#130: Secret Santa / PBJ Agencies / Steel Business / Trump’s 1st Year

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Welcome to another episode of
Come Together.

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Maybe like a minute or two in
just to listen back and just

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make sure that the audio is good
because I just started using

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this for the first time.
My wife got this as a 30th

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birthday present.
Dude, Secret Santa, I I was

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podcast list for a week.
I was going to do a solo episode

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today and and the other day and
I think on Chavez, friends of

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ours, Kiwi friend of the podcast
who also single handedly

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demolished about four where they
were unpublishable because we

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were drinking while we recorded
them and it went out of it got

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out of control last week.
We did one on Christmas night

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and like 45 minutes into it, I
was like, we can't do this

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anymore.
And then and then I, we started

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over and then another half an
hour and we're like, OK, we're

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just going to, we're going to
call it quits.

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It's not possible.
What's going on, man?

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How are you?
I'm doing great.

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I'm doing great.
I'm enjoying the weather.

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It's a little bit nippy tonight.
The Florida standards.

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But that's the way I like it
here.

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But I love it.
Here's the reason why you lived

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there.
This is why we're down here.

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How often are you down here?
Not often enough.

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I'd like to be down here pretty
much all winter and I and summer

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too.
I I don't mind the sweat.

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Yeah.
If I'm appropriately dressed,

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which is not much at all.
Yeah.

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Then you know.
Definitely.

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Give me a beer and a swimming
pool and I don't care how a lot

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of kids.
How long you been coming down to

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Florida spending time here?
Well, I mean to visit for, you

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know, 30 years, maybe more, but
regularly since 10 years ago

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maybe.
Yeah.

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Love it.
I've got relatives here.

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So cool.
It's great.

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It's great.
And my brother who he lives in

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Nicaragua half the year so.
No way.

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Yeah, he's.
He's how do you pick on?

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How do you pick Nicaragua?
Oh.

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Man, he's, well, he's not really
that falsitish, if you know what

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I mean.
And it he, he travels a lot.

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He travels to Colombia,
Nicaragua, Belize.

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That's all Central America,
technical or South.

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He, he goes all over.
He he's one of those people at

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American Airlines.
They send him personal letters

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because he spends so much with
them.

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Yeah, but he's got a place in
Miami.

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And when he's not there, which
is most of the time, so I used

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to just crash at his place and
take his car and his apartment.

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Good brother.
Sort of assume his life,

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basically.
And.

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Yeah.
And he's a whiskey aficionado,

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so you get into his place and.
And there's whiskey and

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everything else you need.
And.

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And even though he doesn't keep
too much, he kept a shelf for me

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in the freezer full of the food
that I can eat.

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There you go.
Yeah.

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That's awesome.
That's awesome.

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My dad has a log cabin in North
Carolina in the mountains, right

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in the right in the border.
It's actually closer to the

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nearest.
The nearest town is in

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Tennessee.
OK Johnson City.

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It's and then the next closest
city in our next biggest city in

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North Carolina is Asheville.
It's about, yeah, maybe it's

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funny because it's maybe 30-40
miles, but it's about an hour

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and 20 minute drive because it's
all side roads and mountains.

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Like it's all just like a little
one way dinky Rd. like through

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the woods.
I've been there, been there.

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A friend of mine, but we'll talk
about him in a minute, but he

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used to live in Maggie Valley
and Maggie Valley is near a tail

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of the dragon famous, really,
really curvy Rd. that the

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motorcycles of the world flocked
to.

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OK, so when I was down there a
couple years back, he and I went

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on a motorcycle ride through
Maggie Valley.

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And when we got back, I was so
happy I didn't crash his BMW

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bike.
And I said, and of course we're

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going to change the names and
organizations to protect the

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innocents and the not so
innocent.

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So I said Bob.
We'll call him Bob.

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A good way to start.
Bob I I didn't wreck your bike.

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He's like, that's good, that's
good.

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I said.
Bob, one out of 10, how hard

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were you pushing on this very
difficult all day cruise that we

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took through the mountains?
And he said about a four.

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Now I've been riding since I'm
thirteen years old and that four

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for him was a 10 for me.
Yeah, Yeah.

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Very challenging, right?
But great, rewarding.

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We went to the top of Mount
Pisca.

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OK, where is that?
Do you know what Pisca means?

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Pisca.
Pisca in in.

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Hebrew means point.
The peak, the peak, OK, It's

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called Mount Pisca there.
You go and I know.

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Mount Peak?
Do you know who named it Mount

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Pisca?
I believe the CHUMASH Indians

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CHUMASH spell it.
Out Kumashi.

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That's what the tribe was.
I don't wear it.

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Yeah, look it up.
Humash or Humash Indians.

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And they they call it Mount
Pisca.

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Like ah, hello.
Wow. 10 Lost tribes, anyone?

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So when we got to the peak, it
was like in the 30s, yeah, it

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was so cold up there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It was nice because hand heated
handle bars and heated sea, but

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I was still absolutely frozen.
So.

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So Bob used to work for an
organization, we'll call it the

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PPJI.
Love PPJ like.

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Peanut butter Jelly.
Yeah, like PPJ.

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Yeah.
So I know Bob a long time 'cause

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when Bob worked for the PBJI was
a little involved with Bob, but

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we'll get to that in a minute.
OK, wait before he can you give

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me, Can you give me any kind of
context or background

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information that might be useful
for this?

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I grew up Orthodox, mostly in,
you know, small towns.

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Generally Midwest.
Midwest.

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I've been closer to God and
further.

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We all have.
Yeah, we just, it's a journey.

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Hopefully in the end we we're
closer than when we.

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Start up.
Yeah, you grew up a bit, but you

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got to explore.
When you're young, everybody

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explores to some extent.
Sure.

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I was fortunate enough to have a
lot of experiences in my life.

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Some were good, some were
better.

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That's a good answer.
Right.

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Right, right.
Praise the Lord, I'll tell you

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that I've still, I'm still OK
after all I've seen and done,

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seen and done, we're we're still
ticket.

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One of my favorite I I went, I
went to a College in Binghamton,

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upstate New York and the rabbi,
the Kabad rabbi there or Rabaine

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there was very close with he
used to say as Bracha, they'd

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say busing.
They would say it should be

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revealed it it's all the
blessing in your life should be

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revealed.
Blessing as in everything is

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good.
But like it takes time for you

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to see that it's good, you know,
so to be revealed how it's good

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to you, like you should see how
it's good in your life because

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that's the challenge is when
like we don't understand exactly

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what things are about and what
things are for and when things

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happen and they're not the way
you plan them out to be

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necessarily, it's still good.
It's just you got to recalibrate

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what you consider to be, I guess
what you're looking for.

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Yeah, when we were young we were
always taught it's like taking a

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beautiful canvas and slapping a
bunch of oil based paint on it

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and you're ruining the whole
thing.

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But if you give it some time,
maybe a couple of 100 or maybe a

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couple thousand years, the
painter, it's evident.

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The painter knows what he's
doing.

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Sometimes we just see the
ruining of the canvas.

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But.
I like to see it.

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I like to imagine a sculpture by
the way, because that's like we

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are chipping away at a rock and
like you could only see the form

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as things are falling away.
Sort of like your poetry, right

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when you started it.
Sometimes it's garbled and then

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you got to move things around a
little bit and change some

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words.
So in the end, I see where

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you're going with this.
Yeah, I wrote.

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Poetry when I was younger and
braver, yeah.

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I I love poetry.
The big hardest part of poetry,

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of writing it for me is actually
editing.

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I'm a one draft.
I'm a one draft writer.

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See, you got to have somebody
else edit it.

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Yeah.
You can't read your own stuff.

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Your brain reads something
that's not there.

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It reads what you what you want
to be there.

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Yeah.
And when somebody else sees it

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and critiques it, and sometimes
it's painful, but they they

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really can get it.
Anything has to be done outside.

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Yeah, reading out loud helps
with that process to me when I,

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when I, when I read it out loud
to myself.

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And I actually encourage my high
school students to do the same

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thing.
A lot of times when we're doing

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assignment in class once more, a
lot of times in assignment

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class, they'll say I'm done and
I'll be like, we did you edit it

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And they'll say, yeah, and I'll
be like, read out loud to

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yourself and then come back to
me.

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And if there's no changes, you
didn't read out loud to yourself

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because no one gets that right.
You know, it's, it's tough.

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My first college course ever was
an English course.

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It was English one O 1 and I had
a professor.

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I I've fallen out of touch with
him, but he was a fantastic

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individual.
His name was Harry Krinicky and

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Harry on the first day told us
use your imagination, don't be

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afraid of it.
He says.

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Everybody got a piece of paper
and a pen.

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I'm going to leave the class for
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When I come back, I want 2 pages
back, front and back.

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I want a story, no questions
asked.

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If you can't write it, you don't
belong in this class.

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Then he left.
He made us write.

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And, you know, some of them were
terrible, but at least we got

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into it.
Just you'll get the editing

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later.
Yeah.

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Jump into the pool.
Yeah, yeah.

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A big part of it is if my
experience at least is learning

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how we think.
We tend to think in general non

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linear, non linearly, but we try
to train ourselves to stay

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linear.
But a lot of creativity is that

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non linear jumping around train
of thoughts.

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It's all associated, right?
And so, like if I tell you

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again, if I tell you what's the
first thing you think of, you

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know, at a backyard pool party,
your story that you're going to

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paint is very different than the
story that I paint, you know,

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and a lot of times.
I was thinking of alcohol.

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I don't know about you.
Oh, well, yeah, Yeah.

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But what's the setting?
Where are you?

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Like if you were like to imagine
like as a shot or like a shot as

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a movie and like you're creating
a little world, the world that

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you're creating is probably not
this backyard over here, you

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know it's.
Probably it could be.

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It could be, but that's probably
not your media association.

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You're it's probably something
at home.

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It's probably something you know
with with more people that you

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care about or like a
particularly fond or unpleasant

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moment.
You know something or the other.

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But but the point is that
there's like there's a nonlinear

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train of thought that we're not
used to following.

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And it's totally cool too, you
know, and there's nothing wrong

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with kind of just taking paths,
different paths and seeing where

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trains of thought and seeing
where they go, even if they

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don't necessarily make sense.
And we make sense of things and

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it takes.
It takes some bravery to to get

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off the path, yeah, but it also
takes some bravery to stay on

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the path.
Yeah.

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You know the finest.
Well, they used to be anyways.

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I'm not sure if they still are,
but the finest organization,

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military organization in the
world is the Secret Service.

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They are the best trained
American Secret Service.

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American Secret Service.
Yeah, the best trained

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operators.
And well, they used to be

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anyways, like I said.
But for a time they were, they

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were really the best.
And what's made them stand out

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was that they were anonymous.
They weren't there when the

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president or whoever they were
guarding dressed in a suit.

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They dressed in a suit when the
president or wherever they were

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guarding was in a polo and some
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That's where they were, too.
You didn't want to see them.

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They need to blend in.
They they had to have no ego.

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In order to have no ego, you got
to do the same bland thing all

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the time.
Yeah, but that really requires a

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great sense of ego, a great
sense of self.

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They were very, they're supposed
to be very assured.

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They were well trained.
They knew what they were doing.

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They knew their mission.
And therefore they didn't have

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to brag.
They didn't have to tell people

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what they were doing because
they knew it.

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And it takes a certain bravery
to stay on the path.

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It takes some bravery to wear
black and white.

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Let's just say that's brave in
a, in a, you know, yeshiva

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setting and not we'll see.
I need to, I need to have some

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color in my life because color's
fun.

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And black and white is not so
much fun.

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And so it, it requires bravery
to get off the path and do

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things that other people don't
do.

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And also, there's a time where
you just put your head down and

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do your homework.
That's what you need to do right

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now.
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

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I spoke to someone in the
podcast that was in the secret

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is not what was it for?
It was Secret Service, but it

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was perimeter.
It was like sweeping before and

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after, like setting the.
That's Secret Service.

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They do lots and.
He said that a lot of people

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burn out within the first couple
of years because of how

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monotonous it is and a lot of
people use it as a stepping

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stone to something else.
And that very rarely do people

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like people don't have the
tolerance of the patients,

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especially because presumably
you're signing up for action and

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it takes a long time to get
there and it takes.

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Yeah.
Back.

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Yeah, that's what you said.
What do you think about that?

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I had the opportunity to work
with those fine gentlemen on

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many occasions, OK?
And I tell you I have utmost

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respect for them and what they
do.

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And a lot of it is boring and
monotonous and goes on and on

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with no sense of attaboy.
You did a great job because

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nothing happened.
Validation, right?

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Zero.
I mean, nothing happened, so

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therefore you did a great job.
On the flip side, when things do

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happen, you know, all heck
breaks loose, right?

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Or when one or two of them in a
50 year period step out of line,

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like in Martha's Vineyard, I
think years ago, couple of them

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got drunk or something like
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Big deal.
You got a huge organization, a

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couple of them have a couple
drinks and what happens?

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It's like a priest spit on the
ground.

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Hey, he just spit on the ground.
But no, he's a priest.

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Priests don't spit in public,
right?

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A rabbi does something big deal.
He's got a little stain on his

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clothing and And what the rabbi?
You can't understand and.

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Blow me over the rabbi, Right.
So the secret serves the same

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thing, like they're supposed to
be the best.

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So a couple of them have a
problem and it becomes look how

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bad they are.
But yeah, they're it.

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It's difficult.
Now.

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I would say that the secret
servers have the same job as

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many of us over and over again,
like you were saying in a

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previous podcast, taking care of
your kids.

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There's a monotony to that every
day doing the same thing.

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And and then there's that time
when your kids on the scooter

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learning how to Yeah.
And that's beautiful.

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Like it went well.
That is awesome, Yeah.

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And that's what we want.
We want it to go well.

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And you see, and you see the
fruits of it at the end, and you

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don't know when it's going to be
or what it's going to look like.

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And you just know that it's
whatever it is, it's going to be

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great.
And then it is, you know, and

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then you're like, wow, this is
better than I thought it could

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have been.
So I had the opportunity to to

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be on a couple of details with
one was protecting the builder

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of the Internet, you know him,
Al Gore.

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Al Gore, Yeah.
Yeah, sure.

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Yeah.
So before he was famous for the

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Internet.
Was he a climate guy?

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He was a climate change guy too,
in his private jet.

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Yeah, we're getting political I.
Don't know, I'm sorry.

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I can get political.
We get political all right.

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For sure, by the way, especially
if we're anonymous.

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Santa Santa's getting political
this year.

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Oh.
There it comes.

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So.
Yeah, I had.

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That was a great opportunity and
I felt great about myself.

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But the people who are really
close to him were never, were

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never seen, never heard of.
And you know, the snipers on top

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of the roofs all over were never
seen, thank God, never heard

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from, thank God again.
And nobody got an Atta boy

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because nothing happened.
So with life, I think there's so

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many times where you don't get
an Atta boy and a husband or a

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wife, you know, they stay quiet
and they don't answer back,

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which which they can't.
You know, a lot of times the

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spouse really upsets you.
You know, the people who are

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closest to you, they hurt the
most and they're quiet.

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You know, that is where the
that's where the toughness comes

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in.
You want to be tough.

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You want to be water off a
duck's back and no one's going

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to say attaboy unless your dad
was in the room with you and say

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he says, hey, Brian, that was
pretty impressive.

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You stayed.
You stayed still.

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You know you and maybe.
You're never going to get that.

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Yeah, exactly.
But that's, that's life, Yeah.

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Same thing over and over again.
Do it right, do it right, do it

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right.
And occasionally when you do it

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wrong, which is going to happen
to all of us, Yeah, it's OK.

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It's OK.
So how do you feel about like

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these events, like Trump getting
shot at and or like that second

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guy that made his way into the
golf course?

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I was like, had a stupid gun
poking out of the woods.

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And again, forget about from a
political, you know,

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perspective, unless you want to
go into that.

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But judge from a Secret Service
perspective.

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Is that kind of the kind of
thing that you say, listen,

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there are things that happen
every single day and you never

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hear about it because you're
doing such a great job.

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And the one time that something
goes wrong, obviously it's going

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to get blown up.
Or do you say that was like,

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hey, man, like everyone should
get fired?

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That sucks.
Well, you opened up the biggest

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rabbit hole that you probably
could have the second one pretty

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much early on in the
conversation here, but I don't

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know how to respond to that
other than saying we'll get to

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that in a minute.
When I was, you know, thank,

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thank the Lord, I've been I've
I've gotten a lot of good

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training in my life from
different organizations and one

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of the best training that I've
gotten was to divert and stay

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out of the conversation.
So the conversation go any which

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way but you can be in control of
the conversation in most

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situations like.
What are you doing right now you

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mean?
Yeah, sort of.

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I mean, if you're being
waterboarded or a Chinese water

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torture or or somebody has a
really, really good piece of

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pizza and they're they're.
They're going to drive you in

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there, you know?
Sometimes, which might be more

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difficult than that, right?
Pizza looks good.

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I'll tell you anything you want.
Or you're at the chiropractor.

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You tell him anything right
there.

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You know, he's got your arm
twisted 17 different ways and

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you can't feel your legs.
So.

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So I've been through a lot of
situations that are and I don't

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even remember.
And when you get older, the body

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has a magnificent way of
forgetting, which is really

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good.
Forgetting is one of the best

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healing processes that God gave
us.

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If you wouldn't be able to
forget, you'd live through

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horrors over and over and over
again.

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Yeah.
And some of us do you know it.

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It's post traumatic.
I don't.

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Remember a lot of my, of my like
late childhood, early teenage

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years.
Were they rough?

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Well, I didn't like them.
I mean, they weren't like rough,

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but I, I wasn't, I wasn't, I
wasn't particularly happy or

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comfortable or.
I feel you're there bro.

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You know, and so I really like
there are a couple of particular

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times or moments or like straws
that I'll grasp at that I'll

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recall, but like for the most
part really very little.

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I'm pretty happy that I don't
remember a lot because I do

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remember the pain of the times.
Right though, that that stays

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with you.
Yeah, but you.

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But on a daily basis, you don't
you don't wake up and say, oh, I

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got that image right here.
That's night terror.

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That's that's really bad.
And I, I used to have night

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terrors.
I'd wake up sweating and

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screaming and.
What'd you, what'd you do about

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it?
I went to a psychologist when I

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first got married.
My life changed.

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I had somebody living in the
house with me where previously I

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didn't.
And how old you when you got

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married?
25.

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Gotcha, same age.
Yeah, very awesome.

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And I I used to.
You buy your own for 7-8 years

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already.
Well, mostly, I mean, I have

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roommates and this and that, but
I, I wasn't sharing a life with

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somebody.
The first year was, was kind of

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rough.
I, I would wake up and, and in

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different situations, you know,
I'm just not, not so happy.

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So I decided to be a man about
it and go see a psychologist and

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it actually helped a great deal
with the.

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Same time that Sony Tony Soprano
made the same bold choice,

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right?
I mean, yeah, I've I've never

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watched a full Soprano issue,
but no, sorry, not episode.

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Yeah, episode.
But I I get the, I get the gist,

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Yeah.
You didn't watch Sopranos?

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I know Tony Soprano is, you
know.

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What I'm saying, Yeah, but the
show's about his.

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Therapy, therapy.
You have to.

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Is he with the therapist at all?
That side, he wants to, of

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course he wants to, but because
everyone does, because the

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therapist is the person that
they're like truly opening up to

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and connecting to and the only
person that they feel like they

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could be honest with.
Well, this was a friend of mine

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and I I had to trust him with it
and I did, and it helped.

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Yeah, they get to talk therapy.
Do I what?

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Was it regular talk therapy?
Was it?

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Oh, where you going with this?
I mean, what kind of therapy is

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there?
I mean I know a lot of people do

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psychedelics for.
People Oh no, no, no, I I wasn't

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brave enough and I get random
drug testing so I can't do that

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gotcha, but it was it was
helpful and I don't.

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Know if it's staying your
system?

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I don't.
Know I think that the half life

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marijuana is probably.
No weeds, like 30 days, yeah,

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but like mushrooms I think is
like a day or two.

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Oh, really?
Yeah, Yeah, I'm not going to do

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that for all those listening to
this podcast I have.

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Santa's not interested in my.
I did.

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Try weed once and it took me.
I was drinking as well and I

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figured I'd try.
This knock you out.

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Well, it took me one hour to
walk around the block.

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Yeah, one hour.
That checks out.

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I was not happy at all.
Yeah.

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And I just can't, I can't do it
anymore.

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But I'm, I'm OK with people who
do it, you know, just it's, it's

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a it's a medicine for what ails
you, I guess.

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Just don't abuse it.
Alcohol, same thing.

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You drink a bottle of alcohol in
one sitting, you're you're going

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to be hurt.
Yeah.

452
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:22,000
I mean, I don't think you could
smoke yourself dead, but you can

453
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,920
definitely drink yourself dead.
Yeah, yeah, I, I had a theory

454
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,160
about alcohol and weed that as
vices alcohol is much more

455
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,160
social and that the previous
generation had a much more

456
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,200
social component of life, like
even like businesses and

457
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,920
conferences.
And like when I, I think right

458
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,120
before Covad is really when like
it was still going on, what much

459
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,680
more, but my friends would get
like go to accounting jobs at,

460
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,400
you know, KPMG or Ernst and
Young and they would go out

461
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,120
three, four, you know, 2-3 times
a week at the especially at the

462
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,680
beginning, you know, but
different or seasonally for

463
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,920
drinks with the team and the
partners at dinners.

464
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,760
And they just build everything
and, and they go to clubs and

465
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,600
they do whatever and like, and
everything.

466
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,960
You just has a massive social
component to it.

467
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,280
And now people's vice of choice
increasingly, increasingly is

468
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,120
weed, which is a lot more
reclusive.

469
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,920
And it make it makes you like a
little bit more to hang out.

470
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,920
Let's stay where we are.
It doesn't motivate you to kind

471
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,800
of get up and talk to people.
And if you already kind of have

472
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,760
a infrastructure set up, then
like, and you're already social,

473
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,800
you're already social.
But as far as like a general

474
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,800
tendency of like what people
tend like would want to do or

475
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,560
not.
And like, in a much more

476
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,080
isolated and lonely world with
social media and phones and

477
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,520
remote work, weed is like, every
drug of choice because it just

478
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,080
allows them to kind of be
comfortable in this isolation.

479
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,040
Yeah.
They zone out.

480
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,320
Yeah.
I'm not a proponent of illegal

481
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:54,200
drugs or even legal medicines
being abused, sure.

482
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,160
But I think everything in this
world that God gave us, he gave

483
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,280
us for a reason.
Yeah.

484
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,920
They're the the worst poisons in
the world can, can heal us in

485
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,880
ways that we never understood
until recently.

486
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,880
Look, Botulism toxin, right?
And now they're using it for all

487
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,520
kinds of things that are helping
people from, you know,

488
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,160
physically on the face to, to in
the in other parts of the body

489
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,160
to relax muscles that have
spasms.

490
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,640
And it's really, it's really a
great discovery and everything

491
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,120
in moderation, really everything
in moderation.

492
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:37,360
So when you ask me these deep
questions like that, I go back

493
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:44,360
to when the world was, in my
opinion, less confusing.

494
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,720
And maybe I was less confusing.
I don't know the.

495
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,040
World is less confusing.
But I think I think when around

496
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,280
COVID time, I feel like the
world really changed.

497
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,320
I think there was a major, major
shift that we're we're not even

498
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,280
feeling the effects of entirely
yet.

499
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:09,440
And so when you talk to me about
the post COVID Trump era, those

500
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,880
things make about as much sense
as Froot Loops and can filter

501
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,240
fish together.
I mean, why would you do that?

502
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,680
It doesn't make sense.
The fact that, you know,

503
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,960
conspiracy theories abound
because there's social media

504
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,720
that is out of control.
Not that you should control

505
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,320
social media.
I don't know about how I feel

506
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,200
about that, but.
Yeah, that's the problem.

507
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,000
Also all these slippery slopes.
Yeah.

508
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,440
Are there UFOs?
You know, maybe right?

509
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,160
I'm a huge fan of it.
Exactly.

510
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,040
I'm dying for it to be.
Heard I've heard on your your

511
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:45,480
podcast and you know what?
I'm OK with UFOs.

512
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,400
I love sci-fi and if they came
200 billion light years away, we

513
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,680
don't have to worry.
They could destroy us to any

514
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,920
minute, right?
If they're here to be friends,

515
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,480
yeah, they're not here to do
anything else 'cause if they

516
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,120
wanted to, that's.
That figure.

517
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,120
They're highly.
If they have been around

518
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,080
forever, then like what's the
evidence that they have any kind

519
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,400
of malicious intent?
Like there's no evidence to

520
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,600
presume that.
And they can't be much more

521
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,280
religious malicious than the
Nazis or the Spaniards or the

522
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,600
English or everybody else that
threw us out.

523
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,360
And then America's not is no
longer a safe haven.

524
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,120
You don't think so?
No, come on, it's not.

525
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,000
I mean, where is?
Not Australia.

526
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,920
Not England.
Not Spain.

527
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,800
Germany, France.
Definitely not.

528
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,200
Europe.
Not Somalia, that's for sure.

529
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,440
Or Minneapolis.
Yeah, You know the the problem

530
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,040
with this, I did a podcast, I
wanted someone else's show and

531
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,240
we were talking very, very
briefly about the Israel thing,

532
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,680
about Israel in general.
And because I'm one of the first

533
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,120
Orthodox Jews and this guy was,
you know, really talking to my

534
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,160
deep and profound kind of way.
It is a relatively short

535
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:07,720
conversation, but one of the
things I said was Israel and

536
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,840
Jews relationship to it is so
schizophrenic that and like it

537
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,680
was all done in such a rush, in
such a short period of time that

538
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,840
we never really had a chance to
like figure out like what what

539
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,680
we are or like what like what
the country's supposed to be.

540
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,680
You know, like a huge portion of
the country thinks that it

541
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,320
should be a strictly religious
country, you know, and there's a

542
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,640
very strong argument he made for
that.

543
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,120
And then there's, I mean, if
you're going to talk about some

544
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,840
of the people that founded, you
know, Israel, like they're

545
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,840
coming from different
backgrounds, like Russia or like

546
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Germany or like America, where
there's communism, there's

547
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,000
fascism, there's democracy and,
you know, democracy and freedom

548
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,640
to whatever extent that, you
know, we have it or liberal

549
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,000
democracies.
And everyone's kind of had like

550
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,320
debating what kind of like,
what, what do we want this place

551
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,760
to be?
Do you want this place to be a

552
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,320
country?
Do you want it to just be a home

553
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,160
that Jews could go to?
Do we want it to be a

554
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,640
government?
Like, do we need to be a

555
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,080
religious home?
Like what should it be?

556
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,560
And I think that we still don't
know what the answer is.

557
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440
You know, like, what's our tie?
What's our relationship with

558
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,760
America?
You know what should our

559
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,000
relationship with America be?
That's a.

560
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,440
That's a very like.
Open doors like like Israel and

561
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,320
America, like open corridors to
one another.

562
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,160
I mean, you step on an airplane,
you step in a tube and you see

563
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,880
and you walk out and everyone
takes the currency and everyone

564
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,000
speaks the language and everyone
knows every, everyone's been

565
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,520
back and forth to the other
place.

566
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,880
And like there seems to be this
like, you know, very, you know,

567
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,200
deep relationship and we know as
far as their intelligence and as

568
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,360
far as governments go, they, I
mean, for sure, you know, like

569
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,440
an enormous amount of, of shared
relationships so.

570
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,200
You would think.
One would think.

571
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,840
I would think.
But.

572
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,840
One would think there are
elements.

573
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,720
There are elements that I really
don't know.

574
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,280
I don't know what I'm saying.
I just have a feeling.

575
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:10,240
But there are elements that wish
to change, not even the status

576
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,640
quo.
They wish to change things in a

577
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:21,760
radical way that will
permanently alter the way we

578
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,480
think about our freedoms and our
relationships with other

579
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,840
countries and with ourselves.
There's no other way to think

580
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,880
about it.
Can you clarify?

581
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,480
So pre COVID, let's go back to
the early 90s, I was, I was very

582
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,080
fortunate to graduate the police
Academy, the basic police

583
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,920
Academy and became an EMT as
well.

584
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,440
Nice and.
How was the police Academy?

585
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,680
You know, I was religious and
the police academy's not.

586
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,040
So the police is not religious.
It's not, it's not a place for

587
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,520
religious people.
And I struggled and I was

588
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,440
discriminated against every
turn, I bet.

589
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,760
And that was good for me and it,
it helped me tremendously every

590
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,760
time I was discriminated against
for, you know, promotions and

591
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:21,480
rank or, or different types of
jobs, I learned from it and I

592
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,800
didn't give up.
And I, you know, a lot of times

593
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,160
I wanted to give up, but I, I
was, I was blessed to have met

594
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:36,680
some rabbis who really instilled
in me the basic fundamentals of

595
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,240
faith and belief.
And although I falter everyday,

596
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,840
I, I, I know that God's on my
side.

597
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,720
I don't believe it.
I know it.

598
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,200
Everybody has a guardian Angel.
I think I have a battalion.

599
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,880
I'm so stupid that I I would
have put myself in jail,

600
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,960
hospital, or a psychiatric ward
dozens of times in my life were

601
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,480
it not for the grace of God's
angels protecting me, smacking

602
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:14,040
me and Wrecking Ball, moving me
into better position. 20 years,

603
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,920
20 years of hindsight.
Are you saying this in the 90s

604
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,360
when this is happening?
30 years. 30 years of hindsight,

605
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,440
I know, but I don't want to talk
about that.

606
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,320
It's alright, you turned. 30,
yeah.

607
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,640
You turned 30.
I turned more than that.

608
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:34,440
So 35, yeah, 35 exactly.
I like that number and I, I

609
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,600
appreciate the, the work that
has been done on my behalf.

610
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,200
I don't think it's difficult for
God, there's no difficulties,

611
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,920
but there are, there's
definitely work.

612
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,440
So through that career, I, I've
got to see lots of different

613
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,720
departments in different cities
in different states.

614
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:05,200
I got to work with, let's just
call it PBJ on many different

615
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:12,639
levels, land, air and sea, and I
had a lot of fun and a lot of

616
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,440
tears.
I know you were working on a

617
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,520
local level.
A local and not local level.

618
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,480
OK, so I'm glad that I forgot a
lot of the tears because there

619
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,520
were a lot of pain and there was
a lot of fun times.

620
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:39,360
But throughout my career, I was
positioned to help sometimes

621
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,600
those I thought could use my
help, but I also, I became

622
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,159
jaded.
And sometime in the early to mid

623
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:54,120
2000s when I believe things in
my eyes, I mean, it's probably

624
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:59,520
been happening since communism
was injected into our college

625
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,440
professors in the 80s, fifties,
fifties, 50s.

626
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,120
I think Khrushchev in the 50s or
60s said that we will feed you

627
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,560
communism in such small amounts,
you won't even know it until

628
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,560
we've taken over.
And, you know, the Vietnam

629
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,200
conflict slash war wasn't great.
And I, I know I'm not a

630
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,880
proponent of war at all, but
what we don't need is a nation

631
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,720
divided.
And that's really where they're

632
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,440
fantastic spy network and the
KGB was fantastic.

633
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:40,480
They were so deeply integrated
into our society and still are.

634
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,560
Did you watch the Americans that
show The Americans?

635
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,560
I couldn't get through.
It was too violent for me.

636
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,080
I, I can't divide.
I walked out of Saving Private

637
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Ryan in the like, first scene.
I was like it.

638
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,160
It's too PTSD for me.
So for a long time now I can

639
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,240
sort of handle it.
But for a long time I, you know,

640
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:04,520
I saw things on the job that I,
that just affected me too much

641
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,880
and I, I could not, I mean,
blood didn't affect me in this

642
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,720
real scene.
I was OK, but in a movie and

643
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,680
places where it, I didn't need
to be, I didn't need to be

644
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160
there.
So I stayed away from violence

645
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,320
for a very long time.
I mean, I'm, I'm the silver

646
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,000
Screener on the regular screen
as well.

647
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:31,160
So in the in the 2000s, I think
that's when my brain sort of

648
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,000
kicked in, said something.
Were you domestic?

649
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,440
Were you abroad in the 2000?
I was here domestic, yeah.

650
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,640
I mean, I was back and forth
from different countries, but I

651
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,200
lived in Mexico for a while,
Israel, Canada, but really most

652
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:52,800
of my work was done here and I
the something was Askew.

653
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,480
Looking back, you know when Bill
Clinton was truly trying to make

654
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,560
it in the world stage by having
peace in the Middle East and

655
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,000
being a political science major,
I can tell you that the most

656
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,600
violent times in a country are
when peace is trying to be.

657
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Imposed on them.
Imposed is the right.

658
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:12,680
Word.
That's right.

659
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,640
That's right.
And, and nobody wants the peace,

660
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,000
right?
The bad guys definitely don't

661
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,640
want the peace because then
they're out of business.

662
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,640
Yeah, well, yeah.
Right.

663
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,720
That's a good.
That's a good.

664
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,880
So there were so many bombings
in the 2000s, early thousands,

665
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,000
and so many near bombings, which
in my eyes, just because the

666
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,360
military caught it doesn't mean
that's not a real bombing.

667
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,520
We just didn't see the actual
explosion.

668
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,960
I remember taking my
unsubscribing from Arut Sheva,

669
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,640
which was then not so liberal.
One bombing after another, one

670
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,080
bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb.
I'm like, Oh my gosh, I can't.

671
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:53,200
This is not, this is not right.
It's not well, and then in the

672
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:59,240
mid 2000s, I, I was recruited by
what's called PBJ again.

673
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,520
And some of the things they
wanted me to do was were things

674
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,040
were English teacher, they were
wrong.

675
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,080
We they were not focusing on the
bad guys.

676
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520
They were focusing on not the
bad guys.

677
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,080
And then throughout my career
and I had to juggle that, you

678
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,080
know, and throughout my career,
I slowly saw the shift from

679
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:35,840
mandatory training of domestic
terror instead of foreign

680
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,200
terror.
And I figure, OK, fine, we got

681
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,880
to look out for that.
But it was not, it was, it was

682
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,400
not what you think It was the
terrorists that you, you know, I

683
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,400
say terrorists, you won't
immediately think that, right?

684
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:54,040
It was the pro-life homegrown
Americans that were the

685
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,600
terrorists.
That's what they were feeding

686
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,240
us.
Don't look over here where the

687
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:04,320
real bombings are.
Look over here where some people

688
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,040
are doing some violent acts to
maybe some abortion clinics,

689
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,320
which is never a good.
But that's where the focus was.

690
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,880
It was so hard and pushed right
down our throats like the flu

691
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,600
shot.
It was just, you must have this.

692
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,480
And that's when I realized
something's very wrong, right?

693
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:31,720
Right.
So you how do you feel about the

694
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,160
the theory or the train of
thought that we that we kind of

695
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:44,000
create our own enemies and.
I believe it 100% in 19.

696
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:50,440
In 2007 I was on a treadmill.
I think it was 2007.

697
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:58,400
No, 2004, I was on a treadmill
and USA TODAY had, I was reading

698
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,560
a paper on the treadmill before
your podcast, otherwise I'd be

699
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,120
listening to your podcast.
And they had a full page was a

700
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,680
picture, a huge picture of an
Iraqi soldier addressed in

701
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,120
American fatigues.
And I just, I, I blurted out, I

702
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,880
turned to the guy next to me.
I said, see that guy that we

703
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,720
just supplied, give him 10
years, he's going to be fighting

704
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,480
us.
Who trained Osama bin Laden?

705
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,680
Yeah, we.
I mean, these are not secrets.

706
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,000
I'm not telling.
States they're not secrets.

707
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,240
I don't even know any.
Stakes.

708
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,280
The door has been slown wide
open on that in the.

709
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,600
Last couple of years.
Though like this, it wasn't

710
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,840
public knowledge for many years.
But this is, this is what you

711
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,280
see.
And then you may not understand

712
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,320
what you're seeing at the time.
It's the canvas with some

713
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,440
splatters of oil paint.
You'll never get out on this

714
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,760
beautiful canvas.
That's just the beginning.

715
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,440
Yeah.
So when you ask me about Trump,

716
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:55,440
go back there again.
I mean, you know, a bullet 223

717
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,200
or 556 fired at that distance
that grazes.

718
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,840
I mean, and he turns at the same
time like no I.

719
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,840
Wasn't talking about that one
actually, because that one I

720
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,680
think is crazy.
I think that's crazy.

721
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:07,240
That one is crazy.
I was talking about the second

722
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,360
guy.
And you think that?

723
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,440
Was on the golf.
Course you think that guy on top

724
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,120
of the roof actually fired that
shot?

725
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,680
OK.
So jumped off first of all, I

726
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,520
mean, you know all the
conspiracy theories the state

727
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,920
police were told, the Secret
Service was told here's the guy

728
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,880
on a roof and they didn't catch
the guy, right?

729
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,040
They didn't even address it till
afterwards.

730
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,280
Yeah, so.
That so like that.

731
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,040
That's that's beyond conspiracy
theory.

732
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,000
This is.
That's just.

733
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,920
Flat out, it's flat out wrong.
It's flat out wrong, Right?

734
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,160
It's flat out.
Wrong JFK.

735
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,440
We know who killed JFK 20 years
ago.

736
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,480
We knew 30 years ago, 40 years
ago, we knew he was messing

737
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,360
around with Maryland and Cuba
and Russia and also the mob.

738
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,040
It's it's lucky because everyone
and then they told him do not go

739
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,840
in an open motorcade, OK?
That's not conspiracy.

740
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,440
Everybody knew here the guy
sticking out.

741
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,480
Why didn't the Secret Service
comb that?

742
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,160
That's what I was So so so that.
That's.

743
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,400
Kindergarten stuff.
It's kindergarten stuff, right?

744
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,840
It's not, It's not.
So the question is.

745
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,200
He didn't when you have.
These enormous fuck ups.

746
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Excuse my language.
Yeah.

747
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,480
When you have these enormous
fuck ups and we're told that

748
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,600
we're crazy for seeing a blatant
and obvious.

749
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,560
They're not errors.
It's they, they the Secret

750
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,000
Service does not make those
errors.

751
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Sorry, they do not.
They don't, you know, that I was

752
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,880
told.
And again, this is all hearsay.

753
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,840
And I yeah, yeah, no, no way to
know this.

754
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:41,200
But I was told that on Trump's
detail where he he got shot in

755
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,440
the face, you know, with his
cheek, his detail was changed

756
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,800
the day before.
That was not his detail.

757
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,720
They changed it on it and.
Apparently it was televised for

758
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:56,680
the first time like.
I don't know about that.

759
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,360
But none of his rallies were
covered on CNN except for this

760
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,920
particular one.
I mean, even Charlie Kirk.

761
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,560
Let's go deeper.
I'm I'm agnostic about Charlie

762
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,360
Kirk.
He seemed to be a decent guy.

763
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:08,760
I.
Don't know.

764
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,840
I was also, I did not.
I was not a rah rah Charlie Kirk

765
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,560
guy.
You know, he, he's, he's

766
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,960
brilliant.
He was brilliant, no doubt about

767
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,760
that. 32 but 32 years old but
his.

768
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,160
Brain, he was brilliant.
He knew.

769
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,280
He knew stuff that I, I would
never know.

770
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,800
I mean, him and Ben Shapiro,
like him, love him, hate him, it

771
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,600
doesn't make a difference.
They're brilliant operators.

772
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,000
They understand things that I
could never understand.

773
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,000
But there's no suspects in that.
None.

774
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,080
Come on, you want to talk about
conspiracy theories all day

775
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,360
long?
Post 2000, I think that there's

776
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,800
almost nothing that happens.
Let's not plan.

777
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,680
That's what I that's what I feel
like.

778
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,880
You know what?
Listen to your 6th sense, right?

779
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,360
Listen to it.
You've read.

780
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,720
Read the book Blink.
I've stopped.

781
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,400
Yeah.
Malcolm Gladwell, right?

782
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:07,320
He's really boring, OK.
But you get the whole you get

783
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,920
all his books from the back
cover and then the other 200

784
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,880
pages is just making.
That point over and over and

785
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,680
over.
Just read the first 10 pages.

786
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,040
Well, in Blink, which I read, I
think the first 10 pages, I was

787
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,720
like, oh, that guy, this is so
boring, but he's so brilliant,

788
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:21,440
right?
He calls this thing thin

789
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,600
slicing.
Ever heard of it?

790
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,000
Thin slicing is you, you take
just the front of something,

791
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,840
right?
And you, you take that

792
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:34,240
immediate, immediate first
impression and go with it

793
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,800
because that's not your brain,
that's your mind, that's your

794
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,040
gut, that's your gut.
And it's telling you everything

795
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,320
you've learned in the last,
let's say, 30 years, even stuff

796
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,520
you don't even know.
You put lots of stuff in your

797
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,080
mouth when you were a baby,
right?

798
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,800
When you were an infant, when
you're a toddler, everything.

799
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,760
When you're in your mouth,
because the mouth feels, tastes

800
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,680
it.
It has height with dimensions.

801
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,440
You know your brain very
strongly, yeah.

802
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,720
And it connects to your brain
and you smell.

803
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,280
You never forget that.
Well, until you have dementia,

804
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,800
Alzheimer's, whatever.
But you.

805
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,640
And even then.
And by the way, you could.

806
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,880
Yeah, it could smell, could make
you cry immediately, right?

807
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,160
It could make you laugh.
It could.

808
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,760
So these things, your brain
retains everything.

809
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,400
And even in dementia, you don't
lose anything.

810
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,480
God created the brain that on a
whim.

811
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,000
It's it's the most complicated
piece of machinery that will

812
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,880
ever exist.
AI will never outdo the brain.

813
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:35,120
It's not possible.
You don't think so?

814
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,560
No, No.
There are more connections in

815
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,400
the brain than it's just it's
not possible now.

816
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,680
It could be faster in some
cases, but the brain is more

817
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,680
complex than any machine.
God will not be outdone.

818
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,840
I was going to say I'm not.
There's of of of all the

819
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,120
potential like of all the
changing realities.

820
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:04,240
For some reason AI is not as
interesting to me as like almost

821
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,160
anything else.
Like nuclear war, God forbid, is

822
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:13,240
far more scary to me than AI is.
You know, my son who's a techie,

823
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:17,000
he's, he's always saying this AI
thing is overrated.

824
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,840
They've had AI quote, UN quote
for a long time, this art of

825
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,640
intelligence.
And look, when Siri came out

826
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,120
years ago, that was AI, right?
Yeah, is everyone you used to

827
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,760
start texting on and I could
guess the next word is

828
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,600
completely off and you'd be like
that, that that's.

829
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,200
What?
Yeah, exactly.

830
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:32,880
Variation.
Yeah.

831
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,240
Yeah.
So what scares me about AI,

832
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,760
let's call it, and the same
thing that scares me about

833
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:47,720
social media is the is the
similar situation to what I

834
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:51,720
think it was Gobel's in World
War 2 Holocaust.

835
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,600
So if you tell a lie long enough
or becomes the truth, it becomes

836
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,000
truth, right?
So I've seen even conservative

837
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,040
and I don't want to say even,
but for your liberal listeners,

838
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,240
I've seen people who I thought
would be very, you know,

839
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:14,920
truthful, put out just lies on
the Internet and maybe it's

840
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,240
accidental, but it's just not
true.

841
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,440
I've researched some of the
stuff and and said, Hey, this is

842
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,560
completely bunk.
It's not true.

843
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,400
But if you tell enough people
and people the masses are

844
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,240
assets, you got problems.
So AI, hey, they could put you

845
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:37,120
and somebody else in a
compromising situation at

846
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,120
crystal clear imagery and post
it on every terminal in the

847
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,040
world that even though you've
never even.

848
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Considered that can't imagine a
world in which that's going to

849
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:54,120
happen in which I made by the
way, I guess yes, because it is

850
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,680
kind of the equivalent of quote
UN quote going viral to it

851
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,160
right, like what's like what
makes remember like stupid shit

852
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,160
like even like the Haktua girl
right, like this girl made an

853
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,120
inappropriate joke and like I
had one interview for like

854
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,720
Barstow or something stupid like
maybe Barstow got a hold of the

855
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:13,680
interview and like this girl who
was like a like middle like

856
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,360
Midwest girl from like Tennessee
made one inappropriate joke

857
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,600
online and the next day she woke
up and billions of people had

858
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,680
seen this video and she was
famous town representation

859
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,360
podcast managers.
People are bringing on to like

860
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,520
sport to to sports games and the
freaking Super Bowl and like

861
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,000
they're making references in
movies about her.

862
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,840
And then she got caught and then
some, some.

863
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,720
And then obviously you don't
know how to navigate these

864
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:41,960
waters.
You're just this girl, right?

865
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,440
And who's maybe she looks like
either a sorority girl or maybe

866
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,000
within 10 years of graduating
college.

867
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,080
I can't tell women's ages for my
life and.

868
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,160
That could get you in.
Trouble.

869
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,360
I know that's unhappy.
I'm married.

870
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,640
Your Honor, she looked well to
me.

871
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:12,120
I she so this girl has no idea
what she's never dreamed of what

872
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,640
this situation would be like.
And then she's thrown into it

873
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,720
and a million people are trying
to talk to her and then someone

874
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:20,760
convinces her to start like
there's like crypto coin, like a

875
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,720
hawk to a coin, right?
And and they do a massive pump

876
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:28,960
and dump and like a ton of
people lose a ton of money and

877
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,920
she walks off spectacularly rich
but incredibly hate it again

878
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,920
overnight.
And like all this happened

879
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,240
within the span, within let's
say six months.

880
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:43,120
Sounds like Yosef, he went from
the dregs in the bottom of the

881
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,120
prison.
To the top right.

882
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,960
Right.
Yeah, in a matter of wasn't that

883
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,560
long, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

884
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,560
And yeah, there's.
Random things, they're just.

885
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,280
They just like just.
So you went to the spotlight.

886
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,880
AI can be That's good point.
So can a terrorist attack in

887
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,400
Bondi In one minute you're a
shliak and the next minute

888
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,120
you're.
Yeah, you're, you're, you're,

889
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,600
you're all kid.
It's kid as a set.

890
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:10,280
Or yeah, yeah.
And it, it, it can and will

891
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,040
happen.
It will happen in, in, in almost

892
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:19,120
every Western country.
We have dropped the ball and not

893
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,880
so much dropped it, but
carefully.

894
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,080
No, we dropped it.
Yeah, we carefully lost it.

895
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,520
They they slipped.
Degrees of There's degrees of

896
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:30,960
clumsiness.
Exactly.

897
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,680
But when I say they, I mean,
there's a cabal of some kind

898
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,040
and, you know, there goes my
conspiracy theory.

899
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,840
So but yeah, there, there, there
is a force, a real force of evil

900
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,560
going on.
And yes, I'm, I'm sort of a

901
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,040
prepper.
I think that people don't have

902
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,320
enough water in their houses,
just plain tap water.

903
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,880
Fill up your old jugs with with
water.

904
00:50:55,240 --> 00:51:00,400
Fill up your your mind with the
Torah, fill up your day with

905
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,440
prayer.
Those are things that really are

906
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,400
going to get you through and
this prevent those things.

907
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,520
Sure, gold and silver and
ammunition, they're all good

908
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,280
things to have, but you cannot
prepare yourself for Haktua,

909
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,800
right?
You cannot.

910
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,080
There's there's no way to do
that.

911
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,360
A prayer is is one of the best
tools you can you can have in

912
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,600
your tool belt.
And patience.

913
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,720
Patience, yes.
Patience too, because the I

914
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:28,680
think the only difference
between that girl having

915
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:33,520
enormous amount of success and
crashing the way she did was how

916
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,880
ready, how long did it take for
you to get to where you are?

917
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,200
And Are you ready to get where
you are?

918
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,720
I right?
Yeah, you get rich too fast.

919
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,120
You usually end up, yeah,
they're in bankruptcy.

920
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:49,200
Or, or you end up being the
world's biggest schmuck.

921
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,600
I mean one or the other, you
know, I mean.

922
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,160
You got a couple of those.
You got a few, you got, you got

923
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,160
a few though around.
But I, yeah, I, I was talking,

924
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:04,520
you know, I, I when I turned 25,
I had a whole panic attack and I

925
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,160
wasn't married yet.
And Oh my, yeah, you're just

926
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,320
like an old mate or.
I was I was spinster and then my

927
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,480
shit together, you know, and I
was a huge who does well, right?

928
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,920
So I'm listening to my favorite
artist at the time, Bob Dylan

929
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,200
Bruce.
Springsteen, Bruce Springsteen.

930
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,480
These guys.
I listen to Bruce all the time.

931
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,720
I love Bruce.
He so he wrote.

932
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,720
He might not love me, no.
No, I'm sure he's all right with

933
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,480
you.
You seem like the kind of guy

934
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,160
that Springsteen would like.
I he read a song about you.

935
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,720
They're working at the police
Academy in the Midwest.

936
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,720
Born in the USA or or?
What's that one?

937
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,120
Harristown.
Harrisburg.

938
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,240
Oh, you're thinking of
Allentown.

939
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:44,200
Allentown.
That's Billy.

940
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,040
Joe, Billy Joe, OH.
That's Billy.

941
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,840
It is Billy Joel.
You're right.

942
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:50,000
You're right.
There is one, he wrote.

943
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,800
The downbound train.
Southbound, Yeah.

944
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,120
Down southbound train.
Down downbound train.

945
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,200
Great pump and iron to that
thing, Yeah.

946
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,760
And the other one is was.
Darlington County.

947
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,480
I had a job.
Yeah.

948
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,200
Love that song, man.
Love that song.

949
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,040
To play guitar by the Super easy
to play.

950
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,280
Guitar I used to play a little
bit of my neighbor and I, we,

951
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,640
we'd write songs mostly he'd
write them, I edited them, and

952
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,120
then we'd sing Here's the funny
part of the story.

953
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,360
We would sing and drink whiskey
until the late hours of the

954
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,720
night and he was good and I, I
was really bad, but he.

955
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:34,800
Played guitar.
He played guitar, I used to

956
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,160
strum a little bit, do some
background humming and edit his

957
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,080
songs.
And we had a lot of fun until he

958
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,840
decided we're so good.
We're going to get a not a

959
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,560
karaoke, but like a recording.
Sure, sure.

960
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,920
So he gets all this recording
stuff and we record a couple

961
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,880
things and it we're so good,
man.

962
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,480
And the drinks are pouring.
And then he said, you know,

963
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,520
there's this place we could do
Opie.

964
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,800
Exactly.
And they, they got us, they got

965
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,920
us booked for Saturday night,
whatever.

966
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,200
And we're in practice and, and
then the battalion of angels

967
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:14,040
came down and saved me and saved
me with four feet of snow that

968
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,000
night, and we couldn't play.
And subsequently, I'm driving to

969
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,840
New York, somewhere in the
middle of Pennsylvania.

970
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,640
I pop in the tape.
You know where the tape is.

971
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,440
Got these two little rings and
they spin around and they play

972
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,680
music.
I pop.

973
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,840
The tape in, I pop the tape in,
I'm all alone.

974
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,200
Cruising.
I'm going to listen to us.

975
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:38,320
You know, I hit eject, took the
tape, opened the window and

976
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,640
chucked it out of my car at X
miles an hour on the highway.

977
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:48,080
Sorry, environmentalist and I I
said, Oh my God, I've never

978
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,680
heard anything that bad.
Yeah, whiskey will do that, but

979
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:52,240
we.
You know what?

980
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,440
You think it was really that
bad?

981
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,560
Or you think?
I don't know.

982
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,920
I think they're all very
judgmental of each other, of

983
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,280
ourselves rather well.
That's good and bad.

984
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,520
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Some of us need to be a little

985
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,520
bit more judgmental.
Exactly.

986
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,000
But we we had fun and that's
really what counted.

987
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,600
We should never recorded and I I
remember the songs we played

988
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,800
you.
Should have though.

989
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,600
You know what I have like I have
students, I yell at them for

990
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,680
this and I, I, I, I, I do this
myself every now and then.

991
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,560
I try not to.
If something, even if

992
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,320
something's shitty creative that
you do, keep it because you

993
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,080
don't know where the where the
bones will pop up somewhere

994
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,360
else.
You know, like, keep them, but

995
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,080
sometimes when you're singing,
keep that in your mind instead

996
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,200
of on a tape.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

997
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,000
Somewhere.
Keep it.

998
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:38,120
You know, I keep all my old
poems and I wrote, I wrote a it

999
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,000
took me years, but I wrote a
children's book.

1000
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,440
Nice.
Get out of here.

1001
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,520
Really.
Yeah, it's I did it for my kids.

1002
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,440
It's called Kisses for the Baby.
Nice.

1003
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,120
After this, I'll, I'll, I'll
show you.

1004
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:53,240
But it was basically a poem that
turned into a storybook about

1005
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,040
how we as parents love our
children.

1006
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,280
And it's a storybook that is
designed for a parent to read to

1007
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,080
a toddler and instill in them
how much they love them.

1008
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,720
And I had it illustrated.
That's great.

1009
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:13,120
Who did it?
How'd you find someone to do it?

1010
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,360
Terrible.
It was on five or years ago.

1011
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,120
I never got through it and I've
been struggling to get it

1012
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,480
really, really done.
You can use AI now.

1013
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,800
I tried I I I did the $200
ChatGPT.

1014
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,160
And it didn't work.
No, it was.

1015
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,640
Sorry, I worked on that for a
while.

1016
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,680
I was just.
I see.

1017
00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:32,680
That's why I was not doing
anything.

1018
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,200
Yeah, I I've met some
illustrators recently at

1019
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,360
different art festivals and I
haven't really pulled the

1020
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,600
trigger on it yet.
But really, I showed it to my

1021
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,960
kids already and they, they've
got the gist.

1022
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,560
And now they're not babies
anymore.

1023
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:50,680
And when I get some more time,
if I get more time, I'll I'll

1024
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,480
probably put some more energy
into it.

1025
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,360
But it's an inspiring children's
book.

1026
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,880
I love that.
Yeah, it's good.

1027
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,400
It's the yin and the Yang, you
know, sometimes you got to be

1028
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,920
tough and sometimes you got to
be smooth and soft.

1029
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:12,360
Yeah, Yeah.
So tell me what you can you tell

1030
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,640
me what you do on the on the
local police force, or at least

1031
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,680
when you started, what you're up
to.

1032
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,680
I started low, started rural and
then we talk about.

1033
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,120
Steel.
What the heck, Steel?

1034
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,760
Yeah, one guy make a living so.
Yeah, but like, I don't even

1035
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,640
know what that means.
It was like someone says steel.

1036
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,400
It's like saying real estate.
It's like, I mean, do you own

1037
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,240
it?
Do you flip it?

1038
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,000
Do you build it?
Do you sell?

1039
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,120
Hey, wait, wait, what do you do?
You rent it out to people that

1040
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,080
live in it.
What do you do?

1041
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,720
There are besides there in New
York City, which has an old

1042
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,480
tradition of religious
tolerance.

1043
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,520
You could not work full time in
this country and keep shops.

1044
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:03,080
And in the early 90s that was
very much true.

1045
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:09,120
There were, I think 10 of us in
the country and I was one of the

1046
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,640
10.
I remember there was a, a gaming

1047
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,120
Atlantic City gaming guy and
there was a 2 New York guys or

1048
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,320
three New York guys at the time.
We've got the Jersey guy, Ohio

1049
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,400
guy.
It was very sparse and there was

1050
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,400
very little support for it.
So after being discriminated

1051
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,240
against a half a dozen times and
stuff that I could have sued for

1052
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,200
and I, I just didn't want to go
suing.

1053
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,320
It's just like take your lumps.
You don't belong here.

1054
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,560
I had a story with Disney like
that they didn't want me to do

1055
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,120
they wanted, they didn't want to
let me keep Shabbos on their

1056
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,320
internship.
Oh yeah, absolutely.

1057
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,960
It's completely illegal.
It is right?

1058
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,000
Yeah, so.
But you know what?

1059
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,120
After a while, it may not be
them, It may be the creator

1060
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,400
trying to tell you, hey, I'm I'm
going to take care of you.

1061
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,120
You take care of me.
You could do something

1062
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,040
different.
To a God, not Walt Disney.

1063
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,440
Right, Yeah, the the capital C
creator.

1064
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:18,360
So I, I, I found a niche for
myself in law enforcement that

1065
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,120
would put me in positions that I
could, you know, help people at

1066
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,000
state, local, federal levels.
And I really assure there's ego

1067
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,320
involved.
You ask a cop, why did you

1068
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,720
become a cop?
And he doesn't say anything

1069
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,760
about ego.
He's lying.

1070
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,400
He or she nowadays there's,
there's absolutely ego.

1071
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,640
I don't have a lot of it myself.
I, I really like the, the thrill

1072
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,080
of helping people and it's even
better when they don't know

1073
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,720
you're helping them because if
you do things behind the scenes

1074
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,200
and I like, I like behind the
curtain much better.

1075
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,240
It's better for me.
I'm not a spotlight kind of guy,

1076
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:57,360
but when you do these things,
like we said before, nobody says

1077
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,920
Attaboy.
There's some internal high you

1078
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,960
get, you feel like you've done
something and there's things

1079
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,720
that I worked on.
I, I can't, I can't talk about

1080
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,800
it now.
I couldn't talk about it then.

1081
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,000
It scared the living daylights
out of me when I was doing it.

1082
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:17,680
I, I was copped in a rock and a
hard place several times, but

1083
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,360
going back.
So I started that and then I had

1084
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,840
to make some money along the
way.

1085
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,680
So I had to get like the
civilian job as well because I

1086
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,600
couldn't work full time were.
You still on the books as a cop?

1087
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that you were just a cop

1088
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,840
that worked part time as a cop
and then had this other job.

1089
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,680
Yeah, OK.
And, and I'd like doing a lot of

1090
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,880
things.
So I had affiliations with

1091
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:44,520
different organizations and
because I was working as in law

1092
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:50,840
enforcement, I was able to get
into other areas or be invited

1093
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:56,880
into other areas that were more
influential and more helpful.

1094
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,640
Right.
So, but you have to feed your

1095
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,040
family and you have to feed
yourself.

1096
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:10,120
So I, I was, I, I got an MBA,
political science undergrad.

1097
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,800
Eventually I'll skip a lot of
stuff, but do you?

1098
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,720
Think MBA was worth it?
MBA, I hear, is most useful for

1099
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,800
when you're trying to do a
career change and you need to

1100
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,440
network and meet new people to
get a new job.

1101
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,040
It's tough.
I I2 of my kids I I, I really

1102
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,600
told them to get MBAs and maybe
I was right, maybe I was wrong.

1103
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,880
We'll see because they're young
still, but.

1104
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,520
I think I told them not to do it
the first week I met them.

1105
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,040
I think that's like, why are you
getting an MBA but you.

1106
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,320
Never know.
So it helped me immediately my

1107
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,320
MBA paid itself off.
You had a career.

1108
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,520
Before it, in the first year, it
paid itself off.

1109
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,320
I know I was paid 30% higher
than the next guy because I had

1110
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,240
that MBA.
So when I was in the corporate

1111
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,080
world, it worked.
And then the steel business kind

1112
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,800
of was like, there's no
accidents in the world.

1113
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,680
But I was friendly with this guy
who sold steel, had a sort of a

1114
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,960
small steel company.
And on the weekends I used to

1115
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,000
talk to him and he said he
wanted to get back into it.

1116
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:20,240
So I started to put all the
numbers into Excel and then try

1117
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:25,240
to analyze his business.
And next thing you know, bought

1118
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,080
a building what got some
vendors, got some customers.

1119
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,040
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Yeah, I want to know this

1120
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,480
process because that's you just
jumped in one sentence over what

1121
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,800
takes people a lifetime to do so
it.

1122
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,320
Was not it was.
It was less than a year.

1123
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,080
You have a business, you have
numbers right now, right?

1124
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,640
So you have you have something
you can show investors or

1125
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,560
something you could show a bait
to get money to get a building.

1126
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,160
How do you how do you go about
getting a building at that point

1127
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,120
in in?
So I mean you it really it's

1128
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,640
there's no banks involved when
you're starting a business.

1129
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,920
You could do the SBA thing.
I mean, they're probably I'm not

1130
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,120
so smart.
I'm not a, I'm a average

1131
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:13,080
intelligence, but I'm, I've got,
I'm a little bit cunning and I

1132
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:23,360
can get out of situations.
So for me it was a challenge and

1133
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,680
I accepted the channel.
Like how to navigate it?

1134
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,320
Yeah, it was just, it was I
wonder.

1135
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,280
If I could figure out how to
navigate doing this.

1136
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,800
No, it was fun for me and I, I
started to put things in Excel

1137
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,400
and say, hey, you buy it for
this, you sell it for this.

1138
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,360
There's the profit.
Here are your expenses.

1139
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,480
Here's your overhead.
This is what we need.

1140
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,880
You're you're ballparking at
that point because you didn't

1141
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,240
know what these are going.
To be Yeah, well, we basically

1142
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,360
did some research and and
figured it out.

1143
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,400
Now the building I bought a
ratty building in the middle of

1144
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:58,400
a very bad neighborhood, and it
was a it was a fantastic deal

1145
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:06,760
through my contacts who helped
me look, I I lived in Chicago

1146
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,040
for a while.
Nice.

1147
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:13,800
I was fortunate enough to
befriend a billionaire there who

1148
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,960
after six months of courting him
and constantly nagging him

1149
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,480
because I'm like a dog with a
bone, I just don't let it go.

1150
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,640
He finally said, OK, I'll give
you the startup money.

1151
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,720
And that's really where it is.
It's the startup money.

1152
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,720
No bank is going to take your
dream.

1153
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,720
So you got to find the hookup.
Yeah, I found the hookup and.

1154
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:34,920
There was any Blues while you
were in Chicago?

1155
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,520
The right jazz is good.
I see.

1156
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,400
You know what I'm saying?
You have to have the right jazz.

1157
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,200
But I.
I love the Blues, you know, The

1158
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:51,960
Blues gets me to my like so.
You, you, you can't be white and

1159
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,880
play.
You have to.

1160
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,680
Be No, I haven't.
I just participate in the blue I

1161
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,640
I I I passively.
I passively appreciate music.

1162
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,640
I was not.
Meant to be, absolutely.

1163
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,440
I spend some time in New in New
Orleans.

1164
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,440
I don't remember a lot of it.
But New Orleans is cool.

1165
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,120
Yeah, I've been there.
I was there for.

1166
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,640
I was there for.
I went on a road trip from Miami

1167
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,080
to Austin.
Oh.

1168
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,080
And stopped in New Orleans for
the weekend.

1169
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:21,160
We got a sick Airbnb for dirt
cheap just a couple of blocks

1170
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,360
away from we didn't want.
I didn't want to hang out.

1171
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,120
When I go to these places, I
don't hang out by the

1172
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,480
deal.
Yeah, so I went to these big

1173
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,480
steel companies who in America,
Yeah.

1174
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,880
And I took their, their dreck,
their their rejects.

1175
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:01,560
And OK, the rejects, you have to
sort them out.

1176
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,840
Sure.
You got to cut off the bad ends.

1177
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,600
So we I partnered up, my first
customer was a shearing

1178
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,040
operator.
He rented out part of the

1179
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,920
building and he used to shear up
the the big sheets into better,

1180
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,680
nicer sheets.
And then that we built on that

1181
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,320
we used to start buying.
Nice pennies, dollar, you're

1182
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,640
just flipping it for quarters of
the.

1183
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,840
Dollar, no, the pennies and then
flipping it for pennies.

1184
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,480
But a penny for ��45,000 is yeah,
450 bucks.

1185
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,840
Every truck that goes out, it's
450 bucks.

1186
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,160
Now we didn't make a penny.
We usually made more than a

1187
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,040
penny, but when you're in the
penny business and you're

1188
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,160
dealing with weight, it makes a
difference.

1189
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:46,760
So if you make $0.10 on a paper
clip, that's a lot of money.

1190
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:53,640
Yeah, right. $0.10 on 45,000 lbs
is 400 and 4500 bucks right?

1191
01:06:55,160 --> 01:07:00,280
So it progressed into that and
God has been good to me.

1192
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,320
That's cool.
There's ups and downs in the

1193
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,640
steel business.
Don't get me wrong, there are

1194
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,160
some very low troughs I bet some
very high.

1195
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:14,360
Peaks my dad has been in a
interesting world refurbished

1196
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,800
medical equipment.
I, I thought I'm into in

1197
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,240
Washington and the way he got
started was he was working for,

1198
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,040
he was a salesman for a
pharmaceutical company, which I

1199
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,320
only now realize means he
probably contributed a lot of

1200
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:31,480
people's addictions or whatever
and he.

1201
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,720
And he helped a lot of people.
He, I'm sure he helped a ton of

1202
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,800
people and my dad's a great guy.
Love my dad.

1203
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,160
And you met him, right?
I did.

1204
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,720
I like him a lot.
We're car guys.

1205
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,440
He's great.
He's a living personification of

1206
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,320
tiny Bahama, I think.
I like him.

1207
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,720
He's a diesel Mercedes kind of
guy and.

1208
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,440
He is.
There's one in the driveway

1209
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:57,920
right now and you have and so he
was and then they got what's

1210
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,360
called a sterilizer in.
And this thing is dentists use

1211
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,800
it all very frequently cleans
the boiling hot.

1212
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:05,960
It's basically.
Autoclave.

1213
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,240
Yeah, an autoclave machine.
Yeah.

1214
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,840
And the guy that he bought it
from left the sticker on it.

1215
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,080
The guy's name is Dom.
Still, we still, I still talk to

1216
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,600
him every now and then.
Great dude.

1217
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,319
And he, my dad called him.
He was.

1218
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:19,160
How much is this?
He goes, You a dealer?

1219
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,160
He's like, yeah, he goes, I
don't know, 1000 bucks.

1220
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,920
And dad found out that the
company he was working for paid

1221
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,520
3500 bucks for it or whatever it
is.

1222
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,279
He's like, I'm in the I'm in the
wrong business.

1223
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:29,600
He kept keeps in touch with
them.

1224
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,359
And there are guys now that I
know that are we call them like

1225
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:34,479
hospital rats.
Who are they?

1226
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,040
Like hospitals are constantly
trading out or buying new

1227
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,319
equipment, and they're just
getting rid of literally just

1228
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:42,479
giving away the old equipment.
Who does he sell them to?

1229
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,920
Private practices and
university.

1230
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:51,560
Well, so he started flipping
them and then he got a couple of

1231
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,840
texts and a couple people to
refurbish the equipment.

1232
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,720
So we started doing it in house.
But at this point he knows

1233
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,080
enough people that he could like
anyone could give them anything.

1234
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,000
He just sent them to repair.
And you have a perfectly

1235
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,880
functioning machine, you know,
but the whole premise of what

1236
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,359
your business was, which was
finding like scraps that weren't

1237
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,439
as that the, that the big
manufacturers didn't want.

1238
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,800
That's the whole premise of this
business, which is like almost

1239
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,600
like a second hand market.
The a brand new Ultron could be

1240
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,880
100 grand.
I sell my My average Ultra that

1241
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,319
I sell is 10. 15 grand.
So when I got into it, I did not

1242
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:32,840
know how competitive it was.
I thought I was reinventing the

1243
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,000
wheel.
And really there are 1,000,000

1244
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,600
wheels out there, just one of
them rolling down the street,

1245
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,279
kind of like an empty truck
wheel, just with no home.

1246
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,200
So, but it's still you could,
you could make money selling

1247
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,240
used rags and lose money selling
Rolls Royces, right?

1248
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,800
It's really, let's call it luck.
But we know what it is.

1249
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:59,160
It's it's God and it it puts
food on the table.

1250
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,560
And his toddlers and hard work.
You know, the harder I work, the

1251
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,320
luckier I get.
Yeah, that's true.

1252
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,800
That's true.
A schooler for Parnassus is hard

1253
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,240
work.
Exactly.

1254
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:15,200
So that's that's been good to me
and it it beats doing nothing

1255
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,560
So, so.
When you can't talk about what

1256
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,800
you can't talk about, is it
because it's classified, or it's

1257
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,600
because you're not ready to talk
about it?

1258
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,840
Or both?
Or you're afraid you're in

1259
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,480
trouble.
Yes.

1260
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,240
To all three.
Yes, absolutely.

1261
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,080
Absolutely.
And when do things become

1262
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,040
declassified or do you know if
it became declassified?

1263
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,880
A lot of people said tell me
that they think they their

1264
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,440
commissions, they knew or things
that they've done, they didn't

1265
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:44,040
always declassify.
So they just happened to be like

1266
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,440
Googling something else and the
thing came up and they're like,

1267
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:47,960
oh, I guess I could talk about
this now.

1268
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,040
That's that is.
Very likely that is that's

1269
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,240
actually a great scenario.
It's possible.

1270
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:59,840
It's possible it's also possible
that that the justice system in

1271
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:04,640
this country, as we know has a
tendency to go after people who.

1272
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,560
Yeah, maybe not guilty.
Yeah.

1273
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,680
So in order to.
No longer presumed innocent.

1274
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,520
Yeah, in order to not get hit
you, it's good not to have a

1275
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,040
target on your back.
And if you're quiet and

1276
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,920
invisible, it's much harder to
hit you.

1277
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:25,080
So it's it's good to be humble.
When you're humble, the the

1278
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:26,440
Sutton doesn't know you're
there.

1279
01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:27,560
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
He kind.

1280
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,520
Of like, that's why election
heart is so hard because like

1281
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,800
Sutton says, oh, you're, you're,
you're so good.

1282
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:33,920
You're speaking about the next
guy.

1283
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,920
Let me look at you.
IRS take a look at his books.

1284
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,640
Oh, no, don't look my books.
My books are really bad.

1285
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,040
So just, you know, just.
It, it, it wouldn't even be fun

1286
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,240
to talk about.
OK.

1287
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,360
It would be, it would be scary
for me.

1288
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,320
It'd just be just scary.
I, I, I remember when I was

1289
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,760
doing some of the things, I was
just, I was scared all the time

1290
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:01,720
and I knew I had to do those
things, but it was just what if,

1291
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,800
what if, what if?
And I, I, I really couldn't

1292
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,720
confide in anybody.
Even my friend in Maggie Valley

1293
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,480
who, who was involved to me with
Bob.

1294
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:17,280
Yeah, Bob, there's a lot of
Bob's and I just couldn't like

1295
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,600
like you just you just got to go
on with life.

1296
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,040
I could talk in in riddles, but
if I say things that are it's

1297
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:26,920
not worth it.
It's not worth it.

1298
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,880
Yeah.
I've had a, I've had a political

1299
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,000
question.
Oh yeah, absolutely.

1300
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,920
How, on a scale from one to 10,
how happy are you with Trump's

1301
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,440
first year?
Well, I'll tell you I.

1302
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,200
'Cause I'm not like a three.
I do not.

1303
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:49,880
And I was really hopeful.
I do not approve of Trump and

1304
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:56,040
let me tell you that I really
disapprove of Biden and Obama.

1305
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,480
He's next level.
I think Obama was incredibly

1306
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:03,960
intelligent, probably the most
influential president possibly

1307
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,320
we've ever had.
I think I I think he he out

1308
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,960
shines.
George Washington.

1309
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,480
Yeah, I don't.
Think as as I go, cultural.

1310
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:19,440
He made some serious change.
We don't even feel the change,

1311
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,120
really.
Yes, I mean we feel it, but not.

1312
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,520
All in what?
In what capacity?

1313
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,800
Well, do you pay health
insurance?

1314
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,120
Yeah.
So it's it's.

1315
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:29,360
It's ridiculous.
It's.

1316
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,040
Insane.
And I don't want to pay it.

1317
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,440
It's four.
If I didn't have a wife that was

1318
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,560
giving birth every other year
and I didn't have a a three-year

1319
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,960
old and a six month old, I would
not have health insurance.

1320
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,520
Yeah, absolutely.
Exactly.

1321
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,640
And most young people who were
supposed to sort of leveled up

1322
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,200
the the whole health insurance
playing field.

1323
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,520
You get the sick people, you get
the healthy people, you level it

1324
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,240
out.
It's it's a bunch of bunk.

1325
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,680
It's conspiracy, all of it.
That's my opinion.

1326
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,880
I have no facts other than my
wallet.

1327
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,000
I know what I pay for health
insurance, and it's incredibly

1328
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:04,600
high.
Yeah.

1329
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,240
So when you ask me politically
if I like Trump.

1330
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,960
OK, happy with his first year,
'cause I don't care what you

1331
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,400
think, whether you 'cause you
could like him with this.

1332
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,240
Like I liked him until I until I
didn't like him.

1333
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:21,080
Well, I think his
accomplishments are understated.

1334
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,480
What do you he accomplished?
So the border accomplishment is

1335
01:14:23,480 --> 01:14:27,200
enormous for sure.
You know what?

1336
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,560
That's what he promised, that's
Evan wanted, and he did it.

1337
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,360
The boat.
Was leaking it, it, it's still,

1338
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,960
it's listing terribly.
We don't even know it.

1339
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,520
We're so drunk.
We're on the deck and they're

1340
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,680
playing the orchestra right.
And like the Titanic, don't

1341
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,800
worry, we're unsinkable.
We are not unsinkable.

1342
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:48,840
We're going down very fast.
So they didn't just let 20

1343
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,040
million illegals in.
They didn't just say come on

1344
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,320
over.
It was 20.

1345
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,600
I thought it was closer to 10.
Five her 20.

1346
01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:00,960
OK, so call 15I.
Have a relative that worked on

1347
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:09,600
the border a couple years ago
for quite some time and she was

1348
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:15,880
an EMT that did triage on
undocumented people.

1349
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,720
That's cool.
So this is really first hand

1350
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:27,040
from her and she is not a Trump
fan, She's not a a right wing,

1351
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,920
she's not progressively liberal,
but.

1352
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,280
Sure, she's not What?
What?

1353
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,480
Was going on and what was going
on is they're letting these

1354
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:39,600
people in the war patrol would
round them up, triage them and

1355
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:45,320
then send them on buses free of
charge with court dates quote UN

1356
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:50,800
quote 10 years in the future to
figure out their status.

1357
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:57,560
That's not an accident.
That is an intentional treason

1358
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,320
based act.
There's a lot of treason that

1359
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,200
happened, but you know what?
There's a good amount.

1360
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,080
What do you think of this
freaking war in Venezuela?

1361
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:15,160
We did ground strikes today.
That's an ongoing investigation.

1362
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:15,960
I'm.
Not you know what I read.

1363
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,360
That's right, I read, I'm
reading.

1364
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:23,480
I, I did a podcast with a guy
named John Perkins and this guy

1365
01:16:23,480 --> 01:16:24,920
is what's called an economic
hitman.

1366
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:31,560
And this guy in started in the
80s with Panama.

1367
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,680
I don't.
Think it was Venezuela, it was

1368
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,000
Panama was another country and
then it was Saudi Arabia.

1369
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:46,000
And and this and this guy was he
calls it, he calls what people

1370
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,960
call the deep state, a
corporatocracy, which is

1371
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,360
essentially a combination of
banks, corporations and

1372
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,560
government.
And all of them have plausible

1373
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,960
deniability with one another.
As in you have you have a

1374
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,680
problem.
Well, the government ordered

1375
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,720
Bear Stearns to do it with Iran
Contra.

1376
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,400
So we're not going to you know,
so the government has nothing to

1377
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,560
say about it and Bear Stearns
doesn't exist anymore.

1378
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,760
I'm so sorry there's no one you
could talk to you about it, you

1379
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,640
know, like.
That's one level.

1380
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:18,040
And then there's the Tucker
Qatarlson level, where Qatar

1381
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:22,000
just straight out buys out our
universities, buys out our

1382
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,360
right.
I had a hard time with the

1383
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,880
Tucker theory about about that.
You know, they're doing a great

1384
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,400
job with that.
Sounds like Trump, but they're

1385
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,600
doing a great job.
They've gotten the left against

1386
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,720
Israel and the Jews.
They got the right against them

1387
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,160
and.
Now they got the right against

1388
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:37,800
them.
So you're going to tell me, but

1389
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,640
it was you.
But you might want to look into

1390
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,720
that.
I will tell me where I can look

1391
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,720
into it because I'll tell you
what I think after you tell me

1392
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:46,320
where to look.
Into it.

1393
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:47,880
There's this thing called the
dark web.

1394
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,520
I'm not sure how to get there,
but, you know, maybe it's

1395
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,000
underneath the ground somewhere.
I don't know.

1396
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:57,160
You open up the dark.
I have heard that Qatar funded

1397
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,360
his show to the tune of many
millions.

1398
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,120
He was already wealthy.
To begin with.

1399
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:05,520
But I think that you, of course
you.

1400
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,680
Are you came from a heavy?
I think the Qatar puts wealth in

1401
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,440
a different language bracket.
It's not even it's not even

1402
01:18:12,440 --> 01:18:14,160
called wealth.
If you're the English teacher,

1403
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,760
it's something else.
It's stupid rich.

1404
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:21,400
There's difference in wealth.
I've got 6 cars and stupid rich.

1405
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,440
I have six islands.
Come on.

1406
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,640
You know, but.
You you know something's going

1407
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:34,400
wrong when he the right wing
leader, is turning when you see

1408
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,200
Candace the.
Right wing Candace is.

1409
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:42,160
Turning when you see when you
see a proponent of Israel and

1410
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,720
the true right wing who couldn't
be turned.

1411
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:46,800
Who's that?
Charlie Kirk.

1412
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,520
Dead right.
So you put all the pieces

1413
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,360
together.
You want me to be political?

1414
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:53,360
This is what I see, No?
No, no.

1415
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,640
I want you to otherwise here
this is, this is, this is.

1416
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,640
I think.
I think Trump with a roll of

1417
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,880
duct tape would be a dictator.
Right.

1418
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,840
I think that people would love
him so much because his actions

1419
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:09,160
speak louder than his his non
educated words.

1420
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:14,040
He sounds like like an idiot.
I mean he doesn't sound

1421
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,760
educated.
Now there are friends of he's

1422
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,400
just, he's one of the guys, the
president of the United States

1423
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,680
of America.
He knows, oh, he knows he's

1424
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,680
playing chess while everybody's
playing checkers, right?

1425
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,120
So Venezuela is not about the
drugs.

1426
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,120
It's not oil.
It's never been about the drugs.

1427
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,240
It's always about oil.
It's about something.

1428
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,480
And Marco Rubio is not having it
either.

1429
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:40,440
Rubio's A tricky guy.
He's not.

1430
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,560
I don't get him either.
By the way, he's smart.

1431
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,680
He's he's smart enough that you
don't get him.

1432
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,840
That's how smart.
He is, exactly, And he's got

1433
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,920
this so pleasant of a voice and
he talks nicely and he's a nice

1434
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,240
looking, smooth guy, right?
But he knows what's going.

1435
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:59,600
On OK, can I can Ioffer
potentially what I think and you

1436
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,240
can tell me what you think of
this my alternative response

1437
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:03,920
because.
I have a It's not about UFOs

1438
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,200
implanting things with people's
head.

1439
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:05,920
Is it?
No, it's not.

1440
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:12,480
I think that here's what I
here's my, here's my what I

1441
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:16,920
think happened or at least a big
component of what happened to

1442
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,800
America, to the right at least
that led to this.

1443
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:24,160
We can wrap up soon, if you
want, is America.

1444
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,160
I'm having so much.
Fun we spent, we spent 20.

1445
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:33,320
We spent, I mean, really 70
years in almost in constant war,

1446
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,600
right?
We do.

1447
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:40,360
We do know that war debilitates
economies like it.

1448
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,160
Halliburton would argue with
you.

1449
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,240
Well, Halliburton and so the
reason why they would argue with

1450
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,320
me is because the way that you
fund a war is you basically take

1451
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:55,520
a check from the taxpayers and
you give it to Halliburton and

1452
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,080
then Halliburton gives that
gives their weapons that the

1453
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,200
taxpayers gave them to whoever
America's choosing to assist or

1454
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,320
not at that point, right?
Or whatever war we're

1455
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,560
participating in or not, right?
So, correct.

1456
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,320
So right now, the American
people have been footing the

1457
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:16,240
bill for the better part of 75
years of wars, right?

1458
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:20,680
One way or the other, Korea,
Vietnam, since World War 2.

1459
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,080
These are incredible, by the
way.

1460
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:27,000
I'm going to try.
Them if Afghanistan, Iraq, you

1461
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,240
know, then there's a whole
Central America in the 90s,

1462
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,320
which is pretty which is kept
pretty quiet for the most part I

1463
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:38,200
think for my understanding.
And the point is that, and then

1464
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,200
in the meantime, we have
enormous issues in America with

1465
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:46,000
fentanyl, with our vets, with
economic, I wouldn't even call

1466
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,480
it instability, but you have an
enormous amount of debt in every

1467
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:52,200
kind of way.
You have car debt, you have

1468
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,320
mortgage debt, you have student
loan debt.

1469
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,400
You have, you have, you have,
you have health, you have

1470
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,960
health, you have health bills
or, you know, pharmaceutical

1471
01:21:59,960 --> 01:22:02,320
payments or huge reason why
people are behind in their

1472
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,680
bills.
You know, you have credit card

1473
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,880
buy now, pay later debt, right?
Like our entire country is built

1474
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,080
on debt.
And I really do believe that the

1475
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:15,360
root of a lot of war is when you
realize that you don't have

1476
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,960
enough, you want what other
people have, right?

1477
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,800
I think that a lot of what
conflict is, is when they're

1478
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,400
like when, when, when the money
is coming in, everyone gets

1479
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,040
along great.
And then when someone turns off

1480
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,320
the tap, everyone starts
fighting about who gets whatever

1481
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:31,960
waters left.
And I think that we're doing so

1482
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,200
poorly now for so many years in
a row that we're and, and

1483
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,040
there's so many issues in
America, the education system,

1484
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:43,040
you know, there, there's just so
many problems that exist.

1485
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:47,840
And then you're like, and why
are we there or there or there

1486
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,600
now?
Like, why does it make any sense

1487
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,880
when our, when you know, when,
when, when we're suffering right

1488
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:58,200
now, when nurses that, you know,
pay 150 two, $100,000 to go to

1489
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:02,400
NYU for two years to get the
nursing degree, you know, will

1490
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,840
never be able to buy their
apartment in Manhattan, will

1491
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,720
never be able to buy a house in
Westchester or or even in

1492
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,040
Teaneck, NJ.
Like they won't be able to put a

1493
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,960
down payment down because they,
they, they're drowning in the

1494
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:18,200
cost of excess spend.
And just like a sick.

1495
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,080
And there's American empire,
which continues to expand.

1496
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,080
And then there's America, the
homeland that supports the

1497
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,520
empire.
And I think that the homeland is

1498
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,880
just suffering right now.
Well, you're in water so deep

1499
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,240
you'd be some sort of nuclear
powered submarine to get there

1500
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,360
and.
Or AI robotics generation.

1501
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,360
Well, that's just.
That's what we're counting on, I

1502
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:40,320
think.
That's a lie.

1503
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,560
But you think so?
I think that you're, you're,

1504
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,240
you're dealing in such world
politics.

1505
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,360
I'm not the right guy to answer
those questions.

1506
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,240
Like I said before, I'm not so
smart.

1507
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,160
It's not the world.
I think it's world politics.

1508
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,280
It's not when we go to war.
It's not because New Jersey

1509
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,120
needs a new air conditioning
system.

1510
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:00,640
No Of.
Course, because it's because

1511
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,200
there's trillions.
Of dollars to be made wherever

1512
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,320
we go.
Or there's something way beyond

1513
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:09,440
our knowledge going on.
And that's happens a lot.

1514
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:13,800
We're not friends with Israel
because Israel is.

1515
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:18,120
It makes great falafel.
We're friends with Israel

1516
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:21,240
because it's a strategic play.
It's important to us.

1517
01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:24,880
We have an air base in Qatar
because it's strategic for us.

1518
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,960
Now why Qatar has an air base in
America, that is a totally

1519
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:28,640
different story.
How?

1520
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,960
About all the Chinese owned
land, you know our military

1521
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:35,520
bases.
So, you know, I had all these

1522
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,960
questions and more and I
decided, well, I can't answer

1523
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,360
them.
And I don't like being in the

1524
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:46,000
sidelines so much and doing
nothing because I preach to

1525
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,840
everybody, do something, do
something.

1526
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,200
Well, I ran for City Council.
No way.

1527
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:57,480
Yeah, in a small but affluent
community, I got, I got pretty

1528
01:24:57,480 --> 01:24:58,920
close.
I was 300 votes shy.

1529
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:00,880
Oh, man.
Which is great.

1530
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,280
You know you could.
Have you could have rigged that?

1531
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,200
I could have rigged that.
No, I'm not the right political

1532
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,960
affiliation to rig it.
I I ran really hard.

1533
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,560
I put my all into it and people
said I did well.

1534
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,120
Which is great.
Yeah, I didn't know that.

1535
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:20,720
How long ago was this?
2020 So 2022 23.

1536
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,000
Was that fun?
What was that like?

1537
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,880
I couldn't want to do that.
No, it was not.

1538
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:24,920
Fun.
No, I shouldn't do it.

1539
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,320
Oh, you could do it, but I
don't.

1540
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,480
Want to do it but.
I don't even, I didn't even want

1541
01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:35,000
the job, but I wanted to to, to
get some, some some semblance of

1542
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,560
normalcy.
I mean, this, this suburb that I

1543
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:43,440
live in was spending so much
money on ridiculous things and

1544
01:25:43,440 --> 01:25:47,520
they had gotten so far left with
their policies.

1545
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,560
I, I, I just stood, stood up and
I just said, we're going to make

1546
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,760
a stand.
Now there are other people who

1547
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,120
helped me and, and they're, and
they're also like minded.

1548
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,280
And I didn't win.
And thank God I didn't win

1549
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,520
because I, I just don't want the
job at all.

1550
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,320
But I, I did push as hard as I
could to get there.

1551
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:12,280
And I think people should be
somewhat politically attached,

1552
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:17,440
but understand that the rallies
don't mean much.

1553
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:22,640
Our enemies can rally 10 times
what we can.

1554
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:27,480
Our little rallies, as peaceful
as they are, they don't really

1555
01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:30,560
mean much.
And I, I hate to sound all

1556
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:35,120
yeshivish and stuff, but you
want to rally, go to the Bishop

1557
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,720
Meddersh, rally 10 guys together
and go learn.

1558
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,120
Because the only thing that's
going to help you in the coming

1559
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:46,840
years, and there will be, there
will be something.

1560
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,000
Chaos.
Something, the only thing that's

1561
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,240
going to help you is the Lord
above and get close to the Lord

1562
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,240
through whatever means
necessary, through whatever you

1563
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:59,400
can do, whether it's helping
somebody quietly, he likes quiet

1564
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:05,640
and, and, and not talking about
it or praying better or being

1565
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,400
better to your children, to your
spouse, whatever it is.

1566
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,320
And also studless, you know,
just, yeah, get some water in

1567
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,440
the in the car, in the car, in
the basement.

1568
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,040
Get some gold.
I mean, gold's ridiculous.

1569
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:24,360
I don't even know.
I I gold is at $4500 an ounce.

1570
01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:29,440
I know that shows how how how
how freaking close we are to the

1571
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:32,320
edge is what it feels like.
But what you see also is that

1572
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,280
the stock market.
Is well, I.

1573
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,440
Bounding up now golden stock
market should be inversely

1574
01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:39,280
proportionate.
Should.

1575
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,680
Be right every time in the
world.

1576
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,360
Well, almost every time.
They're inversely proportionate.

1577
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,400
Yeah.
If people are happy, they don't

1578
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,040
buy gold.
Yeah, they buy gold.

1579
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,320
They buy ammunition.
Yeah.

1580
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,520
Because they're not happy.
Yeah, there's a, there's a, a

1581
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:58,160
police gun store, you know, a
uniform store, whatever locally

1582
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,120
from where I live.
And years ago, they had a

1583
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,360
salesman of the year, a big
picture of a salesman of the

1584
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,080
year.
Do you know who the salesman

1585
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:09,440
was?
Yes.

1586
01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:10,360
President.
Yeah.

1587
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,480
Obama.
Obama sold more guns than

1588
01:28:13,480 --> 01:28:15,480
anybody, right, Because people
were afraid.

1589
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,320
They literally were afraid.
Now, whether he won that

1590
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,520
political event, the presidency
legally, not legally, he was

1591
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,120
president, right, for eight
years, and people were afraid.

1592
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,480
They bought more guns and
ammunition than ever.

1593
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,200
And then COVID hit.
That didn't help anything.

1594
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,560
Everybody's got to buy a gun.
Yeah, well, people don't buy

1595
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,680
guns when they're buying stock.
Yeah, they're either buying

1596
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,920
stock or they're buying guns.
A lot of who I know are buying

1597
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,040
both.
A lot of who I know are doing

1598
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,360
both because you know what?
You also we don't know where to

1599
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,120
put our money.
Like if you have too much money?

1600
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,720
No, no.
But you also know how to be

1601
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,440
responsible.
Like you don't have enough to

1602
01:28:55,440 --> 01:29:00,280
put into a house, but you can't.
It's stupid to leave $1000 or

1603
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,480
$5000 sitting in a checking
account.

1604
01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:05,840
Because it's now worth 70% of
what it's worth when you put it

1605
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:06,280
in there.
Yeah.

1606
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,320
That's what I'm saying.
So, so people are like, you know

1607
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,960
what, I can't do anything but
put it in the stock market.

1608
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,560
I'm not making enough money to
put it into something like real

1609
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,600
estate.
But you know, I can't just, I

1610
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,640
can't afford to sit, to sit and
live, to leave it sitting there

1611
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,520
for again, losing 1020% over
year over year.

1612
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:26,840
Soduringthe.com bubble When dot
coms made social media and

1613
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:33,680
trading viable for the everyday
person, it changed The stock

1614
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,320
market.
Used to be if you knew a

1615
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,960
stockbroker and you had to have
a certain amount of money to

1616
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,560
even talk to one, right?
They're not going to talk to you

1617
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:45,400
for Robin Hood $2.00, right?
What was it There was a Liar's

1618
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,560
Poker Was the book about that I.
Don't remember.

1619
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:49,520
You're the guy that wrote The
Big Short.

1620
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:51,920
Oh yeah, I know the Big Short,
but yeah.

1621
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,960
OK, anyway.
So it changed the way the stock

1622
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,440
market works.
Now it's again, it's not

1623
01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:01,480
reality, it's social media.
It is by this that's why Elon

1624
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:04,200
gets fined when he tweets about
Tesla right?

1625
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,080
Because it's nothing to do.
With the company Tesla, Elon

1626
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,440
Musk is a genius.
He may not be a sociable person,

1627
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,680
but he is a genius.
I think you may be the most

1628
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:16,800
relevant.
I think you may be the most

1629
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,440
important human.
I mean by the time by the time

1630
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:26,600
he dies to maybe have lived.
Very possible at his his trucks

1631
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:34,680
are horrible disgusting, but he
is a he's a an entrepreneur to

1632
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:39,200
the T and like I said, a genius
has nothing to do with his

1633
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,480
political bent.
Or his sociability.

1634
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:45,240
Yeah, or how many kids he has
from how many different lives

1635
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,360
don't make a difference.
Are you running the company?

1636
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,360
Well, good.
A president you want.

1637
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:53,680
President wants a side hustle.
Go ahead.

1638
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,720
Ten of them run the country.
We don't care.

1639
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:57,680
Yeah.
You think so?

1640
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:03,320
I think, I think so.
I mean, JFK had too much, too

1641
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:07,400
much exposure, but if President
Clinton wants to do whatever he

1642
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,160
wants to do and whatever.
And no one gives a.

1643
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,160
Crap, I like nobody.
Just and.

1644
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,800
Nobody even denies it either.
Yeah, run the country.

1645
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,080
I was like, yeah, Clinton was
great.

1646
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:17,160
You're right.
But most people like Clinton,

1647
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,360
like cigar, no cigar, like
Monica, Who cares?

1648
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,760
Like, did you get bin Laden?
That's what we want to know.

1649
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,800
Was the country happy when you
were, when you were president?

1650
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:30,000
That's what they want to know.
Yeah, I don't think, I don't

1651
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,920
think people are going to say
that about Trump right now.

1652
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,360
I don't think they're going to
say it about the second term, I

1653
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,360
think.
And the problem is he's trying

1654
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:41,160
to bullshit his way into
convincing people again not to

1655
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,240
believe their own eyes like the
comedy is better than it's ever

1656
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,160
been for No, it's not, dude.
No, it's not.

1657
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:50,120
I'm a I'm, it's not dude.
I go to the supermarket and I

1658
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:54,560
buy a cottage cheese and a milk
and I pay 1195 and I'm like,

1659
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,680
where the heck did $11.00 go?
And and and I have to be back

1660
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,280
here tomorrow for the same
freaking thing.

1661
01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:01,800
It's out of control.
It is literally, especially

1662
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:06,920
South Florida is out of control.
And I I don't know the answer to

1663
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,000
that.
Again, I think we're hedging.

1664
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,880
I think we're really hedging on
the fact that the combination of

1665
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:18,200
robotics and AI are going to be
so are going to create so much

1666
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,760
wealth it creates.
Oh, they'll create so much

1667
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:21,960
wealth.
That, that, that, but that.

1668
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,400
Would be for a couple.
Save us, but I don't think it's

1669
01:32:24,440 --> 01:32:26,920
going to, no.
No, what's going to save us is

1670
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:30,520
the same thing that created us.
Hate to get back to it, but

1671
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,560
there are no atheists in a
foxhole.

1672
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,200
I never liked that argument, by
the way.

1673
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,120
Well, if you've ever been in a
foxhole, you'd know.

1674
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,800
That I know, and that's the
problem.

1675
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,520
And I've got good friends who
are atheist agnostics, and you

1676
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,280
could see right through their
everything.

1677
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,600
You give them a little bit of
pain.

1678
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,800
So the question is, is, is the
search for God?

1679
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,280
You know, there's a great,
there's a great quote.

1680
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,360
And by the way, I mean, I'm just
saying I'm just having a

1681
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,920
conversation over here.
I I fully believe and I've never

1682
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:04,760
really not, but if God, the
concepts of God is so great that

1683
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,480
it didn't exist, man would have
to create him.

1684
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:09,840
Oh, absolutely.
And like, that to me is like the

1685
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,640
no atheist in a foxhole
conversation.

1686
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,480
Like if someone says no atheist
in a foxhole, like, yeah,

1687
01:33:13,480 --> 01:33:15,120
because you're scared out of
your mind, you better hope that

1688
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,080
something's happening.
You better hope that there's a

1689
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,200
big guy watching you over there.
Because if not, your fuck.

1690
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,400
Man, that is the inconvenient
truth.

1691
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,760
Right.
Well, it should be for both the

1692
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:25,560
ways.
Scientists might not like him.

1693
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,640
Yeah, because that's not
science.

1694
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,600
It's not this.
It's the study of something.

1695
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,200
But it it it boils down to the
same amoeba.

1696
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:35,640
Yeah.
Yeah, it's the it's the lowest

1697
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:36,440
level.
Yeah.

1698
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,960
You go to the quark who created
the quark, and you just you're

1699
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,120
you're you're left.
Science stops.

1700
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,560
Yeah, Yeah.
It starts with the universe.

1701
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,760
They rely on the same miracle
that we, you know, they rely on,

1702
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,600
on a miracle of The Big Bang.
Exactly.

1703
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,240
So to be continued.
This was a pleasure.

1704
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,200
It was so much fun now.
We'll have to do another 10.

1705
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,520
Where'd you What'd you think?
Your first podcast for the

1706
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,320
record out of 10.
I won't know until.

1707
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,280
It's only if you have a target
on your background.

1708
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,520
If there's not a crown Victoria
winning outside thank.

1709
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,440
You so much for coming.
This is a lot of fun and you

1710
01:34:08,440 --> 01:34:11,280
saved my holiday season.
I had no podcasts in the

1711
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,720
pipeline until Wednesday.
I'm glad I could do that for

1712
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,920
you.
Monday, thank you so much.

1713
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:17,520
Take care.