#128: (18+) Dru Cuthbert / A&M Ju Jitsu / Parenting / PTSD and War / Psychedelics

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Welcome to another episode of
Come Together.

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Oh, freaking Beer Journey, where
I started drinking all those

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crazy Ipas and stouts and sours
and stuff like that.

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None of the beer that tastes
like beer.

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Yeah, none.
Of the beer that tastes like

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beer.
Then at a certain point, dude, I

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gained probably 40 lbs from
drinking that shit.

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And then, then at a certain
point I cut it out.

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And then I realized that a, a
stout or IPA could have 350,

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four, 150 calories in it.
And I'm like.

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I had no idea.
Yeah, dude.

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But then these are clean.
These are like a hundred 150

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calories.
These are much lighter.

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Yeah, for sure.
And listen, they're, they're

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beer, they're carbs, you know,
but they're.

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And then he's sick of it at a
certain point.

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But I did.
Coach, I'm so happy you're here,

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man.
I'm happy to be here, man.

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This is going to be great.
This is going to be great, yes.

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Where do you want to start, man?
Do you want to start with?

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Tell me about who you are?
Do you want to talk?

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What do you want to talk about?
I've had so many podcasts or

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just talk about like, oh, I was
in the Marine Corps.

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I did this.
I mean, I could do like a brief

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little intro because you don't.
Do a little brief.

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I just love to.
Ask Coach, right?

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Yeah.
OK, so perfect.

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So my real name is Andrew Nice.
Cuthbert, why'd you do Gru

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instead of Trew?
Because I figured out if if

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people.
Gave me.

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Attention.
All right.

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Yeah, people just started
calling me Drew just growing up.

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And it was like, OK, you can't
give yourself a nickname, but

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you could choose how it's
spelled, right?

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And I was like, OK, well, yeah,
there's nothing that makes me

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have to put Drew, so why am I
going to do it?

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Good for you.
Yeah, I love it, Dru.

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Simple.
Yeah, love it.

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It's great.
Yeah.

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So yeah, my, my name is Andrew
Cuthbert Drew for short.

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Now Drew Phoenix is my alter
ego.

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Is that your poor name?
That's the jiu jitsu name.

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That's the there's a spoken word
poetry that I used to do a lot

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of get.
Out of here, really.

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You did poetry, Really.
Because.

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When I was younger, like, you
know, my dad was in and out my

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life and when he left when I was
in 8th grade, when I felt like I

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was becoming a man. 8th grade.
Yeah.

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Or forced.
I was forced to grow because I

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left.
Yeah, yeah.

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The way I used to get my
emotions out, I just started

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writing one night and I was like
putting words together at that

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time.
It was like very Doctor Seuss

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ish Seuss itch.
Putting words together in a way

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just made me feel like I was
creating some sort of art and it

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made me feel better.
Totally, that's what.

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Express it.
Cathartic, yeah.

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Yeah, without anybody even
telling me, I just, I just

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grabbed the journal one night
and I just started doing it,

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writing about how he made me
feel.

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And then from there, when I
joined the Marine Corps, they

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used to make us do like,
presentations.

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And from that I realized that I
could command the stage.

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Yeah, perform.
Yes, yeah.

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And then I started when when I
came out and I was dealing like

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with a lot of PTSDI realize that
like the same way that it made

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me feel good when I was younger
to write.

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I wrote, started writing.
Because I don't think that goes

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away ever, by the way, like that
once you have like once that's

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like your outlet, like I don't
think that like changes for most

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people, you know?
No.

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And one thing like I need to
really get back into it because

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Miyamoto Musashi, he wrote the
book of Fight Rings.

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Are you familiar with him with
that?

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Book No.
It's a great book.

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Miyamoto Musashi was a famous
Ronan right?

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A samurai who lost his his
master.

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OK, I think you, I think you
were starting to tell me about

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this one time book of five
rings, you said.

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Yeah, book of five rings.
Yeah, but in the very beginning

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of the book is the most profound
thing.

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Like you don't even have to read
the book, you just read the

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sentence.
You're like oh shit, that makes

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sense.
He talks about how he in duels,

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he won like 60 somethings duels,
right.

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And he, he is the one that first
used 2 swords, right?

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167 duels.
And he's like, what I've learned

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in that entire journey of of
killing 67 people is that if you

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just focus on the sword and not
the paintbrush, then you'll

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become imbalanced.
OK.

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And then you got to feel it out.
No, like you can't just train,

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train, train, train, train.
You have to have like an

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artistic outlet, right?
So me the paintbrush.

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Oh, I see, I see, I see.
I see.

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If you just chained by the sword
and not the paintbrush isn't OK,

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Gotcha.
Right.

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You'll find another an emotional
outlet.

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There's some kind of creative
outlet.

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Because then you're just like if
we, if we speak in terms of yin

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and Yang, right?
Like if you're just Yang all the

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time, like you're like the sun,
you're just beating down on

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everything, then there is no
balance.

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You need the yin, you need yin
and Yang.

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Just like men.
We have more testosterone than

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women, but we also have
estrogen.

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Balance us out.
Just like women, they have a

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little bit of testosterone too,
right?

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But they have estrogen.
So our bodies are made-up like

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this.
So he's just like.

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Talking, I think everything's
like that.

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Yeah, everything's like that.
And, and we're just trying to

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find the balance and that's what
everyone struggles with.

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And like, even it's, it's
interesting.

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I was thinking about this as far
as like sobriety goes, because I

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took a month off of drinking a
couple a little while back and

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it was awesome.
Like at first it was tough.

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Like I didn't like, I was just
like, because I drink casually.

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Like I drink like I'll have a
beer at night after I have

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dinner while I'm watching TV or
cleaning the house.

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I just like have a beer I'm
sipping on.

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And so I missed that kind of
having that part of my routine.

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And I was thinking like, and
then after a couple of weeks,

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it's like the truth is like I
don't need alcohol.

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Like I've never like I haven't.
I didn't drink to get drunk in

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years.
You know, like you drink

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casually and like if you happen
to get tipsy, you get tipsy

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great, you know?
But and then I was thinking to

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myself, but like, why GO-1
Extreme or the other?

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Like, why?
Like completely abstain And

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like, why?
And like, yeah, it's good to

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take a month off.
And the truth is I should

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probably do it once a year
anyway, you know, for that sake

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of balance.
But like, the people that

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completely abstain are the
people that typically have the

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hardest time with controlling
themselves to begin with, right?

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I imagine.
You know that reminded me.

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You know how we have a big
recovery community down here?

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Yeah, huge.
And I have, I have issues just

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with the little bit that I know
about it.

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OK.
Because every person that I've

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ever met in recovery, they all
smoke cigarettes.

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Do they?
Yes.

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And the way that they like
greet, the way that they talk

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about themselves, they're like,
Oh, my name is Andrew and I'm an

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alcoholic.
It's an identity.

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Yeah, it's and you know, every
religion talks about how

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powerful the words I am is sure
right.

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It's like you say I am, you're
like commanding your reality,

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like, OK, this is what you are.
So you're going to say you're an

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alcoholic for the rest of your
life.

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For what?
The only people that I've known

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that have gone through that
program, which was I used to be

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part of a group doing the spoken
word, right?

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Yeah.
Our director, his name is Teo.

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Teo went through that program,
but he's never once said I'm an

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alcoholic, right?
He's like, yeah.

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He's like I, I, I, I went
through a, A, right?

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I was in recovery for a little
while and now I just tell me.

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Yeah.
Grant Cardone's another one who

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went through it, but he doesn't.
Does he?

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I didn't know that about him.
Yeah, you see, 'cause he's not

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always like, oh, I'm an
alcoholic, I'm an alcoholic.

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And both of those 2 they did it
start smoking cigarettes like

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all the other people that that
I've.

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Because, yeah, and a lot of
times it's because people are

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shifting one addiction for the
other.

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One of this for the other.
So for the majority of people

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that I've found it that I've met
in recovery, it's like they they

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just trade one addiction to the
other.

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And to me it just didn't make
any sense.

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Yeah, it makes sense.
And I don't know if I'm sure

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they make money, right.
I'm sure the A A programs are

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funded, right?
Mostly they're funded one way or

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the other, right?
Whether it's it's for profit or

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or not non profit, right.
I think by commanding

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everybody's reality to say I am
an alcoholic, it just keeps

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people in the system.
You think so?

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Oh yeah, just like just like in
the medical system, right?

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They're not really going to sell
you cures.

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Right, right, right.
Of course, we'll say there's a

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great line.
I I'll send you the video after

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I'll sell you.
I'll get you prescription plan,

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but not but I won't cure you
like I'll get you like I'll get

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you on a plan, but I'm not going
to actually fix the root of the

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problem.
You know, I'll just keep on

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applying a Band-Aid or keep
giving you Tylenol forever.

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And we see it in the medical
system, right?

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And also I have AI have a
theory.

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OK, I love the thing for a hat.
Theory.

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Let's do it, dude.
Got it.

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I got it.
This is this is the Jewish

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Syndra.
Oh, the reason why the VA

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medical system which is the
veterans medical system is all

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fucked up and people are like oh
they don't do enough for

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veterans blah blah blah.
It was made like that for by

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design.
And the reason why I say this is

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when I'm in, when I was in boot
camp, every Marine that goes

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through boot camp, they tell us
about these amazing Marines that

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have gone through history,
right?

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Oh, this guy got Medal of Honor,
This guy got 2 Medal of Honors,

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right?
And they, they beat that history

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into US.
One of them was Major General

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Smedley Butler.
Yeah.

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Oh, I heard about him.
He wrote up Wars the Racket.

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Where's the racket?
I taught that to my 10th grade,

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10th and 12th graders.
That's why I wanted to come talk

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around veteran's day 'cause I
lost.

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And next time he's talk about
wars, the racket, bring me in.

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OK.
Because I have I have a spoken

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word piece that I made where I
quote him because I'm talking

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shit about the war.
Yeah, right.

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That I participated in.
And I'm like, well, basically I

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said, well, you could listen to
me.

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I mean, you know, I mean, you
could you could be against what

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I'm saying.
But this is Major General Smithy

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Butler's word.
Sure, War is a racket.

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It is, and it always has been,
is possibly the oldest, surely

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the most vicious and easily the
most profitable.

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It's the only racket in which
profits are reckoned in dollars

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and losses in lives, right?
Yeah.

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So next time you talk.
To kick ass line too.

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Oh yeah, kick ass line, dude.
Yeah.

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So the reason why he wrote War
is a racket, I'm not sure if you

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if you're familiar with this,
but the reason why he did that

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is because after World War One,
there was 100,000 angry veterans

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in the country because they
weren't being taken care of, OK.

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And the five richest businessmen
in the country go to Smedley

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Butler and they're like, hey,
Woodrow Wilson is not letting us

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go to war and we need war for
our profits.

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So we want you to lead these
100,000 angry veterans on the

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White House for a coup d'etat so
that you can overthrow the

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government.
You we put you in charge, but we

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just keep going to war.
We keep doing that.

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They.
Said that to Smedley Butler,

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Yeah.
In so many who.

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Said that.
I don't know.

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Whatever it was, I would have
the chain of command.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go.

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Is running the show.
The reason why we're going to

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war with with Venezuela now are
the same, are the same people.

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This scene, yeah.
And, and if you look through our

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history, every war has a profit.
Every single.

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Just point on any spot on the
map and tell me what minerals

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are there.
Tell me what commodities they

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have to think.
All right, you got to give to

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me.
I don't.

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I only think the only war.
I think that we probably should

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have fought world.
War 2.

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World War 2.
Maybe.

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Maybe because it's like we
didn't see those guys going to

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going to Pearl.
Harbor, Yeah.

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Right, it's only 7:00 AM.
Yeah.

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That's a little fishy to me.
That's.

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A little fishy.
Fishy to me.

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It was a little fishy.
And then, yeah, and they turned

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the way the Jews coming, I
think, before that point.

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So they weren't entering for the
sake of like protecting anyone

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in particular.
Because if anything, it should

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have been like, this is what's
happening to the Jews.

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We need to go over there to stop
it straight up, yeah.

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And then working with other all
the other like 25 million people

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died in World War 2.
I'm having someone on next week.

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She emailed me.
She goes.

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I listened to one of your
episodes of the guy that's

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talking about how wars racket.
She's like, I just, Oh yeah,

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somebody.
Else talked about it.

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Oh, dude, I'm going to say I'm
going to give you his book.

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It's going to blow your mind.
She's like, I've been do I'm

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Chinese.
I believe she's Chinese.

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And she's like, I've been
studying the history of China

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and Japan in World War 2.
No one knows about that.

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And I'm like, how come no one
knows about that?

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Yeah, you know that, right?
She's like, it was, it was it

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was classified until like 10-15
years after the war.

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All the war crimes that we were
associated with with Japan,

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we're all classified.
And that's why it was like taken

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out of like the history, the
history book cycle.

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And and we're doing a podcast
together.

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She's going to talk.
She's I'm like, listen, just

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give me a class.
Like I'm just going to listen

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and ask you questions and you're
just going to tell me

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everything, you know, because I
beautiful.

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It's going to be sick.
Hell yeah.

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I'm really excited about that
one.

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Yeah, definitely.
So anyway, so.

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OK.
So, so, so, so, so finish, so,

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so the capital.
So Smedley said you guys can go

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fuck yourself, right?
And he wrote it as a.

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Referee or he died shortly
after.

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I don't know if they killed him.
I think he's he just spent the

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rest of his days just.
He died young.

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He died right after World,
right?

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Either right before World War 2
started or right after World.

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War 2 started though.
At that point we can look it up,

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but.
We're talking about a man who

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who who won two medal of honours
and spent 30 years in the Marine

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Corps.
He couldn't have been that

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young.
He died.

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What was it, 60s?
Oh no.

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He was older when he was born in
1881 and died in 1940.

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Yeah, right.
He lived the full life.

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He was 58, dude. 58.
He was 58.

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What he did in his life bro.
Most people don't.

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Do that.
Live to talk about the first

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Medal of Honor.
This my forgot 2.

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Yeah.
What does need to get that do

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you know?
It's usually something that you

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go above and beyond yourself to
save.

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So like self sacrificing
opportunity to self sacrifice

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and you made it out.
Like, a lot of people get the

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Medal of Honor from jumping on
grenades, right?

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Right.
That's like, for sure.

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Now, do people think like, oh
shit, I'm going to get the Medal

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of Honor?
No, but one thing that they

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teach you, they, they they
really preach in the military is

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taking care of the person to the
left and the right of you.

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They're like, God, corn country
don't mean shit in a foxhole,

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right?
It's all about the Marine to the

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left and the right of you.
And you guys better bring each

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other back home, right?
That's how we function.

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So boom, Smedley says go fuck
yourself.

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And he starts, he starts talking
about, you know, wars, a racket.

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And that's what he spent the
rest of his days doing.

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All right, now, if you think
about it, going back to the

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conversation we talked about
earlier, right, there's no

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profit in healing, right?
There's only profit in sick

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patients.
So now you have these veterans

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who, when they're young and
impressionable, we send them off

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to war.
Yeah.

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Easily propagandize.
But now when they start getting

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into their mid 20s and they
start asking questions.

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And they and they want to have
families.

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They want to know why they're
going to war.

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They want to know what the
purpose is a little bit more

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because you're thinking more
about a bigger picture of your

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life than just let's go get
those.

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Apps those, those towel heads.
Yeah, yeah.

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Whatever you want to call them,
whatever.

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Gooks in in Vietnam?
What?

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Are they going to call the
people in Venezuela now?

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Yeah, whatever.
It is, yeah.

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You just love the train of
thought.

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No, it's OK.
You're saying that there's no

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money in it.
There's no money.

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You have all.
These angry veterans with war

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experience that are no longer
young and impressionable.

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If we, if we offered a cure, if
America offered a cure to these

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veterans, like, like adept
hospital systems, staff and a

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lot of resources, Right.
A big old budget, yeah.

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If that was offered to veterans
and there was actually curing

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veterans, like actually going
through the proper process to

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get over post traumatic stress
for us to get over all of our

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physical injuries, you're going
to have a bunch of healed angry

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veterans at the government,
right.

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So who better to group together
to go try to overthrow the, the,

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the government?
Yeah.

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It would be the better people
like me, yeah, but I'm sure I'm

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on some FBI watch list I have.
You think so?

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Bro I.
Have to be.

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Because you came back from war
and now you're and now, now

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what?
But you don't do anything off

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the, you don't do anything on
the radar.

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I don't right, but I spent a lot
of time doing the spoken word

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right.
I have I, I, I spent a little

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while blowing up my social media
presence.

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So if they so if they see in a
little bit.

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Yeah.
You know what I mean?

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Like, yeah, yeah.
But also, I think all of the

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Post 911 veterans have to be on
some sort of like, keep an eye

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on us, right?
Because they wouldn't let, they

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can't let us band together,
right?

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Because there would be a
problem.

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We know all the weapons systems,
we know how to work together and

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most of us have experience,
right?

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So we would be the ones to call.
That's fascinating.

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So if they.
Keep us if they keep putting the

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band aids on us and keep us
going back to the VA trying to

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get help, trying to get help.
Oh, we're not getting help fast

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enough.
Oh, poor, poor my poor little

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veteran.
And then the culture, right?

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What they, what they embedded in
society is like, oh, these guys

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went to war for you.
You have to thank them for their

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service.
Yes, because we have freedom

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because of these guys, which is
total bullshit.

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Yeah.
You think so?

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Bro I wouldn't be having this
conversation with you if like

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the the tone of this
conversation wouldn't be like

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this unless.
Like if we if it was, if it was

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for you wouldn't be talking like
this exactly.

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If it was another uniformed army
on the other side, yeah, Right.

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And it's US uniform.
Yeah.

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Military uniform versus uniform,
Military age male versus

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military age male pro.
I'll be like, yo, we're fucking

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fighting for freedom.
Fuck everything else.

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I don't care what I experienced.
Yeah, TST, go fuck yourself.

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That's how I would be speaking.
Right.

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Instead, I'm sitting here in
front of you saying, dog, you

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know what I experienced in Iraq?
Moral injury.

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Because these people that I was
fighting look like me.

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Right.
Right.

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They looked like, you know, if,
if there was, if, if China was

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in Humvees right now on our
neighborhood streets.

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And they're shooting at us.
And they're just just around

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thinking that they're the boss
of of this country.

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And, and people will come up to
us and be like, hey, guys, you

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want to start planting some
roadside bombs to get rid of

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these mother fuckers?
Yeah.

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Yes, easy, yeah.
You want to start fighting these

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guys?
Yes.

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You want to be insurgents?
Absolutely.

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Let's get them the fuck out of
our country, right?

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Because what are they doing
here?

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We didn't even do at 9:11.
Right.

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Iraq had nothing to do, no.
No, no, Iraq had a lot of oil.

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You're going to you're going to
you're going to love this book.

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I'm going to give you dude yeah,
you're going to lose your mind.

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Yeah, he's yeah, it's it's scary
dude, and I've becoming and I'm

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becoming more and more anti war
judge based on me.

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Another one of those let.
Me see.

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Let me see if I can light it
with this.

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Dude, I'm, and I, I mean, I, I,
you know, I haven't talked a ton

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about this, but like, I'm pretty
anti the Israel, you know,

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military industrial complex
because there is absolutely a

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huge one there, dude.
And it's the same shit.

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And you know what, the same
veterans like you, you know,

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many kids there are, are
traumatized, you know, and, and

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the problem, and I mean, the
only thing that I, the reason

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why I typically keep my mouth
shut is because I don't like,

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we've gotten attacked on
American land twice in our like,

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our history, you know, and like
we had, we spent 80 years of war

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because of that essentially, or
100 years of war almost because

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of that.
So, like, I don't know what it's

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like to, like, be in a country
where our borders are, by the

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way, for everyone, like everyone
in Europe and Russia and China

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and the Middle East, they're all
upping each other's, you know,

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up each other asses, you know,
And I don't know what it's like

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to do to be like that.
You know, I mean, we never go to

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war with Mexico.
If Trump really cared about

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fentanyl and cared about the
drug overdoses, we'd say shut,

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shut the cartels down.
You know, like, that's where you

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start.
Yeah.

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You know, start with Venezuela.
What do you do with Venezuela?

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Yeah, that's why I, like, I
heard like rumblings of like

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going war with the cartel.
I'm like, OK, that makes sense.

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Yeah, but you know, that's a,
that's a real war.

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Yeah, that's a real.
That's like, that's like not

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like an America bullying another
small country war.

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That's like a war.
That's like a war.

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That's a real war.
OK, see now let me let me go

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fight in a war like that.
Let me feel honourable about the

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service because I know if I go
after people in the drug cartel

452
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,280
then that's an actual enemy
that's affecting the United.

453
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,320
States sure, sure.
Right.

454
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,920
But it's, it's not, it's we.
We're fighting who?

455
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,880
Well, what do we spend 20 years
in Iraq, 2020 years in Iraq and

456
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,240
Afghanistan just to turn around
like there's nothing?

457
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,320
All I have, really, all I have
from that is a bunch of dead

458
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,680
friends, Yeah.
And a bunch of fellow Marines

459
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,000
that.
And and by the way,

460
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,880
economically, we're crumbling
because of.

461
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,040
It and that veteran suicide.
Rate insane.

462
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,400
I heard now it's 44.
When I was like, it really in

463
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,640
it, it was like 22.
That's crazy, but it makes

464
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,400
sense.
Yeah.

465
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,920
Because the number one symptom
of post traumatic stress is

466
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,640
depression.
Every antidepressant has a black

467
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,720
box warning saying that suicidal
ideation is a possible side.

468
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,320
Sure, sure.
Right.

469
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,440
So it's like you put two and two
together.

470
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,640
The pills are causing yeah the
fucking.

471
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,200
Yeah, suicides.
At least that's one of the

472
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,560
causes.
I'm sure the lack of purpose is

473
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,760
is another cause because also.
Whether the guilt again, because

474
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,240
what you're saying the more the
more injury you're walking

475
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,120
around and you're fighting
civilian, you're you know,

476
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,040
you're racking ransacking
civilian homes and like you're

477
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,960
not fighting people in uniform
necessary.

478
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,920
I mean, I don't know if the do
you think you think the rates

479
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,280
different for soldiers that are
in combat with other soldiers as

480
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,520
opposed to soldiers that are
riding through town just like

481
00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:42,440
demolishing towns or whatever?
OK, because.

482
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,840
You said if you feel morally
different about it, right?

483
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,200
OK, but this is this is this is
this is interesting.

484
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,320
I'm glad you asked this
question.

485
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:55,760
Statistically, the people who
are in non infantry jobs

486
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,240
experience most more post
traumatic stress than the ones

487
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,680
that are actually in infantry.
Really.

488
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,160
Because if you sign up for into
infantry, yeah, your job is to

489
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,920
fight and kill.
That's it, right.

490
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,800
So once you do it, it's like you
you have a less tendency to have

491
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,720
PTSD because you signed up for
it.

492
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,920
Whereas like me, when I first
went in, I was trying to avoid

493
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,440
the war.
When I started training for it,

494
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,080
I actually embraced it.
Yeah.

495
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,040
Because it's like.
What changed?

496
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:32,080
Bro, so when I when I got in, I
signed up to be communications

497
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,720
so I was a radio man Cool radio
man.

498
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,800
They need an every single unit
in the Marine Corps.

499
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,240
Infantry is one of them.
But I went to an artillery unit,

500
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,920
right.
Artillery is, you know, big gun,

501
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,040
go boom, right.
But from far away.

502
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,960
Yeah, Right.
Yeah.

503
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,560
So, so.
But the problem is, is that they

504
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,440
only need one artillery unit
because it's like artillery

505
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,560
could shoot from very far away,
right?

506
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,640
If I'm on the ground as a calm
guy and we need artillery

507
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,360
because these guys are like
shooting at us from this

508
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,360
building.
And we could, we could tell like

509
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:09,840
it's most mostly enemies in
there.

510
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,840
Like we need like we're getting
like ambushed and like we're

511
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,920
under fire And we need you guys
to clear out that building over

512
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,040
there.
We need you to blast it.

513
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,880
All right.
I called to the Florida Obser,

514
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,960
Yo, hey, we need artillery at
this place.

515
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,200
And like there's like a way to
do it right That's very formal

516
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,640
or it's called a nine line.
Like we, you know, we call it in

517
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,800
over the radio.
Bureaucratic.

518
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,200
Yeah, it, well, it's, it's very
systematic.

519
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,680
OK, systematic.
Hey, we need, we need artillery

520
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,800
at these coordinates, right?
We're taking an enemy fire from

521
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,200
here.
We need artillery here.

522
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,680
You call, there's, there's like
a guy in the middle called a

523
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,840
forward observer who's like on
the hills, let's say.

524
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,240
So you call to a forward
observer of server calls to the

525
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,280
artillery unit that's back on
base.

526
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,440
And then artillery unit fucking
sends rounds.

527
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,000
And they communicate with one
another fast enough to be

528
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,560
effective.
Cool.

529
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,920
Granted, you need Artie, right?
Yeah, you're being that you're

530
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,480
like hunkered down.
Yeah, OK, you're shooting,

531
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,000
getting shot at, but you're like
behind cover.

532
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,280
You're like, we need artillery
or air support or if you're if

533
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,320
you're close enough to the
water, naval gunfire.

534
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,320
OK, there's all these things you
could call in.

535
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,840
Yeah, right.
If you call in artillery, you

536
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,280
know, you call back to baseball
and they shoot.

537
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,640
You don't need multiple
artillery units at.

538
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,040
Right, right.
Yeah.

539
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,320
So if you don't need artillery,
right, and you're in an

540
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,640
artillery unit, then they
usually like make you something

541
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,000
else because they say that every
Marine is a Rifleman first.

542
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,920
OK?
So what they did with us is they

543
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,800
said, OK, these people need
protecting.

544
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,280
This Colonel, this general, this
person, this person, you guys

545
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,560
are an artillery unit that we do
not need right now, right?

546
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,440
But we, you guys are going to
deploy.

547
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,600
So we're going to take, we're
going to split you guys up and

548
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,840
we're going to make you personal
security details.

549
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,640
Cool.
So the six months before I went

550
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,000
to Iraq, we learned how to shoot
pistols.

551
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,320
We did every high speed infantry
course in Camp Lejeune, NC Cool.

552
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,040
We trained like we were
infantrymen and the more we

553
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,880
trained for it and they got us
into the mentality of just like

554
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,840
going to war, we're going to go
fight, we're going to go fight,

555
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,160
blah, blah.
That made me like it.

556
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,520
Like I felt like a Marine.
Yeah, you know, cuz I, I, I

557
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,720
didn't really have very
impactful male role models

558
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,160
growing up.
So this is my first time being

559
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,440
around them consistently.
And they're saying, let's go

560
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,800
fight and we're training and
we're training hard and we're

561
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,800
fucking Marines.
Yeah.

562
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,480
So that's what switched it for
me.

563
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,960
It's like, oh shit, I don't want
to go.

564
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,680
Fight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

565
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,520
All right.
How old are you at this point?

566
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:44,520
19 was. 19 right?
Jesus dude 19. 19.

567
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,600
Wow, what do you like it?
What do you like in 19?

568
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240
A fucking idiot.
I'm a 19 year old.

569
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,800
An idiot trusted with a gun in a
foreign country.

570
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,640
Loaded gun.
Yeah, dude.

571
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,840
Guns.
Guns.

572
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,720
No people.
Guns.

573
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,320
Yeah, Yeah.
And you don't.

574
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,320
Speak the language.
You don't.

575
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,280
You don't do anything dude.
No crazy.

576
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,280
Yeah, insane.
Crazy.

577
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,480
Like thinking back on it like
that's an experience I'll never

578
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,800
have again.
Yeah.

579
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:14,800
Right, my job.
I'm getting paid for this.

580
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,120
Yeah.
To go run around the country, to

581
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,520
be trusted enough to know when
to shoot, when not to shoot.

582
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,840
Yeah, it's insane.
And you think 19's too young?

583
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,280
I think it could mature you.
And I think it could mature you

584
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,440
the the sense of responsibility.
No, for sure.

585
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:40,920
I don't think 19's too young.
I think how do I say it, because

586
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,360
I had a good, I had a good
answer.

587
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,320
I think that if you're going to
have a standard where you

588
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,880
believe that a 19 year old is
responsible enough to go to war,

589
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,200
yeah.
And know and and be responsible

590
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,240
enough to say I'm going to kill
or not kill.

591
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,560
Another person, Yeah.
Right, then we should be able to

592
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,120
drink, hold the standard across
the board.

593
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,080
Right, so you're saying the
inconsistency is not cool?

594
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,320
No, right, Because think about
it.

595
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:17,000
At 19, yeah.
At 19.

596
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:20,960
So at 19 I can do all that stuff
I just mentioned.

597
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,760
Can I buy a beer?
No, you can't vote.

598
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,160
I can't.
You can vote.

599
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:26,240
Oh, yes, you can.
I'm sorry.

600
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,240
Yes, I'm sorry.
Yes.

601
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,600
But right now you can't buy.
You can't buy tobacco either,

602
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,760
no.
So in those countries you can

603
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,320
they're going to send you in a
country where you're easy have

604
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,360
to drink there, you don't have
to buy tobacco there.

605
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,480
You.
Don't do it.

606
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,840
You can't.
You can't when you're there, you

607
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,320
can't like go off base and go,
It's not like Vietnam.

608
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,200
We're like Vietnam.
You go to go to South South

609
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840
Vietnam and like, you know, you
could go like into the city and

610
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,480
like go get.
Dude, our buddy bought our

611
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Dalton, partied hard in Korea,
as you said, South Korea, yeah.

612
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,400
That's Korea we're talking about
a war zone.

613
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,160
Yeah, Korea wasn't a war.
Zone No.

614
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,840
North Korea, Korea's nothing
worth.

615
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,320
It no.
North Korea probably is, but we

616
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,440
don't go into North Korea.
We just stand at the line like

617
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,600
looking across the make.
Sure, everything's right.

618
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,120
Yeah, sure.
So yeah, that's.

619
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,480
So 19 year olds should be
consistently treated like adults

620
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,520
across the board.
Well, it's like, it's like if

621
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,200
you're in the military and they
and they give you that level of

622
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,520
trust, yeah, then it should be
across the board.

623
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Because it's not like I wanted
to go drink myself retarded even

624
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,520
though I did.
Yeah, OK.

625
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,080
But it's like I should have been
afforded the opportunity, like

626
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,680
to say that, well, if we were,
if you're responsible enough to

627
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,080
do this, then you can do that
too.

628
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Yeah, for sure.
Maybe it would have took away

629
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,240
the, like, what's it called?
Like, Like, oh, don't push the

630
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,280
big red button, whatever that's
called.

631
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,440
OK, Right.
It's like, don't give me a big

632
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,200
red button.
Yeah.

633
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,200
Just say, oh, it's a button.
You can press it if you want.

634
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It would have made me not get

635
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,680
probably get into alcoholism so
much that I struggle with in the

636
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,080
Marine Corps because it's like,
I can't drink.

637
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,120
So it's like, I want to drink.
Yeah.

638
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Of course.
So you want like casual exposure

639
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,440
to that.
It's not a big deal so that it's

640
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,800
not something you feel like you
have to abuse.

641
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,600
Yeah.
And I think that's good for the.

642
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,400
I think that's good for human
behavior.

643
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Yeah.
Like, for example, I have guns

644
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,040
in the house.
OK.

645
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,040
I remember when me and my cousin
found my uncle's gun and we were

646
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,840
like, Oh my God, it's a gun.
Yeah.

647
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,440
Yeah, yeah.
Why am I going to do that to my

648
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,720
kids?
So what do you?

649
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,960
Do bro, I take the weapon out of
the out of the thing wherever I

650
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,120
have it.
I unload, I show clear, right?

651
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Hey, guys, you see there's no
bullets in here.

652
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Boom, close it.
All right?

653
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,640
What are the weapon safety
rules?

654
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Yeah, right.
And there's treat.

655
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,560
Never keep.
Keep.

656
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,480
My 6 year old tell me treat,
treat, never keep, keep.

657
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,400
Treat every weapon as if it were
loaded.

658
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160
Never point your weapon at
anything you do not intend to

659
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,920
shoot.
Keep your weapon on safe until

660
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,040
you intend to fire, and then
keep your no, keep your fingers

661
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,400
straighten off the trigger until
you intend to fire, and then

662
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,440
keep your weapon on safe until
you're ready to fire.

663
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,480
Right, right.
For safety rules.

664
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,600
They taught me that as a Marine.
I teach my 6 year old.

665
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,640
Yeah.
Right.

666
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,760
I teach them that and I'm like,
what is a gun?

667
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,320
A tool?
A tool for what?

668
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,360
self-defense.
Sure.

669
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,640
When do you use it?
When you feel like your life is

670
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,400
in danger.
Yeah.

671
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,760
If somebody breaks into this
house, Yep.

672
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,960
Somebody's getting shot.
Yep.

673
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,480
Straight up.
So like, I tell them about it, I

674
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,040
let them touch it.
Right.

675
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,000
As soon as you're old enough,
I'll take you to the range

676
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,400
'cause I'm demystifying it,
sure.

677
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200
So it doesn't seem cool.
I don't want my kids to have the

678
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,840
same experience that I had when.
I was a kid.

679
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Fascinating.
Fascinating.

680
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,880
Fascinated about it.
Yeah, I I have my gum with me in

681
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,880
my bag.
My my son's like do you have

682
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,000
your got 45?
Granted, if he told his teacher

683
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,200
this seemed not to be concerned
right?

684
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,520
But fuck the teacher.
You know what?

685
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,640
I mean like.
I do this because this is how

686
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,280
I'm choosing to parent and as
you're right, it's my right.

687
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,680
Totally.
I could teach my kids about

688
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,000
weapons.
They're not going to be so.

689
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,200
Oh my God, it's demystified.
They don't give a fuck about the

690
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,400
what?
Yeah, Yeah, yeah.

691
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:56,880
That's.
Great.

692
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,720
It's the same principle.
What else?

693
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,240
What else have you implemented
that like with raising your kids

694
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,840
that like you didn't have but
like you, you think is

695
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,560
important?
Like important enough to like

696
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,120
that you want to implement it in
your own life?

697
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,200
So I'll start from from baby
stuff like where your how old is

698
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,640
your daughter?
She's seven months.

699
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,280
OK, What I would do with her
right now is every time she

700
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,000
messes up a diaper, have like
you'd clean it up, right?

701
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,960
You put it in a bag.
I don't know if you used a

702
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,920
disposable diaper, do you?
No, you tossing.

703
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,400
Out are you tossing out?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

704
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,480
OK.
Put it in a bag, tie it up, give

705
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,360
it to her, make her throw it
away.

706
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,560
Because what you're doing right
now is you're teaching your

707
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560
child how to take literally take
care of their own shit.

708
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,720
Yeah, right.
Yeah, it becomes a game to them

709
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,840
because, oh, you know, I get to
go, you know, I get to go and

710
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,160
then I'm yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, my good girl.

711
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680
Like it's like you train a dog.
But it's sure good human, right?

712
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,160
Sure, sure.
By doing this now, they, they

713
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,480
understand that, you know, they
can say they, they get, they,

714
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,960
they, they learn how to follow
orders.

715
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,960
Because look, I will never hit
my kids because I know when I

716
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,960
used to get hit when I was
younger, all it did was turn me

717
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,600
into a a better liar so I could
avoid.

718
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,960
Yeah.
Yeah, that's all you care about.

719
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,960
Yeah, I'm just trying to avoid
getting hit.

720
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,040
My kids, I won't fucking hit
them.

721
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,760
I instill the fear of God,
right?

722
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,960
Because I could talk loudly.
I'm big, you know?

723
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,480
But but I I won't hit them.
You know what I mean?

724
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,200
Yeah.
When I get most mad, I just I

725
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,880
keep my mouth shut.
I just pick him up and I pop him

726
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,800
in his bed and I just like walk
out, see?

727
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,040
And that's all I do, OK.
And then I come back.

728
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360
I'm like, you want to talk about
what what, what went wrong?

729
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,800
You want to talk about like what
happened?

730
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,080
Which is important, right?
It's important to communicate

731
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,680
with your kids like that because
it's like you're giving a

732
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,160
respect for another growing
human being instead of like how

733
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,880
I was raised.
And I'm, I'm, I'm almost sure

734
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,880
you were raised like this where
it's like, do as I say, not as I

735
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,640
do because I said it.
Yeah.

736
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Right.
Yeah.

737
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,120
It's so cats running around.
That's OK.

738
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
So.
So going back to the the whole

739
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,440
throw away your diapers thing.
Yeah, right.

740
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,240
Well, my son turned 2.
I told him throw away his

741
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,400
diapers.
He's a little tired.

742
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,800
He goes.
No, Daddy, because at 2 they

743
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,600
realize that they're a separate
entity from their mother.

744
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,000
And they like.
No, because it's like, I'm a

745
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,240
person.
Yeah, for sure.

746
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:25,960
Right.
It was like.

747
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,600
No, yeah.
Yeah, so he's like, he's in his

748
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,720
head.
He's like, I don't feel like it

749
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,520
right now.
I'm tired.

750
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,200
No.
And then I dropped down to his

751
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,440
level, right?
Get on the knee.

752
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,600
And my brother's a fucking
asshole because he was like

753
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,200
standing behind my son, right?
So I'm like, Khalil, go throw it

754
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,800
away now.
And now we had our first stare

755
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,760
down.
So now Khalil's staring at me.

756
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,520
I'm staring at him.
I'm not letting go.

757
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,480
Yeah.
And my brother is cracking up

758
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,280
behind me, but silently he's
like, and I'm like, you

759
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,800
motherfucker, because I'm trying
not to break character.

760
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,480
So, bro, it felt like an
eternity.

761
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Me and this fucking 2 year old
are staring each other down.

762
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,760
And then he looks away.
He looks back at me.

763
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,239
He looks away, picks up the bag.
He's like, OK, dirty.

764
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,239
Yeah.
And then I as soon as he did it,

765
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,000
I'm like, good job.
I'm like, sometimes we don't

766
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,280
feel like doing stuff, but you
have to do what Daddy's awesome

767
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,679
because I believe that you
should.

768
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,320
Your child should be able to say
no to requests, but never

769
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,040
orders.
There's a big difference.

770
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,360
There's a big difference.
So like you're.

771
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,120
Like getting me a drink is a
request.

772
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,560
Yeah, an order is like, go clean
your room.

773
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,560
Go clean your room.
Yeah, there is no, there's no

774
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,600
negotiating about cleaning the
room.

775
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,520
That is an order.
You do that now, right?

776
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,880
I don't want any questions.
You tell me now like you do it.

777
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,560
But if I say, can daddy have a
hug?

778
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,440
No, daddy.
OK, You're within your right.

779
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:56,400
That's your right.
No problem.

780
00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:01,600
So like I know when I was
younger where like I didn't feel

781
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,320
like that person was a good
person.

782
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,440
I didn't want to say hi to them.
I don't want to fucking hug

783
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,840
them.
You're they're weird.

784
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,520
Answer my honor, whoever the
fuck was in charge, go hug them.

785
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,960
So now I got to hug them
begrudgingly.

786
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,120
And Doug, that has to fuck with
your psyche.

787
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,760
Yeah, that'd be that makes that.
I think that leads to people

788
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,720
pleasing and all that.
So when my kid was young,

789
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,560
they're like, oh, say hi to your
auntie.

790
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,720
And he's just like, and then,
then I'll leave him alone.

791
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,200
Yeah.
I'm like, hey, he has the

792
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,480
rights.
Like, he doesn't need to.

793
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,120
He doesn't need to.
And then like I get questioned

794
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,200
like, Oh well then when does it
become him acknowledging his

795
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,160
rights and him being rude,
right?

796
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,880
I'm like when he gets old enough
because.

797
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,760
To give a shit about being rude.
When he starts understanding

798
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,440
social norms and stuff, like,
OK, now my son is 6.

799
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,200
When you walk into a room, you
greet everybody.

800
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,200
You say hello.
Yeah.

801
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,360
Whether you feel like it or not.
I don't give a fuck.

802
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,720
You're saying hello now it's an
order.

803
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,680
Yeah, right.
Because that's polite.

804
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:56,760
Yeah, eye contact handshake.
Handshake.

805
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,280
Look at you.
Yes, Yeah, that's right.

806
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,680
All of that, Yeah.
Right.

807
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,000
Because now he's at that stage.
You realize when your kid levels

808
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,360
up, it's like a Pok��mon, right?
You you totally.

809
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,520
Totally.
When it happens, like they start

810
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,360
paying attention more to things
that they start like acting a

811
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,760
certain way, like oh, he
levelled up.

812
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,320
And you know, it's also crazy,
dude, you could see now, and I

813
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,400
see this everywhere I go.
You go to the supermarket, you

814
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,480
go to a bar, you go for a walk
down the block and you see like

815
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,200
teenagers and a lot of teenagers
will, will they have like

816
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,640
anxiety to even make eye contact
to people you know, and you're

817
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,400
like, no one ever taught you
like how to look at some.

818
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,240
By the way, it's funny because I
was talking to my students about

819
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:37,000
this.
I teach in the Orthodox do a

820
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,360
school and they're very
sheltered in a lot of ways.

821
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,080
And you know, for better, for
worse.

822
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,160
But one thing that is for
definitely for better.

823
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,120
They don't have social media.
They don't, they rarely have

824
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,240
smartphones.
According to the school policy,

825
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:53,560
they're not allowed smartphones.
They are so socially adept and

826
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,200
so confident and so creative and
so comfortable in their, in

827
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,520
their skin, you know, and, and
like, and then you walk down the

828
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,160
block and like, you see like a,
anywhere from like a 17 to like

829
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,360
a 25 year old.
And like you say hey to them.

830
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,360
You're like, what's up?
How you doing?

831
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,040
Like, it looks like the fear of
God is like running through

832
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,360
them.
And you're like, what are you

833
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,640
afraid of, man?
I'm not going to hurt you.

834
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Like, you know, like I'm, I'm
just a dude.

835
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,920
Why is he saying hi?
I'm going to jog, you know, like

836
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,360
I'm not going to do anything to
you, but people are afraid.

837
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,240
Yeah, because a lot of a lot of
it sucks.

838
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,880
A lot of fathers aren't present.
Yeah, whether they're in the

839
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,000
house or not, there's a lot of
fathers are not present.

840
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,800
Yeah, OK, present father is
there constantly on their kids

841
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,400
ass correcting everything.
Right.

842
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,320
The nurturing comes from mom.
OK, let the mom baby.

843
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,040
Then they fucking fall down and
scrape their knee.

844
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,280
Go to mommy.
Yeah, you'll be fine.

845
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Yeah.
Go to mom.

846
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,720
Yeah, right.
That's that's that's because I

847
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,840
believe that, you know, men and
women have their strengths,

848
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,560
right?
Sure, men, probably physically

849
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,520
stronger, probably more
aggressive women.

850
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,440
If the baby's crying, I'm sure
she could deal with it way

851
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,960
better than I fucking can.
Yeah, I know she cleaned that

852
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,000
house way better than I can.
And she could put love in food

853
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,360
like.
Yeah, I don't give a fuck.

854
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,400
You take them in five.
Star Chef for sure.

855
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,280
Your grandma's going to be able
to whip up something way better.

856
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,800
Than that motherfucker, yeah.
Way better.

857
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,240
It's because women have that
special ability to put love in

858
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:20,800
food.
Or thinks, I think that I think

859
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,600
a lot of it's intention while
you're doing it.

860
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,160
It's like I care about like I'm
a lot of times I'm doing shit.

861
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,680
I'm, I'm doing things for the
sake of getting it done.

862
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,200
I'm not thinking I'm doing this
for my family, for my kids to

863
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,800
enjoy like sometimes I do.
And they're all great.

864
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,040
And you know, but I, I actually
think that for sure there's

865
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,400
probably, there's got to be a
tangible difference.

866
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,600
Absolutely.
The energy you put into

867
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,040
everything like that, shit
matters.

868
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,760
Whenever my mom would make a
Shabbat meal on Friday, right,

869
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,920
she'd say, like the food comes
out based on how good of a mood

870
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,160
or not I'm in that day.
And she was like, you guys

871
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,720
better help out.
You better do your insurance

872
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,240
because the food's going to be
shitty tonight, you know, and

873
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,640
you can taste it, You and and
then, and there are times where

874
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,040
I'll come back, like if I was in
college and I come back for a

875
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,040
weekend and like, I'll eat
something like, were you in a

876
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,720
bad mood today?
You know, like you.

877
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,880
Could tell.
I was off today, Yeah, I was off

878
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,080
today, she was saying.
I'll take food for my mom.

879
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,760
It was love it.
Yeah, yeah.

880
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,040
And then you know what their dad
experiences with the same thing.

881
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,920
Like, yeah, I growing up, my dad
used to take me to Modell's, get

882
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,720
some baseballs and like go to
the backyard and just hit him,

883
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,280
you know, just he just throw a
whole bucket of baseballs at me.

884
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,160
I'll just go and then I'd run
around for half an hour and pick

885
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,560
them all up.
You, I I that that's burned into

886
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,400
my association of my memory
forever.

887
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,120
I don't even know why, dude.
Like my dad spends a lot of time

888
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,160
and money doing a lot of amazing
things with us.

889
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,480
That's one of the few memories
that like from my childhood,

890
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,920
that's like vivid, you know, and
that I remember that I don't

891
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,160
know whether I'm associating the
memory or the feeling, you know,

892
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,520
of like, this is just a great
activity to like, just be doing

893
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,960
with my dad.
And like, I'm making contact

894
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,920
with the ball and he's proud of
me and I'm learning a sport and

895
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,280
I'm feeling great, you know?
And like, that's intention, you

896
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,040
know, Like if he was, if he's on
his phone the whole time, I

897
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,200
don't know if he'd feel the same
thing.

898
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,680
Bro, you know damn well you
wouldn't feel the same thing.

899
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,280
Yeah if he was just occupied
with other stuff.

900
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,200
Like my dad, after I turned 6
all he wanted to do is fucking

901
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,560
deal drugs, make money, take us
to fancy restaurants and just do

902
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,120
bullshit.
Yeah, go cheat.

903
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,800
Go cheat on my own bunch of
whores.

904
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,040
Like, he really.
Yeah.

905
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,680
So like, he wasn't, he was, he
was around sometimes, but he

906
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,880
wasn't present.
Right.

907
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,600
But my dad was also one of the
hardest working motherfuckers

908
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,160
I've ever met.
So like I have core memories

909
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,520
when I was until I was 6, which
if you, if you study like human

910
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,480
psychology is if you don't get
traumatized in those years of

911
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,120
your life, then it'll set you up
for success in the future.

912
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,760
From from born to 6.
From born to six.

913
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,000
So that is the that's the most
important years of your kids

914
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,120
life.
That's when they develop all the

915
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,720
tools that they're going to use
to to deal with the world.

916
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,320
So another thing that I do right
then I got this from my my

917
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:58,240
child's mom, which she sees
amazing is no pacifiers.

918
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,200
Yeah, we need to pacifiers.
Think, think, think of the word

919
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,720
pacify.
Why are you trying to pacify

920
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:06,040
your baby if the.
Baby's crying.

921
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,840
There's a reason.
There's a fucking reason they're

922
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,160
wet, they're hungry, they're
hungry or tired.

923
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,680
You have 5 things to go.
On Yeah.

924
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,880
But you know what?
First sign of crying?

925
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,880
Oh, my God.
Pass.

926
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,360
Fire.
Yeah, that's fire.

927
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,360
Like what you're teaching that
kid is to is to rely on

928
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,320
something else.
Fascinating.

929
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,920
To for their emotional
regulation.

930
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,440
Would you say that if thumb
would be better because it's

931
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,160
self soothing or you don't think
so?

932
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,200
Like if a kid sucks their thumb
like like that's like you take

933
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,200
it with you.
Like, it's not like you're

934
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,320
counting on something separate
from.

935
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,880
You, I mean, it'll mess up their
teeth with that too.

936
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,320
I I don't, I don't like the the
finger sucking because now

937
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,160
you're just trading the, the
pacifier for the finger.

938
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,840
But what I've noticed with my
son and other people who who

939
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,120
don't, who decide not to do a
pacifier, yeah, is that the kid

940
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,080
may like start trying to put the
fingers in the mouth, but then

941
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,240
you're like, no.
And they're easily just oh.

942
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,080
Yeah, yeah.
You have to do it early, though.

943
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,880
Yeah, you.
Can't let them develop that

944
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,960
because now because they're
looking for something to sue.

945
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,240
Yeah, right.
But if you just like, no for the

946
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,680
pacifier, no for the thumb.
Yeah.

947
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,120
Right now, granted, a lot of
breastfed babies, you can start

948
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,120
telling, like, especially when
they get like, a little bit

949
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,600
older, like if they're around 2,
still breastfeeding, yeah,

950
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,680
they'll associate, like, soothe
with feeding.

951
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,160
Yeah.
And they'll be like, oh, like,

952
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,200
you know, start crying for the
yeah, yeah, just get on there

953
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,640
just to soothe themselves.
Yeah.

954
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,040
Right.
So you have to be careful of

955
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,080
that.
Yeah, that too.

956
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Right.
But what I've learned with what

957
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,880
what I've learned raising Khalil
is that, like, bro, he knows how

958
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,880
to soothe himself.
Right.

959
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,120
He may get flustered about
something, but he's easy to come

960
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,160
back.
That's awesome.

961
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,040
Never had to deal with temper
tantrum.

962
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,160
Wow, fucking dropping in the
fucking store.

963
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,520
Never, right.
You know, like you give him the

964
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,120
look or you'd like stop that and
then you know that my kids, oh,

965
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,800
can I have this?
Like we have vending machines at

966
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,000
the gym.
You know, we have vending at the

967
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,600
gym.
Can I have Gatorade?

968
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,200
No, go drink water, OK?
Yeah.

969
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,520
But dad, can I no go drink water
right?

970
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,800
Like I'm able to say no and
there is no tantrum.

971
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,840
Right, right.
He's 6, you said.

972
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,800
Yeah, but now, now the six year
old's starting to the six and

973
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,840
11611.
The six year old's starting to

974
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,240
like I this is another thing,
right?

975
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,560
I have to check myself because
I'm not above my own bullshit.

976
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,920
Yeah.
So I check myself because I have

977
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,040
to realize that, like, sometimes
he's just inquisitive and he's

978
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,880
not trying to talk back, right.
The Marine in me is just like,

979
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:35,920
stop talking and just do what I
said.

980
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,160
Yeah.
But now I'm starting to try to,

981
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,560
like, remain calm.
Yeah.

982
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,720
When he's talking and he's
asking, he's being inquisitive.

983
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:47,840
I'm like, listen, when I talk,
you have to do it, OK.

984
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,800
But you're, you're questioning
now.

985
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,040
Like you don't understand.
So let me explain it to you.

986
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,360
Yeah, yeah.
Right.

987
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,560
So I think.
That, you know, helps with that

988
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,840
mindset.
What weed.

989
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,440
Yeah, it does.
It does.

990
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,280
It extends your patience for
sure.

991
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,280
You know, and you're going.
To get you more playful.

992
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Yeah, and you're going to be
like, you know what, let's let's

993
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,680
talk it out.
You know, like, how about this,

994
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,000
you know, the the the stupid why
conversation, right?

995
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,720
What are you doing?
Why, why, why?

996
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,560
That's a happens to be a super
important process.

997
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,360
And I have a friend of mine that
used to tell me he actually

998
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,520
asked me one time.
This was like a real religious

999
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,760
shock for me.
He's like, I'm going to be a

1000
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,760
three-year old and ask you about
your religious beliefs.

1001
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Like wow, I believe like you.
You believe in God.

1002
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:31,600
Yeah.
Why?

1003
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,000
Step one, stop.
I'm like, oh man.

1004
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,160
Then he goes Step 2.
You did Judaism.

1005
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,200
Why?
And I'm like, my family does.

1006
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,920
He goes, that's a good answer.
You know, it goes, OK, why do

1007
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,200
they do it?
Like, I don't know, maybe

1008
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,320
family, you know, and then and
like we went through things like

1009
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,480
that and I found out dude, I got
yeah, he got killed.

1010
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,960
You know what?
You a Carpenter?

1011
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,000
To hold things back, dude, and
that's, that's a method that's

1012
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,680
used I've and I've realized this
more and more and I've actually

1013
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,960
I had a friend of mine I just
had a argument with recently

1014
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,360
about this.
Like you like don't expose

1015
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,040
yourself to any shit that's not
good, that's not true.

1016
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,120
And I'm like, first of all, how
do I know whether it's true or

1017
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,040
not?
And second of all, like there's

1018
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,720
nothing wrong with like hearing
something out and then asking

1019
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:14,600
questions and like determining
for yourself, like, oh, that's

1020
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,840
probably bought, that's probably
bullshit.

1021
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,960
That's probably, you know, maybe
that sounds like there should be

1022
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,280
something more to look into.
And that sounds right, You know,

1023
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,520
and like, dude, I'm a 30 year
old adult, father of two, you

1024
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,040
know, that works three jobs.
I can decide for myself.

1025
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,080
I feel like, I feel like I'm
fucking listening to this or

1026
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,600
not, you know, like that's the
end of it.

1027
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,040
I, I love that.
I love that because a lot of

1028
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:38,440
people, they get have this like
dogmatic behavior when it comes

1029
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,400
to religion.
And they just do it because this

1030
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,880
is what named the book, right?
The Bible or the whatever.

1031
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,440
Yeah, this is what the Bible
told me to do.

1032
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,320
This is what I'm doing.
Yeah.

1033
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,920
And it's like, you don't.
You don't I I love people that

1034
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,160
are inquisitive, right?
They understand, like, OK, you

1035
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,040
say, well, I do it like this
because.

1036
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,000
And you have your reasoning
behind it, but you're also open

1037
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,880
to other things.
Sure, Right.

1038
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,240
Like, there's so many different
walks of life.

1039
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,680
What's wrong with you as a Jew
to sit down with a Muslim and

1040
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,920
just be like OK?
Yeah, what's up?

1041
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,960
What's up?
Yeah, nothing dude.

1042
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Like.
Me and you aren't fighting each

1043
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,880
other.
Maybe the countries in the

1044
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,040
Middle East, they're fighting
each other Me and you are not

1045
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,360
fighting each other right now.
No, dude, tell me about the,

1046
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,560
the, the, the, the Koran, right?
And I and I want to and we're

1047
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,960
let's talk about the Torah and,
and I don't even know what this

1048
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,720
book is.
That's the.

1049
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,960
Looks one of them.
It's just it's a segment of the

1050
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,080
Torah.
It's over the 5 bucks.

1051
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,880
So it's like, let's let's find
some common ground, let's see

1052
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,200
the differences.
Let's kind of figure because it

1053
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,640
comes from what?
Like the same people?

1054
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,280
Yeah, not the same people, but
the same group, right?

1055
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,720
Totally, totally, totally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1056
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,880
That's probably Iguana.
Yeah, do those that sounds.

1057
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,040
Like those guys shit in my pool,
they climb up the tree to shit

1058
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,720
in my pool.
I have probably done for that,

1059
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:49,880
so don't.
Wanna.

1060
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Maybe you'll you'll help me out
one time with it because this

1061
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,520
it's a nightmare.
I totally agree.

1062
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,640
And not even that I actually
think like the root of a lot of

1063
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,280
arguments that I've had with
people has just been based on

1064
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,800
miscommunication of terms,
right.

1065
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,760
So like if I'm like, I think God
is real and you're like, I don't

1066
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,120
think God's real.
I'm like, what do you think God

1067
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,160
is?
Like, how about that?

1068
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,640
Because like if you think that
God, if you if you're like,

1069
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,920
well, God's a big, you know, guy
with a white beard in the sky,

1070
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,520
I'd be like, yeah, I probably
don't think that guy's real

1071
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,480
either.
You know, I don't think that's

1072
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,200
God either.
And then we can find and then

1073
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,120
we're like, OK, so now we just
you thought that I had a term

1074
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,880
defined a certain way.
I'm letting you.

1075
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,760
I don't now my definition to God
is the force that drives life.

1076
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Love it.
And you're like, oh shit, I get

1077
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,880
behind that.
That's like, you know, that's

1078
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,360
that's cool.
You know, like we don't know

1079
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,640
what it is or how it works, but
we just know that, you know,

1080
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,480
there's something moving life
and there's like something that

1081
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,560
is the universe is growing and
like life is progressing and

1082
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,640
like something's happening.
Like, I don't know what it is,

1083
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,120
but it looks like God to me.
You know, like.

1084
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,200
You know what, like when I think
about God, I just think that

1085
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,920
it's the genius that moves
within all things that we can't

1086
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,120
understand.
The oneness.

1087
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,920
Yeah, there's a flow, there's,
there's obviously an

1088
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,320
intelligence, right?
We feel the wind, but we never

1089
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,280
see the wind, right?
We know it's there, right.

1090
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:11,240
So it's like the, the, the
perfect, the perfect way that

1091
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:14,000
like plants grow or like one
time I did mushrooms, right?

1092
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,880
This this is what made me.
Like I was actually about to say

1093
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,280
this is this is a great segue
into the second day conversation

1094
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:18,920
for sure.
Yeah.

1095
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,520
Oh, I watched this story for
you.

1096
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:26,440
Yeah.
So I was doing mushrooms and

1097
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,200
towards the end of it I had
dates in the house.

1098
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,480
So I was like, I'm hungry, let
me go eat a date.

1099
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,880
Yeah.
And I started, I ate, I ate the

1100
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,120
date and then like, like I, I
put the, the whole thing in my

1101
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,880
mouth and like I chewed around
the pit.

1102
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,280
I just kept the pit in my mouth
and I ate it.

1103
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,120
And like I laid down with the
pit in my mouth.

1104
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,560
And all of a sudden I see this
diagram 'cause I close my eyes,

1105
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,600
so I see this diagram and it was
like the date seed.

1106
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,280
Yeah.
And every little thing it was

1107
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,600
encoded with and it just showed
like, yeah, the date tree, which

1108
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,240
is a palm tree, right.
And then it showed the, the the

1109
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,400
fruit, right.
And like the benefits of the

1110
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,960
fruit and like the, the diet,
like the tree and like what

1111
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,400
animals do serve?
Do this tree serve?

1112
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:12,960
Yeah.
And you?

1113
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,360
See the?
You see the oneness.

1114
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,880
You see the connection between
everything.

1115
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,880
Like the genius that was all put
in this one seed to grow a tree,

1116
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,400
to do everything that a date
tree does.

1117
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,840
Yeah, right.
And I was like.

1118
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,560
Fuck, it's amazing, isn't?
It now imagine like.

1119
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,240
Everything.
Yeah.

1120
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:29,160
Has such a complex code like
this?

1121
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,480
Yeah, and it all works together
and it's all.

1122
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,400
Perfect.
And it's all coming from

1123
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,120
something.
Yeah, and to me, that's God.

1124
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,480
Yeah, I agree.
God is beyond our understanding.

1125
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,680
Brilliant dude.
It's beyond our understanding.

1126
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,560
It's like, you know that
intelligence.

1127
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,560
But that's why I think a lot of
people, and I actually remember

1128
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,400
I had a friend in high school
that said this.

1129
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,120
I didn't even understand what he
meant until I thought about it

1130
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,200
later when I did psychedelics.
But like he did shrooms in high

1131
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,440
school and, and, and he was not,
he didn't believe at the time.

1132
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,120
And I don't know if he does now
or not, but like he did shrooms

1133
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,800
if like 2 weeks after he's like,
I swear to God, like I know God,

1134
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,600
I know God's real.
Like I, I, I communicated with

1135
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,320
God.
I know, I know God's real.

1136
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,160
I saw him, I communicated with
like and and no one knew what he

1137
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,400
was talking about.
Everyone was like, yeah, OK,

1138
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,400
let's see how long this last
four.

1139
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,600
And like, you know, granted, if
you don't do it like I I think

1140
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,120
of these things like like
lighting a match, you got to

1141
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,360
still like you need something
for it to catch to, you know,

1142
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,760
you need to you need to put the
work into integrated and to

1143
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,520
bring a piece of wood or, you
know, and get and actually light

1144
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,480
something up.
He didn't do that, you know,

1145
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,000
inside of the day, whatever, But
that's what causes the most

1146
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,240
change is like you.
Sometimes people need that help

1147
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:37,200
starting that starting the match
and they go for it.

1148
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,000
But everyone has tons of people
have that experience.

1149
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,360
And if they don't want to use
the word God, they use something

1150
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,120
else.
But they all describe it the

1151
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,880
same way.
Yeah, exactly.

1152
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,480
I, yeah, I, I, I, the first time
I took LSD was also like, I, I,

1153
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,280
I actually, I didn't see, I
didn't feel like it was

1154
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,720
godliness because I was at like
a country bar in Austin, TX

1155
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:02,200
listening to music.
And also LSD is synthetic.

1156
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,160
You think that makes a
difference?

1157
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,920
I think it makes a hell of a
difference because it's just

1158
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,120
like everything else that human
beings like they try so close to

1159
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,120
get to like the the by the
molecule, like a medicine for

1160
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,760
example.
Right.

1161
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,840
Well, the root is not synthetic.
The root of LSD is from ergot,

1162
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,000
from a from a mold that grows on
wheat.

1163
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,760
OK, but they still have to like.
Yeah, they make it a lab.

1164
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,960
Yeah, Yeah.
They make it in a lab.

1165
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,000
Yeah.
So there has to be something

1166
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,840
missing.
You think of God's perfect

1167
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,160
design that's in a mushroom.
Yeah.

1168
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,320
Compared to LSD, Like it's going
to be similar because we tried

1169
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,360
our best to make it similar.
Yeah, but I think that because I

1170
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:41,600
I've done, I've done mushrooms,
ayahuasca, I've done what's the

1171
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,160
the cactus?
Not peyote, Peyote's cousin is

1172
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:44,640
in.
Yeah, it's is it?

1173
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,080
The.
Case they call it Watchuma, but

1174
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,600
it's also called there there's
there's like a Watchuma or a

1175
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,920
it's.
Not peyote, mescaline.

1176
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,480
No, it, it is mescaline.
That's that's like how

1177
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,800
psilocybin is in mushrooms.
Mescaline is in peyote and San

1178
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,040
Pedro.
OK, San Pedro's with that

1179
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,840
beautiful flower.
Bro, I fucking sat.

1180
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,320
I I rolled around.
You.

1181
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,680
You South America or something?
I was in South America.

1182
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,880
Yeah, this was after I did
ayahuasca.

1183
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,400
A couple like maybe like 3.
I was your first psychedelic.

1184
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,800
No mushrooms.
Mushrooms.

1185
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:21,960
And then like in 2014, like bro,
I had a house and I had a whole

1186
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,680
bunch of shit and in 2014 I tore
my ACL.

1187
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:28,600
OK.
No, in 2012 I tore my ACL and.

1188
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,880
What were you up to in your life
at that .2012?

1189
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,000
I was getting, I just got out
the Marine Corps.

1190
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,960
I was going to college.
I was dating this hot girl.

1191
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,120
Thanks.
I was working at A at a gym.

1192
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,200
OK, Jewish guy on the gym.
Oh yeah, Yeah.

1193
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,120
Always.
Yeah, Israeli guy.

1194
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,920
Israeli, Israeli guy for sure.
Yeah.

1195
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,120
He wears three quarter, wears
three quarter length jeans or

1196
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,360
something like that.
Dude, his outfits are crazy.

1197
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,240
Yeah.
So I was trying to figure my

1198
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,400
life out but bro like I was on a
pretty good high.

1199
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,520
Like I like dating that girl and
only my own house at like 23.

1200
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,320
It's awesome.
Yeah, bro, and.

1201
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,840
You were living here before.
I was, I was in, I was in

1202
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,880
Sunrise.
I was in, I was in West Sunrise.

1203
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,240
Yeah.
So I was in Fort Lauderdale and

1204
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,880
what you call it.
I was just bro, I was, I was

1205
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,240
living life good.
I was training jiu jitsu, you

1206
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:20,760
know, I was making money from
the VA with the disability

1207
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,480
benefits.
I was making money from the VA

1208
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,680
going to school, then I had a a
financial aid on top of that and

1209
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,320
and then I was working at the
gym then.

1210
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Whatever money you were making,
I.

1211
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,520
Had a bunch of fucking money
that just kept coming in three

1212
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,600
months and I was just living.
I was living life Great.

1213
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,880
It's awesome going to school and
doing jiu jitsu.

1214
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,920
I was fucking jiu jitsu.
Yeah.

1215
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,960
I hate that I was getting paid
all this money.

1216
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,560
And that's my ACL and that girl.
And then that girl broke up with

1217
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,880
me.
And what she said is that she

1218
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,240
became the man of the
relationship.

1219
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,720
Shit, she said that to you?
Yeah, though, because I didn't

1220
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:58,520
know, I didn't have a lot of
emotional intelligence at that

1221
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,480
point, right?
I'm 23.

1222
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,920
Yeah.
So you imagine, right?

1223
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:06,640
I tear my ACL, I I no longer
have jujitsu and I was using

1224
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,960
that to like that.
Would that kept the demons away?

1225
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,240
Sure, because when I came back
from Iraq I went on embassy

1226
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:14,520
duty, which is like guarded 3
different embassies all around

1227
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,120
the world.
It's considered more relaxed,

1228
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,760
right?
Service is way more relaxed,

1229
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:18,280
right?
OK.

1230
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,680
But you're guarding embassies,
so some shit was to go down.

1231
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,080
You're it's only 5 Marines in
the embassy and they're not even

1232
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,640
there all the time.
Like I have to call them from

1233
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:29,400
the house.
Yeah.

1234
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,240
Hopefully they're not out
drinking, right.

1235
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,800
Yeah.
Or some trips somewhere you

1236
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,000
know.
Yeah.

1237
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,120
And then we have to hunker down
in the embassy until the fast

1238
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,240
team comes.
The FAST team is like they have

1239
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:44,200
these teams of Marines as that
that are like on naval ships

1240
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,320
going up and down the Atlantic
and Pacific Ocean just waiting

1241
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,520
to in.
Case anything happens.

1242
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,640
To an embassy wow right, which
is why Benghazi was so fucking

1243
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,680
stupid because there were fast
teams ready to go and the.

1244
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,040
I don't know who made the call,
whether it was the president or

1245
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,600
Hillary, because Hillary was the
depart, the secretary, Secretary

1246
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,080
of State.
So she's head of all the

1247
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,440
embassies.
Yeah, right.

1248
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,280
A fast team could have went in
there and helped Benghazi.

1249
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,680
Easy.
You could add a whole fucking

1250
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,000
platoon of Marines fucking
helping getting everybody out.

1251
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:14,960
Cause of your question about
that, you think that I was

1252
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,160
thinking about this the other
day I was talking, I did a

1253
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,680
podcast with a retired homicide
detective.

1254
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,560
And one thing that we were
talking about was that a lot of

1255
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,640
times, like the flaws are the
one mistake.

1256
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,760
The mistakes are always super
highly accentuated and the winds

1257
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,160
are never publicized.
And so like, you know, Benghazi

1258
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,800
situation happens and like
that's history and then you have

1259
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,320
1000 other stories that could
have been history that have been

1260
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,280
successfully prevented.
And do you think that it's

1261
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,960
incompetence urge just like
listen, people screw up.

1262
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,640
No one choose 100% and you know,
and the fuck ups are just

1263
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,960
considered like a big deal
because they're big deal.

1264
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,000
Like there's on the line.
Bro that is an amazing question

1265
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,520
and I probably have an answer
that you're not really

1266
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,400
expecting.
OK?

1267
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,840
I think it's just basic human
psychology.

1268
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,800
OK, OK.
We are programmed to focus on

1269
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,720
the negative more than we are
the project.

1270
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:11,640
Sure.
We need like 10 to 20 positive

1271
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,880
associations for every like one
negative association we have

1272
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,640
for.
Someone right, Because if we if

1273
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,440
we learn how to hyper focus on
the negative, it helps keep us

1274
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,000
alive.
Yeah, right.

1275
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,360
So like right?
That's why anxiety, that's why

1276
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,240
anxiety developed, you know?
Correct.

1277
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,000
And also, are you familiar with
epigenetics?

1278
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,040
A little bit.
So epigenetics is a study of

1279
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,720
like, it's basically how in in
DNA and part of it.

1280
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,680
Learn genes right?
Yeah, so let's say, let's say

1281
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,680
somebody's great, great
grandmother, every time she

1282
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,560
passed the Rose Bush, she gets
stung by a bee.

1283
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:49,040
OK, Her biology associates red
flower pain.

1284
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,400
Yeah, OK, yeah.
So now she has all the eggs in

1285
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,440
her that she will ever have in
her entire life.

1286
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:56,480
Wow.
Right.

1287
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,800
So that means that in your
grandma, there's both your

1288
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,400
grandma and your mother.
Right, right, right.

1289
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,800
They're both.
And totally.

1290
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,000
Right.
So like when your grandma's

1291
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,920
pregnant, right?
It's your mom, but then your mom

1292
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,640
develops all her eggs when she's
in.

1293
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,800
The and we're all developed,
right?

1294
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,000
And my grandmother, yeah.
Oh shit.

1295
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,320
Right, Yeah.
You see how deep it goes.

1296
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,760
OK, so then now the daughter's
born.

1297
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,680
OK.
When she passes by red flowers,

1298
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,520
she's kind of like, yeah, like,
I don't like red flowers.

1299
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,840
Yeah, Right.
And then the grandmother may

1300
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,480
say, oh, it's because I used to
get stinged by.

1301
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,120
Sure.
Like, you stay away from them.

1302
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,200
Yeah.
Then that daughter is born, and

1303
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,240
let's just say something happens
to the mom and the grandma,

1304
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,080
they're not around anymore,
right.

1305
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,440
She goes by red flowers.
She immediately like, oh, stay

1306
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,080
away.
Yeah.

1307
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,640
She doesn't know why.
Yeah.

1308
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,720
Epigenetics.
Yeah.

1309
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,840
Because if you think about it
like our bodies are built so

1310
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,240
that we continue to take care of
the next generation.

1311
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,320
Sure, Right.
We're trying to do better.

1312
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,280
So to our survival of the.
Species.

1313
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,320
Yeah, totally.
Right.

1314
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,040
That's why.
Like I don't know if your kids

1315
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,280
vaccinated.
The first one is partially, the

1316
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,880
second one is not OK.
My kid got a vaccine injury

1317
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,080
right where like really kept
getting sick.

1318
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,920
He's having an allergic reaction
to these vaccines.

1319
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,200
He kept getting sick the entire
first year of his.

1320
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,160
Shit, really.
Respiratory issues entire first

1321
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,480
year of his life.
When he was born, he got like

1322
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,960
the whole set of the first, the
whole first set.

1323
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,960
Whole first set right?
OK bro you know how it is going

1324
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,360
to the fucking hospital with
your kids.

1325
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,480
It is painful, OK, because.
One of the worst things the.

1326
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,960
Worst things because you can't
fix it.

1327
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,400
Yeah.
And they can't speak to say

1328
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,080
what's wrong with Yeah, yeah.
Bro, and you need to fix it.

1329
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,680
You need to fix it.
It's your kid.

1330
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,160
It's.
And dog, one time I remember bro

1331
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,160
Khalil is sick, don't know
what's wrong with him.

1332
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,880
They're trying to collect a
sample of something and they

1333
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:04,160
were like, we have to, we have
to get his urine.

1334
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,760
So then we they put like it's
called like a, like a condom

1335
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,640
catheter.
They put it over his penis and

1336
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,520
then they're waiting for him to
pee.

1337
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,200
He didn't pee fast enough.
So now they got to put the well

1338
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,640
can.
They just like let him pee.

1339
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,320
What do they got to wait 5
minutes?

1340
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,600
OK, we waited hours.
Oh yeah, it.

1341
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,080
Wasn't happening.
OK, so then they had to stick.

1342
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:24,680
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

1343
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,680
Now me watching my son get a
fucking catheter bro I wanted to

1344
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,680
fry.
Yeah, dude, you'd rather you

1345
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,160
stick, you'd rather you take it,
Yeah.

1346
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,280
Yeah, give it to me.
Me a fucking Nope.

1347
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,160
Yeah.
So.

1348
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,280
So going through this for a
year, so then around his first

1349
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:47,120
year visit, my friend was like,
hey, listen, I don't want to

1350
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,320
overstep.
Yeah, but I think it's the

1351
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,040
vaccines causing that.
OK, I was like, you know what,

1352
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,400
we have his first year
appointment.

1353
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,920
This doctor been cool as shit
with us for the longest.

1354
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,840
You know, let me go speak to her
about this.

1355
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,000
So it's during COVID, so only
one parent could go in at a

1356
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,480
time, right?
Right.

1357
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,040
So.
Which is also a whole bunch of

1358
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,440
other bullshit, but OK, yeah, we
all go down that rabbit hole

1359
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:17,840
because that's too much, Yeah.
So I go in, right, because I'm

1360
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,000
the one with the questions,
right?

1361
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,720
And the mom asked questions too.
But you know, I'm, I'm the

1362
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,160
father.
So of course I'm going to go do

1363
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,760
it.
So she's in the car, she's

1364
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,560
waiting.
So the nurse comes in there with

1365
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,640
four vaccines.
He's only supposed to get three.

1366
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,840
OK.
She came in there with an extra

1367
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,880
polio shot.
I come to find out later that

1368
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,080
the doctor added an extra polio
shot to help protect my son from

1369
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,800
COVID.
Without asking me.

1370
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,680
What?
Without asking me.

1371
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,920
That was when I brought furious
when I found out you.

1372
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,560
Could have you could have the
doctor could have lost, could

1373
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,520
lose a license for that, No.
I don't know.

1374
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,640
That's a big deal.
That's without parents consent.

1375
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,360
Without my consent, the nurse
came in, put the vaccines, we're

1376
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,120
going to give them these
vaccines, and then your doctor's

1377
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,800
going to come in.
She would have told me after the

1378
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:01,680
fact.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1379
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,520
Yeah, so fuck you, Doctor
Dulito.

1380
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,920
OK, yeah, fuck that.
Yeah, associates.

1381
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,840
Don't.
Really.

1382
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,160
Yeah.
Wow.

1383
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:15,240
OK, so in Coconut Creek.
Good shit.

1384
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:15,800
Do you know?
It's OK.

1385
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,040
It's important, I think for
sure.

1386
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:25,360
So, so the nurse is like, OK, So
then she leaves.

1387
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,360
She goes to Doctor Dulito,
right?

1388
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,760
And Doctor Dulito calls my
child's mom.

1389
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,440
She's like, hey, do you know the
father's in here?

1390
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:34,920
Try not to get your son
vaccinated.

1391
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,040
Are you OK with that?
Trying to put us against.

1392
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's like, do whatever the dad

1393
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,960
says.
How did you say yeah?

1394
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,080
Good for her.
Yeah, we support each other,

1395
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:43,680
bro.
We're.

1396
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,160
On the same team, Yeah.
Important for parents, Yeah.

1397
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,440
So Doctor Lito comes in there
with a fucking attitude.

1398
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:52,680
I bet.
Right.

1399
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,640
And she's like, I hear you don't
want to get your son vaccinated.

1400
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,960
And I was like, Doctor Dulito,
you know as well as I do that

1401
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,800
since Khalil has been born, he's
been in and out of the hospital.

1402
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,800
And I think that it's one of
those vaccines on the table that

1403
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,280
is causing it.
Yeah, she goes, what, did you

1404
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,120
hear that in a blog?
And I was like, no, it's in the

1405
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,040
vaccine insert.
That's.

1406
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,120
On the.
Table talking about it says.

1407
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,280
On the packaging.
Side effects on the packaging.

1408
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,000
It's right there.
Yeah, I'm sorry.

1409
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,360
Most parents don't fucking read
that.

1410
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,080
I didn't read it because we
fucking trust you.

1411
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,680
Yeah, but now I have questions.
What the fuck is the problem?

1412
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,240
Yeah, and.
Then she goes, I hate it when

1413
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,360
you anti vaxxers, I hate it when
you anti vaxxers come in here

1414
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,000
and try to tell me to do my job.
As a matter of fact, I believe

1415
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:47,280
in vaccines and my son had had
the the meningitis vaccine.

1416
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,920
He's 16, experienced every
single side effect.

1417
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,280
And I told him that he better
man up because he's going to.

1418
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,760
She said that.
Word for word he better man up

1419
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,360
because he's taking the second
dose.

1420
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,960
I'm like, give me my baby, my
baby's medical records.

1421
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:11,120
Goodbye.
Holy shit dude.

1422
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,600
Right.
It's like you can't ask your

1423
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,720
doctor's questions without being
labeled.

1424
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,640
And I had a legitimate reason.
Yeah, and I'm.

1425
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,440
What that that story with their
kids?

1426
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,080
A crazy story.
That's a crazy thing to be proud

1427
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,200
of.
It's a crazy thing to like, be

1428
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,720
like.
And I did that right.

1429
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:29,440
Yeah.
You want to hear?

1430
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,360
Some shit I did that you.
Believe in the vaccine more than

1431
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,760
you, than your love for your
son.

1432
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,200
You're a mom.
What the fuck is wrong with you

1433
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,520
bro?
Your son gets sick from this

1434
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,000
fucking thing.
You should be looking, you

1435
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,000
should be asking questions.
No, she has that dogmatic.

1436
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,120
Yeah, yeah.
And.

1437
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,880
You could see that when you talk
to people like you could see

1438
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,000
when their eyes get glazed over
when they're hearing something

1439
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,720
that they don't want that they
don't want to hear or that

1440
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,080
they're already not accepting or
not believing you're like, you

1441
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,720
know what it's not even fucking
talk worth talking to you.

1442
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,280
You know like I'll have you what
I'm talking to where like I'll

1443
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,560
be explaining something that is
like completely like we could

1444
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,400
agree with this yes, we agree
with that yes.

1445
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,080
Does that mean that this, No,
they're like, OK, you know what,

1446
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,880
like great, you're not going to,
if you don't want to hear it,

1447
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,600
I'm not going to waste my
breath, you know, But like you

1448
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,360
can tell for sure.
You can tell when you're talking

1449
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:16,480
to people that like you see
that?

1450
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,760
Let me get another pay-per-view,
huh?

1451
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,840
Let me get another paper.
Yeah, you familiar with

1452
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,560
cognitive dissonance?
Yeah, sure.

1453
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,880
That's what that is.
Yeah, well.

1454
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,920
Dude, that's how our freaking
here's something works today.

1455
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,000
Dude, our time world is
cognitive by the way.

1456
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,960
I'm a victim of it too though.
You know I do that shit all day,

1457
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,320
dude.
You know, things I don't want to

1458
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,440
hear.
I don't like institutional

1459
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,120
systems.
I've never, I've never have

1460
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,240
because I was never good at
them.

1461
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,360
I never had knew how to navigate
my way through school or through

1462
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,680
interviews or through like
application like that.

1463
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,920
And I'm like, you know what I
don't like?

1464
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,000
And so like when someone tells
me I went to Harvard, I'm like,

1465
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,280
big, big fucking deal.
You know, who gives a shit?

1466
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,920
You know, And like, the truth is
that it is a big deal.

1467
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,120
And it's something that I
cannot, like I literally, I just

1468
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,440
can't do, you know?
So like, I understand that

1469
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,800
there's like that kind of dogma
that I have, but I also know

1470
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,120
myself enough to know like I'm
just being an asshole about it.

1471
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,560
I'm just saying I'm, I'm
admitting it like this is what I

1472
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,680
have that cognitive distance,
you know, I want to do that.

1473
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,400
And, and I think that that's
that's healthy to admit, right?

1474
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,680
Because we all could be a victim
to cognitive distance.

1475
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,880
If right now you show me another
martial art that's more

1476
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,960
effective and you prove it to me
that it's more effective than

1477
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,720
Jiu jitsu.
Let's say you go fuck yourself.

1478
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,720
Bro yeah, you don't want to
hear. 10 years and then don't

1479
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:24,840
want to hear it?
Yeah.

1480
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,400
Jiu Jitsu is the best form of
martial arts.

1481
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,840
Everything you can tell me after
that, go fuck yourself, yeah?

1482
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,240
You know what I mean?
Yeah.

1483
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:38,200
So I understand, I understand.
But we're talking about a hobby

1484
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,640
that I turned into a job, not a
child's life.

1485
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,800
Yeah, and you had to know the
difference.

1486
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,320
You got to know the difference.
I know dude I had I this this

1487
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,200
past week.
I I hate doing shit around the

1488
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,080
house.
I'm not handy at all, you know,

1489
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,680
and I'm and I, I could be if I
want to, but it's not familiar

1490
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,400
to me and I just have a
resistance to it.

1491
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,680
And so water spraying all over
and it's getting under our vinyl

1492
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,120
thing and we have tile
underneath it.

1493
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,240
So it's like tile.
Then there's like water

1494
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,000
underneath it now and then
there's a floorboards and I'm

1495
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,240
like, I had to fucking rip up
these floorboards and like, I

1496
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,320
don't want to do it.
And like every part of my body

1497
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:13,320
is telling me I don't want to do
it.

1498
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,680
Like, but I have my wife and I
have my two kids at home and I

1499
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,280
don't want mode coming.
And so you know what?

1500
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,440
I have this cognitive, cognitive
dissonance.

1501
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,520
Suck it up for half an hour for
an hour on a Sunday afternoon

1502
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,000
and just get that shit done and
like, and you move on with your

1503
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,400
life.
And I think like, like what

1504
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,760
you're saying, like when there's
a bigger picture on the table,

1505
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,080
when there's something bigger
than just yourself, your kids

1506
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,240
there and like your family's
there, like that's where people

1507
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,040
get hurt, you know, that's the
problem.

1508
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,320
Yeah, not for sure.
And I think it's very mature for

1509
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,480
you to have said, like, fuck,
I'm not handy.

1510
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:45,680
This is not something I'm used
to.

1511
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,480
Yeah, but I have my wife, I have
my kids here.

1512
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,000
Like I got to do something.
Yeah.

1513
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,720
I think that that's a that's a
sign of a healthy man.

1514
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,560
You try, dude.
You know, and I think we're all

1515
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,560
we're all like, there's this
this book that sometimes I just

1516
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,760
pick up a book and I see one
thing and I'm like, I take that

1517
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:01,440
with me.
Yeah, right.

1518
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,840
There's this book called the the
spiritual warrior.

1519
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,720
OK, I know nothing about the
book.

1520
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,800
OK, I saw the book.
I love the title.

1521
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:13,040
I opened and it was chapter 10
and it was like the very

1522
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,360
beginning said most people, and
I'm paraphrasing, most people

1523
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,640
will live their life and no
matter who it is will tell you

1524
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,760
that they wish they could have
done this better.

1525
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,760
They could have done that
better, right?

1526
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,400
If they got 2 medal of honors,
fuck, I could have got the third

1527
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,480
one, right?
Maybe I should have just jumped

1528
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,480
on the grenade like that.
Third time.

1529
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,680
Yeah, right.
And no matter what it is, you

1530
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,000
feel like you didn't do good
enough.

1531
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:40,120
And the truth is that no matter
what, given any situation and

1532
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,720
who you were during that time,
you did the very best that you

1533
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:44,640
could do.
Yeah.

1534
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,440
No matter what, you did the best
I think.

1535
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,720
It's the way you got to look at
life, right?

1536
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,440
Yeah, 'cause otherwise you spend
your entire life beating

1537
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,000
yourself.
Up beating yourself up for what

1538
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,160
and.
Not and that you can beat

1539
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,000
yourself up enough that you
don't even tried a certain

1540
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,680
point.
Like if you say like I'll never

1541
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,320
be able to do it, then you'll
never try to do it.

1542
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:00,120
You'll.
Never try it.

1543
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,440
And that's where a lot of people
get stuck.

1544
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:03,800
Yeah, a lot of people get stuck
right there.

1545
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,520
That's why I'm so happy I
started coming to gym.

1546
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,200
I'm so legit, dude.
Like because I was like, I

1547
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,600
don't, I, I didn't know that I,
I, I was, I was scared shitless,

1548
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,040
dude.
I mean, you know.

1549
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,480
Yeah.
It's crazy.

1550
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,520
Yeah, crazy.
And I'm like, I don't know,

1551
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,160
maybe I'll hate it, you know?
Maybe.

1552
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,680
I'll I I love how you just
walked in and you committed.

1553
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,399
I did a class.
Something, yeah, but.

1554
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,520
I just, I just see that I liked
it, yeah.

1555
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:31,120
Yeah, because if you think about
like an established man, right?

1556
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,760
Like you have your family, you
have your three jobs, right?

1557
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,160
You're a husband, you're the
king of your household, and you

1558
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,240
have to walk in this fucking
gym, right?

1559
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,560
And be at the bottom of the
totem pole.

1560
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,600
Oh, yeah, right.
And me, I'm usually a little bit

1561
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:49,040
harder on people when they first
come in because I, I, I like to

1562
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,279
weed out people.
Yeah.

1563
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,439
Right.
I need somebody that's going to

1564
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,359
be able to take like I'm because
sometimes I get in, you know,

1565
01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:57,399
me, I get in marine mode
sometimes it's like, I need you

1566
01:08:57,399 --> 01:09:00,160
to do this, right?
Because at the end of the day,

1567
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,479
right, I'm showing you a martial
art, OK?

1568
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,600
The whole purpose behind a
martial art is for you to defend

1569
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,720
yourself.
You can hurt people with this.

1570
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,319
So sometimes I got to really be
fucking serious.

1571
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,920
Put your hand there or you're
going to get hurt.

1572
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,359
Yeah.
Right.

1573
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:18,960
Stop doing that.
OK, I have to be rough

1574
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:24,640
sometimes, right?
And I just, I, I love how, like

1575
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,800
I've seen the difference from
you from day one till now,

1576
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,880
right?
It's like you're you, you, you.

1577
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,560
You could tell you were very
uncomfortable at 1st and now

1578
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,040
it's like you're so willing to
jump in the fire no matter who

1579
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,680
you're going against.
Yeah, 'cause I would say Mike

1580
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,880
Knight is one of the most
dangerous people to be standing

1581
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,439
in.
That guy's an assassin, right?

1582
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,800
Yeah, Chris is a nut.
And he doesn't take it.

1583
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,000
He doesn't take it easy.
Either No, he doesn't.

1584
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,960
I'm the damn coach and Mike,
don't take it easy on me.

1585
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,480
Right.
It you know 40 laws of power,

1586
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,800
never I'll shine the Master
Mike's like fuck that.

1587
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,920
Yeah, I did.
Story that I used to a lot.

1588
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,480
Sometimes I'll jump into MMA,
right?

1589
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:06,960
I'll do sparring sometimes, OK?
Mike has never tapped me out to

1590
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,160
this point.
OK.

1591
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,680
So we doing this drill where
like I have my back against the

1592
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,960
wall and he's on my legs and
that's how we start.

1593
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,880
So boom, we're starting and I'm
trying to like fight my way up

1594
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,960
and he's pulling me down and and
then I feel his weight go

1595
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,160
backwards.
So as soon as he did that, I'd

1596
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,400
lunge forward and he was just
trying to bait me into the

1597
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,160
guillotine.
As soon.

1598
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,480
As I lunge forward I feel his
hand go around my neck and I was

1599
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:34,680
like.
Fuck.

1600
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,400
You about to have it?
Bro all the.

1601
01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:38,440
Air.
Left.

1602
01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:43,000
My lung and I like and I tapped
them like you motherfucker.

1603
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,040
And this is prior to him doing
that.

1604
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,760
He's like hitting me.
And Mike does not have a light

1605
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:49,440
hand.
Yeah.

1606
01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:52,120
He's how you feel.
I'm like, oh, shit, I got to

1607
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,640
give up.
I got to be able to fight.

1608
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,400
Yeah.
And then I could give it to you.

1609
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,800
Wow, man.
So Mike is a person.

1610
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,280
He's not going to take it easy
on you.

1611
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,240
So for you to go just toe to toe
with him like you're trying the

1612
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,040
shit that I'm teaching you, like
I love it because that's the

1613
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,320
sign of somebody that's going to
be good.

1614
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,360
They're going to be committed to
this.

1615
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,840
They're going to they're going
to do well in this.

1616
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,600
Like the things I'm teaching is
for a purpose.

1617
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,960
Yeah.
Because Doug, Jiu Jitsu will

1618
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,600
help you out in your life,
period.

1619
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,560
Yeah, with your problem solving.
Like you have to solve problems

1620
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,320
under duress.
That's what jiu jitsu is.

1621
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,880
Yeah.
It's a human chest mask which

1622
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,280
you solve problems under duress
using your body.

1623
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,080
Yeah.
Which is super dangerous.

1624
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,120
Yeah, and literally every
movement means something.

1625
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,040
Every single motion means
something.

1626
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,520
It means something, yeah.
And the other thing, by the way,

1627
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,640
the, I think one of the more
valuable things is learning

1628
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,760
under enormous pressure how to
keep breathing or trying to keep

1629
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,720
breathing, because that also is
the skill that carries over when

1630
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,120
I have a phone call, a sales
call and the customer is reading

1631
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,800
me out and I don't know, take a
deep breath and you're like, you

1632
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,240
know what, I'm getting pummels
right now.

1633
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,040
I just got, I got to figure out
a way to just like wordsmith my

1634
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,480
way out of this shit, you know,
and.

1635
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,040
Because how you do one thing,
you do everything.

1636
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,800
Yeah.
So if you're learning this, if

1637
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:00,920
you're doing this with your
body.

1638
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,240
You're interdisciplinaries,
Yeah.

1639
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,040
It just goes across everything.
Yeah.

1640
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,600
Yeah, so I've already seen the
difference.

1641
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,560
Yeah.
Which is I'm, I'm, I'm proud of

1642
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:08,200
it.
Like I'm gonna keep.

1643
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,960
I, I, I, I do.
I love this sport, dude.

1644
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,040
Yeah, I love this sport.
This is wait till like when you

1645
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,080
get like your blue belt, you
start giving the people a

1646
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,640
fucking hard time.
It's going to be I can't wait.

1647
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,960
I can't wait.
Yeah.

1648
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,240
Yeah.
So you're you're you're doing,

1649
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,600
you're doing well.
You're progressing as you.

1650
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,280
Should.
We'll see.

1651
01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:24,320
We'll see.
We'll see, yeah.

1652
01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:26,760
You got to keep it up.
I, I also think the I, I think

1653
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,360
also another value that's worth
diving into is the value of

1654
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,000
playing, of fighting up and
playing up in anything you do

1655
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,560
that like playing people better
than you.

1656
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,960
Like the reason why I've, I'm,
I'm enjoying this because I know

1657
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,840
that Chris is being the shadow
of me or Mike's being the shadow

1658
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,160
of me.
And if they're not, there's a

1659
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:45,840
reason rather they're not.
You know, my mom used to like

1660
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,040
whenever you play games
together, like she'd beat us and

1661
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,640
then you're like one day and you
know, 8910, like one day you're

1662
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,200
going to beat me.
When you beat me, you're going

1663
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:54,520
to know that you're really good
at this.

1664
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:55,760
You know, you're going to get a
really good.

1665
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,400
And then we did beat her, you
know, 1415 years old and you're

1666
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,160
like, ha, ha, you know, we're
better than she is.

1667
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,800
And he's like, we earned it.
Like, you know, like that, that

1668
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,360
like that was the best feeling
in the world.

1669
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:08,160
And if you're playing below your
level 2, like if you're just

1670
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,880
like, you know, if you're, if
you're, if you're punching below

1671
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,000
your weight, like you're not
growing from that.

1672
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:18,160
No, OK, so let me let me just
tell you about the jitsu, right?

1673
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,120
Because that makes sense.
But I just want to let you know

1674
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,800
something else too.
Once you get your blue belt

1675
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,040
right.
I like you.

1676
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:24,720
How?
Does it go by the way?

1677
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,560
Because I don't know what what
point that is perfect.

1678
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,560
White, blue, purple, brown,
black.

1679
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,760
White, blue, purple, brown back
so.

1680
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:35,640
So the average time to get to
blue belt is from six months to

1681
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,120
a year and a half.
OK.

1682
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,000
So usually like if you come in
with wrestling background, like

1683
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,960
usually in six months you'll be
get your blue belt, right.

1684
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,560
But if you're coming straight
off the street like you did, I

1685
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,680
got mine in a year and a half.
I came out the Marine Corps, but

1686
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,520
my one of the old school
Brazilian things to do was to

1687
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,840
keep people back for a while.
It's like he had me competing

1688
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,720
against blue belts when I was a
white belt and still didn't

1689
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,080
promote me till six months
after.

1690
01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,120
Really.
Yeah.

1691
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,760
How do you feel about that He.
Looked.

1692
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,480
It was frustrating at the time.
Yeah, now I don't give a fuck.

1693
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:06,000
I mean, I can't get another belt
now.

1694
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,160
Oh yeah.
Still goes white, blue, purple,

1695
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,520
brown, black.
Now jujitsu the system itself,

1696
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,440
since there's only 5 belts, you
got to spend time at each belt.

1697
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:23,200
Yeah, because as a blue belt you
should be whooping the ass of

1698
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,040
every white belt that you come
in contact with.

1699
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,040
OK, If you're not, then.
You're not there yet.

1700
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,920
You're, you have some work to do
because there's a reason why you

1701
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,040
got the blue belt.
But if you're not like, handling

1702
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,720
white belts like you should,
Yeah, right then.

1703
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,760
Because these are all ranges.
So like if you're like towards

1704
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,920
the advanced end of a white belt
or the beginning end of a blue

1705
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,120
belt, hypothetically you guys
might be pretty close.

1706
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,360
Yes, in in skills.
Yes, but once you settle into

1707
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,000
your blue belt you should be
handing.

1708
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:53,760
Right.
Exactly.

1709
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,680
So at that point, when you're
settled, you should not be at

1710
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,480
the bare tip of blue belt.
You should be, you know, pretty.

1711
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,000
In most cases.
In most cases.

1712
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,240
Because let me tell you, some
people, This is why, like I tell

1713
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:07,640
you to just focus on triangles
because a white belt sometimes

1714
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:12,200
will latch onto a move that they
do so well, they can't do

1715
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,880
anything else.
Yeah, do that move so well.

1716
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:16,840
Right.
So like the day that you

1717
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,520
triangle Mike.
Yeah, right.

1718
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,000
I was proud because I know Mike
was just letting you fuck

1719
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,760
around, but when it started
getting tight, he actually tried

1720
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,680
to escape.
But you, you, you, you actually

1721
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,800
were able to finish it because
of something that you did that

1722
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:32,640
was correct.
Yeah.

1723
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,800
Right, because there's a thing
like, you know, like me, I'll

1724
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,120
let you guys get me into shit so
I could escape out of it, right?

1725
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:44,320
Sure, but if you do everything
as prescribed, guess who's not

1726
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:45,120
escape for you?
Yeah.

1727
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,640
And.
You know, he as an instructor,

1728
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,920
like, I don't feel like I need
to win every single match.

1729
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,160
And if I let myself get into
danger or you put me in danger

1730
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,240
and I'm unable to get out of it
with something that I taught

1731
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:00,760
you, I feel proud.
Yeah.

1732
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,280
I feel like a proud dad.
Yeah.

1733
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,720
You know, like, if I'm, if I'm
like, alright, like I'm gonna

1734
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,240
let Efron get me in the fucking
triangle and you finished that

1735
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,440
bitch.
I'm like damn.

1736
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,920
Right, because presumably you
know how to get out of that.

1737
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,360
You taught me.
Time out I got.

1738
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:19,280
This do it awesome jiu jitsu.
Yeah, yeah.

1739
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,760
Dude, I love Yeah so.
Oh, recording.

1740
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,160
Yeah, we're recording.
We're back, we're back.

1741
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,000
You got a beer on my finger.
Cheers too.

1742
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,320
Cheers.
Mother, hey, I just take pause.

1743
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,080
I just wanted to try and express
some gap, Oh, express some

1744
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:35,920
gratitude for you having me at
your house.

1745
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,800
Oh, don't be like that, man.
Bro, it's always good to to

1746
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,840
express some gratitude.
Yeah, man, I'm, I'm really happy

1747
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,480
you're here, man, because.
You didn't have to, you know.

1748
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:49,760
Hey, you know what dude, it's
first of all, I love sharing, I

1749
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,720
love hosting and you know dude,
like, I mean we spent 3 or 4

1750
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,400
mornings each other week, you
know?

1751
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,040
I mean, I'm happy to have you
over, dude.

1752
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,000
Chris, when Chris was here, he
was so funny, man.

1753
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,680
We were recording out here and
yeah, there's no and there's

1754
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,680
notebook and he comes on taking
notes of things he wanted to

1755
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,240
talk about.
We were smoking the whole time,

1756
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,160
like.
Are you ever going?

1757
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,320
To get out to these notes and
he's like, God, it's already the

1758
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,200
moment, it's already gone.
I can't forget about it.

1759
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,480
That's one thing I love about
jujitsu is because it reminds me

1760
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:20,440
of the Marine Corps and that
like you meet people from

1761
01:17:20,440 --> 01:17:25,920
different part walks of life and
then I've curated my gym to

1762
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,560
where it's like, assholes won't
survive.

1763
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,240
You know artistical people won't
survive, right?

1764
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,200
If you're there, it's because
you're of like mind or you won't

1765
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,320
survive then.
Yeah, you could tell.

1766
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,920
And like we, we talk a lot of
shit.

1767
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,680
There's a lot of play, but
there's a lot of seriousness

1768
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,200
when it comes to training and we
take care of each other like a

1769
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,480
family.
So there's like some of these

1770
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,800
invaluable relationships that I
build coming out of there.

1771
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,040
And I appreciate that because,
bro, I didn't grow up Mr.

1772
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,460
Popular.
I became Mr. Popular quote, UN

1773
01:17:59,460 --> 01:18:02,080
quote, when I got out the Marine
Corps.

1774
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,920
And it's like, oh, everybody
loves me because I'm a fucking

1775
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,400
veteran.
Yeah, you know, everybody loves

1776
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:07,760
me because I'm a fucking black
belt.

1777
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,640
You know, I'm not used to, I'm
not used to having so many

1778
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,600
people that that like me.
Yeah.

1779
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,280
In one place because I'm usually
the one that's misunderstood.

1780
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,480
And when I realizes that a lot
of people.

1781
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:24,280
I misunderstood.
I misunderstood and we all just

1782
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,680
come together and in that
misunderstanding and that being

1783
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,880
misunderstood, we find
understanding amongst each other

1784
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,240
because it's like we were
misunderstood because we were,

1785
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,800
we were in the wrong areas, we
were in the wrong tribe.

1786
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because a tribe is is is a group

1787
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,160
of people that come together
that have similar values for a

1788
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,360
common purpose, right?
That's what Tribe is.

1789
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,320
And this has to be just a common
purpose.

1790
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:46,880
Is getting better just being
better?

1791
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,520
Being.
Better human being.

1792
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,440
And yeah, dude, that's what I
was going to say, man.

1793
01:18:50,440 --> 01:18:52,960
I and I, I've said this probably
four or five times in the

1794
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,160
podcast already, but Eric, dude,
the one of the first classes and

1795
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,240
you, you snapped me out of this
because I get, I get proud,

1796
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,320
right?
And one of the first classes, he

1797
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,040
was like, OK, let's roll.
And like, he sits like this on

1798
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,240
the floor with his back to me.
I'm like, what the fuck, man?

1799
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:06,440
Get in here, man.
Like, what are you doing?

1800
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,360
And you said, Hey, we're all
here to learn and we're all here

1801
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:10,800
to teach each other.
If he's sitting on the floor

1802
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,160
with his back to you, I swear to
God he could handle it, you

1803
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,720
know?
And I was like, yeah, man, like

1804
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,040
I got to check my ego.
Like I was like, like, you know,

1805
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,960
like all he's trying to do is
help me learn.

1806
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,560
And this is my second or third
class.

1807
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,480
And I was like, and I was like,
everyone here, like you're not

1808
01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:28,880
here to, to when you're here to,
you're here to get better and to

1809
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,920
teach.
And like, I was like, that is so

1810
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,560
that's why I was like, this
place is awesome.

1811
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,800
That's, that's, that's when I
that's when I was like, we're

1812
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,280
sticking around this.
So happy you're doing it.

1813
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,960
Just like she's going to get a
membership when the year is

1814
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,600
over, closer, closer to home
instead of driving out, you

1815
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,560
know, 25 minutes in the morning
and each way.

1816
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,920
And I'm like, I want to say yes,
but I'm not.

1817
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,640
I, I can't, I, I can't leave
now.

1818
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,240
Like, like I'm in, I'm in, I'm
in, I'm screwed.

1819
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,440
Dude, you got me, man.
You got me.

1820
01:19:56,440 --> 01:20:01,280
The people, even guys like like
dude Alex, like I big Alex that,

1821
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,000
that with awesome hair and
whatever.

1822
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,760
Like, you know, I, I don't know
if we'd be best friends in the

1823
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,080
street, but he is so respectful
and so clear and like teaching

1824
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:12,640
me.
Oh really, dude?

1825
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,280
Great dude, love Alex, great
dude, great dude.

1826
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,400
And I was just like.
Just awesome.

1827
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,960
Yeah.
I really, I really, I love it.

1828
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,120
So do you compete?
Last time I competed was last

1829
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,400
January.
Really.

1830
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,160
There's another Marine who was a
cop and bro, I went to go grab

1831
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,560
him and like, he, he like, waved
his hands like this, like trying

1832
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,200
to like get away from me.
Bro.

1833
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,560
His fucking middle finger went
like that deep into my eye.

1834
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,520
I don't know if I've met you
yet.

1835
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:39,600
No, because you started in
March.

1836
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,040
Yeah bro, I had the biggest
black eye.

1837
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,040
Really.
Yeah the biggest black guy I'm

1838
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,000
like how the fuck do I get this
from jiu jitsu?

1839
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,480
But so I don't I don't compete
very often because there's this

1840
01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:53,640
saying where like you can't
serve 2 masters, OK, right.

1841
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,880
And where I where I the
principal of that is like, yo,

1842
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,760
you can't be a great coach and a
great competitor at the same

1843
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,000
time.
Yeah, right.

1844
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,440
I'm 39, bro.
Like I'm sure if I hop on some

1845
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:06,880
TRT, which I'm.
It's close here the.

1846
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,600
Phone with what?
What's holding you back?

1847
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,280
Because my testosterone's at
400.

1848
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,920
What's supposed to be?
Medically they say that this is

1849
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,520
OK you.
Don't want to be in the medical.

1850
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,920
OK, Ariel.
This is like average, like, oh,

1851
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,000
the average man has 400
testosterone.

1852
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,400
You're fine.
You're 39, you're good.

1853
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:30,320
But no, like they don't, they
don't account for the lifestyle

1854
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:35,240
where bro, I'm lifting weights.
Yeah, I'm doing jujitsu with

1855
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,920
fucking 29 year old Mike Knight,
who's in the best shape of his

1856
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:39,480
life.
Yeah.

1857
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,760
Dude.
Right, or, or or or fucking Alex

1858
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,640
who's ��250?
The idea, right?

1859
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,400
Like I have to be able to
compete with these guys in my

1860
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,000
gym.
I don't need to go anywhere.

1861
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,240
Right.
You don't need to be average,

1862
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:54,680
you need to be above average, do
you?

1863
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:59,920
Give me 800 to.
Be 1500 all crazy.

1864
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:05,200
I don't know give me 8 hundreds
like yeah, because what I'll do

1865
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,400
is because I don't have a big
ego when it comes to jiu jitsu

1866
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,800
right, But I I I'm competitive
as shit.

1867
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:18,080
So like Mike Knight, right like
him Alex, a guy name I call

1868
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,800
Luigi.
Who the who's his name is Danny,

1869
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,040
right?
Like so many of my purple belts

1870
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,960
are so fucking good that it's a
competition every time I go with

1871
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,680
them, whether they're more
athletic than me or they're like

1872
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,720
better at a certain aspect of
jiu jitsu than me, like we're

1873
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,680
going at it right?
Like sneaky black belt tricks

1874
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,800
keep me alive.
But it's like, bro, I'll go like

1875
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,880
the other day I went with like
this guy named Josh Marta.

1876
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,080
He's a cop and he's like really
good.

1877
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,240
He's one of our best
competitors.

1878
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:47,680
I don't know if you know him
because he doesn't come the.

1879
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,320
Morning class Thanos.
Thanos is amazing.

1880
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,920
That guy is huge.
Yeah but I love Thanos.

1881
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:58,040
You, you 2 are like my favorite.
Jews have very similar mindset.

1882
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,680
Said Thanos is a fucking
asshole.

1883
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:00,680
Is he?
I don't know.

1884
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,240
I, I, I've, I've talked to him
for 30 seconds.

1885
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,280
I never got a chance.
Because I was, I started my

1886
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,520
podcast.
And if you look up Drew Phoenix

1887
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,240
podcast, Oh, you have them.
It's me and Thanos.

1888
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:11,160
Really.
Yeah.

1889
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:12,560
We did the first episode
together.

1890
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,520
OK.
But that deal, I had a deal with

1891
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,680
a guy that he was gonna trade
for, like his podcast studio

1892
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:18,440
time.
Yeah.

1893
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,880
And that deal fell throughout
the episode 1.

1894
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,360
So man.
So I'm gonna build a podcast

1895
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:24,800
studio in the gym.
Are you?

1896
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,200
Yeah, dude, I'm gonna use it
then.

1897
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:26,840
All right?
Hell yeah.

1898
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,520
Drew Phoenix.
No, that's not Drew Phoenix.

1899
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,840
Podcast.
Drew Phoenix Podcast.

1900
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:36,480
DRUDR.
U ah shit I right So you were

1901
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:41,280
rolling with Luigi you said yeah
88 pep 88 episodes dude.

1902
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,520
No.
The Phoenix podcast, I'm sorry.

1903
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,520
Drew Phoenix.
You got to find it OK.

1904
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,880
Yeah, I'll send it to you.
Just just text me right now.

1905
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,400
Say send me podcast.
Yeah.

1906
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,800
Oh, so what'd you call it?
What was I saying?

1907
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:01,480
Oh, so like I went with like 4
of of, of like my good guys,

1908
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,400
yeah.
Bro I was dying on the floor

1909
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,160
afterwards really.
And bro, I was out for like 2

1910
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,440
fucking days really.
I had to recover.

1911
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:12,480
Yeah, right.
And my body hurts, so my back

1912
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:14,640
hurts, so my knees.
Do you do any of the cold the

1913
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,600
coach punch shit or anything?
I like cold plunge.

1914
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,440
I think cold plunge is fucking
stupid.

1915
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,320
The only thing I like about the
cold plunge is afterwards.

1916
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,240
Like, I feel like mentally
great, yeah.

1917
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,760
But everyone says it's about.
Yeah, but but like as far as

1918
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,560
recovery is concerned, from that
fucking sauna.

1919
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,640
Yeah.
Is there sauna?

1920
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,400
Oh fuck yeah.
Shit, let me know when you want

1921
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:35,720
to go in there.
I'll I'll fucking set it up for

1922
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:36,640
you.
Really.

1923
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,840
It's a benefit that I don't tell
most people about because I

1924
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,200
don't own it.
XPE owns it and we can use it,

1925
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,320
but you know, it's their shit.
So like I don't try to take

1926
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:45,440
advantage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1927
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,440
I'm already using their weights
even though I pay half the rent

1928
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:50,920
so I'm not really like.
I don't.

1929
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,400
Yeah, I don't feel too bad about
that, dude.

1930
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,080
Yeah, definitely not.
Yeah, yeah, they have cool.

1931
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:56,520
They have great athletes hanging
out there, right?

1932
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,880
Yeah, bro, because they they
train, they train guys trying to

1933
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,600
get into the NFL.
And then when those guys get

1934
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,680
into the NFL, they come back and
train during the offseason.

1935
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,680
So that's why like this January,
February, March, you'll see

1936
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,480
there's going to be a lot of
fucking giant football players.

1937
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,080
Yeah, I remember March towards
the end of the towards the end

1938
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,280
when I first started, there are
a bunch of athletes running.

1939
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:15,320
Around, yeah.
So you'll see them.

1940
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:16,600
They're going to start.
They're going to come in in

1941
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,160
January, that first Monday, back
after New Year's, you'll see

1942
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,440
them.
And it's going to be packed

1943
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,120
until March.
Crazy.

1944
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:23,640
That's cool.
Time in the gym, It's cool.

1945
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,360
To see, Yeah, that was nice,
right?

1946
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:30,680
For the most part, for the most
part, they're because it's like,

1947
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,880
I think a lot of them have the
understanding that, hey, you run

1948
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,960
around with the football and
like you bump into each other

1949
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,640
and you're like wrestle a little
bit.

1950
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,720
Like we have skills over here.
Now granted, if those guys get

1951
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,800
skills.
They're you're fucked.

1952
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,520
Terrifying.
Yeah.

1953
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:50,120
The problem with all
professional martial art

1954
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,440
athletes, whether it's MMA or
Jiu Jitsu, is that they don't

1955
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:55,960
get paid enough.
You imagine somebody making

1956
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,320
millions per contract and say
hey you could come make fucking

1957
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,320
10 grand doing jiu.
Jitsu.

1958
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:02,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, in a match, if you're

1959
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,720
lucky, yeah, you know, you could
get 10 grand in a may fight you.

1960
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:08,840
Know it's a really interesting
aspect of the sport.

1961
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:14,080
I I wonder if Paramount putting
all the money into it is going

1962
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,240
to change it.
And now Arab countries are

1963
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:17,640
putting a lot of money into it
too.

1964
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:19,440
It's absolutely going to change
it.

1965
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,920
Will we see good money in our
lifetime?

1966
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,960
Maybe towards the end because
you have to think right.

1967
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,480
When was the NFL created?
The NFL was huge.

1968
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,520
Immediately wasn't.
It no.

1969
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,560
No, you this year.
You like martial arts.

1970
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,400
More people than I've ever
dreamed of follow or participate

1971
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:43,320
in it.
Not for sure.

1972
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,960
It's huge now.
Yeah, because, OK, in 1992,

1973
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:47,840
that's when they hosted the
first UFC.

1974
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,440
Let's see which art martial art
is the best.

1975
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,240
Yeah.
But then a lot of people are

1976
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,080
like, yo, that's human cock
fighting because there were no

1977
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,520
rules whatever.
And then when Dana White and the

1978
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,240
Fertitta brothers took it over
and incorporated rules and

1979
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,720
bought in the boxing Commission
and all of that, that's when it

1980
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,360
became a mainstream sport,
right?

1981
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,240
So.
Share Open SO recording.

1982
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,720
Is the recording.
Yes, we are.

1983
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:08,960
Yeah, we're good.
Yeah.

1984
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:11,080
So that's when it became a
mainstream sport.

1985
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,680
So now we're talking about like.
It's taking 20 years for it to,

1986
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,680
like, grow.
Yeah, so that's why that's why

1987
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:20,000
people don't get paid a lot now.
Yeah, NF LS over 100 years old,

1988
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,480
right?
It's got to be.

1989
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:22,880
It's got to be.
It has got to be.

1990
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,440
So it had like 100?
And boxing is old as fuck too.

1991
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:27,600
Yeah.
So like and boxing or decent

1992
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:28,840
money in it, you know.
Yeah.

1993
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,160
Oh yeah, boxing.
You could get paid a lot more

1994
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,400
money doing boxing than you
would ever do MMA.

1995
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:37,760
Yeah, ever.
Yeah, Like Conor.

1996
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,480
McGregor Contracts.
Dude, yeah.

1997
01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:41,040
So like, you know Conor
McGregor, right?

1998
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:42,440
He was in our lifetime.
Yeah.

1999
01:27:42,440 --> 01:27:47,040
Conor McGregor changed the game
because he was the first MMA

2000
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,040
fighter to get $1 million.
To fight, really.

2001
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,120
Like contractual, yeah, yeah, $1
million for this.

2002
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:54,720
Yeah.
And this is 2016.

2003
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,160
And that's nothing, by the way,
like not to be speaking, dude,

2004
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:58,560
but.
For MMA fighter, yeah, it's

2005
01:27:58,560 --> 01:27:59,920
crazy.
These guys that I trained, they

2006
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:02,520
get paid like 300 to to show up,
300 to win.

2007
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,680
Yeah bro, it is.
It is criminal, Yeah it is, but

2008
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,120
there's not a lot of money in
the sport yet.

2009
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,520
That's why I feel bad for, you
know, like there are dudes that

2010
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,600
like are literally professional
fighters that like spent decades

2011
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,400
of their lives doing this.
And you know when their when

2012
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:19,960
their career is done, they'll
have a penny to their name.

2013
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:24,120
It's sad, you know?
And you have a great skill, you

2014
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,080
know, if you want to talk about
skill, skill.

2015
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,760
And by the way, it's
entertaining as hell too.

2016
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,360
If you want to talk about like
commercial appeal and value,

2017
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,920
dude, for sure it is.
And you know why?

2018
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,920
Part of the reason is taboos.
I I think that people are

2019
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,320
looking at it more now like an
art than they call than like a

2020
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,320
cock fight.
Yeah.

2021
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,880
Well, look at like.
Absolutely, Yeah, This is this

2022
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,560
is a sport, you know, you're
watching and you're like, like,

2023
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,160
dude, my my friends were
watching and it happens to be

2024
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,520
you could tell like, for
example, like this is like

2025
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,560
what's his name when Islam just
fought?

2026
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:56,240
You can tell like who is
appreciating what component of

2027
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,520
the sport based on what people
thought of the fight.

2028
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,560
Same thing with DDP when he
fought Chermayev.

2029
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,040
You know, like I was like, this
guy's, I was like, Chermayev's

2030
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,160
crazy, all my friends.
Like this is the most boring

2031
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,520
fight I've ever seen.
I'm like grapples.

2032
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:08,480
You.
Grapples you.

2033
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,160
Know.
DDP taking it this whole time.

2034
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,760
He's he won five rounds.
I'm like, this guy should not be

2035
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,120
alive right now.
You know, like, yeah, it's

2036
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:18,480
crazy.
It's really cool.

2037
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,200
It's definitely crazy.
And then if you think about

2038
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,880
like, I'm glad you talked about
like the different, like people

2039
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,680
appreciate in different aspects
because as an MMA fighter, it's

2040
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,240
not like a like a football
player, right, If you're a

2041
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:29,280
quarterback.
Yeah.

2042
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:35,720
All you like, you train to know
routes to throw the ball, to

2043
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,160
scramble in and out of the
pocket, to stay in the pocket

2044
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,840
like you like.
It's one specific skill of the

2045
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,920
quarterback, yeah.
And the running back has a

2046
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,040
specific skill, right?
And the cornerback.

2047
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,800
And it's all compartmentalize
MMA.

2048
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,040
There's no such thing as that.
And.

2049
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,400
If you do, you don't make it.
No, right.

2050
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:56,120
You have to know everything.
Yeah, because back in 1992, when

2051
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,160
nobody knew jujitsu, if you knew
jujitsu, you're fucking

2052
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,560
everybody up.
Yeah, right.

2053
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,280
But now the American wrestling
comes in, and the jujitsu and

2054
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,200
the fucking sure, the Taekwondo
and the boxing like Ilia

2055
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:10,040
Taporia, the Taporia brothers,
and they're boxing for MMA.

2056
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:13,320
And you know that he apparently,
allegedly he says that he only

2057
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,040
started training boxing when he
was like 17 or 18 and he was

2058
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,240
doing jiu jitsu and told that
like jiu jitsu is a real sport

2059
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,960
apparently or like a real skill.
Bro you never I've never seen

2060
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,400
him do jiu jitsu.
Yo go back and watch the pori.

2061
01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:26,200
There's a video where Taporio is
like flowing through different

2062
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,120
submissions.
Yeah, he was fucking up.

2063
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:29,800
What's his name?
Who's that lunatic?

2064
01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:32,960
Oh God.
Anti Semite loves it.

2065
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,920
Like loves loves Nazis.
Shit.

2066
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,480
He just lost a bunch of fights,
but he was looking really good

2067
01:30:39,480 --> 01:30:41,600
for a long time.
You know what I'm talking about.

2068
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,080
Dana White got pissed off him
recently.

2069
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:48,320
What are you?
Talking about he fought him

2070
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,640
before the title.
Real country guy.

2071
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,560
Real country guy.
Real country guy.

2072
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,120
I don't know his.
Name that nasty is his nickname.

2073
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,440
Bryce Mitchell.
Bryce Mitchell.

2074
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:03,760
Google WFC Fighter Country.
Bryce Mitchell Mirab and Corey

2075
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:09,760
Sandhagan come up first.
Why I I could, I could, I could

2076
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,960
understand more.
Rob, Corey Sanhagan, I don't

2077
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,280
know.
I don't know, dude, I think it's

2078
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,240
just association that people
look up people that just do my

2079
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,080
white, you know, white dude,
that's, you know, fighting like

2080
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,480
that could be a country, country
lunatic.

2081
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,960
But yeah, dude, his jujitsu was
crazy there.

2082
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,800
And you know what else, dude?
Armand who's getting keeps

2083
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:28,280
getting passed over for a title,
dude.

2084
01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:30,280
Armand is amazing.
Why does he keep getting paid?

2085
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,800
You see, it's Paddy versus
Gaichi for, for, for the for the

2086
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,280
belt.
And he just defended the number

2087
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,280
one spot again.
Because UFC cares more about

2088
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,960
putting ass in seats than being
fair.

2089
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,840
So do you think that goes with
the money component when there's

2090
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,000
more asses in the seat, there's
more potential money, more

2091
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:47,520
revenue and then you can pay the
fighters more?

2092
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,080
So like long term it's better.
But like Connor put asses in

2093
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,640
seats which is why he got.
The $1,000,000 contract.

2094
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,160
Because This is why I tell my
fighters I'm like, yo, you can't

2095
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,120
just be a good fighter.
Is he entertaining?

2096
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:03,040
You need to be entertaining, but
you could be the most

2097
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,480
entertaining fighter if you get
on the mic and you can't.

2098
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,600
You don't know how to, like,
sell yourself.

2099
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,920
Yeah.
Then like, OK, I got Ozzy,

2100
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,320
right.
Ozzy is one of my pro fighters.

2101
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,800
Ozzy is actually a black Jew.
OK.

2102
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,720
Like born in Israel.
Cool.

2103
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,760
Like his dad is from Atlanta, I
believe.

2104
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,680
But like, went to Israel and
like, they have like, a

2105
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:26,760
community there.
Lives in Israel still born

2106
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,080
Jewish.
Born there in Israel.

2107
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,640
Yeah.
Ozzy when he gets on the mic,

2108
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,320
bro, it's magic.
Because he's a salesman, dude.

2109
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,880
Bro, yeah.
And bro, if there was his first

2110
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,960
professional fight, it was just
in the height of the Israel

2111
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:48,240
Palestine like, like it might
have been like October, the end

2112
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:49,720
of October when he fought,
right?

2113
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,920
So it was like fresh.
And I don't want to butcher what

2114
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,200
he says.
Just look up Ozzy a Boyd and his

2115
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,640
post fight speech was fucking
beautiful.

2116
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,120
Yeah, because he had the Israeli
flag strapped on his back and he

2117
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,520
was like, listen, like what's
fucked up?

2118
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,080
What's wrong is wrong.
And like the way that he broke

2119
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,000
down what was going on, He's
just like, yo, he's like, I just

2120
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,400
don't want no more killing.
Yeah, let's get to some some

2121
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,200
resolution.
Like, yeah, it was fucking

2122
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,520
beautiful.
Like everything this man says on

2123
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,760
the mic is, is, is is amazing.
Yeah.

2124
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,440
And also he's a showman when
he's inside the cage, like he

2125
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:24,480
likes to show off.
Yeah.

2126
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,800
He's really good at fighting.
His record doesn't reflect it

2127
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,360
right now.
OK, what about?

2128
01:33:29,480 --> 01:33:32,120
It what about it?
Oh, wait.

2129
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,200
The other thing I heard people
talking about MMA, about UFC in

2130
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,000
general, MMA, is that record,
like an undefeated record

2131
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:39,840
doesn't mean as much as what
boxing does.

2132
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,720
Like Charles Oliveira, he said
12 losses or something like

2133
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,400
that.
You know, like everyone thinks

2134
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,600
Olivera is like a, like a great,
you know?

2135
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,400
Because in MMA, all you got to
do is string together like four

2136
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:53,040
wins, 4 impressive wins.
If you knock four people out in

2137
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,200
a row, you're MMA God for that
time period.

2138
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,480
Yeah, Right.
So you could go on a losing

2139
01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:00,480
streak as long as you get that
434 in a row.

2140
01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:02,080
Yeah.
You're fine, Still working on

2141
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:02,760
that?
Yeah.

2142
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,360
Yeah.
He's have a lot of luck, dude.

2143
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:08,720
Wow.
He's still, he's still fighting.

2144
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,520
Yeah, we just went to Atlanta
and we lost the fight.

2145
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,440
Yeah.
Do you know, like how much do

2146
01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:17,560
you study these?
How often do you study these

2147
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:18,840
fights?
Do you study the opponents

2148
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:19,760
before the fights?
After.

2149
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,720
Because I, we were talking
before I I did a pre.

2150
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,680
I'm going to do another podcast
hopefully after.

2151
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,480
I hope you win Sydney, because
my friend Joe's is his trainer,

2152
01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:31,240
his weight lifting trainer and
great dude.

2153
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:32,240
By the way, I should introduce
you to him.

2154
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:35,240
You'd love him.
He's Cuban and Venezuelan.

2155
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,880
Great dude.
Also Marine or Navy, one of the

2156
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:39,480
two.
OK.

2157
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:42,480
And so either he's cool or he's
not.

2158
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,960
Yeah, he's cool anyway, but he
he's cool or he's not.

2159
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:48,720
The different branches of
service talk shit about it.

2160
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:54,080
Yeah, for sure, I did for sure.
So he so he so Cindy and I were

2161
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,720
talking and I was like, dude,
you how you're the guy you're

2162
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,400
fighting.
What's he good at?

2163
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,680
Because like the last fight that
Cindy lost, he was getting

2164
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:03,960
elbowed non-stop and he didn't
have any answer to it.

2165
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,160
And like he was like kind of
getting like control on top.

2166
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:08,920
Like as far as jiu jitsu goes,
he's keeping control.

2167
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,560
But like the guy just kept on
like doing more damage to him

2168
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:12,960
and he didn't have any answer to
it.

2169
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:14,000
And he?
Wasn't cut by Bellator.

2170
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:14,800
You're talking about the black
guy?

2171
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,120
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2172
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,160
And he got cut by Bellator and.
Now the guy he had on the floor

2173
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,960
is really fucking good, really.
He's very crafty with his jiu

2174
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,080
jitsu.
He's fucking amazing dude.

2175
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,720
So for Sydney, be able to to
control him like that.

2176
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:33,480
Yeah, so he's like, I felt like
my control, but controlling him

2177
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:35,320
was like enough to like get the
win.

2178
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:36,640
And it wasn't because it went
down to just.

2179
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:42,320
MMA 2012, Sydney would have won.
Yeah, but now, OK, so the thing

2180
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:46,000
about it is like the judges came
from boxing, right?

2181
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,400
Because it's part of the boxing
Commission.

2182
01:35:48,440 --> 01:35:53,600
So a lot of the judges, they
don't have an in depth

2183
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:57,480
understanding of MMA, which is
what Dana White's gripe is about

2184
01:35:57,480 --> 01:36:00,400
the judges was what what
especially Joe Rogan's gripe is

2185
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:05,520
about the judges.
So judging back then, Sydney

2186
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:06,800
would have won that fight,
right?

2187
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:13,480
But around like mid 2010, sorry,
like 2015, 2016 around there,

2188
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,440
yeah, they started to judge what
the guys doing on the bottom

2189
01:36:16,440 --> 01:36:20,080
because they realized that
playing a guard in jiu jitsu is

2190
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:21,880
just as effective as being on
top.

2191
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,720
So, like, you're not gonna judge
Charles Oliveira from being on

2192
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,400
his back, right, because he's
fucking elbowing you.

2193
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,000
He's working himself to a
triangle.

2194
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,640
He's gonna end up on your back.
Yeah, like, you have to.

2195
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,880
Yeah, you have to, to, to and.
His back is an advantage to him.

2196
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:36,400
Is an advantage to him.
Yeah, right.

2197
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,240
So the guy Sydney fought is the
same thing.

2198
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,880
That guy kept elbowing him.
He kept doing shit to Sydney, so

2199
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,120
Sydney was not.
And if Sydney wasn't causing any

2200
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:46,840
damage, right?
So I was so I was like, dude,

2201
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,840
but if you studied this guy
before, you would know that he

2202
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,600
would do that, no.
Well, here's the thing.

2203
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,120
This there there's a there's a
double edged sword when it comes

2204
01:36:55,120 --> 01:37:00,960
to studying somebody.
OK, I forgot which fighter GSP.

2205
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:02,920
OK.
Yeah, GSP.

2206
01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:06,560
Let's go.
Nothing.

2207
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,600
We are all good just closing a
couple of windows that we don't

2208
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,880
need because apparently it's
overheating.

2209
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:17,880
Shit.
OK, You all good?

2210
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:19,920
OK.
Yeah, GSP.

2211
01:37:20,440 --> 01:37:26,520
So GSP, him and his coaches
refuse to let GSP fight unless

2212
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,160
there's six months in between
fights.

2213
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,600
Really to?
Recover being not to recover.

2214
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:36,760
The reason being is that it
takes you 6 months to adapt and

2215
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:41,320
be able to, I can't think of the
word I'm trying to use big

2216
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,840
words, but for you to show new
skills, yeah, for you to be able

2217
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:48,720
to confidently use new you.
Know the holes in your game too.

2218
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:50,680
Yeah.
And to use new skills, it's six

2219
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,440
months, OK, to battle against
what you're talking about.

2220
01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:57,160
Like they could study GSP in one
fight and they're like, oh, all

2221
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:58,680
he does is wrestle and this is
how he does it.

2222
01:37:59,480 --> 01:38:01,640
But he's had six months to
develop a new game.

2223
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,320
So if you stay married to the
idea that he's going to do every

2224
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:08,040
time he steps with his right
leg, he's going to take a punch

2225
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,720
and shoot because he's been
showing that in his last fight,

2226
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,320
his next fight, he's going to
step with the left leg, throw a

2227
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,120
hook and then shoot.
Yeah, you know, he's going to do

2228
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,560
an overhand and then do a shoot.
I wonder if that's happened with

2229
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,760
Pereira and Uncle of the second
time because Pereira finished

2230
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:22,800
him in a minute.
Dude.

2231
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,440
I mean, and I it doesn't.
It didn't even look like Uncle

2232
01:38:24,440 --> 01:38:26,200
was at all ready for anything.
True.

2233
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,640
And you know, Pereira said that
that first fight, he was sick,

2234
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:31,280
injured about it.
He was injured.

2235
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,120
It showed.
That second fight, he's like,

2236
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,200
I'm gonna fuck.
Yeah, you saw it.

2237
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,360
We just fucking went out there.
He's like, let's go.

2238
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:44,720
Yeah, the first round did.
I was so happy because, yo, I

2239
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:48,360
didn't like, I didn't like Alex
at first because I liked Izzy.

2240
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,600
Yeah.
But then after his whole Izzy

2241
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:51,720
beef stopped.
Yeah.

2242
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,840
I fucking became such a fan bro.
When he did comes out, he's just

2243
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,160
like with that music and then he
shoot the arrow like.

2244
01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:03,120
Dude, my crazy, my first fight
that I watched that got me to go

2245
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:08,480
to the gym was UFC 300 was I
watched the IT was Holloway

2246
01:39:08,480 --> 01:39:11,240
Gaichi that that huge knockout
dude.

2247
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:14,200
And I watched that and I was
losing my mind.

2248
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,880
And then the next and then the
next fight, Pereira fights Hill

2249
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,120
and like I just saw a five round
or was it three or five round

2250
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,600
slugfest, right.
And then Pereira just

2251
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,200
assassinates him and I'm like.
What is this?

2252
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,200
Is that why he pushed the
reference?

2253
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:28,960
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, because he got like

2254
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:29,480
a ball.
Tab.

2255
01:39:29,480 --> 01:39:31,160
And he's like, he's like, come
on, I got this.

2256
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:34,320
I'm OK, yeah.
It's amazing.

2257
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:36,240
I was, I I, I haven't missed a
fight since.

2258
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,920
I haven't missed a fight, you
know, like a fight card since

2259
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,080
then.
Dude, I like dude, I was like,

2260
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:44,120
this sport got me, man.
I'm this sport got me, man.

2261
01:39:44,480 --> 01:39:47,360
It's amazing.
It's a, it's a, a big blessing.

2262
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,880
It's an honor for me to be like
a coach in the sport.

2263
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,680
And I just, I love being in this
environment and I love being

2264
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,760
around warriors.
Yeah, you know, because there

2265
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,400
there's a guy who wrote a book,
Robert Moore, the king warrior

2266
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,560
magician lover.
And he talks about how men have

2267
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,840
4 archetypes that that develop
our psyche.

2268
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,240
And the way, the easiest way to
understand is look at all the

2269
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:11,360
Ninja Turtles, OK, OK, so you
have king, warrior, magician,

2270
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,600
lover.
OK, now all of the Ninja

2271
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,280
Turtles, their base is a warrior
because, you know, they they

2272
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:17,360
that's what they do.
They're warriors.

2273
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:21,160
But Leonardo King, right?
He issues orders.

2274
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,320
He's the leader.
Yeah, Rafael is the warrior.

2275
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,880
He fucking takes action.
He's one of the fight and die

2276
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:28,040
for what he believes in.
Yeah.

2277
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,520
Michelangelo lover.
He fucking loves what he's

2278
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:31,160
doing.
Yeah.

2279
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,520
Donatello magician.
He has fucking skills, right?

2280
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:36,600
He's always coming up with some
crazy inventions.

2281
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,600
And you need to you got to focus
on each of them.

2282
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,600
Right.
Usually though, you gravitate

2283
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,640
towards 2.
Me.

2284
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,080
I've been a warrior lover for my
entire fucking life, and now

2285
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,440
I've had to transition to being
a king because I'm a leader of

2286
01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:51,200
the gym, right?
Right, so.

2287
01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:53,440
Totally different experience.
Totally different experience.

2288
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,360
So like to be a warrior, right?
I talked about this in, in, in

2289
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,720
the the podcast with Thanos and
he gave me a little push back,

2290
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:00,240
right?
Because he doesn't like it.

2291
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:02,680
He like like he thinks like, oh,
being associated with a warrior,

2292
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:04,720
like, oh, you're trying to be
like big like, yeah.

2293
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,360
And that's not what I mean when
I talk about a warrior.

2294
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:13,320
It's just somebody who like very
basically, like you come to a

2295
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:17,960
mat in a padded room and you sit
there and you try to hurt your

2296
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,200
friends.
And in the act of hurting your

2297
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:25,360
friends, you become closer, OK.
And you laugh and joke and you

2298
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,120
go through it, you know, because
what happens at the end of every

2299
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:29,880
practice, we sit around and talk
a little shit.

2300
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,600
Yeah.
You know, so it's like some

2301
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,240
people don't understand that.
Like, I was dating.

2302
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:42,320
So during the pandemic, I used
to live with with this, this

2303
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,680
girl who was the purple belt
cool named Diane.

2304
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:49,400
She was an artist and she, I had
an apartment in Fort Lauderdale.

2305
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,600
My family had fell on some hard
times, so I said they could go

2306
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,720
to the apartment.
Diane needed a roommate.

2307
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,800
So I was like, OK, fuck it.
Like, I'll go, I'll go be her

2308
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,400
roommate because I never looked
at her once and was attracted to

2309
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:00,640
her.
She's an attractive girl, but I

2310
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,840
never was attracted to her
because a lot of the girls I

2311
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,480
train with, like, I'm not
attracted to.

2312
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,000
Yeah.
It's like you get sweaty and

2313
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:09,880
stinky just like I never make it
weird.

2314
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,560
Yeah.
Even though sometimes like I may

2315
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:13,360
like push off and touch a titty
or something.

2316
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,680
Not like I'm like never like Oh
my God.

2317
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:17,920
I.
Just touched a titty.

2318
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:26,880
It's just like, yeah, sorry, you
know, so, so Diane, you know,

2319
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,600
she had a place and she is a
nice place and she needed the

2320
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:30,760
roommate.
I was like, oh, let me do it,

2321
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:32,240
you know, get my family, my, my
apartment.

2322
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,280
And that and, and the pandemic
had just happened right after we

2323
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,560
moved in.
So she's dating this dude,

2324
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:41,960
right?
And she, she's an artist.

2325
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,880
So she had artist friends and
she had jujitsu friends and she

2326
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,240
was like OK all I need him to do
is meet my jiu jitsu friends

2327
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:48,720
because he passed the test of my
artist friend.

2328
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,840
So that night me and Diane
literally try to beat the shit

2329
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:57,200
out of each other and she had a
dinner party so that the jiu

2330
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:03,080
jitsu friends can meet the guy.
And me and Diane were excited

2331
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,720
talking about like, oh, when you
did this, I tried this.

2332
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:08,760
I tried that because it was
really a chess match.

2333
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,120
Like I wasn't trying to use
strength on her.

2334
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,480
Like it was really like skill
for skill, like going back and

2335
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:13,840
forth, back and forth.
And Diane's really good at

2336
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,240
triangles and arm bars.
OK, fucking really good.

2337
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:18,360
So like you escape on me like oh
shit, like I'm out like.

2338
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:21,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I try to throw her and

2339
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,400
she did this and you know, it's
fucking crazy.

2340
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:24,560
And we're like laughing about
it.

2341
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:28,040
That guy was at the table with
us, visibly uncomfortable.

2342
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,280
Yeah, I didn't catch on until
afterwards.

2343
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:31,480
Like, oh shit, he's not going to
like that.

2344
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,800
Yeah.
Bro literally couple days after

2345
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:36,640
that conversation he just
disappeared.

2346
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:40,680
Yeah, wouldn't talk to her
because he just couldn't like.

2347
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:41,680
Hey, couldn't deal with it.
By the way.

2348
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,680
I, I, I kind of hear that if
you're, if you're not part of

2349
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,800
the world, I could see how it's
like the most platonic thing in

2350
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,800
the world and like the most
professional.

2351
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,240
It's, it's intimate and
professional at the same time.

2352
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,920
Like, and I think that everyone
understands that like there's

2353
01:43:55,920 --> 01:44:00,400
like space that's like typically
not like, you know, I give like

2354
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,960
the lazy river dude.
Like the lazy river, you always

2355
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,000
end up like bumping up against
someone that like, yeah, like,

2356
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,720
oh, it's like I'm a little close
to like me hanging out and like,

2357
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,280
yeah, you know, I never thought
of like hanging out like to each

2358
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:12,680
other.
Like my arm is like bumping into

2359
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:13,560
you.
I'm like, oh, I'm sorry.

2360
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:17,200
Like, you know, old grandma or
hot or hot girl, like sorry

2361
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:20,480
about that, you know, but like
other like fat dude in Disney

2362
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:23,280
World, you know, like sorry, but
like Jujitsu's too is like, like

2363
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:26,320
you also like ascribe me to the
fact that like we're going into

2364
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,560
the gym to fight our bodies like
on the line and like, nothing

2365
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,680
we're doing is like
disrespectful or like, like this

2366
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,240
is like a place of like
something art.

2367
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:36,640
Like this is a place of art.
Yeah, right.

2368
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,040
But like if you're not in that,
you're like, what the fuck is

2369
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:39,760
this shit?
You know?

2370
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:41,240
Like this is weird as hell.
Between his legs.

2371
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,880
Like I'm, I'm, I'm teaching you
triangles, right triangles,

2372
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:46,520
Literally me in between your.
Legs.

2373
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right, you choking me with your

2374
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,760
legs?
Yeah, you're fucking nuts are on

2375
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:55,520
my right, but do I ever think
about like, oh shit, fucking

2376
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,080
Efron's nuts are right?
I know.

2377
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:58,040
You're thinking about.
No, I'm.

2378
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,080
Thinking like, you know, if I
don't get out of here, I'm

2379
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:04,400
fucking dead.
Yeah, yeah, I guess, you know,

2380
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,720
that's like, it's like when
things are harder, you don't

2381
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,360
worry about the littler things,
you know, like when things are

2382
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,400
more difficult.
And that's why when things are

2383
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,960
too good, you get like wimpy,
you know, like complaints and

2384
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:17,480
shit like that.
You're like, like, how come you

2385
01:45:17,480 --> 01:45:19,840
don't hear about like, you know,
and like, I've heard this

2386
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,040
argument about America and like
other countries, like you didn't

2387
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:25,600
see like LGBTQ parade, you know,
parades in like Colombia, like

2388
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:26,760
they're not as rich as we
fucking are.

2389
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:28,560
That everyone's just walking
around being like, I want to

2390
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,080
express my sexuality here.
You're like, yeah, you're like,

2391
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,240
dude, we got like to put like
food on the table.

2392
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,440
Like we got like, I got to get
water for my family.

2393
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:36,520
Yeah, yeah.
You know, like we got to do

2394
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,320
shit, you know, like I'm not
worried about this shit, you

2395
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,200
know?
So I think that, you know, it's,

2396
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,200
I think that all this is the
same thing when there's

2397
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,840
different stakes, different
things mean different things.

2398
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:46,200
But I also think that you have
to be in that world.

2399
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,080
I get where that dude's coming.
From No, absolutely.

2400
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:50,400
You know, that's why, like, when
people start talking about

2401
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:54,200
privilege, right?
Yeah, I can understand what

2402
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:57,280
you're talking about, right?
OK Like, it's like white

2403
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,200
privilege, right?
I understand what white

2404
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:06,440
privilege means, OK.
However, I think that when you

2405
01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:09,800
travel around the world, you
gain a, a really good

2406
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,920
perspective, right?
And it helps guide you in a, in

2407
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:17,720
a great way.
So, for example, I've never been

2408
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,600
to a house in America that
didn't have a fridge, right?

2409
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,840
I've never been to a house in
America that didn't have a

2410
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:23,720
microwave.
Yeah.

2411
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:26,560
I've been to a few houses, a
couple of houses I know.

2412
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:28,880
You're saying?
I know you're saying yeah, yeah,

2413
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:32,200
you're smart if you don't have a
microwave, but a stove?

2414
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:37,960
Even if you're laying on a
fucking air mattress, there's a

2415
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,080
stove.
Yep, there's a fridge.

2416
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,680
Yep, you probably have either an
AC or a heater.

2417
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:43,840
You'd probably have one of the
other.

2418
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:47,240
Probably.
Bro I've been to I've lived 2

2419
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,880
1/2 years in Africa combined
right crazy.

2420
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:54,840
I'll station in China as well.
OK OK I seen what real fucking

2421
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:59,960
poverty is buddy.
Africans are the most hospitable

2422
01:46:59,960 --> 01:47:02,760
people that I've ever been
around in those two countries.

2423
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,920
And I was in Guinea and I was in
Niger W Africans, super

2424
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,960
hospitable.
I was rich in their eyes.

2425
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:11,480
Yeah, OK.
And they used to invite me to

2426
01:47:11,480 --> 01:47:15,080
their mud huts to fucking eat.
Amazing.

2427
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,120
Right, because I took a liking
to their culture, I figured out

2428
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,800
that, like in Africa, it's not
like, oh, I'm black and you're

2429
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:21,480
not.
Yeah.

2430
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,360
It's like I'm from the Susu
tribe.

2431
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:26,520
You're Mandingo.
You're you're you know, there's

2432
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:30,680
a different tribe.
Yeah.

2433
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,480
I think of the names right now.
Dulani, Right.

2434
01:47:33,480 --> 01:47:36,160
There's like different tribes.
That's how they identify

2435
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:36,920
themselves.
Right.

2436
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:41,240
OK, So with me, they're like,
oh, like you like us, like, come

2437
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:42,120
to my house.
Yeah.

2438
01:47:42,440 --> 01:47:45,760
So like the wife would bring,
like, a plate full of couscous

2439
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,440
and just throw a fucking hand on
top and throw a bunch of sauce.

2440
01:47:48,480 --> 01:47:50,120
Yeah.
And it's like a big ass dish.

2441
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:51,920
And it's like, you're there,
you're there, you're there.

2442
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,720
Let's and let's fucking eat.
Let's go, you know?

2443
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:57,960
So I'm in somebody's mud Hut
doing this.

2444
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:02,000
There is no AC here.
Yeah, some people have

2445
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:04,160
electricity.
Some people have a water bottle

2446
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,840
that's stuck on top in a hole
that when the sun shines on it,

2447
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,520
the water, no, it doesn't heat
it up.

2448
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:14,160
The water creates the light.
Oh shit, really?

2449
01:48:14,440 --> 01:48:16,880
Instead of electricity.
Instead of electricity, this is

2450
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:18,720
how these people live.
Wow.

2451
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:20,240
Right.
And then, you know, something

2452
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:21,960
one person told me brought me to
his mud Hut.

2453
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,760
He was like, hey, he's like, one
thing about Africa is that we

2454
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,000
would never starve.
Because if I have a pot of rice,

2455
01:48:28,480 --> 01:48:31,160
we have a pot of rice.
And he pointed like down to the

2456
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:32,080
neighborhood.
Yeah.

2457
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,560
And I was like, fuck.
So it's like when.

2458
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:36,600
You you think if you think if
they're all rich, they keep that

2459
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,960
same mentality.
I don't know, right?

2460
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:41,800
Because poverty brings out the
best in you, right?

2461
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:43,760
It could.
It could, Yeah, Yeah, you're

2462
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:44,400
right.
Yeah, it could.

2463
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:46,880
It could, right.
But also, you know, in in

2464
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaking of it, right, for a,
say conversation, being rich can

2465
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:51,280
too, because you if you share.
Sure, sure.

2466
01:48:51,440 --> 01:48:53,360
If you share I was talking to my
sister about this yesterday.

2467
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:58,600
I think that money, just like
alcohol almost accentuates

2468
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,520
what's in US, you know, and if
you've got like a good like if

2469
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:04,080
like I was talking to my sister
about this yesterday, because

2470
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:05,920
we're both talking about how
like we're working towards like

2471
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,720
we're listen, like we're we,
she's she, we both have two

2472
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:10,120
kids.
We both have a mortgage.

2473
01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:12,520
We both are trying to like make
our way through the world And

2474
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,720
like, you know, I mean, things
are not as comfortable as we

2475
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,400
would let you know, as we as and
as everyone would always like

2476
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:20,600
more, right?
You know, and we're like, but

2477
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:22,360
we're working towards it and
we're learning to appreciate

2478
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:23,680
what we have.
And I was like, and then when we

2479
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,800
do have it, we're not happy
because we have money.

2480
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,040
We're happy because we're happy
and money helps us too, you

2481
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,000
know, like, and we're like,
that's fucking awesome, you

2482
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:33,640
know?
But people get, you know, I know

2483
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:37,120
that I know a lot of people that
get rich overnight and if

2484
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:41,040
they're not worked on, they it's
like, it just accentuates

2485
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:44,880
whatever they're already like,
but times more, you know, like

2486
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,360
if you're in a shitty mood and
you drink a bunch of beer,

2487
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:48,760
you're just in a bad mood.
You're just like a angry dude.

2488
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:50,600
You know, you're in a green mood
and you drink a bunch of beer

2489
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:51,720
like, Oh yeah, everyone's like
best friend.

2490
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:53,360
I fucking love everyone.
You know, I think, I think it's

2491
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,080
the same thing.
Yeah, so hot button subject,

2492
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:56,560
right?
Yeah, Andrew Tate talks about

2493
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,720
that a lot.
Dude, what's this guy's deal?

2494
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,160
OK, so I'm I'm gonna tell you I.
Don't know anything about him.

2495
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,440
I'm I have like a natural
aversion just because of what

2496
01:50:05,440 --> 01:50:06,600
I've heard about.
I don't know anything about.

2497
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:10,960
Him OK, so just to give you a
back history of him, right,

2498
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:16,520
Andrew Tate's dad was a grand
champion chess master, a grand,

2499
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,480
a Grand Master in chess.
OK.

2500
01:50:19,480 --> 01:50:24,120
And that's what he did for work.
For work, yes.

2501
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,880
So naturally he taught his kids
chess.

2502
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,360
And Andrew Tate has a high ass
ELO.

2503
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:33,280
How you do one thing, you do
everything.

2504
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:37,880
So because I knew this history
about him, I knew that in

2505
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,560
looking at him, when everybody's
talking shit, you can't take it

2506
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,360
for face value.
You really got to dig in because

2507
01:50:43,480 --> 01:50:47,080
if it's just some asshole on the
Internet talking shit, right,

2508
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,600
you could take that like, like
there's plenty of assholes on

2509
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,680
the Internet talking shit that I
can't fucking stand.

2510
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:57,200
Yeah, because I know that Tate
is such a good chess player, it

2511
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:59,720
made me more open to see what
he's doing.

2512
01:50:59,960 --> 01:51:06,000
So in I forgot what year it was.
It might have been 2022.

2513
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:12,440
Andrew Tay got really popular
because what he did is he told

2514
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,120
he has a school called Hustlers
University.

2515
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:16,600
Right.
That's like a marketing thing,

2516
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:19,400
right?
Well, he teaches people what

2517
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:24,040
what he says is like 12 modern,
I think it's 12 modern wealth

2518
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:26,400
creation methods, which is like
usually from the Internet.

2519
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,000
And he says that he teaches
people just how to make money.

2520
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:32,600
So it's like, it's like you
could go into the school and you

2521
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,000
could like pick a subject like
AI and then like there's a guy

2522
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,280
like a professor there that will
will teach you everything there

2523
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:38,880
is to know the AI to start
making money.

2524
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,560
OK.
And he says that he, he wants

2525
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:45,080
people to get rich because he
doesn't like just having such

2526
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,720
few friends or whatever like or
some shit goes down.

2527
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,000
Like he wants people to be able
to support him.

2528
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,920
So like that's his that's what
he says is why he does that,

2529
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:54,040
right.
So.

2530
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,080
Bigger chest move, yeah.
Yeah, right.

2531
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:57,720
Because like, if some shit goes
down, he's going to need big

2532
01:51:57,760 --> 01:51:59,520
pictures.
Because you start off with the

2533
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,120
Hustlers University and then you
could go and like, you could pay

2534
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:06,120
X amount of money to become like
part of like his, like his

2535
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:08,640
organization.
And then like, you could like do

2536
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,520
meet ups with him and shit.
And then like when he trusts you

2537
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:11,720
enough, he like brings you in
the circle.

2538
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:13,400
OK, Right.
That's like his thing.

2539
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:18,200
OK, OK.
If you look at a lot of the

2540
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,240
things that he did when he was
blowing up on the Internet in

2541
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,760
the Hustlers University, he's
like, yo, if you take my videos

2542
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,680
and you just make little clips
and post them on Instagram, post

2543
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:29,360
them on YouTube, post them on
Twitter, post them on wherever.

2544
01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:32,680
Yeah, right.
You can get X amount of money if

2545
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:34,800
they sign up for for Houston
University, right?

2546
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,720
So he's making it a sense of on
both sides, right?

2547
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:40,400
With so many different pages
posting Andrew Tate's content,

2548
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,200
he became viral.
Yeah.

2549
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:46,840
And what he was talking about
was super controversial, right?

2550
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:52,480
Mainly like he would say some
misogynist, misogynist shit

2551
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,480
while simultaneously telling men
that they need to, they need to

2552
01:52:57,480 --> 01:53:01,240
do stuff like work out, be
strong, learn how to fight,

2553
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:04,080
learn how to be rich so that you
could take care of your family,

2554
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:06,080
right.
And if you look at, you could

2555
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,160
look at find him talking like
sweet about women and saying

2556
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,360
that like, I do all this so I
can take care of my women.

2557
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,040
It's not that I hate women,
right?

2558
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:15,240
So you, so you got to look at
his long form content to

2559
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:19,240
understand truly that him
becoming viral in the way that

2560
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:23,000
he did was a chess move so that
he could create more wealth for

2561
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:25,560
himself.
And he has like fucking 10 kids.

2562
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:27,640
So he could just pass that down
to his kids.

2563
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:29,920
Now, is he a good person?
Is he a bad person?

2564
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,920
I don't fucking know.
But what I do know is that

2565
01:53:33,440 --> 01:53:35,240
people are trying to put him in
jail.

2566
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,120
He actually went to jail in
Romania.

2567
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:43,440
But in Romania they've had, they
went through his house, have all

2568
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:48,160
his video of his security
cameras in his house, right?

2569
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:52,000
They have all these people and
in three years they can't come

2570
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:56,440
up with a conviction?
Broke all of his security

2571
01:53:56,440 --> 01:53:57,360
footage.
Right.

2572
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:01,000
You had you took half of his
fucking super.

2573
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:02,640
Cars.
So you're saying this guy talks

2574
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,360
like an animal, but if there's
anything to back it then in

2575
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:06,680
three years something would have
happened?

2576
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:08,920
Yeah, like there would have been
a conviction right when he came

2577
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:12,520
to Florida, fucking Rhonda
Sanders in them fucking try to

2578
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,280
charge him with something.
That shit got thrown out because

2579
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,080
there was no evidence.
That's interesting.

2580
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,800
Right.
It's like if the person is truly

2581
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:23,680
bad and you have all of this
stuff you took from his house

2582
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:26,800
when he wasn't expecting it,
Yeah, he got roped at thinking

2583
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:30,000
like 2024 New Year's.
You didn't think as a chess

2584
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,360
player you'd expect to get
caught at one point, or to

2585
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:35,520
expect to get given a hard time?
Good question, right?

2586
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:42,480
But it's like if you were doing
bullshit at your house, like you

2587
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:45,840
would slip up somehow.
Yeah, I do right.

2588
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:47,640
Like.
There's cameras, right?

2589
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:50,840
It cameras all the time, and
let's just say you get an

2590
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:52,680
argument with your wife or you
talk too crazy.

2591
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:54,520
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They can take them.

2592
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:55,760
But look how violent he is,
Yeah?

2593
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:57,680
Yeah, yeah.
You never had anything like

2594
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:00,200
that.
If if there was something that

2595
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:01,480
could've.
And the media is hot.

2596
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:03,640
Media is awesome of digging that
shit up too.

2597
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:05,920
Yes.
So if there was something in

2598
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:09,320
those video recordings, that's a
good point, Substantial.

2599
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,360
That's a fair point.
The witnesses, those girls that

2600
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,200
were that were right since he
did shit, there was substantial

2601
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:17,680
evidence he would be under the
jail now, right?

2602
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:19,680
But they couldn't keep him in
jail because they don't have

2603
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:21,280
enough evidence.
How do you not have enough

2604
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:22,120
evidence?
Right?

2605
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:23,960
Right.
This guy's a rapist.

2606
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,200
This guy's whatever you call a
trafficker.

2607
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:27,760
This guy's whatever, you know,
like where's he's.

2608
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,200
American let's innocent until
proven guilty.

2609
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,280
Where is the proven guilty?
This shit has been going on for

2610
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,120
so long.
Where is the proven guilty?

2611
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:38,720
Yeah, so until they prove him
guilty, I'm just going to listen

2612
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:40,160
with a grain of salt.
Right.

2613
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,400
Listen with a grain of salt.
Yeah, and that goes back to what

2614
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,560
we were talking about earlier
with hey man, I'm an adult.

2615
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:47,760
I could determine for myself
what I'm listening to, if

2616
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,080
there's something that's for me
or not.

2617
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,920
Yeah, or like so on that same
principle, right?

2618
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,680
I ban my kids from Roblox, their
favorite fucking game in the

2619
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,680
whole world.
By the way, apparently it's a

2620
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:01,440
shit show with traffickers and
shit like that.

2621
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,720
Yes, The reason why I did this,
OK, I understand that.

2622
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:08,240
Like, was it Minecraft and shit?
Like all of those games where

2623
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,680
it's like on the Internet and
like people can talk to each

2624
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:11,920
other?
First thing I told them was

2625
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:13,640
like, don't fucking talk to
nobody.

2626
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:15,440
Yeah, I don't care what they
say.

2627
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:17,720
You do not talk to anybody in
one of those fucking games.

2628
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:25,040
Yeah, OK, That's one thing.
The CEO of Roblox banned this

2629
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:28,320
one user who got groomed off of
Roblox.

2630
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:30,640
Wow.
I don't know his exact story or

2631
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,400
what happened when he got
groomed, but he did.

2632
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,560
He there was a grooming.
Yeah, right, of this kid.

2633
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:41,600
So what he did is that he
started posing as a child and he

2634
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:45,440
was catching predators on Roblox
and then getting him arrested.

2635
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:48,280
Nice, yeah.
CEO comes out, he's like, there

2636
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:50,400
will be no vigilantes on this
platform.

2637
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:52,720
Ban that guy.
Whoa.

2638
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:56,120
So second, he banned that guy.
He banned the dude that was

2639
01:56:56,120 --> 01:57:00,200
catching pedophiles.
Seen the fucking pedophiles so

2640
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:01,800
now I have to have an
uncomfortable conversation with

2641
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:03,080
the kids.
I'm like fuck.

2642
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:05,160
By the way, it's not that
uncomfortable conversation.

2643
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:08,280
Well, I know you love this game,
guys, but it's dangerous, and

2644
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,040
apparently the company's
actively fighting to stop the

2645
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,240
dangerous things from stopping,
so I don't know what to tell.

2646
01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:16,360
You that's what, 6 year old?
You can get hurt.

2647
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:20,240
I don't want to get hurt.
Yes, I have to keep reminding

2648
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:20,960
him.
Yeah, you do.

2649
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:22,520
You're going to have to drill it
into.

2650
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:24,640
His favorite game that all his
friends are playing.

2651
01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:26,680
All his friends are talking.
About right, yeah, Yeah.

2652
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:31,040
I have to explain to him,
listen, the person who owns

2653
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:36,080
Roblox, he supports people who
hurts kids.

2654
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:38,120
Yeah.
Well, how does he do that daddy?

2655
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:41,840
Well, the guy that was trying to
help, trying to help protect the

2656
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:43,800
kids he banned.
He puts Superman in jail,

2657
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:46,320
Superman in jail.
He puts Superman in jail, right?

2658
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:49,880
He's like, I'm like, do you, do
you support people that hurt

2659
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:51,440
kids?
No.

2660
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,760
But I really like the game.
And I'm like Khalil, I

2661
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:55,280
understand.
He's trying to separate the art

2662
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:56,200
from the artist.
Yeah.

2663
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:58,800
Right, which I understand.
Yeah, totally.

2664
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,200
But like, these are one of those
hard life lessons that you have

2665
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:02,960
to learn on a man.
So as a man, like, you have to

2666
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:05,840
stand on principle.
I'm like, Khalil, first of all,

2667
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:07,200
you're an amazing artist.
You should be.

2668
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:09,120
You should be drawing.
When will you play a fucking

2669
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:10,600
game anyway?
Yeah, Right.

2670
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:12,160
And I do put restrictions on
them.

2671
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:13,640
Like you.
You asked me Like, what do I do

2672
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:14,520
as a parent?
Yeah.

2673
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:20,520
One thing is like in Saturday
morning, OK, Sunday morning when

2674
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,120
they wake up, they have to brush
their teeth.

2675
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:24,840
They have to do 50 push ups
before they touch the TV or

2676
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:25,960
touch an iPad.
Nice.

2677
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:28,600
Right, because they have to
understand that their hygiene

2678
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:32,280
and their training is 10 times
as important as that fucking

2679
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:32,880
game.
Yeah.

2680
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:34,280
Good for you.
Right.

2681
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:35,360
Good for you.
Thank you.

2682
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,680
That's awesome.
So part of that is the reason

2683
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:39,560
why they were able to let it go.
So sure.

2684
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,520
Because they realized it wasn't.
Their life wasn't evolving

2685
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:43,200
around.
That yeah.

2686
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:46,800
So it's like Khalil and my 6
year old, Cody, my 11 year old,

2687
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:49,840
and then my nephew who's 8,
right?

2688
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:53,480
Like me and my brother.
And we're like all family as a

2689
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:55,080
unit, right?
Raise them as a village.

2690
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:57,320
So I told my brother I was like,
yo, we got to pan them off this

2691
01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:58,480
shit.
So like, I sat them down.

2692
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,400
I talked to him like, look, we
can't play Roblox anymore.

2693
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:01,720
Yeah.
I like this is one of those

2694
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,480
things that you're not going to
understand now that you

2695
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:06,360
understand better later.
But as a man, you have to stand

2696
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:08,200
on principle.
We do not support people that

2697
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,040
hurt kids in this family.
You guys playing that is going

2698
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:13,640
to make that guy money.
Yeah, yeah.

2699
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:15,800
So it's a great point.
It's a great point.

2700
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:17,760
It's a great thing to do.
It's a great thing to do.

2701
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:19,160
Yeah.
Yeah.

2702
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:22,520
Here's a question.
You want to keep on going.

2703
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:26,080
You want to save the
psychedelics all the other work

2704
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:27,120
for.
Another time, up to you.

2705
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:29,640
I could fucking talk shit.
I don't have anywhere to be

2706
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:30,880
right now, so it's just up to
you.

2707
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,120
Though let's what time we have
here 210, let's go another 20

2708
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:37,960
minutes.
Cool, what do you want to talk

2709
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:39,000
about?
Ayahuasca story.

2710
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:42,840
Yeah.
Well, let's let's talk about

2711
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:47,240
ayahuasca was that we use
Ayahuasca in a therapeutic

2712
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:48,680
setting.
Let me tell you.

2713
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:51,800
Like for the therapeutic
purposes rather.

2714
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:55,880
Yeah, Ayahuasca you can't do
jokingly, you can't like.

2715
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:57,680
What was it?
Like ayahuasca, you had to go to

2716
01:59:57,680 --> 01:59:59,080
Peru.
Yeah, I went to Peru.

2717
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,360
OK, tell me about.
That I won't do ayahuasca in the

2718
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:02,960
United States.
I'm a little bit of a purist,

2719
02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:05,760
OK, Cuz I respect the medicine.
Yeah, and the culture.

2720
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:07,160
And the culture.
Yeah, right.

2721
02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:11,960
So remember when I tell you that
girl broke up with me?

2722
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:13,920
Said that she was more.
Yeah, she felt like more of a

2723
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:16,440
man in a relationship, right?
Looking at it in my 30s, I'm

2724
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:18,000
like, oh, she was absolutely
fucking right.

2725
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:20,080
OK.
She was cheating on me, right?

2726
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:22,400
She was 22.
Some fucking 30 year old slid in

2727
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:26,720
her DMS OK, as a 30 something
year old man, I could go steal

2728
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:29,440
the fucking girlfriend from any
22 year old right now.

2729
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:31,600
Yeah, right.
Because at the end of the day,

2730
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:34,920
women are attracted to status.
And confidence and protect and

2731
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:36,560
safety.
Yeah, Yeah, right.

2732
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:40,400
They're attracted to all of that
OK status, though.

2733
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:42,760
It's like it makes him feel
safe.

2734
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:47,720
Like if he's like OK, I didn't
really I knew this as a concept,

2735
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:50,080
but I didn't really see it until
I got my black belt and I

2736
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:52,840
started blowing up my social
media right, because they were

2737
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,360
in 2021, like I was making a
video a day.

2738
02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:58,200
I blew up my followers to like
994 hundred.

2739
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:01,920
Nice right And as a man, like if
you get 10,000, like you kind of

2740
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:05,280
made it on social media.
A girl is like 100K because if

2741
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:07,680
you got a pretty face, you're
going to get fucking yeah right.

2742
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:09,200
I'm sorry.
I don't have an ass to flaunt my

2743
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:10,800
fucking bitch.
You could, Yeah.

2744
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:11,400
You.
Could you?

2745
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:17,080
Get the whole thing is.
Fucking problem, right?

2746
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:24,360
This thing is bad as publicity.
So what was I talking about?

2747
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:27,720
You're talking about this girl
that she cheated on you with a

2748
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:28,480
10 year old?
Yeah.

2749
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:30,840
So I get it.
I understand now.

2750
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:33,280
Back then though, I was fucking
heart broke yo.

2751
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,160
Heartbreak sucks.
Heartbreak sucks.

2752
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,800
That shit is a feeling that just
doesn't fucking go away.

2753
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:40,600
And it eats out a dude.
It eats out a man, dude.

2754
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:45,400
Right, so like the other day,
the other day, you know, usually

2755
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,360
I'm a little rough, but like
this student fucking came out to

2756
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,680
me is like professor, like, you
know, I've been missing a lot

2757
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:52,480
because, you know, this girl
broke up with me and I just gave

2758
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:53,440
him a hug.
I was like bro.

2759
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:55,200
Bring it in, dude.
I was like, come here.

2760
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:57,080
I understand.
Like, listen, you can't stay

2761
02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:59,080
bogged down by that.
But I understand how much that

2762
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:00,800
hurts.
Like, yeah, I, I went into like

2763
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:02,680
daddy mode at that point.
I get it.

2764
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:03,960
Like that shit fucking.
Stink.

2765
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:07,240
It hurts, it doesn't go away.
It just fucking lingers.

2766
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:12,360
I get it.
So there was a point where I

2767
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,480
just was like, fuck this.
Like I was studying social work

2768
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:18,840
for my bachelor's where I got my
degree because I want to become

2769
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:21,320
a therapist to help veterans.
Really, yes.

2770
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:27,760
I veered away from that when I
got my black belt because I

2771
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:31,240
realized that I can help
veterans in jiu jitsu.

2772
02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:33,840
Yeah, doing something I like
instead of being bogged down by

2773
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:35,800
the bureaucracy.
And you're creating a world for

2774
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:38,440
them that's probably healthy for
them to live in.

2775
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:40,800
Yeah, instead of just sit in
front of them and fucking.

2776
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:43,680
So tell me how PTSD affects your
life.

2777
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:45,280
Yeah, You know what I mean?
It's fucking stupid.

2778
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:50,160
And plus, like, trauma gets, I
could nerd out on trauma all

2779
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:53,080
day, but just trauma gets stored
in the nonverbal parts of your

2780
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:54,640
brain, in your limbic system.
Yeah.

2781
02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:58,160
You can't talk it out.
You have to literally do

2782
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:00,600
something to get it out really.
So if you're going to do

2783
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:03,360
therapy, you should do EMDR
which is eye movement.

2784
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:07,000
Oh dude my someone I know just
got certified in that and I I

2785
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:09,640
don't know anything about it.
That's the only, to me, that's

2786
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:13,320
the only one that effectively
works against trauma because

2787
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:16,400
like when I did EMDR, it's like
we start talking about a

2788
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:19,800
childhood memory that I I forgot
a whole piece of what happened

2789
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:22,640
and I'm talking about it and
bro, it's like the fucking

2790
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:25,400
memory just goes.
Shooting to the front.

2791
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:26,840
Bro and you're like.
Wow.

2792
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:31,320
Yeah, and usually fucking you
start trying and it's like it,

2793
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:34,440
it's like a new memory, but you
know that it happened.

2794
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:37,280
Yeah, it is insane.
Wow, I wonder if those can be

2795
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:39,680
manipulated.
I don't know bro it it.

2796
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:42,240
Was because that's the MK Ultra
shit, you know that's like mind

2797
02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:45,480
control shit to like bring back
like start someone's association

2798
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:48,160
because memories are weak.
Yeah, generally speaking, like,

2799
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:50,200
like the more you tell a story,
you'll notice that like it

2800
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:51,840
changes the more you tell it.
Right.

2801
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:56,000
To sound better, yeah, but it's
like I'm talking about a memory.

2802
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,960
Yeah, it's literally vividly
playing in my frontal.

2803
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:00,280
Cord, I gotcha.
I gotcha.

2804
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:03,360
And I was like, Oh my God, like,
I'm living it again.

2805
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,840
And I'm like, this happened,
that happened, that happened.

2806
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:07,840
And she's like, okay, well, that
happened.

2807
02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:10,280
Like, you know, 'cause you make
a judgment about yourself.

2808
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:11,840
Yeah.
You're like, oh, I'm a monster.

2809
02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:12,960
I am this.
I am weak.

2810
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:13,880
I'm whatever.
Yeah.

2811
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:16,760
So then they help you reprocess
the memory.

2812
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:19,080
So it's like almost like you go
back in time and reprocess.

2813
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:20,040
Yeah.
That's what people use,

2814
02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:21,440
psychedelics.
Too, the way that you do it,

2815
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:22,520
yeah.
To be associating.

2816
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:25,040
The way that you do it is you do
like bilateral brain

2817
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:26,760
stimulation.
So like they'll have you do this

2818
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:29,440
like tap your left and right
arm, left and right knee, or

2819
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:31,160
they'll have you like follow
your finger.

2820
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:33,200
So like you're going back and
forth with your eyes.

2821
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:34,360
Yeah.
And that's what.

2822
02:04:34,360 --> 02:04:35,800
And they start asking you
certain questions.

2823
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:36,040
They.
Wow.

2824
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:38,000
Amazing.
Brings the fucking.

2825
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:39,040
I want to try that.
Yeah.

2826
02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:40,080
EMDR.
Go do it, bro.

2827
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:41,880
Yeah.
If you're going to do any

2828
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:44,480
therapy, it's that that one
works.

2829
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:46,920
OK, but sit there and talk about
your problems.

2830
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,400
It's a Band-Aid.
It's a Band-Aid.

2831
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:53,520
So I didn't want to do that.
All right, So I was in my

2832
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:58,720
master's program my first night
and I'm like, I am not fucking

2833
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:01,520
doing that.
This is a girl who I got my

2834
02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:04,440
bachelor's with and she's I'm
like, I'm like, listen, I'm

2835
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:06,040
like, I'm going to fucking call
my cousin.

2836
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:08,520
I'm going to text my cousin
right now who's a pilot and I'm

2837
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:10,680
going to ask him how much to get
me to Peru.

2838
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:13,680
And then I'm going to fucking
figure out an ayahuasca retreat.

2839
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:16,880
And I'm fucking dropping out of
all my classes tonight, really.

2840
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:18,680
And I'm out, bro.
So said so done.

2841
02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:19,360
And.
You did.

2842
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:20,600
It a week.
I was in fucking Peru.

2843
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:24,240
Really spent a month there.
A month and you had no plans?

2844
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:25,440
You didn't.
Have you been there before?

2845
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:28,840
No, I'll travel solo.
All I need to do for travel is

2846
02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:31,720
find an Airbnb in a judicial
school close to it right?

2847
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:34,280
And I'm fucking gone.
I feel like a lot of people,

2848
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:35,920
once you get in jiu jitsu, are
like that, right?

2849
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:37,240
Like you don't need a lot of
that point.

2850
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,000
I would think so.
Yeah.

2851
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:43,640
Cuz then at the jiu jitsu gym
you figure out everything.

2852
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:46,200
Everywhere I go now, I'm like,
I'm thinking where, where,

2853
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:48,840
where's the, where's the school
relative to me that like, OK,

2854
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:50,040
yeah.
So yeah, it's worth going to,

2855
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:52,640
you know, I feel.
That Yeah, now you go visit

2856
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:55,920
schools, right?
So, you know, I started learning

2857
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:58,600
about psychedelics.
I started learning about

2858
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:02,600
ayahuasca in particular.
So I'm like, you know, I'm going

2859
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:03,560
to Peru.
Fuck it.

2860
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:10,240
So I show up to Peru.
I was flying standby.

2861
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:14,560
So I, I flew in a day before my
Airbnb start.

2862
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:17,320
So they had this thing back
then.

2863
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:21,080
This was like 2014, OK?
They had this thing back then

2864
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:22,680
called couch surfing.
Yeah.

2865
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:24,920
You remember couch surfing?
I mean, I know the concepts.

2866
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:28,000
OK.
So basically it's like Airbnb.

2867
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:30,360
For broke people, OK.
Right.

2868
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:33,360
It's literally a thing called
couch surfing.

2869
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:34,320
Yeah.
I mean, couch surfing, just

2870
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:35,800
crashing those couches.
It's an app.

2871
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,840
Cool.
I can say hey my apartment has a

2872
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,960
couch.
You can use the bathrooms.

2873
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:47,400
You can use the common area.
You could stay for X amount of

2874
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:52,360
nights and here and like you
could see my reviews of people

2875
02:06:52,360 --> 02:06:53,840
saying reviews about me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2876
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:57,840
And then people users who who go
couch surf you write reviews.

2877
02:06:57,840 --> 02:06:59,280
About them.
About them.

2878
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:00,520
Yeah, totally.
It's great, yeah.

2879
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:06,520
So on couch surfing I'm like
fuck, I need to find somewhere.

2880
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:08,120
So I'm I'm on, I'm on couch
surfing.

2881
02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:10,200
I forgot how I found out about
couch surfing, but I'm on couch

2882
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:14,000
surfing and I find this guy from
Iceland.

2883
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:17,720
OK.
Who He made a lot of money back

2884
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:21,480
in his 20s, so in his 30s he
used to just rent a expensive

2885
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:27,800
place in a foreign country and
stay there and do psychedelics.

2886
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:30,000
Cool.
Because he studied, he was like

2887
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,760
Terence McKenna.
He studied the psychology behind

2888
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:36,760
it and then just wanted to
experiment what happens when you

2889
02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:39,800
mix DMT and mushrooms?
What happens when you do

2890
02:07:39,800 --> 02:07:42,840
mushrooms in LSD?
And he just want, he like was

2891
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:47,000
experimenting like he did, I saw
him do, because you could get

2892
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:49,120
ayahuasca in the fucking in the
markets there.

2893
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:50,560
Like it's really nothing.
Like it's nothing, Billy.

2894
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:53,920
You could just go grab it.
Not the right way to fucking do

2895
02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:55,240
it.
OK, OK.

2896
02:07:56,880 --> 02:08:01,440
But I've seen him do ayahuasca
and DMTDMT last 15 seconds, 15

2897
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:02,040
minutes.
Yeah.

2898
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:03,760
But it feels like an eternity.
Yeah.

2899
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:08,600
When you add ayahuasca on top of
it, Ayahuasca has a MAOAMAOI

2900
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:15,040
inhibitor or something like
that, which there's something in

2901
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:16,640
the ayahuasca like if you can
eat.

2902
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:18,560
Most of these plants have DMT in
it.

2903
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:22,160
OK, so there's.
A vine in the Amazon that when

2904
02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:24,240
you combine it with a certain
leaf.

2905
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:26,080
Yes, yes, yes, that activate it
triggers it.

2906
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:29,200
It triggers it right?
So when you smoke DMT and you do

2907
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:31,840
ayahuasca at the same time, it
makes the DMT last longer?

2908
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:33,560
Oh shit, really?
Yeah.

2909
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:36,720
So you so now you do a 30 minute
DMT trip rather than.

2910
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:38,560
And that lasts like 2
eternities.

2911
02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:41,640
Yeah, so like that's what like
the like the psychedelic nerds

2912
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:45,920
will call it a breakthrough.
OK, You're you're able to get

2913
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:47,920
breakthroughs easier when you
combine the two.

2914
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:50,480
OK, I didn't try that because I
respect ayahuasca.

2915
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:52,600
Yeah, right.
That's just my personal I've.

2916
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:56,200
Heard a lot of people talk about
the medicine like that, where

2917
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,200
you have to respect.
It's like it's own entity that

2918
02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:00,720
you have to like, respect and
like treat like a particular

2919
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:01,440
way.
Yeah, right.

2920
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:03,880
Because like, the difference
between Ayahuasca and DMT is

2921
02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:06,720
that ayahuasca, they both take
you to the same realm.

2922
02:09:07,480 --> 02:09:10,720
Except ayahuasca, you're greeted
with a motherly spirit that's

2923
02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:12,120
going to give you exactly what
you need.

2924
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:14,320
Yeah.
Whereas DMT they just bring you

2925
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:15,960
in the realm.
It's like gnomes that kind of

2926
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:17,640
talk to you and like they'll
show you shit.

2927
02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:19,520
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck
is going on.

2928
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:21,560
They're not going to explain too
much.

2929
02:09:21,560 --> 02:09:22,880
Yeah, I'm a little nervous about
DMT.

2930
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:24,960
That's not anything I'm ready to
dive into yet.

2931
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:27,240
I'm going to do LSD again.
I'm going to do shrooms again.

2932
02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:30,120
Yeah, even ayahuasca sounds
like.

2933
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:31,840
I don't even know if it's
anything that's tempting to me.

2934
02:09:32,720 --> 02:09:33,320
I don't know.
We'll see.

2935
02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:35,720
I kind of feel like it's a
motherly spirit that calls you.

2936
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:37,920
Yeah, you know, that could be
wool shit, but it's.

2937
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:39,880
Like I feel.
I felt the, I felt the, I felt

2938
02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:42,640
like, like it was funny when I
was dating my wife, my wife,

2939
02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:46,640
she's very sensitive to just
substance abuse in general.

2940
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:50,320
And, and she asked me while
we're dating if I ever, if I did

2941
02:09:50,320 --> 02:09:51,600
drugs.
And I was like, well, I'm not

2942
02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:53,160
going to lie about this,
especially like something like

2943
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:56,080
real like rooms or LSD.
I'm like, so I didn't she's

2944
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:58,200
like, so you're going to like
keep on doing it.

2945
02:09:58,200 --> 02:09:59,720
And I'm like, let me explain
something.

2946
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:04,120
I was like, I did LSD twice in
my life and I don't know the

2947
02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:06,240
next time I'm ever going to feel
the need to do it again, you

2948
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:09,360
know, like, yeah, it might be in
five years, it might be in 50

2949
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:10,520
years, it might be in six
months.

2950
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:12,480
You know, like, I have no idea.
But like it's going to like,

2951
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:15,160
like it's not a thing that's
like addicting, like you just

2952
02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:17,800
want to do everyday.
You don't want to drink a six

2953
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:20,160
pack of beer like you want to
take a tablet LSD.

2954
02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:21,800
Yeah, no, yeah.
Definitely, you know, and so I

2955
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:23,840
had to explain this, yeah,
recently.

2956
02:10:24,080 --> 02:10:27,640
And then actually I did a breath
work instead of that.

2957
02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:32,600
They really felt the pull and I,
I didn't have it on me and my

2958
02:10:32,720 --> 02:10:34,760
and we, I tried a breath work
class and I was like, this was

2959
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:37,160
what I was looking for.
Yes, you know, I got it because.

2960
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:39,440
You could, you could achieve
those states in breath and like,

2961
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:41,080
that's kind of like what Mother
Ayawaska told me.

2962
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:44,360
So boom, right.
So it's like I wanted to, so I,

2963
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:46,680
I, I scheduled my trip for 30
days, right?

2964
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:49,240
I got the Airbnb for 30 days,
but I had to go couch surfing

2965
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:53,040
with Fionn is the guy's name.
So I show up a day early, I go

2966
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:55,480
on couch surfing.
Me and him have this crazy back

2967
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:58,000
and forth conversation, like he
was trying to test me, like my

2968
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:00,080
intellect.
Yeah, but I'm a pretty smart

2969
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:03,080
motherfucker passing to come to
certain ship.

2970
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:06,000
But like, yeah, I'm gonna catch
intellect, right?

2971
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:09,760
I'm a little nerd like that.
So we're going back and forth

2972
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:11,400
and I guess like, I passed this
test.

2973
02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:13,960
He was asking me crazy
questions.

2974
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:16,680
Like he's like, there's a shaman
over here and there's this over

2975
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:18,760
there, there's that over there
and there's there's fucking

2976
02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:20,280
assassins in the corners.
Like, what do you do?

2977
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:21,520
And I was like, well, I'm going
to do this.

2978
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:23,520
It was a crazy conversation, but
whatever.

2979
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:25,080
He approved the fucking couch
surfing.

2980
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:30,000
OK, So I show up to to, to the,
to the house, and there's this

2981
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:33,680
fucking giant of a man, blonde
hair, blue eyes.

2982
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:35,320
Fuck it.
I shake his hand.

2983
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:37,000
I'm looking up at him.
I shake his hand.

2984
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:39,360
One of the best guys I've ever
met.

2985
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:42,040
Yeah.
OK, in the house with him

2986
02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:44,240
though, the other couch surfers
that were there was this

2987
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:47,680
Brazilian girl, Irish girl and
this couple from Spain.

2988
02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:50,240
Cool.
OK, it's important on this

2989
02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:51,680
Jamaican girl too.
We use dating go.

2990
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:55,520
To the cigar, by the way.
No, I'm.

2991
02:11:55,640 --> 02:12:02,840
Good, we'll go with this.
One So then what happened is so

2992
02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:04,680
the very next day I had to go on
the ayahuasca journey.

2993
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:08,280
So I spent the night with them
right at the end of the at the

2994
02:12:08,320 --> 02:12:10,720
at the next day when I was about
to go to the, to the, to the

2995
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:12,200
shaman.
Yeah.

2996
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:13,840
They are like, Drew, you're
cool.

2997
02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:16,920
I know you have 30 days at that
Airbnb in the city, but they're

2998
02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:18,800
in the Sacred Valley.
They're like, if you want to

2999
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:20,080
come back here, like, we don't
mind.

3000
02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:22,000
I was like, oh, perfect.
Yeah, bro.

3001
02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:26,920
The house that they were staying
at was the most beautiful place

3002
02:12:26,920 --> 02:12:29,800
I've ever been to.
Peru, Cusco.

3003
02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:32,240
Peru has beautiful Green
Mountains everywhere.

3004
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:36,000
OK, OK.
The house was like centered on

3005
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:39,800
its own lot.
Neighbor was far as fuck away.

3006
02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:43,440
The guy who owned the house left
a giant like dog there.

3007
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:46,960
It was like AI don't know if it
was a German Shepherd cuz I

3008
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:48,520
think it maybe it'd been a
mastiff.

3009
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:51,600
Like it's like a big hairy dog
giant, right?

3010
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:53,400
That you, that if you stay
there, you got to like feed it

3011
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:54,680
and stuff.
Like he had people come take

3012
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:56,360
care of it.
But the dog was on.

3013
02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:58,280
Yeah, you got to take care of
it.

3014
02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:01,080
The big ass dog's there and all
these people are there.

3015
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:04,200
They doing fires every night
like it was fucking amazing

3016
02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:07,920
cooking like we all like shared
resources cooking the girls bro

3017
02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:14,120
amazing.
So then what happened is so I

3018
02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:16,720
end up staying there.
So we had the the Airbnb in the

3019
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:17,720
city, but I didn't even go
there.

3020
02:13:17,720 --> 02:13:18,840
I paid 400 bucks for.
It.

3021
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:20,880
I might have slept there like.
A week.

3022
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:24,880
Yeah, yeah, right.
Why would you even you know?

3023
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:28,200
And then there was a there was a
river coming off of the mountain

3024
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:31,960
right next to the house, so it
always sounded like it was

3025
02:13:31,960 --> 02:13:34,880
raining when you were in.
Beautiful, bro, Beautiful.

3026
02:13:35,200 --> 02:13:36,280
I would go back there in a
second.

3027
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:41,840
So show up to the ayahuasca
center and they're like, all

3028
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:43,520
right, you can't eat this, you
can't eat that.

3029
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:46,600
Because one thing that you used
to do to deal with altitude

3030
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:49,440
sickness is drink coca leaves.
OK.

3031
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:52,200
Coca leaf tea.
OK, it just felt like you drank

3032
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:53,920
a cup of coffee.
Yeah, stimulant.

3033
02:13:54,360 --> 02:13:56,120
Yeah, there's a couple of
coffee, but it takes away

3034
02:13:56,120 --> 02:13:57,280
altitude sickness.
OK.

3035
02:13:57,480 --> 02:13:59,040
That's why when I was went to
Colorado, I was like,

3036
02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:07,200
motherfucker, like I could see
you, like, chew on the coca

3037
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:08,000
leaves.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3038
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:10,200
Because they have them
everywhere.

3039
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:11,760
Like in every little shop or
whatever.

3040
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:13,800
Like there's like a bowl of coca
leaves that you could take and

3041
02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:16,440
like they have like you can make
the hot water like it's like

3042
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:17,120
nothing.
Yeah.

3043
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:19,640
Because when I first got there,
like I walked up the steps and I

3044
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:23,280
was like, that was a hot shit.
Purple belt, 160 lbs, best shape

3045
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:25,720
of my life.
Walking up a fucking flight of

3046
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:27,560
stairs and I'm like.
Yeah.

3047
02:14:28,040 --> 02:14:29,200
I drink some coca tea.
I'm fine.

3048
02:14:29,440 --> 02:14:30,280
That's crazy.
Yeah.

3049
02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:32,000
Really cool.
It takes away the headaches and,

3050
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:34,920
like, stomach aches, whatever.
So anyways, go to the ayahuasca

3051
02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:35,920
center.
They're like, you can't drink

3052
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:39,440
any coca tea here.
You can't drink any seasoning.

3053
02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:41,600
Like, there's like a diet that
you have to follow.

3054
02:14:42,440 --> 02:14:45,520
And then they make you detox.
You drink this volcanic water,

3055
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:48,920
you shit yourself, right?
It's like water that kind of

3056
02:14:48,920 --> 02:14:51,120
tastes like kombucha, OK,
orange.

3057
02:14:51,120 --> 02:14:53,360
And you fucking drink like 15
glasses of that and you

3058
02:14:53,360 --> 02:14:54,960
completely purge your system.
OK.

3059
02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:58,200
Then you have a shaman from the
mountains, a shaman from the

3060
02:14:58,200 --> 02:15:00,680
jungle, a shaman from the
mountains clears your energy,

3061
02:15:00,680 --> 02:15:04,600
fucking douses you with
essential oils and fucking the

3062
02:15:04,600 --> 02:15:07,880
Palo Santo and the and the cool.
What's the other thing that you

3063
02:15:07,880 --> 02:15:10,040
shake around with?
Did you did you make smoky?

3064
02:15:12,240 --> 02:15:13,520
Eucalyptus.
No, Great.

3065
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:14,320
It's great.
I don't.

3066
02:15:14,440 --> 02:15:18,880
Know clears your energy.
I forgot sage, sage, sage you.

3067
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:21,120
Now whatever prepares you says
your prayers.

3068
02:15:21,120 --> 02:15:24,120
Pray to whatever God you want to
get you ready during the

3069
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:27,240
daytime, nighttime, the shaman
from the jungle comes in and

3070
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:30,480
he's like splashes you with
fucking essential oils and it

3071
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:32,560
tells you meditate 30 minutes.
So you take the ayahuasca, you

3072
02:15:32,560 --> 02:15:34,360
meditate another 30 minutes and
then boom, you're gone.

3073
02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:37,560
You're gone.
So I'm meditating.

3074
02:15:37,560 --> 02:15:40,040
I took the ayahuasca.
It tastes like kombucha and

3075
02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:41,320
Malta mixed.
OK.

3076
02:15:42,040 --> 02:15:43,840
Is the best.
Is the best way I could describe

3077
02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:48,320
it yeah, I'm drinking it right.
And then I meditate on for 30

3078
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:52,560
minutes and then I open my eyes
and then the shamans like

3079
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:53,960
singing.
He sings Ikaros.

3080
02:15:53,960 --> 02:15:56,040
These are beautiful songs that
guide you to the journey because

3081
02:15:56,040 --> 02:15:58,360
he takes it too.
And he sings Ikaros the whole

3082
02:15:58,360 --> 02:16:00,480
time, right.
They're beautiful.

3083
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:02,800
Go on YouTube and Ikaros.
They're they're beautiful.

3084
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:08,840
So he starts singing and bro, he
goes like this to lay down and I

3085
02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:15,400
just see this.
I see like waves like bro I'm in

3086
02:16:15,400 --> 02:16:17,280
ancient Egypt.
No way.

3087
02:16:17,280 --> 02:16:19,880
Streets of gold.
I'm looking at all the Egyptian

3088
02:16:19,880 --> 02:16:22,440
gods like Osiris.
And yeah, yeah, yeah, what they

3089
02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:24,640
look like is.
Exactly what they would look

3090
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:26,640
like.
Like like picture picture

3091
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:29,040
Egyptian gods with the fucking
animal and stuff.

3092
02:16:29,400 --> 02:16:35,080
Giants, pyramids, streets of
gold and Ephraim.

3093
02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:39,559
It was the best feeling I've
ever felt in my life.

3094
02:16:39,799 --> 02:16:42,600
The only thing that I could
equate it to is imagine just

3095
02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:45,240
having a nonstop orgasm.
Really.

3096
02:16:45,639 --> 02:16:48,320
Not ejaculation, just the orgasm
like that, like heightened

3097
02:16:48,320 --> 02:16:51,400
feeling of like it just it feels
amazing.

3098
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:52,600
And it's like, goodness,
release.

3099
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:54,520
No release.
Not a release.

3100
02:16:54,520 --> 02:16:57,080
No, it's just full of good
energy.

3101
02:16:57,080 --> 02:17:01,160
OK, right before the release,
but just like, yeah, constant.

3102
02:17:01,360 --> 02:17:03,760
Yeah.
I'm like, Oh my God, this place

3103
02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:05,799
feels so good.
Like, is this heaven?

3104
02:17:05,799 --> 02:17:09,040
Like, what is this?
So then I was like, oh, mother

3105
02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:11,639
ayahuasca, what's my next step
in life?

3106
02:17:11,639 --> 02:17:17,040
Because the shamans to tell you
to ask her so the little old

3107
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:20,320
lady pops up and she looks back
at me, right.

3108
02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:23,959
She goes, this is your universe
created disappears.

3109
02:17:24,760 --> 02:17:28,360
So bro, I start erecting
pyramids, making secret

3110
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:32,360
geometrical figures.
I start creating buildings like

3111
02:17:32,360 --> 02:17:34,799
just creating my world.
And I was like, you know what

3112
02:17:34,799 --> 02:17:38,959
Mother Alaska, I want divine
intelligence.

3113
02:17:39,320 --> 02:17:42,680
So these little fairies come and
they open up my left hand and

3114
02:17:42,680 --> 02:17:45,200
they like, you see them like put
some shit in there and they

3115
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:48,559
fucking disappear.
And I'm like, oh, I was like, I

3116
02:17:48,559 --> 02:17:50,520
want, I don't know why I think
I'm dealing with a fucking

3117
02:17:50,520 --> 02:17:51,480
genie.
Yeah.

3118
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:54,760
I was like, oh, divine
intelligence, right.

3119
02:17:54,920 --> 02:17:57,320
So they come back, little
fairies come and they open up my

3120
02:17:57,320 --> 02:18:02,000
head and they fucking and leave.
So I was like, oh.

3121
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:06,480
Strange.
Bro I started to grow into a

3122
02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:10,000
giant and what I realized is
that my ego was inflating.

3123
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:12,440
Yeah.
So I was like, oh, I was like,

3124
02:18:12,840 --> 02:18:14,879
no, no, no, no, no.
I was like, mother ayahuasca,

3125
02:18:15,360 --> 02:18:17,480
this is not why I'm here.
Like, I didn't come here for an

3126
02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:20,240
ego trip.
Like I just came for

3127
02:18:20,240 --> 02:18:21,920
enlightenment.
Just pops back up.

3128
02:18:22,440 --> 02:18:27,680
She goes, if you wish for me to
open your third eye, you have to

3129
02:18:27,680 --> 02:18:29,840
give me your right eye
disappears.

3130
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:33,760
So now I'm like, fuck, should I
wear a patch?

3131
02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:37,080
Like, should I make this deal?
Yeah, like, you know, what am I

3132
02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:42,639
doing?
So then now I go through a phase

3133
02:18:42,639 --> 02:18:47,280
where like I'm creating shit and
I stop and I get lost in what

3134
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:50,360
I'm doing and I stop.
I go back and forth until I

3135
02:18:50,360 --> 02:18:53,799
like, don't ask me why I did
this, but I sat down and I was

3136
02:18:53,799 --> 02:18:57,840
just like, no, right.
And everything just stops.

3137
02:18:57,920 --> 02:19:00,000
And I was like, mother
ayahuasca, this is not why I'm

3138
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:03,360
here, right?
And as she pops up and she's

3139
02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:08,040
like, how are we supposed to
help you with anything when

3140
02:19:08,040 --> 02:19:10,440
you're trying to control
everything?

3141
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:13,920
She's like, either give me your
right eye or master meditation.

3142
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:18,000
Those are your choices.
And this now I'm like, fuck.

3143
02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:22,639
So I don't remember what's going
on.

3144
02:19:22,639 --> 02:19:25,480
But like this is, it lasts for
four hours and I'm like 3 hours

3145
02:19:25,480 --> 02:19:29,840
in at this point.
So now like I got up and I threw

3146
02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:33,240
up, right?
And when I threw up, you, you

3147
02:19:33,240 --> 02:19:36,040
throw up in buckets because the
shamans take your vomit and they

3148
02:19:36,040 --> 02:19:38,240
put it into back into the river,
OK.

3149
02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:39,600
Because they say it's like,
sacred.

3150
02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:42,040
Yeah.
You know, and and ayahuasca

3151
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:46,160
binds to the impurities in your
body and it you have to throw it

3152
02:19:46,160 --> 02:19:47,200
up.
Yeah, you get rid of it.

3153
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:49,080
Yeah, you.
Have to get rid of it so you

3154
02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:51,360
throw up.
So I threw up so much to where

3155
02:19:51,360 --> 02:19:54,360
like I started dry heaving.
When I dry heaved I seen like

3156
02:19:54,400 --> 02:19:57,840
black energy come out.
Wow, like black smoke, almost

3157
02:19:57,840 --> 02:19:59,720
like it was the craziest shit
and I was like.

3158
02:20:00,480 --> 02:20:01,480
That's what you want to get rid
of.

3159
02:20:01,680 --> 02:20:04,840
Yeah.
And then like I fucking now I

3160
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:06,880
felt like I had to shit.
So like, I go to the fucking

3161
02:20:06,880 --> 02:20:11,240
bathroom and I look in the
mirror and like all like the

3162
02:20:11,240 --> 02:20:13,120
different lives I've ever lived
there.

3163
02:20:13,120 --> 02:20:17,400
Like faces are flashing in the
mirror and I'm like, Oh my God.

3164
02:20:17,480 --> 02:20:20,320
I'm not ready for this, no.
And I sit on the toilet, bro,

3165
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:22,280
and I'm like, fuck.
And I take like, you know, I

3166
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:25,160
take a shit, right?
But it's the ayahuasca coming

3167
02:20:25,160 --> 02:20:26,360
out, right?
It's like I'm like taking a

3168
02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:28,240
shit.
I'm like, fuck, got the runs and

3169
02:20:28,240 --> 02:20:30,320
I looked down.
It's like all like snakes in the

3170
02:20:30,320 --> 02:20:33,520
fucking.
Yeah.

3171
02:20:33,880 --> 02:20:36,360
I would die dude, I would have a
heart attack.

3172
02:20:37,280 --> 02:20:40,760
I halfway wiped myself, I don't
even know if I did it right

3173
02:20:40,880 --> 02:20:43,840
because I'm so fucked up and I
go lay back down.

3174
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:47,960
So I had other visions.
The other visions didn't stand

3175
02:20:47,960 --> 02:20:52,160
out to me as much as this one.
The girl that I got my heart

3176
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:59,680
broke with, I'm like floating in
space now and I see ATV screen

3177
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:03,840
and it's me and her.
And when I look left and right,

3178
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:08,040
it's every single moment of our
relationship going

3179
02:21:08,040 --> 02:21:13,280
simultaneously.
I look up, she's getting old, I

3180
02:21:13,280 --> 02:21:15,440
look down, she's getting
younger.

3181
02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:21,920
They it's like the entire life
is just on TV screens.

3182
02:21:22,240 --> 02:21:25,800
Wow, going on at the same time I
was like what the fuck is this?

3183
02:21:26,040 --> 02:21:27,640
The only thing I can make
reference to is like

3184
02:21:27,640 --> 02:21:29,560
Interstellar, Yeah.
He's watching.

3185
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:31,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you know how like the guy

3186
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:33,840
was floating and like he's
looking at like, you know, he's,

3187
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:35,240
he's in that.
Dimension, yeah, yeah, yeah, I

3188
02:21:35,240 --> 02:21:37,280
think the bookshelves, that's
where he pops the bookshelf out

3189
02:21:37,280 --> 02:21:38,720
of the.
Movie so it's like an experience

3190
02:21:38,720 --> 02:21:40,520
like that, like and that's the
only thing I could reference to

3191
02:21:40,520 --> 02:21:41,960
like oh, like this like
interstellar.

3192
02:21:42,720 --> 02:21:44,360
So I'm looking at it and be on
time.

3193
02:21:44,360 --> 02:21:47,600
I was her, I guess, because like
I like was affected so much

3194
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:52,960
emotionally by her, but at that
point, like I wasn't too like I,

3195
02:21:52,960 --> 02:21:54,720
I wasn't like grieving her
anymore.

3196
02:22:00,840 --> 02:22:09,640
Sorry about that.
OK, yeah, you weren't grieving

3197
02:22:09,640 --> 02:22:10,960
anymore.
Yeah, I wasn't grieving her

3198
02:22:10,960 --> 02:22:12,200
anymore.
So why she showed up in the

3199
02:22:12,200 --> 02:22:14,920
vision, I'm not sure, but I
guess the I don't know.

3200
02:22:14,960 --> 02:22:17,640
I don't know why she showed up.
So then after that.

3201
02:22:17,760 --> 02:22:19,680
I think the control thing was
fascinating, though.

3202
02:22:20,120 --> 02:22:22,640
The control thing isn't it, by
the way, Because in Judaism, by

3203
02:22:22,640 --> 02:22:26,920
the way, with God, the right
side is like power and strength

3204
02:22:26,920 --> 02:22:30,000
and what's called din are like
justice.

3205
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:33,120
And then the left side is
kindness and, and loving and

3206
02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:35,360
charity.
And like, if you're closing, if

3207
02:22:35,360 --> 02:22:37,680
you're, if you're giving your,
your, your right eye, that means

3208
02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:40,560
that you're giving.
That means that you'd have a lot

3209
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:46,200
of emphasis on like the justice
building, like the, the hard ass

3210
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:47,840
stuff.
And like you had to focus more

3211
02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:50,080
on like for your third eye, you
got to balance, you got to find

3212
02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:52,400
balance between the two of them.
Love that.

3213
02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:55,840
Yes, yes.
So now here's the trippy part

3214
02:22:56,080 --> 02:23:02,720
right finish the journey.
I go back to the air to to the

3215
02:23:02,720 --> 02:23:06,040
to the couch surfing.
As I'm getting into the

3216
02:23:06,040 --> 02:23:10,120
compound, the girl from Brazil
and the girl from Ireland are

3217
02:23:10,120 --> 02:23:13,680
going to like what would be like
a Peruvian BBQ.

3218
02:23:13,880 --> 02:23:18,440
OK, but it was 2 hours away by
bus right next to one of the

3219
02:23:18,440 --> 02:23:22,320
sacred sites.
So I'm like stay like you want

3220
02:23:22,320 --> 02:23:24,320
to come with us?
I'm like, sure.

3221
02:23:25,640 --> 02:23:28,360
So now the whole bus ride, I'm
like, fuck, was that real?

3222
02:23:29,320 --> 02:23:33,560
Or was it just like drugs?
You know, Like did it really

3223
02:23:33,560 --> 02:23:36,320
Like, you know, I'm going back
and forth, like just wondering

3224
02:23:36,320 --> 02:23:39,600
like fuck, like that was crazy.
So two hours in the bus, I'm

3225
02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:41,840
listening like I'm just like
kind of like just looking at

3226
02:23:41,840 --> 02:23:43,400
Peru and just thinking about
this.

3227
02:23:44,480 --> 02:23:47,760
We get to the place and there's
the Iowa Skiddo there, and Iowa

3228
02:23:47,760 --> 02:23:50,840
Skiddo is a guy who will go get
it from the market.

3229
02:23:50,840 --> 02:23:52,920
You want to do ayahuasca?
Come on, man, we'll do ayahuasca

3230
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:55,000
together.
He's not a shaman, though.

3231
02:23:55,000 --> 02:23:59,000
A shaman is like, if I'm your
father and I'm a shaman, when

3232
02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:01,800
you turn 14, you're going to go
through the ayahuasca and then

3233
02:24:01,800 --> 02:24:03,840
you're going to become a shaman,
right?

3234
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:09,160
Yeah, that's how shamans work.
But ayahuascahetto, like their

3235
02:24:09,160 --> 02:24:11,160
parents were never shamans.
They just fucking did.

3236
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:15,280
Yeah, yeah, 'cause it's there.
Is it this guy history shamans?

3237
02:24:15,760 --> 02:24:18,520
This guy had this tattoo, so I
have a tattoo on my elbow.

3238
02:24:18,800 --> 02:24:20,680
OK.
Right, let me see.

3239
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,080
You can probably can't see too
much with the hair.

3240
02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:24,600
Yeah.
What is it?

3241
02:24:24,880 --> 02:24:27,440
It's a it's a Jaguar.
Yeah, that's how I was going to

3242
02:24:27,440 --> 02:24:28,720
say it looks like a leopard of
Jaguar.

3243
02:24:28,720 --> 02:24:30,600
It looks like a Jaguar.
Now look at his third eye in his

3244
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:33,200
right eye.
Third eye in the right eye on

3245
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:34,000
your elbow.
Yeah.

3246
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:36,720
OK.
The red one.

3247
02:24:36,880 --> 02:24:37,480
Yeah.
Yeah.

3248
02:24:37,480 --> 02:24:40,800
What about it?
So the right eye was closed and

3249
02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:43,760
the third eye was open.
Oh shit.

3250
02:24:44,080 --> 02:24:46,320
Right.
So I was like, oh shit.

3251
02:24:47,880 --> 02:24:51,320
I was like, I'm like, listen,
I'm like, I did ayahuasca last

3252
02:24:51,320 --> 02:24:53,640
night, and she was talking about
how she had to take my third

3253
02:24:53,640 --> 02:24:54,240
eye.
Yeah.

3254
02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:56,120
I mean, take my right eye in
order for my third eye to open.

3255
02:24:56,120 --> 02:24:58,160
And like, I see this.
I'm two hours away.

3256
02:24:58,160 --> 02:25:00,560
Like, bro, I started freaking
the fuck out and he starts

3257
02:25:00,560 --> 02:25:03,320
laughing at me.
And he's like, bro, he's like,

3258
02:25:03,320 --> 02:25:05,600
you take this reality too
serious.

3259
02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:10,280
He's like every religion talks
about how this is an illusion.

3260
02:25:10,320 --> 02:25:11,640
Yeah.
He's like, you're too caught up

3261
02:25:11,640 --> 02:25:13,400
in the illusion.
He's like, she wants you to

3262
02:25:13,400 --> 02:25:17,400
meditate so that you could get
to those type of places without

3263
02:25:17,400 --> 02:25:19,200
having to use the medicine.
Beautiful.

3264
02:25:19,960 --> 02:25:21,560
Right.
So just like any other mother,

3265
02:25:21,560 --> 02:25:23,760
she wants you to live your life
without having to depend on her.

3266
02:25:23,760 --> 02:25:25,000
Yeah.
And I was like.

3267
02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:27,760
That's beautiful.
So I was like, damn, like that

3268
02:25:27,760 --> 02:25:29,720
happened there and this is.
That's incredible.

3269
02:25:29,720 --> 02:25:32,160
That's an incredible, that's an
incredible, incredible.

3270
02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:34,560
So all my doubts, I was like,
OK, that was real.

3271
02:25:34,880 --> 02:25:35,880
Yeah, there's no way that it
was.

3272
02:25:35,880 --> 02:25:37,760
No, it has to be.
It has to be so.

3273
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:41,440
That's my experience that I was.
Wow, they say.

3274
02:25:41,440 --> 02:25:45,240
You know, I what makes something
a miracle?

3275
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:48,920
It's it's correlation in time
with your intention or event,

3276
02:25:49,080 --> 02:25:50,280
right?
Like if I tell you it's going to

3277
02:25:50,280 --> 02:25:53,320
rain and then the sky just open
up and it starts raining as soon

3278
02:25:53,320 --> 02:25:56,080
as it comes out of my mouth,
you're like, wow, if it's going

3279
02:25:56,120 --> 02:25:58,160
to rain and three days from now
it starts raining, I'm like,

3280
02:25:58,160 --> 02:25:59,680
see, I told you, you're like, go
fuck yourself.

3281
02:25:59,680 --> 02:26:03,000
You know, I don't care, you
know, so like, but something so

3282
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:07,120
specific and so detailed and
then to just like happen like is

3283
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:10,280
like that's too close, like it's
too good.

3284
02:26:10,280 --> 02:26:10,880
It's too.
It's too.

3285
02:26:10,880 --> 02:26:13,760
What was the chances that I left
the Ayahuasca center?

3286
02:26:14,240 --> 02:26:18,280
I That's not high enough.
Not high enough for me to bet

3287
02:26:18,280 --> 02:26:20,360
on.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

3288
02:26:20,360 --> 02:26:22,480
Do you catch them?
If you put your money on that

3289
02:26:22,480 --> 02:26:25,200
being something real or that
being a total coincidence, what

3290
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:27,960
are you gonna do?
That's something real to me, as

3291
02:26:27,960 --> 02:26:30,040
far as I'm concerned.
Bro that was enough for me to

3292
02:26:30,040 --> 02:26:33,000
not question shit.
I was like this is legit.

3293
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:35,480
Dee Sham is not what they're
talking about this Peruvian

3294
02:26:35,480 --> 02:26:37,040
history.
Of yeah, for real.

3295
02:26:37,160 --> 02:26:39,200
In the Amazon like it's.
For real.

3296
02:26:39,560 --> 02:26:41,960
Yeah, yeah, let's let's call it
here.

3297
02:26:41,960 --> 02:26:44,040
That's a great way to end it.
And we'll do another one.

3298
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:45,240
Dude, this is this is ton of
fun.

3299
02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:47,080
And we didn't touch any.
We didn't touch a bunch of stuff

3300
02:26:47,080 --> 02:26:48,720
we want to get to, but I don't
give a shit because that was

3301
02:26:48,720 --> 02:26:51,920
awesome.
Dude, thank you so much for

3302
02:26:51,920 --> 02:26:52,480
doing this.
How do?

3303
02:26:52,520 --> 02:26:55,320
I oh, there we go.