#147 Thoughts on Israel / Who’s Representing Jews? / Biblical Exiles /The Need for Leadership

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Welcome to another episode of
Come Together.

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We are live for what's going to
be one of the hardest episodes

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that I've ever had to record Was
my third take.

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Trying to get through it, and
it's really, really, really

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hard.
But I think I'm getting my

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thoughts organized in an order
enough to be able to be able to

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make this cohesion coherent.
Excuse me, this topic is so hard

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for me to cover because I am
Jewish first.

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Jewish first, not American first
or Israeli first.

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I'm Jewish first.
I live and breathe and will die

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by the Jewish values and the
Torah values and the ones that

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are that are completely
committed to life and completely

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committed to, to develop an
evolution of consciousness and

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the the weight of the
responsibility of trying to fix

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the world around us in a
healthy, positive and uplifting

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way.
We'll live and die by these

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values.
And I do live and die by these

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values and I raise my family
with these values.

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And so it's really, really
difficult to talk about

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particular particular topics and
current events, the news,

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because it requires a lot of
nuance.

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And I hope that I hope God gives
me the the strength and the

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words to be nuanced.
Hashem should help me.

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There's a Jewish, there's an
idea in Jewish literature, a

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Jewish concept called exile
Gullus, not the secret, not not

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well known.
There's various Jewish exiles

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that happened to the Jewish
people and there, and there was

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like this 4 ones that are of
quote UN quote biblical

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proportions because you can call
obviously called the Spanish

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Spanish Inquisition.
You know, obviously in exile.

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You can call Holocaust in exile,
of course, but as far as the

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biblical ones, there is Egypt,
which was Mitryam.

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It's a very famous Let My People
Go story and great DreamWorks

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movie, I think based on that.
Then there was Babylon and

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Greece and then what was called
Adam, and we don't really know

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who Adam.
Well, yeah, who the nation is

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today, which is really, really
interesting because I think

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that's intentional.
And one of the reasons why

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that's intentional is because
there's a concept that whenever

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we were exiled, it wasn't just
because a bunch of people came

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and chose, Hey, everyone, real
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Thanks so much to beat up on us,
even though that does happen.

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But the primal and fundamental
and biblical exiles are ones

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that are actually
self-inflicted, that we actually

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look inside towards ourselves
and say what did we screw up

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with?
How did we sabotage one another?

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What did we do to break the word
of God?

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What did we do to break the
Torah and to pretend to be holy

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and to pretend to be great and
to pretend to be something that

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we're not?
And people, I mean, you know,

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and you have stories of during
the First Temple that they're

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only just, I think like 30
something high priests are

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calling God, calling Goddess,
which are the representatives of

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the entire people.
It's like the holiest spiritual

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position that that's held in in
for the Jewish people.

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And in the Second Temple, there
was hundreds.

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And one of the reasons why was
because it was a sign of

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corruption and that the people
are trying to buy their way into

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spiritual greatness and they're
trying to buy their way into

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positions of spiritual
authority.

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And it it doesn't work.
And it doesn't work.

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And we don't know who Adam is,
but we know that there's a

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prototype for him, which was
Asaph or Yaakov for Jacob's twin

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brother.
And there's a difference in

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philosophy.
That was really what the primal

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thing was, the primal conflict.
There was a difference in

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philosophy.
And maybe that's why we don't

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know who Adam is as, as a
country, because I think we're

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fighting a philosophy.
I think there's a philosophy,

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there's a, you know, and
everyone keeps on talking about

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spiritual wars.
And obviously there's a

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spiritual war.
Obviously there are wonderful

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people with the with the best
intentions.

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And most people that you and I
will come across with are good

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people.
And then there are people that

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aren't and there are and there
are people that aren't, and

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there are a lot of people that
aren't that pretend to be good.

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That's one thing, right?
And so I want to say that right

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off the bat, when I talk about
the conflict that's happening

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right now in the world and my
criticism of the state of

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Israel, if I'm going to
criticize them, and I am a

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little bit, I'm not talking
about the people.

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I'm not talking about the land,
I'm not talking about the

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businesses.
I'm not even talking about the

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IDFII there, there is so much
Flack that goes to the IDF these

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days.
There's so much Flack that,

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that, that, that against
talking, you know, that goes

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with talking about the people in
Israel and how beautiful the

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country is and how incredible
the, how incredible.

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It, it's just, it, I mean, I, I,
I love the place.

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I lived there for a year and a
half.

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I've been there.
I, I've travelled there probably

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a dozen times, half a dozen
times in my life.

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I don't know exactly how many.
I've been travelling since I was

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a kid.
And man, actually, I grew up my

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whole life basically associating
the state of Israel with

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Orthodox Judaism and, and only,
and, and there was a really,

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really wonderful program.
And there really is a really

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wonderful philosophy that
actually does embrace it.

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And they do really wonderful,
they do really wonderful things.

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They bring biblical concepts to
life in modern day, in modern

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day Israel.
And they have incredible

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biblical sights and tours and
ruins.

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And, and I mean like the day,
the history literally comes to

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life and you're traveling and,
and you go to Israel and you've

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been reading about these places,
the cities that you've been

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hearing about your entire life
and you've been learning about

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your entire life.
And, and you're, and you're, and

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you're praying about and you're
able to just like hop on a bus

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and go through them and, and you
get off the bus and there's just

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a sense of community.
And, and as far as the IDF goes,

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and I think it's so much Flack.
It's crazy because there's such,

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because you know what?
So many of them are just amazing

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kids that are just like 17181920
year olds that make people feel

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comfortable in the street, that
give a sense of like family and

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give a sense of care and like
you don't walk around and you

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don't walk around.
Man.

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In America, we've been kind of,
and I think this is all, I think

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obviously a lot of this is
social manufacturing.

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And there's no question about it
that social media does a lot of

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this and that the fact that
we're so addicted to our phones,

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we're so addicted to social
media and the fact that we're

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more isolated than ever and that
everything is able to be online

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and universities are online and
jobs are online and

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relationships are falling apart
around the world.

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And you're and then and then
Americans don't trust one

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another.
I mean, like, it's a total

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opposite world in Israel.
It's a total opposite world in

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Israel.
You go there and you feel safe

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in the street and you go there
and you and you feel safe

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dealing with people.
And yeah, I know there's going

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to be pushed back.
I know whatever from the

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majority of the time, whether
you're Jewish or not, whether

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you're Jewish or not, there's
always people going there,

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There's always tourists there.
There's always, I mean, and you

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know, I mean, I never felt
uncomfortable, scared really

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going through the Arab shock.
And you know, I mean, I used to

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when I was when I was younger
and then, and then my

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grandfather explained that, hey,
these guys are just businessmen

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that are just trying to feed
their families and they're not

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really interested in in
fighting.

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And like if there are, if there
is fighting, they lose business.

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They're not interested in that
either.

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Like regular people are not
interested in fighting.

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And I'd even realize the weight
of those words.

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I don't think he realized the
weight of those words.

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The notion, the idea that
regular people don't want to

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fight.
Regular people just want to live

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and just want to have their
families and just want to be

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happy and just want a place to
be able to raise their kids and

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spend time together.
That's what regular people want.

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And yes, I'm not criticizing
Israel as a country.

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I'm not criticizing this, the
army even, you know, I'm not

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criticizing the businesses.
I'm not criticizing anything

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about the place.
I'm criticizing the leaders.

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I'm criticizing the I'm
criticizing BB, I'm criticizing

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man.
There's, I mean, the truth is

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I'm not, I was never even
involved in politics.

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I never even knew what this
politics were until it started

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having the impact on on
everything.

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OK, wait.
I want to make sure that I'm not

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going to, I want to reel it in
to make sure I'm going to get

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not emotional about this.
So the state of the state of

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Israel was created in a real
rush.

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And there was, you know,
immediately post Holocaust and a

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lot of young people, a lot of
young extreme people, which, you

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know, is obviously something you
probably need to start a state

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came together and they had a lot
of questions and conflict within

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themselves as to what they
really expected the what they

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envisioned the country to be.
Was this going to be a religious

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place?
Was this going to be a secular

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place?
Was this going to be exclusively

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Jewish?
Was this not going to be

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exclusively Jewish?
If not, what percentage?

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What about army?
What about governance?

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What about airports?
Like, you know, how much of a

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quote UN quote country are we?
We knew that there was a

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absolute need post Holocaust for
a home for the Jews, but we

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didn't know what that home was
necessarily going to look like.

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And it was as if everyone kind
of just put their stuff down was

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like, well, I'll figure it out
later.

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Let's just get it and then we'll
figure it out.

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And I think that we're still
paying for that.

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I think we're still paying the
consequence of creating a

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country without an identity till
today, because the country does

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not have an identity.
The country is kind of

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schizophrenic.
Actually.

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There's conflict between and I'm
not, I'm not trying to, I'm

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sorry.
And I'm saying this is largely

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generalized philosophical
conflict.

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It might boil over with a couple
of individuals, but generally

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speaking, it's primarily
philosophical and not a

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conflict.
I say that there's infighting

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and dis hate and hate in that
kind of sense, although

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obviously there are extreme
cases.

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But between the, you know, the
Orthodox community and the

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secular community and between,
you know, in between the people

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that are expansionist with their
ideology and people that are

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passive and, you know, a little
bit more, a little bit more

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pacifistic, pessimistic about
things.

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And we didn't really ever answer
that question.

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And I think that right now, this
entire, I think that this

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conflict, there are a lot of the
conflicts that have been going

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on are a consequence of us not
necessarily knowing who we are

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and what we're expecting
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The country's becoming, you
know, the country's becoming

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religious very quickly.
And that actually might be a

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good thing.
It might be a good thing.

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And I'm not talking.
And I also want to say that real

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quickly that when I say
religious, I'm not talking about

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the religious representation
within government of Israel

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because I don't know anything
about them.

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But that's not but anyone but
most of the villages, people I

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know, Orthodox people that I
know or most of the people that

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embrace an Orthodox ideology
wouldn't even bother getting

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involved in politics to begin
with.

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So the type of people that
already are, you know, in the

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upper echelons of Israeli
politics, which is almost like

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being on the upper echelons of
American politics, the amount of

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involvement that they have with
one another, most Orthodox

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people wouldn't want any part in
that.

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And not speaking for everyone,
I'm sure there are some people

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that would, but generally
speaking, people don't want

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that.
So I'm not talking about those

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leaders.
But in general, Orthodox

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families tend to have more kids,
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and the secular community tends
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that, you know.
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pop and in a small country like
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Jersey with I even know how many
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crazy couple million people,
maybe 10 million people.

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I'm actually going to look that
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No need to cut that out.
I was right.

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It was 10 million people.
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But yeah, you know, so I mean,
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20 years ago, 30 years ago, a
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religious.
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switching.
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a comedy Hughes interview.
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that were switched, the
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religious.
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quickly.
But this is actually where I

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want to segue into also a
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conversation about Jewish
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voices.
And that is that man, here we

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go.
When I when I've done a couple

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of podcasts with a couple of
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primarily a couple of religious
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And, you know, I've been on the
phone with them and I try to do

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a pre call conversation with
everyone I do a podcast with

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just to kind of get a feel for
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before we record for an hour,
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whatever it is.
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said to me, whenever we're
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how's it going over there?
I speak Hebrew.

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So I, you know, when I hear that
they're Israeli, I switch to

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Hebrew and talk a little bit
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And I'll say, what do you think?
And they'll say, let me tell you

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something, baby's a nightmare
and he's hurting himself and

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he's hurting Jews and he's
hurting Israel.

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And then they'll immediately
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But I would never say that aloud
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And I'm never going to say that
in a recording.

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And you're never going to hear
me say that, you know, in a

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public space.
And I hear, I really do hear.

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I grew up in, I grew up in a
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My mom is my mom.
My grandparents and mom's

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parents are both Holocaust
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And for my mom growing up with
two Holocaust survivors, there's

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no picnic.
Definitely not not saying it

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like not saying she had a bad
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She loved her.
She loves her life and has

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always loved her life, but I'm
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You're growing up with people
that have been through the most

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traumatic, some of the most
traumatic experiences in human

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history.
And it does something for sure.

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And one of the things that it
does is create a very, very,

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very strong primal sense of
tribal, of tribalism, for better

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and for worse.
In a lot of ways, a lot of ways,

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it's really, really good.
In a lot of ways, it could be

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really detrimental in times like
now, in times like now where

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where Epstein emails are leaked
and and millions of people

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around the world are hearing
Epstein talk about the quote UN

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quote gallium And had people
assume now that because Epstein,

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who is a Jew set and and uses a
Jewish or Yiddish word or Hebrew

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word, that that is what every
Jew in the world thinks.

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Let me tell you something.
We don't think like Jeffrey

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Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein does not have a

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very good grasp of Orthodox
Jewish values, traditional

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Jewish values toward Jewish
values.

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And, and the way that he chooses
to understand whatever the hell

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he was doing and whatever way
that he was doing it, the way

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that he was using gallium is not
the way that the gallium is

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used.
And the problem is that there's

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no one that has no, that there's
no one here talking about it and

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there's no one here saying it.
And you know what?

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There hasn't been any kind of
intelligent form of real I, I

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haven't really heard any great
Jewish representation in the

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very, very long time.
Ben Shapiro has not done it.

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Rabbi Tumuli is not doing it,
believe me.

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Barry Weiss is not doing it,
believe me.

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Bibi Netanyahu is certainly not
doing it.

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This is going to take
generations for the world to

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change.
What?

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The way that they look at the
state of Israel now because of

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Bibi's behaviour, fact period.
I'm very sorry to say that and

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I'm and I hope that I'm wrong,
but I don't think that I am.

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And if you have your finger on
the pulse of the world at all,

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it is a really, really, really
unpopular time to be an advocate

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of the state of Israel, to be an
advocate of Israel, Israelis,

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the state of Israel and Jews
around the world.

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It doesn't look good right now.
And I, and I hate to say, and I

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hate that that's the case, but I
also, if no one talks about it,

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then we then, then we're dude.
And if the people that are the

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people that are talking about it
are talking, are the only ones

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talking about it, we're in
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Let me tell you something.
Jonathan Sacks, Rabbi, chief

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Lord, the British Jonathan Sacks
the, the teacher, I, I believe

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at NYU or Columbia, one of the
two or maybe both.

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The one that wrote the book, the
great partnership about science

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and religion going hand in hand.
The one that wrote the book

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called not in God's name, where
he says, Hey, stop pretending

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and, and it's so crazy.
He was writing the book to

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talking about examples of
extremism in all religions,

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Judaism, Christianity and is and
Islam and and he's saying not in

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God's name.
I remember I was in college.

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I can't believe that this is
even a story that I have to say

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right now.
I was in college.

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I was in Binghamton and I have a
good friend of mine who's so

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smart.
I'm not going to say his name in

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case he in case he doesn't want
to be talked about.

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Such a good, smart dude.
And I buy and I see that

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Jonathan Sacks publish this
book.

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I think I was a junior senior in
college and I bought the book

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and I'm reading it and I bought
it came out the beginning of the

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year, just around the time of
the High holidays around Rosh

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Hashanah and Yom Kippur.
And I've and it's called Not in

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God's Name.
And I get it and I'm reading it

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and my friend walks up to me and
he goes, hey, man, he goes, you

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know, that book was not written
for you.

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That book was written to be, you
know, to be, to be dropped by

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airplanes, you know, parachuted
into into Lebanon and Iran and

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Iraq is what he said to me.
And I hate to say it, we need to

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drop a couple of these copies
into a couple of people's houses

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and in the Israeli government,
for God's sake.

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And we need to say that there
are.

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Right now, we're in Lebanon,
we're in Iran, we're talking

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about Turkey, we're talking
about.

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What, what is going on right
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We just, we, we just finished
two years with, with, with, with

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Gaza, with Gaza and with Lebanon
and Hezbollah.

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And I know soldiers and families
and, and, and, and people that

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have been separated from their
kids for, for weeks or months

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or, and, and kids that are dead
Jews.

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I mean, and, and forget, I mean,
the amount of civilians that

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have just been killed overall
and the amount of trauma that

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everyone has that the entire
world has.

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There's no appetite for this.
And who are the leaders?

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Who are the people that where?
Where are the the people like

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Rabbi Jonathan Sacks?
Where are the people like the La

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Bava Cheruba, the people around
the world, whether you're, you

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know, all leaders from around
the world would go to him for,

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for words of guidance and wisdom
and education.

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And they would start initiatives
to, to, to, to, for, for, for

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education and to help people
that were in need and to pick

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people up in the community and,
and widows and divorcees and,

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and freaking everything.
And instead we're in place with

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Barry Weiss and and Rabbi
Schmully going on freaking Piers

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Morgan and just making a more
out of himself and out of all

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Orthodox Jews.
It's terrible.

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I even feel bad about yelling
about those people, by the way,

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because I think it's very clear
that I'm not talking about, I'm

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talking about very specific
people.

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I'm talking about very few
specific people that the problem

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is that right now, I've heard
conversations on Julian Dory's

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podcast, on Tucker Carlson's
podcast, on Danny Jones podcast

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on, I mean, the amount of the I
on, on freaking breaking points,

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right?
The amount of rhetoric that's

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going on about the Jewish
religion that is being spread by

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people that have absolutely no
business in this world

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representing the Jewish people
and the Jewish faith is

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astounding, is absolutely
astounding.

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I cannot believe how many people
are going around.

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I mean, you, I I was listening
to this Tucker Carlson with I

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was listening to Tucker Carlson.
Yeah, I know.

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Took roles and hates Jews.
No, he doesn't.

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He freaking doesn't like the
Israeli government for all the

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wars getting us in that that
that they've gotten us into.

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And you know what?
He doesn't talk about the Jewish

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religion very much.
And if he does, it's going to be

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fundamentally flawed because
he's fighting with more on the

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garbage Molly.
So he's not getting the right

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picture, right.
So he's having this conversation

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with his jiu Jing.
Joaquin Joaquin, this Chinese

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professor that's been going
around, he's all over so he's

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all over podcasts and social
media lately talking about the

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rebuilding the third temple.
The that Israel might, you know,

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that someone might Israel or
Iran or anyone might

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accidentally destroy the AL
Moxcom mosque mosque and that's

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going to sperm a rebuilding of
the third temple.

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And I am here to say that the
people that are trying to

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rebuild the third Temple are not
the people that should be

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rebuilding the third temple.
Please go fix your own home

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before you go and try to fix the
rest of the world.

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Deal with whatever you got going
on in your own life.

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Go pick up a book, pick up a sit
down, learn with the rabbi for a

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couple of minutes a day for
God's sake.

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Get an understanding of what the
Jewish perspective and ideology

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is about before you go ahead and
start talking about how you are

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presenting all of us around the
world.

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Because you're not.
You're not.

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You're not.
You're not, you're not.

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Yes, we pray every day for 1/3
temple.

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We pray every day to be
redeemed.

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We don't pray that it comes like
this.

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We don't pray for war.
We don't.

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You don't pray.
We don't pray to try and

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sabotage and blackmail and bully
and play ridiculous woke social

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media tactics and then leave an
entire power vacuum or education

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vacuum or information vacuum for
a bunch of morons to come in and

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fill in.
Where are the, there's so many

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intelligent Orthodox teachers
and Orthodox teacher, Orthodox

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lawyers and doctors and writers
and people in Hollywood.

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And like, there are so many
wonderful people that are so

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afraid to speak because they
have this mentality that if you

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turn that if you say anything
against the government of Israel

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that you're betraying the Jewish
people.

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You're not.
Why does that apply to why?

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Why can I criticize Trump and
love the country?

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Why can't I criticize Joe Biden
and love the country and love

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the values that America stands
for?

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But I can't criticize Bibi
Netanyahu and say, hey, if I'm

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an Orthodox Jew, I want Orthodox
Jewish values.

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This doesn't look like Orthodox
Jewish values to me.

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Why can't I say that?
We're in a passive society.

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We're in a super passive
society.

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I was, this happened to myself.
This happened to myself.

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I, I was driving a couple of
years ago back from Orlando.

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I've I've said this, I've said
the story in the podcast before,

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but I'm driving back home with
my family from my, my wife.

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And at the time, I only had one
kid back from Orlando to South

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Florida.
And we're pulling over for some

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gas and we see that and I, and I
and I'm, I'm getting gas and,

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you know, my wife's in the car,
my kids in the car.

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And I hear and I see that pulled
over by the by, I guess where

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the press, the coffee shop and
convenient shop is there's a

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woman that is fighting or
arguing with this guy with her,

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00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,280
I guess boyfriend or husband or
whatever, kids in the car.

450
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,080
And she's telling like, let me
like let me have and let me out,

451
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,120
let me out.
And my heart stops because I'm

452
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:30,720
afraid of confrontation.
I'm afraid of everything.

453
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,120
And I and someone's like someone
please help.

454
00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:36,080
She literally said that just
like someone please help.

455
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,200
And this is one of these, you
know, if you've ever done the

456
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,160
drive from Orlando to South
Florida, you basically have one

457
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,200
highway, the one or two highways
that you can take.

458
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,320
And there's only, and there's
like rest stops every bunch of

459
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,440
miles.
So they tend to be pretty

460
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,400
packed, pretty dense because
there's only a few of them.

461
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,320
So if you ever want to stop to
go to the bathroom, there's only

462
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,280
two or three, you know, or get a
coffee or whatever, take a

463
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,880
break.
There's only charge of Tesla.

464
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,440
There's only a couple of spots
that you could that you could

465
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:09,680
potentially, potentially go to.
And so it's pretty packed and no

466
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,880
one moved.
No one even looked at her.

467
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,440
Like people were like afraid to
respond to this woman that was

468
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,480
with like a child in the back
seat and say anything.

469
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,160
And I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not a hero.

470
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,760
I'm a wimp.
I didn't take any jujitsu

471
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,240
classes yet.
And I just said, but I'm a six.

472
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,760
I'm 6, four, 200 lbs.
And I walk over.

473
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,040
I start walking over, just take
a couple of steps over.

474
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,720
I'm like, hey, are you OK?
Can I, you know, can I help you

475
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,280
with anything?
And someone says, yeah, he's not

476
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,480
letting me go.
And the guy goes, OK, you can

477
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,680
go, you stupid, you know,
whatever calls her name.

478
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,040
And and I'm like, do you need
help getting your stuff?

479
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,720
She's like, yeah, He's like, you
know, he's not opening the

480
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,840
trunk.
He's not letting me get my stuff

481
00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,880
out.
He's not letting me get my get,

482
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:08,720
not let me get my kid out.
And then I went over and I said

483
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,640
here, let me help you.
Take your.

484
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,680
He goes, fine, you could take,
you could take your stuff, take

485
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,360
your shit.
Get out of here.

486
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,880
I don't want you.
I don't want to see you anyway,

487
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,880
you psycho.
And so I went over and I went to

488
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,760
try to help her out and I and I
don't remember.

489
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,440
I was I was dumb as hell.
I shouldn't have done it because

490
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,320
I can get like shot and had my
own kid in the car.

491
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,800
But I, I, I put my hand in his
car to help him to help her take

492
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,640
her bag out.
He's like, hey man, don't touch

493
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,200
my car.
So I just walked away.

494
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,280
I just walked away and she was
fine.

495
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,400
And she's like, OK, I'm going to
get a I didn't walk away before

496
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,480
she she said, OK, I'm fine.
I'll just grab a bus from here.

497
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,920
The bus comes every X amount of
time.

498
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,280
I've done this before.
I think, OK, that's great.

499
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,560
And I walked away.
No one did anything.

500
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,680
We live in a world that's
extremely, extremely passive.

501
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600
And the problem is I think we're
we're missing out on leadership.

502
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,680
We're missing out on voices.
We're missing out on people

503
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:03,520
speaking out.
And you've got to start doing

504
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,440
that.
And we have to make it very

505
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,200
clear that we're not speaking
out against Jews.

506
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,960
We're not speaking out against
the land of Israel or the people

507
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,240
in Israel.
We're speaking about the way

508
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,400
that we're being represented.
I think it's a fair thing to say

509
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,760
considering that we're on the
verge of World War Three and I

510
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,000
think that there is no game plan
with Iran and the game plan is

511
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,320
chaos.
It's not good for anyone.

512
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:41,680
It's not good for anyone.
And I want to be sober about

513
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,120
this.
I want to be cool headed about

514
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,720
this.
I want to look to ancient wisdom

515
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,360
words that we say every day
before that I say every day of

516
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:59,000
my life, it's truth and I live
my life with God's values.

517
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,600
And if I see people that are
claiming to live their lives

518
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,680
with my values, and one of the
best strategies that Israel did,

519
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,800
that Israel has, and it works in
beautiful ways sometimes and

520
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,280
it's really harmful some ways,
is they claim that they

521
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,800
represent all Jews around the
world because of the Jewish

522
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,160
homeland.
But when you do that, I mean,

523
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:30,600
you don't consult with us before
you go ahead and blatantly bully

524
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:37,720
American politicians, before you
go ahead and blatantly get into

525
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,000
more wars than your people even
necessarily want.

526
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,600
I mean, I don't know.
Is it true that allegedly the

527
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,600
Ayatollah had a religious
doctrine against developing A

528
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,480
nuke?
I mean, I look up the source I

529
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:58,680
posted in the post in the show
note captions, and you want to

530
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,160
say you don't believe them.
OK, That's that's that's that's

531
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,280
fair.
I hear you.

532
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,840
We have intelligence for a
reason.

533
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,480
We have, you know, we have spies
and we have to protect ourselves

534
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,080
and we have to, we have to, you
know, know what's going on.

535
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,840
And information is valuable,
absolutely.

536
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,920
But, you know, you got to give
us some reasons to trust you.

537
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,440
You know, I think trust is
something that's earned and not

538
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,040
something that's given.
And Bibi Netanyahu is about to

539
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:32,400
be thrown out of office before
October 7th, and since then has

540
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,760
become the face of Jews.
And is that why that's so

541
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,680
disappointing?
That's so disappointing.

542
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,600
He's not, he's not the, he's not
my face, man.

543
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,000
He's not the face of my, he's
not the face of my, of my

544
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,240
homeland.
He's not the face of my

545
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,960
religious homeland.
And now we're getting lumped in.

546
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,160
And I don't want to grow up in
an America where I have to hide

547
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,640
the fact that my name is, is
Hirshman.

548
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,440
When I love America, I love this
world, society.

549
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,120
I, I, I, I love, I love living
here.

550
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,920
And I've contributed to this, to
this world my whole life.

551
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,600
And I teach and I have the
podcast and, and I, I paid taxes

552
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,600
and I own a home in Florida.
I've owned two homes in Florida

553
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,680
and I've lived.
I, I, I mean, I've driven across

554
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,920
the country bunch of times and
gone to know the people.

555
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,000
And I know this, I've been to
more than half the States and I,

556
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,600
I freaking love this place.
I want this place to do, I want

557
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,360
this place to do great.
I want everyone to do well.

558
00:32:33,130 --> 00:32:36,050
Bibi Netanyahu is not going to
build a third base on Niktosh is

559
00:32:36,050 --> 00:32:37,290
not going to build a third
temple.

560
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,640
Millions of people are getting
the wrong impressions because of

561
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,200
the wrong voices that are
speaking up.

562
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,040
And the right voices have to
start speaking up.

563
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,720
It's really, really, really
important when we start looking

564
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,080
inward and we have to start
understanding, just start

565
00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:00,960
remembering that, you know, God,
God tells the Jewish people

566
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,360
like, hey, you got to walk in my
ways in order if you want, if

567
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,320
you want to live in the land and
you got to walk in my ways.

568
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,320
And you got to do things and you
got to do things the way that,

569
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:15,240
that, that, that I tell you.
And if you ever want to get

570
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,640
back, you know, we're in, we're
in exile for a reason.

571
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,360
We're in exile for a reason.
We have something that we need

572
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:30,000
to resolve amongst ourselves.
We have something that we need

573
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,080
to resolve amongst ourselves.
We have to understand what the

574
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,480
philosophy of Adam is and we
have to counter it.

575
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,880
And for the record, from a
religious level, this is not

576
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Galot Ishmael.
Ishmael is a biblical term for

577
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,440
the Muslims and Arabs.
There is no, there's no exile of

578
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,760
the, of the Muslims and Arabs,
Jews and Arabs and Muslims, Jews

579
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,480
and Arabs got along for
thousands of years.

580
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,920
The Rambam Maimonides had
tremendous, tremendous respect,

581
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,040
as did great scholars like the
Ibanezra.

582
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,600
It's Farnum.
I mean, the, the some of some of

583
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,159
the Middle Eastern obey him,
the, the, the Middle Eastern

584
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,800
obey him that grew up that, that
lived in the Muslim world.

585
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,520
They didn't look at that, you
know, they they they knew the

586
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,360
exile that we were in wasn't
wasn't the exile again.

587
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,760
I mean, it's AI mean
unfortunate.

588
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,360
And so the people that are
saying that we're going to

589
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,239
rebuild the third Temple by
bombing a bunch of Muslim

590
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:38,000
countries is completely ignoring
the fact that we're not in the

591
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,080
exile of the Muslims of the
Arabs.

592
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,560
You know, we don't know who our
enemies are right now, but we

593
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,679
know it's not them.
And, you know, are there people

594
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:48,719
that don't like us?
Yeah.

595
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Does that mean OK.
You know, I mean, to what

596
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,800
extent, to what degree we have a
standing army.

597
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,920
They were a pretty safe country.
Israel doesn't, you know, until

598
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,600
this war, Israel hasn't gotten
AI mean, you know, I mean, we're

599
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,120
getting hit in Jerusalem.
We're getting hidden in Rehovot,

600
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,280
we're getting hit in Bechemish.
Like for what?

601
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,120
And by the way, maybe I'm wrong,
maybe and and and maybe maybe

602
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,360
someone does know better than
me.

603
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:23,480
And I would love for someone to
come on and someone to come on

604
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,520
the podcast and talk with me
about this and maybe explain to

605
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:33,680
me that what, what I'm missing.
Maybe I got it all wrong, but I

606
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,040
don't, I don't know.
I don't know.

607
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,280
I don't think I do.
This conversation is really hard

608
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:46,200
to have.
But I think that if I can just

609
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,600
summarize the basic points #1
the exile that we're in is not

610
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,720
an exile of the Arabs and the
Muslims.

611
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:56,560
It's an exile of Adam.
Don't take our eye off the bat,

612
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:03,240
off the ball, don't focus on the
wrong thing #2 the people that

613
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,480
are running the state of Israel
and the current people that are

614
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,360
the voices of the Jewish people
and even of the Orthodox

615
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:14,920
community are not the people
that should be.

616
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,960
And the Jewish representation
has a responsibility to do a

617
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,440
better job with that.
The fact that Brett Weinstein is

618
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,760
the only one.
I mean, Brett Weinstein was on

619
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Danny Jones podcast the other
day and he's a very sober minded

620
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,040
person too.
He's that's not true.

621
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,440
He's very he's a little alarmist
for me, but he's been right

622
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,240
about a lot.
So as far as I'm concerned, he

623
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:44,040
has a lot of he has some
credentials.

624
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,600
And yeah, he's a little he like
he does look at a lot of things

625
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,120
like catastrophe.
One thing that he talked about

626
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:58,880
in Danny Jones podcast was, you
know, that he's his

627
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,040
understanding that the Orthodox
community wants this religious

628
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,200
battle.
It does not.

629
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,040
It does not.
And him thinking that and saying

630
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,560
that the Orthodox is the danger
right now is that the Orthodox

631
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,800
reputation is getting clipped in
the process.

632
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,320
The Orthodox reputation is
peaceful.

633
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:24,440
The Orthodox population says we
need rabbinical permission to go

634
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:30,320
to war.
It has to be a war of

635
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,880
self-defense.
What does that constitute?

636
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,840
I don't know, but I certainly
know that the people that are

637
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,960
making the decisions aren't
really asking the scholars.

638
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Man, I'm going to try to listen
back to this.

639
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,600
I hope this is publishable.
Goodnight everyone.