude.

1145
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,480
And then and then.
He goes, OK, now I want you to

1146
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,960
close your eyes and let's see
how long you can focus on self

1147
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,640
respect, right?
And you're comparing that to

1148
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,920
just 30 minutes ago where you
couldn't focus for six seconds

1149
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,400
on a cup.
Now you're focusing on this much

1150
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,040
larger thing, which is self
respect.

1151
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,680
And you're meditating on that.
And you know how long people ask

1152
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,680
it for?
7 minutes, wow. 7 minutes before

1153
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,600
the hand started going up.
Wow, now.

1154
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,360
Now he's playing music.
Yeah, of course he's guiding.

1155
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,320
You, he's talking to you, right?
And that's an assist, that's a

1156
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,680
layup, right?
But imagine, imagine doing this

1157
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,680
for a long time.
Yeah, right.

1158
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,520
Without technology, without
being in a forest, without ever,

1159
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,240
ever seen, seen ATV or a screen
and put yourself back 200 years.

1160
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:19,040
Yeah, Dude, you think that they
couldn't focus for two hours?

1161
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,240
For sure dude, seen the field in
the field.

1162
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,920
Just just their thoughts.
They've never had these

1163
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,320
distractions before in their
life.

1164
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,240
Yeah, I'd love it.
Come on, I'd like you.

1165
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,360
Do you think you'd enjoy that?
I don't know.

1166
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,040
I definitely enjoyed this.
Yeah, this was.

1167
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,440
This was 10.
This was 9:00 AM to 10:00 PM.

1168
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,160
No, that's your life.
I enjoyed those moments, but

1169
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,320
he's like the, I don't know if
you've heard this before, it's

1170
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,600
very common to hear that back
then they were able to focus on

1171
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,880
on their dominant for three
hours.

1172
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you're can I tell you a

1173
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,640
story that he said.
It's amazing.

1174
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,520
Sure you want you want to add in
some things.

1175
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,400
No, I'm, I'm, I want to hear.
I want to hear the story.

1176
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:01,720
OK, OK, so he said he's like
this story said about a rabbi.

1177
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,400
By the way, I just wanted to
this guy is not like a like this

1178
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,640
Buddhist guy who by the way
studied Buddhism before this.

1179
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,680
So he is.
But he's not sitting there like

1180
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,000
this.
He's like cracking jokes the

1181
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,240
whole time.
It's like, you know, so he said.

1182
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,760
He's grounded.
Yeah, and he was talking about

1183
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,880
psychedelics the whole time.
He's like, people will get this

1184
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,960
feeling from psychedelics.
And there's an urge for

1185
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,800
psychedelics nowadays because
we're really craving this.

1186
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,880
And this is what ties back into
what you said earlier about

1187
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,880
pushing those boundaries so that
we stay connected.

1188
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,360
That's his pitch.
His pitch is like, we're we're

1189
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,240
going in this direction.
We have it in our arsenal.

1190
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,080
Let's teach it.
And let's use it.

1191
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,960
Yeah, well, I really feel like a
preacher of his.

1192
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,000
I wasn't.
Yeah, but you're doing a great

1193
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,360
job explaining what's happening
right now.

1194
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,920
So, So I'll tell you the story
that he said over.

1195
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,520
It was like, OK.
You'll be happy to have this on

1196
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,520
the record, by the way, I think
because you'll, because I, I

1197
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,640
think that it's hard when, first
of all, you got yourself in the

1198
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,160
zone by starting to talk for the
first hour anyway.

1199
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,600
And then you're getting prompted
by someone that knows the kind

1200
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,040
of questions that I want you to
get out to make it as clear as

1201
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,520
possible, OK, that I'm trying to
assist you with this.

1202
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,200
So that would be fun, Yeah.
OK, well, I want you to.

1203
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,400
I want you to chime in the
field.

1204
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,920
So he says a story and he's like
this the story is set over and

1205
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,360
insert your favorite rabbi,
right?

1206
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,880
Your rabbi is the rabbi.
OK, Your rabbi is time.

1207
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,240
OK, just insert this story.
I don't know who the rabbi was,

1208
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,960
but this is not OK.
So he's like, there's a there's

1209
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,080
a Jew who's growing up and he's
getting and he was not

1210
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,640
affiliated, but he's getting
more religious and he met, he

1211
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,200
met this rabbi.
OK, whoever you have in your

1212
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,240
head now the guy says, hey, I
want to get more religious.

1213
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,680
And the rabbi says, OK, cool.
You know, let's let's teach you

1214
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,360
how to read Hebrew.
So he's like, so they teach him

1215
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,520
how to read Hebrew and he's like
obviously struggling through it,

1216
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,000
through it.
He's learning a new language.

1217
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,080
Meanwhile, they go to dobining
every day, right?

1218
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,640
So while he's learning, he's
singing the Rabbi Dobin for for

1219
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,120
three hours, right.
So the guy, the guy is

1220
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,240
continuing to see this day in
day out until he finally learns

1221
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,800
how to read better and better
and his feel becomes whatever,

1222
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,080
10 minutes.
OK, So he goes, he goes to the

1223
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:15,200
to the Rabbi and he says Rabbi,
like I understand that when when

1224
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,600
I was first starting out, like I
understood why, why your

1225
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,240
davening was only was 3 hours
long because like, you know, I

1226
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,160
was going through the words you
were going right.

1227
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,600
And but now, like, you know how
to read Hebrew, like, and you

1228
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,200
say this, I've been seeing you
say this for a long time, like,

1229
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,200
you know the words, obviously.
So like what?

1230
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,640
He's like, what are you?
What are you not getting?

1231
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,240
Like, it should be 10 minutes
long, basically.

1232
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,360
So the rabbit says, what do you
do?

1233
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,000
He's like, I work.
What do you work?

1234
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,600
He's like, I sell schmatas.
I'm a schmatas salesman, OK?

1235
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,880
Well, well, we're back.
So he goes.

1236
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,440
So he goes.
What are Where do you sell your

1237
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,720
schmatas?
So he goes, Can I continue using

1238
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,160
schmatas?
Sure, that's a great word.

1239
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,160
Well, I saw them in New York,
New Jersey, and then, you know,

1240
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,280
Philly.
Yeah.

1241
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:04,440
Right.
OK.

1242
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,320
Do you sell overseas?
Yeah, sure.

1243
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,760
Where Where overseas?
I I sell them in Mexico.

1244
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,440
OK.
Where else?

1245
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,800
I sell them in Japan.
OK.

1246
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,920
So, so, so while the guy's
saying this, he's writing down

1247
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,120
these these names, the where
does he sell the thing?

1248
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,440
Japan, You know, Mexico, United
States.

1249
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,880
OK, so the kid, so the so the
guy goes here.

1250
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,080
How long does it take you to
travel?

1251
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,320
So he goes, you know, an
airplane takes me, you know,

1252
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,040
whatever, the whole the whole
day just to get there.

1253
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,920
OK, so I'll tell you what I
could, I'll shorten, I'll

1254
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,680
shorten it for you.
Take this paper.

1255
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,200
And he's like, he's like, what
do you want me to do with this?

1256
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,680
He's like, there you go.
I just saved you.

1257
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:54,110
I just saved you days.
Yeah, is it not he's.

1258
00:59:54,110 --> 00:59:58,960
Saying he's like, I, I these are
places you have to go.

1259
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,360
Like you can't just read the
name and sell schmantz like

1260
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,640
that.
So the rabbi goes, the words in

1261
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,960
the sitter aren't just words on
paper, they're places you have

1262
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,480
to go.
Yeah, right.

1263
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,240
So that's why I'm there for
three hours.

1264
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,000
So it's like a mic drop moment.
That's a great answer.

1265
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,600
Dude, you're like, wow, like I'm
OK, all right, so let me get in.

1266
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,360
Let me try to see what that's
about.

1267
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,120
Like let me try to see and get
in that zone.

1268
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,760
So imagine he opens with these
stories and their teachings and,

1269
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,640
you know, like.
You know, there minds, you know,

1270
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,280
I actually thought, I thought
the story is going to go in a

1271
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,400
different, a different
direction.

1272
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,360
There's an awesome story, You
know, the source of prayer, the

1273
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:40,120
Torah, the source dominating is
the beginning of gracious of, of

1274
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,320
Genesis when it's the second.
Yeah, no, not even Adam yet.

1275
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,360
God even create didn't create
Adam and Eve yet.

1276
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,560
It was the basically the first
chapter is this account of

1277
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,200
creation, the famous seven days,
the six days, whatever, 7 days.

1278
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:05,160
And then, and then there's a new
chapter that opens and it begins

1279
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,200
with the story of creation
again, but it tells it

1280
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,040
differently.
And if you look at any Bible,

1281
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,640
any Bible that says this, and at
one point it says that there was

1282
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:20,080
no rain on the ground yet
because man was not yet created

1283
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:25,000
to work right, right, and to
work the land, right.

1284
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,320
And that same commentary we
talked about earlier, Rashi says

1285
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,240
that this is the source of
prayer that God said.

1286
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:39,960
I want man to notice what the
world needs on the man to be the

1287
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,520
voice of the world, the
consciousness of the world and

1288
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,960
say, hey, this tree back here is
really it's not looking great.

1289
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,880
You know, you can really use
some help right now and this you

1290
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,080
know over there that you know
that that that mango tree, you

1291
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,280
know, it needs a little bit less
rain than avocado tree.

1292
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,840
So you know that would be even
better.

1293
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:01,560
And So what the point that it's
trying to bring out was I

1294
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:07,880
believe that men's meant the
purpose of prayer is not just to

1295
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:16,200
request things, but it's to it's
to think through what needs to

1296
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,720
be taken care of in your life,
right?

1297
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,920
Like what how you know.
And that's why we pray for

1298
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,560
different categories of things,
because you're supposed to think

1299
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,040
the steps along the process as
to what each aspect of your life

1300
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,640
needs.
That just gave me a great shot.

1301
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,920
By the way, can I share?
Yes, shot.

1302
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,640
Yeah.
So there's a there's a teaching

1303
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,920
that Adam was able to see me
from one end of the world to the

1304
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:38,680
to the.
Next, Yeah.

1305
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,840
So think about it, this being
the whole world was created for

1306
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:46,280
him based on what you're saying.
You can all be in his awareness.

1307
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,160
Yeah.
Yes, Right.

1308
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,920
Exactly, exactly.
And that's why Moshe had that

1309
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,640
same life, because Moshe or
Moses had the same was was that

1310
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,080
prophet that was like that
close.

1311
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,000
He had like that grand sense of
awareness and consciousness.

1312
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,720
And he also had that same light
that that, that, that that Adam

1313
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:02,920
had.
The Adam had.

1314
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,120
But the point, I think, is that
him.

1315
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,880
Yeah.
I don't know.

1316
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,720
You never heard that?
Where'd you hear that?

1317
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,240
That's famous.
That Moshe had that.

1318
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,560
That the light that was on
Motion's face after after he

1319
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,640
left down from Almoy after Oh
yes, the second time.

1320
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,240
Before he came from Hersing.
I know.

1321
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,680
Yeah, but then he went to Almoy
to put a mask on because, you

1322
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,920
know, could talk to him.
OK, right.

1323
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,000
He wasn't relatable.
He wasn't relatable on an

1324
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,600
individual level.
He had this cosmic, this cosmic

1325
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,760
consciousness.
Dude.

1326
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,640
Imagine spending, imagine also,
but think about this, right?

1327
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,880
Whatever variation you want to
say, state of mind,

1328
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:47,160
psychedelics, spiritual ecstasy,
connection with God, use

1329
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,760
whatever words or state of he
was in.

1330
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,480
Obviously a very separate state
of consciousness and awareness

1331
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,240
for 40 days and 40 nights.
Right.

1332
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,080
And when you return, you don't
relate when you come back to a

1333
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,760
trip, right?
If you take, if you take

1334
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:04,880
mushrooms or you take LSD and
then you go into your KPMG

1335
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,120
office, you'll be like, what is
going on right here?

1336
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,160
You know, like you'll be like, I
can't relate to any of this.

1337
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:15,320
I can't speak to any of these
individual like cogs like that

1338
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,640
are like running around, like,
you know, like this, this quote

1339
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,720
UN quote rat race.
I don't relate to it.

1340
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,120
Like there's a much bigger
picture that I'm like part of

1341
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,400
that.
I, I don't relate to that aspect

1342
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,840
of it.
I think that he was able to

1343
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,000
relate to like once you have
like that kind of like cosmic or

1344
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,160
grand awareness.
And the point of like what

1345
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,680
maturing and growing up is, is
including more in your realm of

1346
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,760
responsibility and awareness,
right?

1347
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,600
You're not just responsible for
yourself now.

1348
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,600
Now you're responsible for your
wife and your kids.

1349
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,840
Now you're responsible as your
parents get older for your

1350
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,880
parents, you know, and, and
their well-being.

1351
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,400
And now you're responsible for
your younger symbols.

1352
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,560
How are they doing?
You know, how are you

1353
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,200
responsible for your
neighborhood and your community?

1354
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,320
And then when you're when now
when you're praying, you don't

1355
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,120
have just the awareness of just
yourself, right?

1356
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,680
You have this enhanced
awareness.

1357
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,800
Will you want will you the world
in mind of your world, which is

1358
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,600
constantly expanding to have to
have what's best for them.

1359
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,560
And the more that your world
expands, the more the more time

1360
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:11,840
you need to really think about
that.

1361
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,920
You know, the more consciousness
you need to be like, listen man,

1362
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,280
like.
Yeah.

1363
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,560
You know, like being a teacher,
right?

1364
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,680
Feels like the same.
Thing so so part of so I love

1365
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,080
that you're saying this because
it's still it's it's leading

1366
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,480
right to something else that he
was saying.

1367
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,040
He's like, I had a conversation
with with a Rob that he

1368
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,280
respected and he was and and at
this point he was already

1369
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,920
learning deeper stuff and he
said, I have a shot in this

1370
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,920
thing, right?
Like he had an explanation on

1371
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:44,000
this esoteric passage.
So he like they discuss it.

1372
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,080
He gives it over to him and then
he says, OK, I need to think

1373
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,480
about that.
He goes, what do you mean?

1374
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,000
We just talked it through.
He's like, yeah, but I want to

1375
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:55,160
think about it.
And then this Danielle Katz was

1376
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,480
like, okay, so he goes, he takes
out a notebook or something and

1377
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,080
pencils in a time to think about
it.

1378
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:05,760
That's like you do that and his
rapper is like, you don't.

1379
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,480
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, like.

1380
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,280
How he's like.
So how often do you spend 5

1381
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,880
minutes like actually
consciously thinking about

1382
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,480
something, right?
I just, I want to start doing

1383
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,880
that by the way, so I really
want to start doing that.

1384
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,160
That's a great idea because I
there's so many things I say I

1385
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,040
want to think about and I never
get to thinking about them.

1386
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:27,840
We'll go on the next retreat
together.

1387
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,560
I don't want to do.
I don't want to do it.

1388
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,120
I'm going to end up like moving.
I'd have an affiliate link.

1389
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,640
I'm just kidding.
So funny dude.

1390
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,120
Yeah.
OK.

1391
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,560
So keep so so anyway, so you so
you're connecting that way

1392
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,880
you're getting to this meditate
I guess more aware, meditative

1393
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,680
kind of.
Oh, that's, I mean, I mean

1394
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,960
that's so that, no, that, I
mean, that's basically it.

1395
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,640
That's like the the retreat.
I mean, it's one day with lunch

1396
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,120
breaks dominating, breaks
thinner.

1397
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,760
Are you, how do you, how do you,
how do you implement this in

1398
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,320
your in your life now?
Right.

1399
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,400
Yeah, exactly.
I don't.

1400
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,240
Know well, I think for starters,
definitely start by thinking

1401
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,280
about by setting aside time to
think about things.

1402
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,680
Bro something is just jumped
into your pool.

1403
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:17,680
I saw a huge splash.
Shout out to Dalton.

1404
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,360
Yeah, dude, sorry about that.
You took a pee break.

1405
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,200
Got some wine that works right
back outside.

1406
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,760
Some good wine.
Red.

1407
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,120
Red wine.
Yeah, Man, I think that we all

1408
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,640
need a lot of this.
I think that we need one of the

1409
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,400
actually the things that gets
more full circle.

1410
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,000
I was thinking of and I was
especially when I was talking to

1411
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,800
my students about like what was
going on because we spoke about

1412
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,120
the trans shooter a couple
weeks, a couple weeks ago too,

1413
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,120
right?
And I was saying, imagine, think

1414
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,120
about this, right?
Most Americans, I think it is a

1415
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,440
huge loneliness epidemic
happening in America.

1416
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,240
Right.
Most Americans don't feel like

1417
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,880
they have.
Do you know people that?

1418
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,120
I do know some people.
Do you really?

1419
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,680
Yeah, I do.
I know actually, as it happens

1420
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,240
to be by the way, that that my,
that my, that my religious

1421
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,040
community around me typically
does not have that issue, but

1422
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,840
it's not always the case, but
typically right, right.

1423
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,640
Anyway, imagine this, right,
You're a regular American kid.

1424
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,960
This could have happened to me
so easily.

1425
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,880
Like my life trajectory, right?
Graduate college 20, end of

1426
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,760
2017, right?
I worked for a couple of years.

1427
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,880
I'm living in Seattle. 2020,
COVID starts, right?

1428
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:35,000
Lockdown start.
Yeah, I, Seattle in particular,

1429
01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:38,240
you know, was pretty strict for
the next two years.

1430
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,439
Can't socialize.
Yeah, Now, I was lucky enough to

1431
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,000
have three friends I was living
with, right?

1432
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,800
But one friend started dating
someone else.

1433
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:46,920
One friend moved back to New
York.

1434
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,000
Another friend moved back to New
York.

1435
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,160
Right now I get an apartment,
right?

1436
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:55,160
I work remote because I do sales
sitting in my apartment by

1437
01:08:55,160 --> 01:09:00,439
myself when I'm not doing sales
on social media, True.

1438
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,120
You know, when I'm not doing
sales, I'm scrolling.

1439
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:05,479
I'm by myself.
I don't have community because

1440
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,040
I'm not Jew.
I, I don't have a huge

1441
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,120
community.
I'm not Jewish.

1442
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,800
I'm not Orthodox.
I'm not going to shul, I'm not

1443
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,279
going to church.
I'm not going to anything right.

1444
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,880
Why not?
I'm just talking about a lot of

1445
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,040
Americans.
I know, but why not?

1446
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,840
Why not go?
To but that's a good question,

1447
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:18,960
right?
You probably should.

1448
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:23,640
I, you know, I don't have more
than 3 or 4 friends.

1449
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:26,600
I'm on Hinge or I'm on all these
other dating apps.

1450
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,520
But like, none of them really
turn into any kind of real

1451
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,720
relationships.
Like, you just, like, match with

1452
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,800
people and then like, you kind
of try texting awkwardly and

1453
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,000
then it stops and like, that's
it, right?

1454
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:43,200
It is super, super, super easy
to go from 2020 to 2025 and end

1455
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,439
up in a very, very dark place.
Yeah, in a really, really dark

1456
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,399
place for a lot of people and I
and people like, and this isn't

1457
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:56,560
just like a, like a random case.
These are like grades at a time.

1458
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:01,000
And schools in Binghamton and
NYU and Maryland where like kids

1459
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,160
are moving to the city got, got
people moving to the city.

1460
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,320
And like, even if you have
roommates in Manhattan, right,

1461
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,680
you got 3 roommates.
One of your roommates works in

1462
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,320
finance.
He's he's only, he's in your,

1463
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:13,440
he's talking to you half an hour
a day. 5 five years, you're

1464
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:14,600
saying the five?
Years.

1465
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:19,280
I'm saying that we have been
prime for like a mental health

1466
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,240
societal breakdown for a long
time.

1467
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,280
Community.
People are not interacting with

1468
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,320
other people.
No one goes to movies, people

1469
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,800
don't go to concerts very often
very much.

1470
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,280
People do not have groups of
friends.

1471
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:33,920
People do not have meaningful
relationships.

1472
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:38,520
People don't have communities,
religious or affiliations, even

1473
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,320
just the value like of having a
rabbi that like you can talk to

1474
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,560
and like a guide, like a God in
your life.

1475
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,440
Where like where the walls feel
like they're caving in and

1476
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:49,120
you're stressed and you don't
know who to talk to.

1477
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,840
And and you can't talk to your
wife because you don't want to

1478
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,600
stress her out about how
stressed out you are.

1479
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,400
And you just call someone and
you just say, I feel like this

1480
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,040
is about to break down and like
to have like a human being on

1481
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,840
the other end of the phone
that's been through that and say

1482
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:08,080
like understand and like maybe
help, maybe not.

1483
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,640
You can talk it out.
You can talk through it, right?

1484
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:14,160
That is such a rare.
Right, it doesn't.

1485
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,440
It doesn't happen to people.
People don't have that.

1486
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:19,480
We take that for granted.
And then when people come out

1487
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,280
and they do crazy acts or they
start acting like lunatics in

1488
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,400
the street or do crazy shit like
shoot up a school or something

1489
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,840
like that, God forbid, a million
times.

1490
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,440
And it doesn't have to even be
that extreme.

1491
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:32,640
But like how many people are
numb to life?

1492
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:37,720
How many people like don't have
any embodied reality at all?

1493
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,600
I can't imagine how many people
on Twitter have seen the video

1494
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,280
that have to post.
Don't watch the video.

1495
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,400
Yeah, I'm like, people are
watching this.

1496
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:49,400
Everyone was watching it.
Everyone.

1497
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:56,040
And but like you like come so
far to like be the voice.

1498
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:00,720
The voice that's drowned out is
the voice that's saying yourself

1499
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:01,880
a favor.
And don't watch the video

1500
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,080
because the default is you're
going to watch the video and

1501
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:08,160
watch someone publicly executed
on your phone in the bathroom

1502
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,760
probably.
You are, yeah.

1503
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,600
And you know what?
There's also, I also think that

1504
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:21,520
there's an actual thing too.
I think that there's, there's

1505
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,880
different.
It's so fascinating because I

1506
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,120
just, Dave Smith actually just
said it today and I thought

1507
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,760
about it and I really think it's
true.

1508
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:35,840
There's like there's almost a
kind of satisfaction about

1509
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,880
self-destructive behavior.
Like, there is a pleasure that

1510
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,160
people get out of
self-destructive behavior where

1511
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,320
you know, what you're doing is
like hurting yourself.

1512
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,560
And, you know, you're like
getting yourself deeper in that

1513
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,560
pit, but you kind of want to put
yourself there.

1514
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,240
I want to look something up for
you because I think you're going

1515
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:53,920
to enjoy it.
You know so.

1516
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:58,400
Yeah, or Danielle Katz is saying
that there are 5 No 10

1517
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,800
principles or like 10 principles
or 8 principles.

1518
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,520
And one of them was like your,
your default state is, is self

1519
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,000
sabotage.
And like, and it is, it is, it's

1520
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,520
like that's, that's what it
means that you're you're.

1521
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:13,880
Because it's your heart.
Is good.

1522
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,800
It's like salt, right?
Like and there's something to

1523
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,760
like soak and you don't, you
almost don't want to admit it.

1524
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,160
Like you don't want to say like
it feels good to like do this

1525
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,720
self-destructive thing.
But why do you think people

1526
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,400
can't help themselves?
I think it's condition.

1527
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,680
I think it's not condition.
I think it's natural.

1528
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,480
I think it's nature.
Like I think it is too.

1529
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,120
It's natural to feel that way.
I think it is too dude.

1530
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,520
If you're getting rained out
again, it's.

1531
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,240
Going to stop so I open the what
do you call it?

1532
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,360
So open the shade more.
Does it go out further?

1533
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,240
Hang.
On I mean, it doesn't really

1534
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,440
help.
It's like Florida raining but.

1535
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,240
If it's like a light drizzle,
it'll it's.

1536
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:47,600
Passing over.
It's all right.

1537
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,240
Yeah, dude.
So I think so.

1538
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,400
I think that I think that the
combination of the two and like

1539
01:13:56,440 --> 01:13:58,600
we're kind of making, it's
funny.

1540
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,000
I also I'm thinking, hang on,
fuck too far.

1541
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,640
Yeah, I was thinking about about
vices, right.

1542
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,720
And like what's like socially
popular in terms of vices,

1543
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:11,320
right?
Because like, this generation is

1544
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,280
really less into alcohol than
like we've ever seen, but like a

1545
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,080
lot more into weed.
Is that true?

1546
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,280
Yeah.
Yeah, Yeah, it is, especially

1547
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,800
among the.
I didn't know that There's just

1548
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,480
been, I just.
There there was a study on.

1549
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,920
Alcohol.
Alcohol has potentially gone

1550
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:29,840
into permanent decline, actually
drop in sales, drop in interest

1551
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,440
and drinking, drop in people
drop in the amount of time that

1552
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:38,360
how frequently people drink and
and how much has just all been

1553
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,360
going down.
I'm sure human had a big part of

1554
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,880
it by the way, and Rogan too.
And like, there's a lot of

1555
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,520
people that like, like
university are just coming out.

1556
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,480
I mean, like, your life would be
better if you didn't drink

1557
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:49,440
alcohol, right?
But I also think that at the end

1558
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:53,520
of the day, we're also like POTS
becoming big and you don't

1559
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,360
really like to drink most of the
time when you're stoned.

1560
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,520
A lot of people don't.
Right.

1561
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,520
So, but I what I thought was
fascinating was like.

1562
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,120
Or maybe you could do more when
you're when you're high, like

1563
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,960
you don't have to stop.
Like if you're a drunk, you

1564
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,840
don't get, you can't do
anything.

1565
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,160
But if you're.
If you're high, you can.

1566
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,640
You can.
Being high was more debilitating

1567
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,120
to me than being drunk.
You can cook when you're high

1568
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,480
like you can't really cook when
you're drunk.

1569
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,320
Fine, but fine.
But short of that, like I would

1570
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:33,840
put me in like I think 9 out of
10, maybe 8 out of 10

1571
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,600
situations, I think I would
probably be more functional

1572
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,600
drunk.
If you're going to pray, yeah,

1573
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:40,680
you're talking about crazy
things.

1574
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:45,000
I can chill or like, I mean, you
know, but I think one of the few

1575
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,920
so whatever.
Yeah, anyway, not important.

1576
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:53,080
So I So what I believe is that
or what I've been like this

1577
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:58,080
theory or this sense that I get
is that this generation is a

1578
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,840
generation so far of loneliness.
And weed is like the seclusion

1579
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,920
drug.
Like weed does not make you want

1580
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,720
to be social for the most part.
Most people I associate smoking

1581
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,880
with watching a movie, watching
TV, scrolling, cooking and

1582
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,560
eating.
But generally like like if I'm

1583
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:21,120
about to go out with friends and
I smoke AJ, like I'm not going

1584
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,960
anywhere, dude.
Like like I'm much less inclined

1585
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,520
to, you know, and alcohol was
much more is much more of like a

1586
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,600
social vice and much more of
like a social lubricant, right.

1587
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,840
And like the culture, even 1015
years ago, like, I don't know

1588
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,560
about you, my friends were
getting internships and like

1589
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,480
college and like starting work.
They had like these like team,

1590
01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:43,240
like, like dinners or happy
hours like every couple of

1591
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,080
weeks.
And like, it was a huge in the

1592
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,960
culture to like, drink together
and like, yeah, get to spend

1593
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,840
time together and like do group
activities.

1594
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,920
Well, COVID wiped that out.
So.

1595
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,280
But then people stopped.
Yeah.

1596
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,080
And then people realized how
much money they were saving and

1597
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,240
how unhealthy it was in that
time.

1598
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,400
And I think that I think that
all that stuff was expensive and

1599
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,000
I think that once they started
cutting it, it's hard to go back

1600
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,440
to uncutting it.
Right, like if you're taking if

1601
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:10,680
I could save $10,000 a month on
rent where I could just hire my

1602
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,160
team remotely?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1603
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,080
Why would I go back to the
$10,000 a month?

1604
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,440
Rent, yeah, yeah, totally.
Or, you know, instead of

1605
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:20,000
spending X amount on client
relationships because you know,

1606
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,440
and we where we sit down and
like have a dinner together and

1607
01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:25,080
I have some wine and dine them.
Over the last three years, it

1608
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,080
became normal to do everything
on zoom.

1609
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,320
And like they still feel loved
because I call because I call

1610
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,120
them once a month.
Like why would I spend, you

1611
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,000
know, 10 grand, 15 grand a
night?

1612
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,840
You know, in these places, if
you know that's tiny, you know

1613
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:39,800
number relative to what they
spend.

1614
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:43,920
There was this SO.
Yeah.

1615
01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:47,360
Yeah, I don't want.
To there was this.

1616
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:55,200
There was this AI generated
voice over from Charlie Kirk.

1617
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:59,920
I was like, it was really insane
the way of like what would

1618
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:02,840
Charlie Kirk say now if you
would, dude?

1619
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:04,280
And it was like you.
Play it?

1620
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:05,160
Are we live?
Play it?

1621
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,640
Why not?
It's not copyrighted I guess,

1622
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,360
right?
I don't think people are coming

1623
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,520
after you yet.
I do.

1624
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,200
Listen to this dude.
It's 1.

1625
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:23,040
Second, you know first, I want
you to know I'm fine, not

1626
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,200
because my body is fine, but
because my soul is secure in

1627
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,680
Christ.
Death is not the end, it's a

1628
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,200
promotion.
Don't waste one second mourning

1629
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,440
me.
I knew the risks of standing up

1630
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:35,800
in this cultural moment, and I
do it all over again.

1631
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,280
Second, do not let this violence
divide us further.

1632
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,440
The enemy wants chaos, fear, and
retaliation.

1633
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,120
Don't give it to them.
Instead, double down on truth,

1634
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,600
double down on courage, double
down on your faith and on your

1635
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,600
families.
That is how you honor me.

1636
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,240
Third, remember this.
America is worth it.

1637
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,000
Free speech is worth it.
Fighting for the unborn, for

1638
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,200
families, for sanity and a
culture gone mad, it is all

1639
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,880
worth it.
So dry your tears, pick up your

1640
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,640
clothes, and get back in the
fight.

1641
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,880
Do it with joy, do it with
strength.

1642
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,560
And never, ever let evil think
at 1:00. 1st that's it.

1643
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,480
Is that dude?
And it was like, so spot on.

1644
01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:19,280
Like what he would say.
Wow man.

1645
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,800
Does that not feel like a
resurrection of the dead?

1646
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,040
Something like that, man.
Holy crap, dude.

1647
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,320
Let's call it here, man.
With the main and everything

1648
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,280
that was good, we call it.
That's a lot of fun, dude.

1649
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:31,040
We doing it?
Wow.