142: Epstein & “The System” / Revolving Doors / Sunk Cost with Society / Rebels & Underdogs

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Welcome to another episode of
Come Together,

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ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome back to another episode

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of Come Together.
Cheers.

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Back to when I used to listen to
a great podcast called Victory,

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the Podcast featuring all the
guys from Entourage.

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So Doug Allen, the creator,
Johnny Drama, Kevin Dillon and E

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Kevin Connolly used to do a
podcast or still do, but I don't

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listen to it as much anymore.
And one thing they used to do is

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crack open cans and call them
Irish crickets.

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So cheers.
We have a lot to go over today

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and you know, I've been again,
I'm always kind of reconsidering

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and rethinking about the
direction of the podcast and I'm

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always trying to think about the
best way to improve it and to

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keep things going in.
I think that it's important to

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be able to touch up on air or
provide some of my own thoughts

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that are on events that are
going on.

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And I can't imagine a bigger
story than the Epstein one

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that's going on right now.
Now, I'm aware that people, a

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lot of people are using this
story as click bait, I'm sure.

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I'm aware that a lot of people
have been really opportunistic

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about this.
And the truth is, I don't blame

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them, obviously.
But this also exposes something

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bigger and something more
powerful than I think we have

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realized until now.
And there are a couple of people

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that really do some awesome deep
dives into web scene's history

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and explain that he's a lot more
than just pedophile blackmail

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honey trap guy.
He is.

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And, and, and I've talked about
this peripherally in a bunch of

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different podcasts where I bring
them up with where I bring him

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up with my guests.
And there seems to be an

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enormous amount of reluctance to
talk about it.

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And I understand that reluctance
actually, because it's extremely

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unpleasant.
And the implications, especially

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as you read the documentation
that the Justice Department has

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been providing we're this is
crazy.

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This is this is really, really,
really bonkers.

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And I think so many people don't
know how to wrap their head

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around it that it's easier to
not not even try to wrap your

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head around it.
And there's a couple of things

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that happen, obviously in the
last couple of days.

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We know that Thomas Massie in
Rocahana from the congressman

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from Thomas Massie from
Kentucky, Rocahana from

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California, young guy,
relatively young guys, I

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suppose.
And really, I mean, the

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beautiful thing about and what I
love most about Thomas Massie

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story is that he is middle
America.

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That is, you know, he represents
the part of the country that is

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America, the homeland and not
looking and not living on the

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borders, what you would almost
call them our borders, which

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would be New York, California,
the South, the north, where you

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almost are inherently interested
in your nearest potential

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neighbor.
And even though that might be

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hypothetically an ocean away,
one thing that has happened,

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obviously, as technology,
transportation and everything

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has evolved is that they're
still our neighbors.

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And, you know, I mean, yeah,
Well, we may have some kind of

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like physical barrier distance
between us, but as far as taxes,

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as far as business concerned
concerned, as far as politics,

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economics, spillover between
people and countries and

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cultures, it's not it's not
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And so Thomas Massey represents
the group of people that are not

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interested in necessarily
dealing with neighbors.

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We'd call them for now,
neighbors of our country in any

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direction.
He's focused on dealing with in

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and and only someone that's
really focused on dealing with

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in is going to be able to pull
the plug.

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You would call it on this
American global presence that

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we've been working towards since
World War 2.

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And it's been it's been an
experiment.

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And the truth is that I think
that I mean, one thing that you

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have to, that you really could
say in all fairness, is that we

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really did try to give economic
imperialism and global

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imperialism and global power a
real shot.

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And we really did try to do it.
And we came up with a lot of

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different philosophies and a lot
of different perspectives and a

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lot of different justifications
and validations for why we have

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to go to other parts of the
world, why we have to inject

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ourselves in other people's
business.

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And we've made a lot of really,
you know, and, and, and listen,

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apparently the arguments have
been compelling enough that

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that, that we've done it and
that the people, that the

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American people and the, and the
rest of the world have kind of

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come gone along with it.
But we're coming to the point

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now where we're seeing that that
that experiment didn't really

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take and it's not really
working.

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And So what we're going to have
to do, and this is in this kind

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of comes to the point.
And this is almost the way that

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I think a lot of people make
decisions in their own personal

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lives too, which is at some cost
fallacy, which is like, well, I

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already sunk so much into this
and like, I just got to keep on

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riding it out.
I do this all the time.

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I buy, I buy, you know, and I've
learned to try to not do this.

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But let's say I go to a brewery
and the beer that I buy in

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breweries is not typically very
cheap.

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And that's why I've kind of
stopped going much more often.

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But I go to a brewery and I buy
myself this delicious barrel

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aged stout.
It's a 14% stout that was aged

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in bourbon barrels for two
years, you know, with some

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coffee and some vanilla beans
added to it and just absolutely

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looks delicious on the menu.
And I, and I goes and, and it's

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$8 for a four ounce pour, 4 pour
for anyone that wouldn't know

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is, I don't know, like I'd say
1/3 of a beer glass.

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No, yeah, a typical beer glass
is about 12 to 16 ounces.

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So do that without what you
will.

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And I'll take it and I'll taste
it.

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And that first sip, I'll be
like, oh man, this beer is bad.

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Now, in order to get for that
beer to be 14% alcohol and for

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it to get all that flavour,
there's got to be a lot of

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sugar, a lot of crap in that
that is not good for me.

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But I already spent 8 bucks on
this.

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So like, what's it like?
I, you know, I already spent the

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8 bucks.
Even if it's not that great, at

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least it's 14% alcohol.
Maybe I'll get a little buzz

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going.
Maybe it's, you know, maybe it's

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worth it.
And I have to spend all these.

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I have to spend all this time
coming up with reasons to

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convince myself and to compel
myself to go ahead and do

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something that I don't really,
really want to do.

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And I think there's a lot of
people right now, America is at

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this national identity point
where we're saying we, unless I

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grew up with it, I grew up with
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I remember learning now, and
it's so funny how these ideas

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come back to you so many years
later and you kind of see how

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your education has been formed.
But I remember learning in

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history class in high school.
And history was a class, one of

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the few classes that I really
enjoyed and thought that I was

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OK at.
I remember learning in history

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class in America is the world's
police.

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And I remember thinking to
myself, why should we be?

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And then my teacher said,
because we are the most moral

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nation and because moral, I
guess, I guess right makes

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might, which makes right.
And, and you know, and, and,

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and, and I was too young at that
point to really think for myself

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or to really push back on that.
I kind of just accepted it as it

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is.
And I don't think that's

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necessarily the case.
Obviously, looking back now, I

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don't, I don't, I don't think
that that should be the case.

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And I don't necessarily think
that we should be teaching

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people, kids like that at the
end of the day.

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But what we do know is we've had
this identity since World War 2.

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Generations have grown up with
this perception.

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And not only that.
And obviously, as I kind of

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learned more and as my podcast
guests have become a little bit

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more diverse in their
backgrounds as far as their

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research and the work that they
conduct, we're being, this idea

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is constantly being reinforced
in Hollywood and the movies that

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we watch too, and the two and
the television shows that we

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watch.
And, and we don't even, you

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know, and so and, and, and, and
Hollywood loves to emphasize.

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And there was an incredible
document.

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I'll see if I could try to find
the link and post on the show

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notes captions, but if not, feel
free please to Google this.

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Or you could look this up on
spyculture.com on Tom Sucker's

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website.
He does great reporting about

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this.
But that, oh, I'm so sorry, it's

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in the book.
And I'll, I'll post the I'll

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post the book superheroes movies
in the state that the Los

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Angeles Police Department.
What does not allow for their

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cops or their officers to be
portrayed doing anything that is

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considered racist or ethically
questionable, despite their long

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history of not necessarily doing
that?

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And I'm not, Again, I'm not.
I do not want to say that the

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Los Angeles Police Department is
a bad LAPD, are bad people, is a

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bad organization, is a corrupt
organization.

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I don't know anything about it,
but I do know that no one's

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perfect.
And I do know that organizations

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certainly are not perfect.
And over the course of many,

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many, many years with very with,
with a lot of really, really

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weird circumstances happening in
California, whether it's the

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government intervention, whether
it's the creative scene, whether

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it's Hollywood or music, a lot
of weird shit happens.

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A lot of really weird shit
happens and, and it's OK, I

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think, to go ahead and to admit
when bad shit happens and say

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we're trying to clean it up.
But there seems to be this.

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It's so important for the
institutions in America to be

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flawless in the eyes of their
population that I don't think

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they realize that they're
stretching it past the point of

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credibility and that becomes an
issue.

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But that's all just an example.
And just to say that we have

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this perception of what America
is and we're realizing now, and

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primarily through Epstein and
primarily through what all, you

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know, how how connected he was
and all the relationships he had

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and how many people have
influence and power and business

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and technology and medicine and
politics and everything that

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this guy had his hands on.
Maybe it wasn't such a good

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idea.
And now we're going to have to

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pivot.
And the problem is that America

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is such a massive ship, is such
a huge ship.

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And listen, I mean, obviously
it's smaller than China.

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Obviously it's smaller than
India.

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It could be done.
It could be done as far as

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population, but it's such a huge
ship that we have to turn, you

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know, in order to be able to
turn, it's got to be slow.

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It's got to be a long, painful,
difficult process.

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And it's the same way that
people have described, for

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example, when you work in a
company.

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And I've read many, many
accounts of this from because I

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because I love this world.
But the early days between Pixar

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and Disney in the in the mid 90s
when Pixar was just a startup,

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just a quick nimble startup
being funded by literal deposits

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from Steve Jobs's bank account
into the employees pockets, They

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were able to create incredible,
incredible content that Disney,

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which was already a behemoth
established corporate entity,

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was not quite able to take on
the same creative risks, to

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tackle the same types of
challenges in the same way

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because of just how huge they
were and how enormous they were.

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And So what Disney ended up
doing was essentially

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subcontracting Pixar to make a
bunch of those, to make a bunch

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of great movies that they
recognized they were too big to

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be able to or or too slow or too
corporate or too mechanical to

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really be able to come up with
on on their own.

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And it feels like America is
does just does not know what

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it's doing with itself right
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The right is eating itself from
the inside.

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The left has a massive power
vacuum.

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The, the, the, the population of
leaders is getting older.

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Younger people are not
interested necessarily in really

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stepping up in leadership
positions.

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And if they do it, it always
feels like they're being bought

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out, which obviously is the name
of the game.

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So this Epstein thing is, and we
can see why the government has

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worked so hard to cover up this
this story and this character

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and all the people that are
related to him because he is a

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shadow manifestation of a global
system.

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And call me a conspiracy
theorist, but I think that all

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the documentations on the
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kind of say to the opposite.
So while it might be a lot to

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take to wrap our head around,
that essentially is what it is.

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days that really, really
emphasize exactly how rotten the

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system is.
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conspiracy theories about
Epstein.

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He didn't kill himself, blah,
blah, blah.

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And it was never confirmed or
denied.

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And the FBI and you have the FBI
doesn't do anything.

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And then you have Cash Patel and
Dan Bongino, who make who who

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who run with Trump on the
promise of flipping everything

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on its head.
And the second they walk in,

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they realize that this ship is a
lot bigger than they were able

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to.
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again, and not to ever, ever,
ever compare, I don't think,

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unless it has to be, but unless
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But not to compare Disney to any
wrongdoing and Pixar to any

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right doing.
But it shows how vehemently and

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how, how far a system is willing
to go to make sure that its life

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force is preserved.
And even if it's a bad system,

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and even if it's a dangerous
system, it will fight the same

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way that human body fights, you
know, viruses with and fights

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disease and has an autoimmune
response.

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There are big systems like the
government that's that, that's,

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that are set up in order to weed
out anything that tries to take

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it down.
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astounding, really astounding
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that three things.
Actually, there's three primary

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things that in the last couple
of days that have really, really

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blown this hole open for me #1
was the announcement of

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Epstein's death the day before
he died by the Attorney General.

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I think there was an
announcement August 9th, and he

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died and he died August 10th,
which means that.

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And again, I don't know what it
means.

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I'm not going to say what it
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It's judged.
It shows that there was some

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kind of planning or some kind of
conspiracy is is the word, I

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mean, an alternative plan for
this for for what the actual

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actions of the government were
going to be and what the story

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that they were going to tell the
public was.

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And so there was an announcement
the day before he died that he

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was that he was dead.
Obviously he wasn't yet.

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And then there was a body double
that was there to quote and look

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this up in the Justice
Department website that was

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there to distract the press
while the actual body was

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smuggled out another door.
We don't know whether the body

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was alive, you know, whether the
body was dead.

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We don't know what kind of
condition the body was in.

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And then the FBI, the FBI on
record, again, according to the

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Justice Department, this is not
conspiracy as far as I know.

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Now, these documents may be
doctored now, but and now this

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may not be true, but then I
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measure any kind of yardstick or
take anything seriously one way

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or the other if we're just going
to kind of throw all, all sorts

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of evidence into speculation.
But according to the Justice

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Department, the FBI, A
announced, you know, the

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attorney general announced that
Epstein was was dead a day

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before he died.
B Second body C deleted the

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camera footage, took the camera
footage, erased it, deleted it,

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destroyed it, whatever they did
with it gone.

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So just those three things I
think are incredible, an

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incredible indication of just
how far a system is willing to

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go to protect itself.
And then to be able to convince

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the people that are working for
the system, like Cash Patel or

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Dan Bongino, that they can't
talk, that they can't do

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anything about it and that this
is going to happen whether you

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like it or not.
And and the system has a way of

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chewing people out too, because
Dan Bongino had lost a lot of

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his credibility, obviously,
based on the 180 that he had to

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do once he entered the FBI.
And then he left and he came

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back to the podcast world.
And you can look this up,

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actually, this is crazy in like
the week since his podcast aired

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again, since he came back from
leaving the FBI after nine

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months as a deputy director,
which is second in command.

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He he started, he started I
think of like 1.5 million

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viewers on his podcast and was
losing an average of 300,000

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people a day until I just saw I
think yesterday, the day before

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that Fox had decided rehired
him.

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And so Dan Bongino went from
being this rumble star,

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alternative news media,
independent news organization,

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voice of voice of the people,
you know, fighting the

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institution to basically getting
sucked into it, losing all his

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credibility and then getting
hired out by corporate media.

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I mean, like it's and I, and I
feel bad for him.

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I really, really do.
Because you know what?

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I don't know what damn Bongino's
life is like.

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I don't know what kind of
threats or situations that he

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had to deal with while he was in
the FBI.

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I don't know who said what to
him about his wife or family or

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whatever it is.
And you know what?

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I don't know that I would do
anything differently.

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Unfortunately, unfortunately, it
really, really takes a martyr.

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It really, really takes a hero
and someone with nothing to

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lose, it feels like, to be able
to make a difference like this.

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Unless your name is Thomas
Massie, of course.

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But so that that that's that I
think is like the first

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installment of how important it
is that people do not let go of

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this story and that the story
keeps on going because the

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institutions want the story to
go away.

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People that don't want to
believe that the corruption and

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the sickness is as far reaching
as it is want this to go away

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just so that we could get back
to normal.

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I don't know that things are
going to get back to normal

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anymore.
I don't know what normal is

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anymore.
I don't know normal is anymore.

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We have these crazy UFO
congressional hearings that are

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going on that you have to stick
your head in the sand to not

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hear about.
You have this Epstein stuff

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that's going on.
You have advanced military

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potential weapons that
governments around the world,

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China, Russia, America, anyone
are potentially using that no

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one knows anything about.
We have potential nuclear wars

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going off.
We have.

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Yeah, we have Vladimir Putin
talking about the fact that if

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this war is not over in the next
two years, he might drop a nuke

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on Germany.
We can't just go back to normal.

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Like I think that, and I think
that unfortunately this goes

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back to a lot of the American
issues that comes from being

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such a young country and being
from being from being such a

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young empire is we're so short
term.

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We're so short.
We're so we're so short sighted

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and think in such short terms
that and we just want to be

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comfortable and live our
everyday lives that we're

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willing to ignore everything
around us to be able to continue

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that.
And until then, events keep on

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piling up and the consequences
are keep on getting bigger and

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bigger and bigger.
And I'm not, I don't want to

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come across as a doomsday person
because I'm really not.

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But I think that it's really,
really important to be able to

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acknowledge the issue that you
have in order to be able to

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respond to it.
And this is actually where I

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kind of get into a little bit
more of what I hope to be a

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little bit more solution based
conversation.

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We know that that the revolving
door has always been a point of

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corruption for any kind of
regulation and for anyone that

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doesn't know what or understand
the terminology, revolving door

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basically is referring to the
relationship between private

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sectors and regulators slash
government.

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So, for example, if I work for
the DEA, the Drug Enforcement

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Agency, and I understand the
government's rules and the way

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that the government tracks down
illegal drugs or illegal drugs

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and has and, and, and determines
whether or not they are being

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provided and supplied to
patients safely and in an

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ethical way.
I have this whole playbook of I

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understand how the government
works.

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And I've been working for the
government for 10-15 years,

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doing the good fight or even 5
years, whatever amount of time

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it is, doing the good fight,
learning the game, learning how

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the government regulates and
helps protect people against

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legal and illegal drugs.
And then after 5/10/15 years, I

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say, you know what, I'm done
Making $70,000 a year or

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$100,000 a year and clocking in
nine to five and having a, you

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know, very bureaucratic job.
And I'd like to be able to do

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something more with myself.
I can get hired out by a company

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or by a consulting firm or by a
pharmaceutical company to help

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that company navigate its way
around the regulations.

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Now, who is better to do that
than the actual person creating

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the regulations?
So this revolving door applies

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to any industry that you can
think of that has regulation.

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Oil, energy, entertainment,
politics.

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I obviously politics, sorry, you
know, garbage, waste disposal,

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pharmaceuticals, everything,
anything, anything that is

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regulated has the potential for
the revolving door.

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The good news is that you have
that, that what we could do is

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we could apply the revolving
door logic the other way around

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and that is and and and that's
and obviously that's always a

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little bit more dangerous.
We have, I think the first step

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of that is called
whistleblowing, right?

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Where you work for a company or
an organization or a government

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entity and you say, hey, we're
not doing what we're supposed to

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be doing right now.
I have to make this public.

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This is wrong.
People are getting hurt.

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It goes against ethics and laws
and values of XY and Z, company

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or government or institution.
And I'm going to make this

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public.
I'm going to make this known.

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That's the first step.
And then you could actually join

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the fight.
And that's why I think people

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there's people like, and I've
brought him up before, Mike Benz

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is such an important and crucial
character that is almost single

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handedly blowing the door open
on so many important issues

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because he is the reverse
version of revolving door.

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He had worked in politics.
He is a lawyer.

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He worked under the first Trump
administration and then said,

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you know what?
I I get my hands tied in

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bureaucracy.
I get my hands tied, you know,

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with classified cortical
classified information I had, I

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could only do so much within the
system.

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Let me go out of my own.
Let me go to Twitter, let me go

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to Rumble, let me go to X, let
me go to the podcast world.

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And I'll take the inside
knowledge that I have of the

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workings and I'm going to
publicize it and teach people

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how to combat it.
And that is incredible.

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And for everyone that feels that
this fight is hopeless because

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of this revolving door, just one
guy, I mean, just Mike Benz.

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And then you have incredible
people like, you know,

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journalists like Michael
Schallenberger or Glenn

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Greenwald or whoever that
understand how a system works on

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the inside, publicizes it,
learns how to maneuver around

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it, and then helps teach people
how to do the same thing in

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order to make a difference.
That is just, it's just a hope.

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It's just the only hope, I
think, for being able to rebound

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from whatever sick, disgusting
and evil philosophies and

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individuals have taken over the
free world.

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And again, a system wants to
save itself.

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We can't.
I don't blame any particular

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person in the government
necessarily.

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I mean, listen, there are
particular people that you could

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blame.
And you know, we have their

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names and they should be held
accountable.

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We should be learning their
names and they should be held

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accountable.
But a lot of people are just in

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a system.
A lot of people are just in the

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system, in the system designed
to make sure that it keeps on

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surviving, that these people
still have jobs, that these

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people still get paychecks.
That that I mean, if, if the

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entire American government fell
apart because of all the people

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that were potentially indicted
or potentially involved one way

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or the other in this, in this
Epstein ring world, it's a scary

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concept.
We got to rebuild from scratch.

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And you know what, Well, what's
the rush?

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Maybe we should rebuild right
away.

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What I think about the chaos
that happens.

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And I really hear, I really,
really, really hear.

450
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,120
But if the if the premise of
your house, the foundation of

451
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,320
your house is completely rotted
away, there's got to be

452
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,840
something else to do about it.
There's got to be something else

453
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,560
to do about it.
And this isn't just an American

454
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,240
thing I want to say, because
this is clearly a global, this

455
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,680
clearly a global effort.
Epstein was not more tied to

456
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,600
America than he was to Israel,
than he was to Saudi, than he

457
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,840
was to Britain.
Then I mean, I think he had a

458
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,880
fake, what was Australian,
Austria, I think Austrian

459
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,400
passport.
I mean, he had a Saudi pass.

460
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,880
I mean, like this, this guy was
everywhere.

461
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:59,600
It's not a particular country.
It is just a system of what we

462
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,320
would call again and and I hate
using these kind of

463
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,720
terminologies because they
really lead to to, you know,

464
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:13,280
quote UN quote conspiracies.
It's a global elite.

465
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,600
It's a group of powerful people
that run powerful institutions

466
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,400
that all have similar agendas to
one another, which is to

467
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,920
maintain power, influence or
control or economic wealth or

468
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,480
whatever it is that they're
looking for.

469
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:33,280
And they just don't want to give
it up And but, but positive

470
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,560
again, you want to, you want to
flip this on his head, You want

471
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,480
to, you want to bring something
positive out of this.

472
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,680
Think about all the good that
could happen.

473
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Now think about all the good
that can occur from goodwill,

474
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:56,120
from free, not corrupt trade.
You know from from trade and

475
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,600
economic relationships that
don't result in simply a

476
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,880
transfer of wealth from the
middle and the bottom class to

477
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,080
the top class, but just create
opportunity, period, and let

478
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,800
everyone and let everyone lift
up a little bit.

479
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,760
This we see this could happen on
a global level because the

480
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,240
opposite has happened on a
global level.

481
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,600
And so once the potential for
all the bad is exposed and once

482
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,200
the potential for all the
negative ways that we're all

483
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,640
connected is exposed, it could
lead to a positive ways that we

484
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,840
could be that we could build on
it.

485
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,640
Once we burn that down, we could
have a lot of really, really

486
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,600
wonderful relationships.
We could have a lot of really,

487
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:44,240
really wonderful communal global
efforts where and listen, the

488
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280
part of the reason why and not a
part of the reason.

489
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:55,880
And then probably one of the
main reasons why any kind of war

490
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,640
happens is because 1 country
identifies another country that

491
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,400
has what they want, whether it's
minerals, whether it's a

492
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,840
geographic location that's
really important, whether it's a

493
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,680
country that they border,
whatever it may be, they

494
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,920
identify something they want.
They try to take it by force

495
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,240
instead of inviting an idea,
instead of inviting

496
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,760
collaboration.
And I think that, you know, I

497
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,120
think that this is we're getting
to a really, really interesting

498
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,960
point in time and where we're
seeing the flaws of our short

499
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,360
term capitalism and we're seeing
the flaws of we just got to

500
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880
smack.
We got to just grab as much as

501
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,320
we can for us today.
Right now, we just need as much

502
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,360
as we can on a daily basis
because we have to show every

503
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,560
quarter or every month or
whatever it is that we that we

504
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,360
are still successful and we stop
thinking long term.

505
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,280
We could have a form of long
term capitalism which rewards

506
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,840
long sighted thinking that
might, you know, have.

507
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,240
And again, Amazon is such an
awesome example of this company.

508
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,880
If you want a case in point for
a business or for an

509
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,680
organization that sacrificed.
And I don't know if they still

510
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,920
do.
I'm sure they do.

511
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,800
I don't know as much about it.
I haven't kept up as much about

512
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,160
it as much as I've learned about
the beginning of the company.

513
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,600
But Amazon did not care about
its quarterly profits for well

514
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,880
over a decade of its existence
as an organ, as a company.

515
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,680
And Wall Street punished them.
And their shares were going up

516
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,360
and down.
And it was a little turbulent as

517
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,560
far as Wall Street was
concerned.

518
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,560
But the company itself was
establishing itself, was, was

519
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,280
setting the foundation to be
able to succeed like no other

520
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,560
company, really like no other
company.

521
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,280
And I think that that should be
rewarded.

522
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,320
I think that is the kind of
behavior that we need long term

523
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,600
if America's going to find a way
to bounce back from this issue.

524
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,320
Because I think that everything
that we every, a lot of our

525
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,080
problems that we have, our
social problems, our economic

526
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,600
problems, our religious
problems, our health problems, a

527
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,280
lot of these issues stem from
compulsive and perpetual short

528
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,800
term thinking that and we can't
seem to wrap our head about

529
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,280
around what is going to be more
than 5 minutes or five months

530
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,520
from now.
We can't wrap our head around

531
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,600
what's in five years or 10 years
or what we want things to look

532
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,280
like.
And by the way, I'm not good at

533
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,480
that kind of thinking either.
I'm really not.

534
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,600
And I'm not expecting every
business or every company or

535
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,920
every individual to have a
detailed plan where I hope in

536
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,800
five years from now we look
exactly like this and 10 years

537
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,480
from now be exactly like that.
But there are decisions that you

538
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600
could make.
They say, hey, I know that I

539
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,240
want something better long term.
And I know that right now, short

540
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,040
term, this might be look good,
but this is not what I'm looking

541
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,040
for big picture.
And so I don't know what the

542
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,320
final, my final plan is going to
be.

543
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,800
But I know that by acting in
this short term interest, I'm

544
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,520
going, I'm putting my long term
plan in jeopardy.

545
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,280
And we have to, I think that we
should be thinking a lot more

546
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,520
like that.
The other potential positive

547
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,760
aspect of globalization and the
fact that everything is so

548
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,240
closely intertwined is that it
also is able to, we're also able

549
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,520
to spread out.
Not the blame, I guess, but

550
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,680
this, Epstein's story and
Epstein's behavior and

551
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,400
connections are so far reaching
that it's not necessarily just

552
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,680
up to the American government to
disclose what's going on.

553
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,400
And just because the American
institutions are rotten and

554
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,080
corrupt to the point that
they're not willing to

555
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,040
acknowledge, I mean, imagine how
big of a news story this is.

556
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440
This is this makes Watergate
look like a joke.

557
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,360
This makes this makes a lot of
things in American history look

558
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,159
like a joke.
This very, very well may be one

559
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:21,159
of the most, probably the most
influential time as far as a

560
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,800
national identity or global
identity that this planet is

561
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,360
experiencing.
And I don't mean that I mean

562
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,199
that very, very seriously.
I'm not trying to just say

563
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:36,719
dramatic, you know, statements
and I'm not trying to grandstand

564
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,719
over here the extent of
scientists, doctors,

565
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,800
businessmen, politicians, world
leaders, arms deals, everything.

566
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,960
I mean, going back to Iran,
Contra, banks, everything,

567
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,320
everything is involved in this.
News organizations, everyone,

568
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,680
everyone is involved in this.
And so as far as American media

569
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,880
is concerned or as far as
American, American systems

570
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,120
concerned, we're not going to
get anything.

571
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,440
But you know who's a lot less
corrupt?

572
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,160
Potentially maybe the UK where
they're already having or you

573
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160
know, maybe where they're
already having consequences to,

574
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,520
to, to the documents being
dumped.

575
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,120
Maybe Australia, maybe Germany,
maybe Israel, probably not maybe

576
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,720
Israel.
I hope Israel.

577
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:23,840
I would love for that to be the
case.

578
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,520
I'd love for people to be
responsible and to be able to

579
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,680
say, hey, we got it.
We got ahead of our skews over

580
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,440
there.
We got caught up in something

581
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,040
that was totally not what the
right thing is.

582
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,640
And we and we, we want to take a
step back from that.

583
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,880
I would love if the country did
that.

584
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,360
I don't know if they're going
to.

585
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,840
But the point is that because of
the fact this isn't just an

586
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,120
American problem, because the
fact that there's a global

587
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:52,760
problem, there's an endless
amount of ways for the story to

588
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,320
be exposed.
And so folk in America and I've

589
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,880
actually been learning about,
I've been trying to do this

590
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,600
myself just in general for the
podcast.

591
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,880
I've been trying to get guests
that are not from this country

592
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,480
and they're not biased towards
our very limited American

593
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,640
perspective.
There's a lot of perspectives

594
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,200
out there that we should be
listening to.

595
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,480
There's a lot of indications
that people are really being

596
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,320
held accountable that we should
take a look at and say, hey,

597
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,520
wouldn't be the worst thing in
the world.

598
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,120
If I mean, listen, this thing
might topple the freaking what

599
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,560
do you call the the British, the
royal family, the dynasty.

600
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:31,840
I have no idea what's going to
happen, but I do wanna I, I

601
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,280
think the purpose of the podcast
that are the reason why I wanted

602
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:41,960
to talk about this is not to
emphasize how terrible things

603
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,800
are and not to talk about how
bad things are, but to talk

604
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:50,000
about how it's important to
acknowledge the issues that

605
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,920
exist, but to also say that
there's a lot of really

606
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,640
potentially good things that are
going on right now.

607
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,640
Thomas Massie in Rokahana, the
fact that the left and the right

608
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,400
are supporting about are coming
together to support this is an

609
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,440
enormous deal.
The fact that we're getting a

610
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,000
lot of unredacted evidence,
we're getting a lot of evidence

611
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,000
about the corruption of the
system from within the system

612
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,200
that's being forced out by the
representative representatives

613
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,080
of the people is a huge deal.
Is hope.

614
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,680
That is a sign of hope.
The same way that that that

615
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,840
that, that the podcast world and
Twitter, it feels like had such

616
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,480
an enormous impact on the
elections in 2024.

617
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:32,280
The people are having a huge
impact on the Epstein story.

618
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:38,800
And we're seeing the power of
militarized, democratized power

619
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:43,520
against a system.
And that's good.

620
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,520
That's good for now.
That's really good for now.

621
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,320
That's really hopeful.
The fact that Epstein was a

622
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,720
globalized, it was a global
force, it is a good thing

623
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:54,640
because if he was only
constrained to the American

624
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,840
government, then we might never
get it out.

625
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,920
But if Switzerland talks about
it, if England talks about it,

626
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,400
if Germany talks about it, if
Australia talks about it, if

627
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,920
Saudi Arabia talks about it, if
Iran talks about it, hey, all of

628
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,600
a sudden we got a lot more
information that we can that

629
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,120
that that that we the people can
use.

630
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,960
So I'm not here.
And then finally the revolving

631
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,360
door.
And then finally the people on

632
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,800
the inside, whether you're going
to be a whistleblower and coming

633
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,040
out of the system or whether
you're actually going to come

634
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,760
out and actually take a stand to
make and make this a fight like

635
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,560
the way that Mike Benz does.
I think that we're going to, I

636
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,640
think this is a time for hope.
I think this is a time of

637
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,720
massive change.
I think it's a time of scary

638
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,800
change.
That doesn't mean that it's not

639
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,240
hopeful and it doesn't mean that
it's not incredible.

640
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,800
I'm really, I'm really excited.
I'm really hopeful.

641
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,200
I'm nervous obviously about
their percussions.

642
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:56,880
I'm nervous because again, the
same way that body has an immune

643
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,120
system that kicks out a
probably, you know, that that

644
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,160
kicks out invaders.
This American system is a big

645
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,160
system.
It really, really is.

646
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,720
But I think that thanks to
people like Thomas Massie in Ro

647
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,560
Kahana, Marjorie Taylor Green,
gotta give her credit.

648
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,320
We have Luna.
I forgot her.

649
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,200
I forgot her first name from
Florida, where the people, the

650
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,000
people are, are, are are
fighting back.

651
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,640
And what's so cool?
It's so much fun.

652
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,360
And it's funny how how this
changes, right?

653
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,160
American media, we talk a lot.
I talk a lot about the influence

654
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,440
and propaganda the media has,
and one of the things that they

655
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,760
may have done to shoot
themselves in the foot is that

656
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,400
American media is always
represented the American people

657
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,760
as rebels, as underdogs.
And we are.

658
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,440
I know that as a country we
might not be, but as a people

659
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:59,480
being held hostage to a system
that has been in the shadows if

660
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,200
ish.
Has been so corrupt in the

661
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,520
shadows for so many years and
now it's blown right open.

662
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,200
We can fight it.
We can fight it and we should

663
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,760
fight it and we're going to
fight it.

664
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,160
And we've been taught through
media, we've been trained

665
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,480
through media that we can escape
this.

666
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,280
And we are the rebels and we are
the underdogs.

667
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,400
And the people in America, the
people who are told that the

668
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,600
that the economy is doing great
when they're suffering

669
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,400
financially, the people that are
told there's nothing to see here

670
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,640
when all these unredacted
documents are talking about

671
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,600
torture videos and 11 year olds
and 9 year olds, and I mean, God

672
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,400
knows what.
And listen, sure.

673
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,520
Context, less, sure.
Hearsay for now.

674
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,760
But there's dark shit going on
and everyone knows it.

675
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,160
There's a lot of dark shit, and
everyone knows it.

676
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And so at the end of the day,
the institutions that have

677
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,080
worked so hard to portray
America as these underdogs, even

678
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:16,080
though he may not have been as a
country, the people have been

679
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,440
soaking in these messages for a
long time.

680
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,720
And I hope that we continue to
and I hope that we continue to

681
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,520
create content, to put out
podcasts, to put it, to make

682
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,960
movies and television shows that
show that the individuals can

683
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,160
escape from the system because
we can.

684
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,720
We're on the way to doing it.
And this is just step one.

685
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,640
More podcast episodes coming out
for you tomorrow.

686
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,800
I hope tomorrow or Friday you
got a couple of guests lined up

687
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,920
and more into next week.
Till then, bye everyone and

688
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:45,560
always a pleasure.