#153: Dalton Lauer / Newlywed Life / Finding Purpose and Self / Post Capitalism / Self Expression

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Welcome to another episode of
Come Together.

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We're live with a newly married
Mr. Dalton Lauer.

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Lauer.
Yeah, for sure.

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Newly married Mr. and Miss
Lauer.

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Dude, I saw, I saw a change.
Instagram handle.

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That's how you know you made it.
D That's how you know you made

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it.
And it feels good.

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It's crazy.
It's crazy.

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Wedding year honeymoon in Hawaii
where it all started.

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Back to where it all began.
That's that's that was the best

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part of it all.
How was a pre wedding jitters?

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How?
You engaged for years right?

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A couple years.
We got engaged on the leap.

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The last leap year was February
29.

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That's cool. 24 Yeah, We were
engaged almost two years and

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then got the.
Man, dude, isn't it crazy?

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2024 was two years ago.
I'm looking at like news stories

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from 2024.
I'm like, that happened like

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last month, dude.
I I say ever since COVID time,

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just like moves double the pace.
It's crazy.

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It does.
But yeah, the leading up to the

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wedding was, I'm sure just like
most people, it's stressful.

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There's a lot of planning as as
a man I'm trying to do play my

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part in helping make decisions,
when in reality to me it's like

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every little decision.
Did you, were you, were you

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picky about the about the
decision making?

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No, and that's where I fell
short was like to me when I get

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asked for help, it's like, well,
what's the problem?

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Yeah, the least resistance here,
like let's just make it easy.

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And I like to just enjoy in the
moment and no matter what it was

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whether the napkins were gold or
black or little decisions, just

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to me it was like let's just
make one instead of pondering

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over it for too long.
But everything went good.

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I mean leading up to it.
My wife, now she.

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How's that feel to say it?
Feels great.

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You're a cigar, the same man as
your ring, dude.

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I.
Feel like a man now I feel like

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I'm the next phase is when the
kid comes then I'll feel like

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even more of a man.
Dude, you're going to be so

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tired.
Let's see how they feel.

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It'll be good.
We'll be tired for a while.

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It's going to be a huge shift.
That's why we're starting with

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the dog.
Yeah, it's great.

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You know what I heard someone
doing that.

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Well when you finish telling
telling me about your your

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prepping.
Yeah, so leading up to it, it

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wasn't really that bad because I
think her and I were both very

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like.
Was that laid back?

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She's also laid back.
She's very laid back, so I don't

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feel like there was ever a
moment where it was like the

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wedding at the bridezilla, yeah,
or groomzilla or anything like

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that.
And so her mom was a huge help

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in getting things scheduled as
well.

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And she's very good.
Like, I work closely with her

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with real estate stuff.
She's very coordinated.

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Her Val was like taking charge
on a lot of things.

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And I was kind of given the
thumbs up, like, OK, I'm good

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with all of this.
Yeah.

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And then yeah, the wedding
couldn't have gone anymore

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perfect leading up to it.
Dude, we thought checking the

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weather was going to rain every
day.

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Stress yourself out about that
stuff, OK?

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And it was planned to be
outdoors.

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And we weren't going to do a
tent because if they wanted to

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charge an arm and a leg for a
tent and at the end we got the

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10, thank God we did because it
really just like shedded that.

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Yeah, anxiety.
Anxiety exactly of you know if

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it does rain.
It's insurance dude, it just

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makes you feel better.
If it doesn't rain, we still

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have a brilliant ambience setup
where it really captured in a

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moment.
Yeah, I love it.

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Dude, that the wedding
coordinator, she's a little

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rough around the edges, but she
got people where they need to

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be.
You have to, by the way, Yeah,

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because like everyone's having
their like, first experience

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wedding or like, you know,
marrying up my kid.

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I'm so excited and like,
someone's got to be that like

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that voice of reason that, like
propels things.

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Not even voice of reason, but
like that, that thing that just

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pushes everything forward.
Yeah, you need a bad guy like.

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Because somebody's got to do.
It and honestly, that's what

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they're paid for.
They're paid to be the bad guy

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and just be like, listen, like I
know you want to do this, but

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like if you want any shit to get
done, like, you know, you got to

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make this, you go do XY and Z.
And so it all fell together

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perfectly the day up.
And what was really cool about

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it was because we were doing it
at a resort and a lot of people

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were coming from all over the
place.

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Instead of just having one night
where just like it goes by so

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fast, We had Friday, we had a
rehearsal dinner.

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We're all down there.
What's?

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Your rehearsal dinner, like
ours, We don't have one.

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And she's don't do that.
Really.

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Really.
Yeah.

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It was honestly, it was just
like having a nice dinner with

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your like closest friends and
family, the ones that you know

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you see the most.
And so it it all worked out in

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Val's favor because she loves
the keys.

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It was always a dream of hers to
get married there.

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However, when we started
planning, it wasn't going to

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work out.
Everything was too expensive

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down there and she's always,
once we picked the venue there,

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it was like, wow.
That means we can also do the

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rehearsal dinner at Lazy Days,
which if you ever go down to the

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Keys, I highly recommend going
lazy.

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Days.
It's so good.

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You can sit out on the water and
get really good margaritas.

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They have really good blackened
mahi mahi.

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You mix that with a salad really
good.

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So we did the rehearsal there
and we, we were so fortunate

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because we were going to have it
in like a little room where

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pretty much is like overlooking
the parking lot.

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You see a little bit of the
water.

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And as we're setting things up
with the guy, the venue, he's

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like, oh, I thought we had put
you guys down at this other

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spot, which is right on the
beach, and it would have been

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double the price.
And we're like, oh, no, we we

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were in the other spot.
He's like, know what, I'll put

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you there.
Anyway.

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Yeah, for for the same price I.
Was like, well, you booked it

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anyway, right?
Yeah, as well.

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So it worked out and it, you
know, having all of our family

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there, a lot of people flying
in, there was some headaches,

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like literally might.
So get this, my grandparents are

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driving down from Pennsylvania
just about they don't know every

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everybody else is flying.
Yeah, but because they're

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driving, everyone's like, well,
let's not Max out our luggage

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for the weekend.
We'll just.

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Yeah, pack it up with that.
My mom's dress, her boyfriend's

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dress, my brother's suit.
I mean my brother who has the

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ring bearer son, his suit.
Everything's in my grandpa's

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truck and they break down on the
way.

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No way.
Where do they break down like

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early or like?
I think about halfway and

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everyone's freaking out and, and
so at this point it's like

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they're probably not going to
make to the rehearsal dinner on

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time.
We don't care.

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I mean, as long as they show up
for the wedding, because they

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have so many people's stuff,
they made it.

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They made it on time.
They made it to the rehearsal by

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the skin of their teeth.
So funny what they has to do.

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They got the car fixed to the.
Yeah, it was.

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No, they got it fixed.
They took it straight to the

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shop.
The guy figured out it was a

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smaller issue than they had
expected, and so that worked out

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and it was beautiful.
The weather held off the next

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day Then was Saturday, and we
couldn't do a welcome party at

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the rehearse at the venue
because they would have charged

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us for upholding the space or we
kind of put it out there like,

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hey, everybody show up to the
pool area.

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This.
Time you.

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Know and we pretty much took
over the.

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Pool.
The the resort itself is, was

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really, it's a big resort, but
at the same time, it feels like,

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like you can get around
everywhere quickly.

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And I think there was only like
us and another wedding party

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there.
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So we like had this whole resort
to like so much fun, all of our

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friends and family.
The weekend was a blast.

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And then leading up to the
wedding by this time.

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Wedding was Sunday, Monday.
The wedding ended up being on

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Sunday, Sunday, and by then we
had gotten to say like, like

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catch up with everyone we hadn't
seen in a while.

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Some of my military friends I
haven't seen in 7-8 years, and

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they were coming out to this
people who were there from when

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we met in Hawaii.
That's cool.

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They're like coming.
To they came in for the wedding

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they.
Came in for the wedding.

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It's so nice.
My buddy who was deployed came

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back the day before, literally
landed and a couple hours later

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had his stuff packed and flew
out to Florida.

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Wow.
Meanwhile, his wife, who he

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hasn't seen in a while, his one
year old who just turned one in

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California waiting for him to
come back.

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And so like the the way people
moved to mountains to be there

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really meant a lot to us and and
showed us like a lot of good

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people in our lives.
That's incredible, man.

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And to then have the perfect
wedding.

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Beautiful night, tons of fun.
And then two days later, because

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we, we packed up, went home, and
then on Saint Patrick's Day,

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just two days later, it was the
day we were flying to Hawaii.

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Yeah.
Back to where it all began.

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Crazy.
And that alone was.

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So very emotional, right?
Yeah, I honestly riding that, it

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felt like a 3 1/2 weeks of just
like riding the best high of my

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life.
You know, everything was like

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there was a permanent smile on
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Crazy point where you get back
and you're like a little bit

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down.
You know, you're like, Dang,

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back to reality.
Yeah, it's great.

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Yeah, man, so funny.
Have you been to Hawaii?

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Once when I was a kid, OK, I was
like 10 or 11.

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Wine style shirt on today.
Oh yeah, dude.

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Oh yeah, I used to wear these
all the time.

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I love it.
My dad's a tiny Bahama nut.

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Yeah, dude, he is like like
literally walks in.

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He's a, he's a sickness, I
think.

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But like he, he walks in.
I remember like we, my dad

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always ran his own business.
So like like everything in life,

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like sometimes things were
better.

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Sometimes things were, you know,
a little tighter and like you

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just like walk in one day with
like a rack of shirt of tiger

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Amish shirts and like 13
different colour like, you know,

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flower, like, you know, Parrot
head shirts and like what is

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going on?
Like like what is like did he?

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I thought this was like a mafia
deal or something like that.

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Like he's like trading favors,
but like you're actually not

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exactly buying a bunk or you got
off a truck or something like

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that.
I don't respect that.

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Because, you know, you like
something, dude.

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Why?
Why wait, dude?

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Because half the time I'm like,
I should have just bought more

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of this same style of clothes
instead of having my wardrobe,

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all these random things and then
I never wear half them anyway.

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Yeah, yeah.
If you like Tommy, Bahamas

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stick.
Dude, yeah, but I grew out of it

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for a little bit.
I was.

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It was a different point in my
life.

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Some of your dad's telling me
Bahama and come to Hawaii.

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Yeah, it is.
If there's one place I could

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recommend to anybody, it would
be Hawaii.

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Go go see it because it's, it's
not just a beautiful place in

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the middle of nowhere.
It is something I feel like if

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you go there and absorb the the
nature, the land, the culture,

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you can learn a lot and kind of
have a well.

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It's not really American, right?
Like, I mean, it's not an

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American territory, Yeah.
But it's, you know, they follow.

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There's, it's very Americanized,
depending where you go.

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So we went to Oahu, kawaii and
Maui, and one of them really

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captured our heart.
Yeah.

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And it was kawaii.
I've been, Yeah, I've been

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there.
You have?

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Yeah.
Hawaii and Maui in two way too.

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So Oahu's where we met.
It's, it's great because you can

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find anything to do.
They have city, they have

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mountains and nature, beaches
all around.

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Like a lot.
Of how big is the island?

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Like big enough that you could
like.

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You can all drive around all of
them in a day.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The main island, Hawaii, Kona,

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yeah, that's the biggest island.
That one we haven't been to.

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Yeah.
Funny enough, our dog, which

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we're getting on Sunday.
From Kona.

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We're naming it.
Nice.

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We're naming it Kona, but
there's another story behind

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that.
The beer.

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It's the beer.
I do it.

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There's Kona Brewery, which we
was one of our favorite like

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date nights we would have when
we were in Hawaii.

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The the brewery was there in
Where was the brewery?

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The brewery?
Yeah.

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Where was it?
Which?

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Which?
It's in Oahu, OK.

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They might have it on different
islands, I'm not sure.

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But when you go there, they have
like, Kona coffee.

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They have Maui coffee.
Yeah.

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Maui brewery, Sweet.
It's like every island has their

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brewery.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

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So Oahu is where we had a lot of
our memories and, and our the

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first couple days of our trip,
we started there, kind of

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revisited a lot of the good
restaurants and food and things

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that we had already done.
And then Kauai was meant to be

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like our adventurous island.
We knew it was a lot more land.

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Yeah.
Underdeveloped, more

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sightseeing.
Yeah.

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More authentic.
Yeah.

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Probably to the culture and age.
Yeah, for sure.

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And then Maui was supposed to be
where we kind of hung out and

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relaxed, tapered off of our
honeymoon.

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That's like more like Miami,
like the beach, like commercial,

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like touristy, kind of live,
right?

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And it felt like that it felt
very resorty.

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Yeah.
It didn't feel like it had that,

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like, you know, that Aloha.
Yeah.

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It felt like to be honest, a lot
of money goes there and I'm sure

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builds and it seems like it
pushes the locals out.

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That's don't get me wrong, Maui
has beautiful.

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And we'll have some of our
favorite memories there as well.

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But if we had to pick one island
to go to, it would be Kawaii.

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The reason being is just like,
First off, we stayed at a hotel

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in the city in Oahu.
That's cool, which is really

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cool.
You can go around and walk to a

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lot of cool places.
Waikiki Beach is right there.

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The famous Waikiki Beach.
What's famous about it I never

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heard of?
It I think it's just, it's the

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beach that's right there in the
city.

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And so the most amount of like,
attraction.

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Yeah, it's beautiful.
I I think they landscape it like

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a lot.
That's cool.

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Keep it.
And then you see you could run

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into Adam Sandler, Cardi B, like
any celebrity, you might just

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pass on Waikiki Beach, Kawaii.
All the beaches I feel like are

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very secluded.
Like you can, there's so many

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beaches as you're just driving
around.

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You could pull off anywhere and
stop.

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And there's a almost like a
private beach where it's not a

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lot of people, beautiful views.
And then you drive another 5-10

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minutes up the road, pull off at
another beach.

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And that's exactly what we did.
So we landed at Kauai like 8 in

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the morning.
We got there so early and the

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Airbnb check insurance at 4:00
PM Yeah, we got all day.

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It's like an hour and a half N
from the airport.

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What do we do all day?
Right.

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So we figured we're kind of
tired because it was an early

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flight.
We set up late night at 4:00.

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So let's just go hit a beach and
hang out there.

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We'll kind of kill time as we
move N towards Airbnb first

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beach.
We How you?

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Getting around you rent a car.
We had a rental car.

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Yeah, we got a rental car and
the first beach we stopped at,

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we pass out.
It was it was great.

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And we wake up probably 20
minutes later, which is a scary

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thing because in Hawaii you get
burnt easily.

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We didn't put sunscreen on.
The sun is just different there.

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Like someone from North coming
to Florida.

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And they cry so.
We pass out and she wakes me up

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so that she wakes me up because
we we both kind of wake up to

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the rain starting to like drip
down on us like Oh my God, how

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long have we been passed out
checking our skin to see if

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we're.
Yeah, OK.

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Yeah.
And we're like, oh, it must not

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have been that long.
And it was just like, they call

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them pineapple showers because
it's just like, yeah, I guess

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you guys are in Hawaii.
And it's these quick showers.

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Like, yeah, it clears up so fast
after by the time we went to the

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car, find out where we're going
to go next, 10 minutes up north,

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we're going to grab a bite to
eat.

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Well, it already stopped raining
by the time we got there.

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So we grabbed something quick
and went straight back to the

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beach and just hung out at
another beach and.

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I have the patience to sit on
beaches dude.

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It drives me.
Crazy.

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We love it.
Dude I have to work on that all

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myself.
I have a hard time sitting still

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for like anything.
OK.

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So, and that's why I think it's
so beneficial to go to these

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places for people who are living
in a city or yeah, yeah, you're,

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you're, you're living a busy
life.

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It's fast-paced and around a lot
of people.

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And then you go somewhere like
that.

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And it is it can be
uncomfortable at first because

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you sit down and there's just
nothing but nature and not a lot

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of people.
And you might not even have cell

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service.
So you're like, I can't doom

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scroll?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I'm not worried about the
doom scrolling, you know?

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But anything to, like keep you
busy, like compared to there.

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And what I think it is is that
the nature's just always kind of

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moving.
So if you sit still and it kind

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of tunes you back into your
senses, which takes you out of

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that like hyperactive mindset.
Yeah, that's a good way of

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describing it.
Slows things down.

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You kind of like, have to listen
to the birds and the trees

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ruffling.
Yeah.

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Take time to smell.
OK.

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Like you.
The air is different here.

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Yeah.
It feels wet.

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It feels fragrant with the
flowers.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
And as you kind of sit and dwell

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on that, I don't know, I just.
Think yeah, for sure.

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You definitely.
Can can slow down and find that

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piece.
So that's why personally I love

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Kauai because you've got the
most amount of that there and

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it's just beautiful, man.
But.

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You go to the beach all the time
here, dude.

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You spend most you spend.
You're always at the Hollywood

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Beach or Florida.
Beach, right.

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We why?
We're 10 minutes from the beach,

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just a straight shot.
So for us it's easy.

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I don't know how to be when we
move to a different location and

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yeah, and we're a little, it's
more of a hassle to get to the

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beach, but for most you have.
A pool.

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You have a pool, it's in the
backyard.

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And that's another thing, once
we get a pool, it might be game

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over because for us, as long as
our outdoors soaking up some

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sun, the water's there to cool
us off.

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But I don't mean there's nothing
like the beach.

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It's.
It really is, by the way.

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There's something, there's
something spiritual about it

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too.
There's something like very

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like, very primal about like,
like the horizon ocean, you

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know, sand, just like the
feeling of that going on

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forever.
Yeah, You know, I think that's a

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good way to put it.
Even the the spiritual side of

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it, maybe not everybody picks up
on that unless they are really

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attuned to that's their
spiritual side.

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But I think for me personally,
that's that's another.

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Thing I mean, people feel it.
I think that people feel it,

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that it's just a subconscious
appreciation.

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Like when you're like, for some
reason I feel rejuvenated when I

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walk away from the beach.
Like I feel like I kind of like

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stand to like live life like
another couple of days, you

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know, like, exactly like that,
like that, that is.

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Like the grounding, right?
For sure.

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Like just having your toes in
warm sand and being connected to

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Mother Nature.
Yeah.

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The the ocean, like it all just
brings you back to your senses,

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you know?
Yeah, yeah, it's really

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interesting, man.
It's really interesting.

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I I, I, I'm, I'm really curious
to see as you progress like in

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the in like these because you're
going, you're going through a

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lot like right now is rapid
change and then like dogs are

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rapid change and you know, it's
God's help kids whenever that

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happens, it's it's a crazy
change.

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And like, and you, I think you
start to, for me, there was like

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this really crazy shift where in
my perception of life where

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instead of me feeling like
there's supposed to be something

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I'm supposed to be doing,
there's like, I don't feel

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responsible for almost anything
except for like the well-being

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of my family, you know, and like
everything else, like I kind of

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figure out how to make that work
for them.

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But I don't think that.
That mindset can happen without

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something like taking on the
responsibility of, you know, a

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spouse or a pet or a kid,
because I think that forces your

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brain to evolve.
I think it force.

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I think it forces your
priorities to shift.

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I think it force.
And like a lot of people when

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they do like I I one thing that
I've noticed speaking to a lot

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of cool and crazy people and
even listening to a lot of

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people talk like one thing that
everyone has in common is that

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the people that have done the
most interesting things and the

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most like furthered humanity are
people that do not look.

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much.
Look at life like a system that

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they have to figure out a play,
but a series of games that they

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can choose to play and you can
kind of take yourself in and out

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of each one of them.
You know, like the way I, the

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way I thought of the example I
thought of was, you know, no,

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like you can't control the hand
you're dealt, but you could

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control what game you're
playing.

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With that hand, right?
I love that you say that because

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recently I had some I had heard
someone relate life to a game of

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poker like and and it's so true
because you can't control the

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hand you're dealt where you can
control how you play that hand

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right and just because you're
dealt.

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But I'm saying 1 even further,
I'm saying who's to tell you

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that that that that hand is bad?
It depends what game you, you

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your game, what table you want
to sit down at.

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Yeah, if you want to play poker,
that might not be a good hand to

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gamble with.
But if you want to play

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blackjack, that might be a much
better hand.

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Yeah.
And so I think that most people

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feel like they have to play one
game in in this world.

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And in reality, there's a whole
a bunch of different games to

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play, you know, there's a whole
bunch of different lifestyles to

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live and ways to live and
communities to live with, to

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check out and like experiences
to have in industries that like,

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I think people, you know, and
people are afraid that a lot of

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the very typical glorified type
of white collar fancy tech jobs

451
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,040
that that have been so valued in
the past or losing value

452
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,720
tremendously.
And like people don't know where

453
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,480
to turn to now.
Like kind of feels like there's

454
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,840
a collapse in like, but what do
like the elite, the more elite

455
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,400
educated class of people do now
that their that their specialty

456
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,200
feels like it's useless.
You know I.

457
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,880
Like where you're going with
that?

458
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,600
I think there's a couple things
that hit on there.

459
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,120
The the shift, the mindset
shift.

460
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:46,640
You have the family now.
It's like, OK, things totally

461
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,840
change and I have to really
focus, focus on my family.

462
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,080
You focus on your job or like
close that deal.

463
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,320
You focus like making sure your
kids OK, you know, like.

464
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,440
The reason?
The why behind it?

465
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,880
Shifts.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

466
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,040
But I don't think that is
necessarily true to everybody.

467
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,720
I I know people who who have
kids and they're still kind of

468
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,920
living in an immature oh, I hear
you style.

469
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,520
And so I'm curious like.
For.

470
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,240
You do you feel like, what do
you think actually led to that?

471
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,520
Because it's not that.
It's not.

472
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,720
But do you feel like you had to
reflect?

473
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,840
Yeah, no, dude, it's all
religious.

474
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,520
Decisions.
Or do you feel like it was who

475
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,800
you were around?
No, it's all religion.

476
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,840
It was your religion.
It was religion for sure.

477
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,160
Yeah.
It was religion, it.

478
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,320
Gives you a good framework.
It gives me that's right, that's

479
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,720
right, that's.
Right, you to really embody that

480
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,960
right and, and carry that with
you, which is where not

481
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,440
everybody's able to do that.
I, I know people who are even in

482
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,720
my past calling myself a
Christian, I wasn't always

483
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,200
living that way.
And it was when I had a kind of

484
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,520
a change with my faith that I
feel like I became more

485
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,680
internally aware and and focused
on like my household.

486
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,720
But you know why?
I bet it's because you made that

487
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,880
like you made it yours, like the
religion that you and I think

488
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,840
everyone has to experience.
Everyone that is like really

489
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:13,040
strong and intentional and deep
in their faith as they get

490
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,120
older, almost has to deviate a
little bit from the way that

491
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:18,880
they grew up because that was
given to them.

492
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,600
And then a lot of times what
makes it connect to you is that

493
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,240
it becomes your own identity and
becomes your own relationship

494
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,400
today.
And so like you're.

495
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,520
Parenting yourself like you just
kind of have to go back.

496
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,440
That's right.
That's right.

497
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,120
Somewhere along the lines, you
know you have to question

498
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,080
everything you believe and
everything that makes you who

499
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,400
you are.
That was.

500
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,560
Or at least.
Question where, where?

501
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,080
Where is it coming from?
Did you?

502
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,000
For me, it was a big.
You mentioned that about a

503
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,600
couple of times when we, when we
spoke in the past, you know, and

504
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,040
each time we, you know, you were
at a different phase as, as, as

505
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,120
to like where you like we're at.
It's always so interesting

506
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:54,960
because I feel like I I'm always
evolving.

507
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,320
It started when I transitioned
from high school to the

508
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,760
military.
The military kind of sparked

509
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,680
that for me, where I had to
become my own individual.

510
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,040
I was away from my family.
I had to figure things out on my

511
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,080
own.
So I think that is maybe that

512
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,880
that missing piece.
Yeah.

513
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,520
When did you kind of sever
yourself from like maybe leaning

514
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,960
on family or friends or like
help and Yeah, and start to kind

515
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,680
of become your own man where
responsibilities fall back on

516
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,160
you?
Yeah.

517
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,200
Because I and maybe that's where
like, OK, you might.

518
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,120
Some people can have a family,
but they never seem to grow up.

519
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,760
Yeah.
And maybe it's because they

520
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,120
still feel reliant.
Yeah, of course.

521
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,960
On on other people.
Sure, sure.

522
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:41,800
For me, it was the military.
I had to become my own, my own

523
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,880
man.
But then I've evolved like every

524
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,080
time I had to move bases, which
was like every 2-3 years, I

525
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,480
remember I sat back and and I
wasn't even a reflective person

526
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,600
at the time, but I said OK.
The friend groups, the

527
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,000
decisions, everything I've made
here, I have an opportunity at

528
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,520
my next base to not carry that
baggage with me, to not carry.

529
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,840
Or to carry it over, if you're
happy to.

530
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,600
Carry a good thing.
Yeah, exactly.

531
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:10,040
And and better those things
because everybody sees you for

532
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,400
how they've known you in the
past.

533
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Sometimes it can be really hard
to break those stigmas.

534
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,600
Sure.
Which also if everyone looks at

535
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,680
Ephraim and says this guy used
to party back in the days, you

536
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,600
know, like that stigma.
Whatever it is, it's.

537
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,400
Really hard to then be the
responsible business

538
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,480
professional and everyone's
else's images.

539
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,640
Yeah, yeah.
Same thing with family.

540
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,680
Like so until you can release
yourself of those expectations,

541
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,800
those projections, all these
associations, all these

542
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,640
associations, yeah, that's I
think where the mindset shifts.

543
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,400
For sure, for sure.
And that's why there's there's a

544
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,240
Jewish expression that basically
translates to in order to change

545
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,280
your luck, if you like, you're
down in your luck, change where

546
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,960
you live, like get up and go
because like a lot of times it's

547
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,440
not even necessarily your quote
UN quote luck.

548
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,000
And as much as it's listen,
everyone is a product of their

549
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,960
environment to a certain extent,
and everyone also influences the

550
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,200
environment they create.
A lot of times we might get

551
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,360
stuck in that.
And like, I, dude, I know I was

552
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,000
just back in New York for a
couple of weeks at my parents

553
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,840
house.
I'm a different human being than

554
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,400
my parents house.
And like, you know, I'm much

555
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,320
less productive.
I'm much less on top of things.

556
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,080
Like I kind of revert back to
being like a kid, like a kid

557
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,840
more and parents.
Yeah.

558
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,640
And it drives me nuts.
I'm so aware of it.

559
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,360
And I'm like, I, and you know, I
love being there and I love

560
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:30,240
spending time with my family,
but it drives me like on a

561
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,960
personal level, I'm like, like
over here, I'm like, like, I'm

562
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,200
the head of the Fed, you know,
like I, I, I got, I, I cover, I

563
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,120
take care of shit, you know,
like, you got to get, you got to

564
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:42,600
get shit done.
You got, you got bills to pay.

565
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,000
You got, you got a house that's
always on the verge of falling

566
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,960
apart with kids running around
ripping it apart.

567
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,000
And like, if you're not on top
of it, who's going to be?

568
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:51,720
And you know, and then they're
like the.

569
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Same way as shit in my own
house.

570
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,280
I'm like, is it going wrong and
let the RAC broke recently and I

571
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,280
I honestly, I sat on it for a
second and my wife is like the

572
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,000
day it breaks.
She's like Floridians worst

573
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,880
nightmare.
Yeah, dude, it's.

574
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,800
Going to be.
Panic I'm.

575
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,800
Going.
To die, she's like, I want to

576
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,640
stay with my with my and my
parents, you know, my

577
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,240
experience.
I'm like, I could sleep in this

578
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,160
for a month, Like we'll get to
it when we get to it.

579
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,000
But like, you know, and then
like you're with the floors,

580
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,360
you're like one day you're like,
you know, this is my household.

581
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,640
I have to also take in
consideration of the wants and

582
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,480
needs of the whole household.
Yeah, that's what that's what

583
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,440
forces you to evolve, dude.
Yeah, those decisions and that

584
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,640
train of thought, it forces you
evolve because it forces you to

585
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,720
make thoughtful, intelligent
decisions that push aside your

586
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,520
present need for whatever kind
of, you know, satisfaction or

587
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560
whatever kind of pleasure you're
looking for at the moment, even

588
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,760
if it's doing nothing like that
is a pleasure too, you know,

589
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,080
like sitting on the couch and
not getting up is a pleasure,

590
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,720
you know, and succumbing to that
for the long term happiness of

591
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,760
yourself, your relationship,
your kids, your wife, whatever

592
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,240
it is.
And so I want to take what

593
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440
you're talk, what we're talking
about and piece that back in

594
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,080
because this is it's very
important.

595
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:18,720
And I think the mindset Dad just
lost my train of thought there.

596
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,320
Oh man, hang on.
We're talking about being your

597
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,000
own person.
The evolution of giving up the

598
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,520
short term pleasures for the
long term happiness.

599
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160
That's what makes That's what
forces your brain to evolve.

600
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,440
Yes.
OK.

601
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,880
So that the mindset because
we're talking about like

602
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,720
obviously how we can like better
the world, like that's or how

603
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,640
our perspective has changed.
But I think you're saying people

604
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,120
are confused with like where we
go in life, like the high paid

605
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,840
jobs, like.
Yeah, our our our definition of

606
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,960
meaning and values, yes, are
very much up in the air.

607
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,720
It's.
Changing a lot right now.

608
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,080
This is something I've pondered
on a lot as I'm trying to

609
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,520
predict where I want to do the
future and what what impact I

610
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,920
want to have on the world so.
What you've been thinking

611
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,280
recently?
I've been listening to Carl

612
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,600
Young's, yeah, you know, a
little bit of philosophy, the

613
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,240
history, philosophies and all of
this.

614
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,360
So my mind is like all over the
place with with that kind of

615
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,240
deeper consciousness thinking.
But the mindset in general, I

616
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,640
think that's where we lack in
because we're all on social

617
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,360
media.
We all want, we all see these

618
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,720
like great images.
And until you sit back and have

619
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,520
that reflection and can kind of
pick apart why it is what you

620
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,560
want, that's where I think
people will say, you know what,

621
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,240
I was chasing something that was
impressed on me or because of my

622
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,880
circumstances.
Yeah, yeah, sure.

623
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,840
And the family and things like
that are what kind of make you

624
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,680
look a little bit more
internally and hopefully spark

625
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,440
that conversation within of what
you really want.

626
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,880
And I speak personally because
going in the military, I wanted

627
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,000
a certain thing.
Getting out of the military with

628
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,760
real estate, I wanted a certain
thing.

629
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,680
And until, like I said, 2025
when I started evaluating why

630
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:19,600
was that, I wanted those things
on a much deeper level of like,

631
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,080
not just, OK, I want that
because I want to make a lot of

632
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,080
money and that's going to be
good for my family.

633
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,680
That was basically my mindset.
Which is not a bad mindset, by

634
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,840
the way.
It's not, it's not a bad

635
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,440
mindset.
You're kind of masking it with.

636
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,040
You're doing this for my family,
but I know too many people who

637
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,280
that's the mindset they have.
And by the time they get the

638
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,080
money, the family's not there
because they focused too much on

639
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,880
one area.
And I guess what I'm getting at

640
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,280
is that I think the initial
thing we, we have people trying

641
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,560
to figure out the end goal, but
they need to do more mindset

642
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,520
work.
They need to work on who they

643
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,560
are.
You know, I look at myself like

644
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:02,200
a like a puzzle that is broken
apart and I can, I have to look

645
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,520
back on my upbringing, not just
my upbringing, my, my parents

646
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,840
upbringing and not bring
emotions to these things, dude,

647
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,520
and then piece it back in
together.

648
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,880
And I can take things that I
learned and experience and bring

649
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,280
that with me.
And if there's things that I

650
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,680
don't, it's not like I have to
blame anybody else for that.

651
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,360
It's I'm this way because of
choices I've made.

652
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,840
But I don't want to take that
carrying forward, and the vision

653
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,920
I have for the future isn't just
based off of why I need to make

654
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,520
money for this one reason.
I'm really piercing picking that

655
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,160
apart, finding my why behind it.
And dude, it's for me been

656
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,360
monuments to.
Change, but it's also the best

657
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,480
thing that you could do for
yourself because this is you're

658
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,000
stripping, you're finding a way.
Life is for people to understand

659
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,160
life or the purpose of their
lives or to try to find

660
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,000
direction of their lives.
They have to everyone, like you

661
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,320
said, these puzzle pieces that
are broken apart or like we have

662
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,160
all these or like another way to
think about it is like we are

663
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,600
whether we like you're not like
almost like a giant snowball of

664
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,480
all of experiences.
We have like our core and like

665
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,720
all this snow has been getting
packed on like in all different

666
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,280
directions and they're kind of
sticking to us.

667
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,520
You got to like get back one
layer at a time in order to say

668
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,560
like, what was really at my
core, like, you know, and the

669
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,000
question is if I am just able,
like, if I say that money is to

670
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,200
support my family and I am
paying my bills and my kids are

671
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,440
eating and we go on a vacation
once a year and we can afford

672
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,800
our rent and my kids are going
to school, then like, what am I

673
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,080
chasing more money than that
for?

674
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,600
And then at that point the
question becomes, well, then,

675
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,640
like now that my family is taken
care of, care of, now what?

676
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,520
And the answer is that there's a
lot more to taking care of your

677
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,040
family than just giving them A
and giving them a credit card or

678
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,680
a couple of a couple of a couple
of bills.

679
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Exactly.
There's there, you know, and

680
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,000
there's, there's a it's
interesting that there's a the

681
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,120
first commandment in Judaism in
the Bible really is God tells

682
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,800
Adam and Eve is to have kids and
to multiply and to spread out

683
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,520
all over the earth.
That was like the first

684
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,760
commandment for all humanity is
the continuation of life like

685
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,320
that is like, I think the
purpose of everything purpose of

686
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,120
everything.
I've been thinking about this a

687
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:16,080
lot is a combination of explore,
adventure and exploration and

688
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,239
nurture, care and love and like
that.

689
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:26,120
And, and those two points
require like that same level of

690
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,280
a yin Yang balance each other
out left, right brain, however

691
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,360
you want to call it, like the,
the part that's always pushing

692
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,600
boundaries and going out there.
And the other part and that's,

693
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,360
that's also literally liberal
and conservative, right?

694
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Because liberal and conservative
are literally trying to conserve

695
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,560
XY and Z values.
And the liberals are pushing the

696
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,360
envelope and saying, well, what
makes you think that this is the

697
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,880
value that we need to conserve?
And sometimes the idea is tested

698
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,400
and fails.
Sometimes that ideal is tested

699
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,520
and succeeds and you can kind of
see which parts.

700
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,920
But as a whole that society
really think like really holds

701
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,640
up.
And, you know, and then and

702
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,320
obviously there's all sorts of
factors that go into, you know,

703
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,760
aside from what people think,
what people will say, right,

704
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,040
what people are comfortable
saying.

705
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,680
And, you know, I mean,
especially talking, you know,

706
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,920
almost 200 episodes for a couple
of years, I'm definitely aware

707
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,360
of the fact that, like, you have
to think a lot before you say

708
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,800
anything, any podcast.
And like, that in and of itself

709
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,720
is definitely a form of
censorship.

710
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,960
That definitely is like a form
of hesitation.

711
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,640
But I'm not 100, you know, I
guess I'm not 100% confident

712
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,800
enough in myself and my ideas
that I'm willing to say that

713
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,960
without any filter and still
consider that, you know, that's

714
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,720
also the other.
Thing I fall in the same box a

715
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,480
lot because there's a lot of
things where like I get excited

716
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,000
I learned something new, I'm
exploring an idea and to speak

717
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,000
to somebody who maybe doesn't
understand it can feel deflating

718
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,640
because like, for sure you go,
yeah, you want to have this like

719
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,080
methodical conversation.
And to them they, they see it

720
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,640
one sided and are not open to
like kind of like like

721
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,320
exploring.
Yeah, the option, sure, because

722
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,640
sometimes we learn just by
talking through things.

723
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,440
I might say something and then
as I'm saying, I'm like, OK,

724
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,440
maybe I don't, maybe that's not
right or or like, I don't know.

725
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,600
I talk through things that way.
Yeah, that's a good way to think

726
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,320
though.
I think that being too, I think

727
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,720
that there's, there's a
difference between not being too

728
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:23,040
sure of yourself and also being
afraid to say what you think.

729
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,640
They're two very different
things.

730
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,680
Yeah, to say for me to have an
opinion on some on events, a

731
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,240
political event, historical
event, you know, social event,

732
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,240
whatever it is, I can say I
think that I think this like I'm

733
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,240
not sure what my thoughts are
and I'm working on this.

734
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,760
And then there's I have my
thoughts and I just don't want

735
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,680
to say it because.
I've always been the person too

736
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,960
afraid to say my thoughts out of
a fear of judgement, out of fear

737
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,840
of maybe I could get questioned
or, or it's not wrong or

738
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,000
perceived the right way.
And until I sat down, I picked

739
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960
apart my beliefs, put them back
together.

740
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,840
I strengthened my foundation of
who I am, of who I wanna be and

741
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,720
who I what I believe.
Yeah, that's when I had those

742
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:07,800
conversations.
Now, I'm not afraid to talk to

743
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,720
somebody and ask questions.
We have to talk through, or

744
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,280
that's how it should be.
And I think that society has

745
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,720
pushed us into these like, don't
ask questions, like don't offend

746
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:21,480
people.
We're very meek, we're very

747
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,440
mild.
We're very like like and social

748
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,240
media has kind of done that
because social media has given

749
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,080
us the, we talked about this a
bunch.

750
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,840
It gives us a substitute or
texting you and has given us a

751
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,160
substitute for having, instead
of having confrontational

752
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,720
conversations where you could
just send them in a text and be

753
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,640
like, I don't feel like people
do it with phone calls now.

754
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,880
People are afraid to answer the
phone or to call someone up and

755
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,320
just you'd be like, hey, I
haven't spoken to you in a

756
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,440
while, you know, what are you up
to?

757
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,800
How's it been?
And.

758
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,840
We've been conditioned that way
and it's, I see it all the time.

759
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,920
So where do you think that?
Where do you, because I like the

760
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,520
conversation where we're going
with people finding purpose

761
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,520
because it's something I've been
doing.

762
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,960
Like I said, 2025 was a big year
for me, the end of 2024 where I

763
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,640
started questioning myself, my
faith, my career.

764
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,160
Yeah.
My everything.

765
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,520
Yeah.
And it took me months.

766
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,040
I mean, all of 2025, I feel like
was picking it apart, piercing

767
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,040
it together.
It's not a slow process.

768
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,640
It's or it is a slow process.
It shouldn't be a fast process.

769
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,760
Yeah.
And so when do you feel like

770
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,000
you've done that?
And and how do you feel like is

771
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,840
the best route someone can go to
find purpose in their life?

772
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,960
Oh.
Man.

773
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Hopefully that's not like too
deep of a question.

774
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,360
No, it's not.
So you're asking a how do I

775
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,600
find?
Like how do I find purpose?

776
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,160
Or how do I find?
Yeah, you seem like you're very

777
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,040
intentional, solid in what
you're doing in life.

778
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,920
And like you said, you're it's a
mindset where people you can

779
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,760
wake up and and say, Oh my gosh,
I have all these things, I'm

780
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,840
behind or whatever.
Or you can say I'm going to take

781
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,760
the day as it is.
I know that my family is taken

782
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,880
care of.
Like my mindset is that things

783
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,240
are going to work out and I have
a plan.

784
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,640
Yeah.
Like a way to find happiness in

785
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,720
in balance in all areas of life
because you know that life is it

786
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,600
is like a game.
And it is one you can step in of

787
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,280
and step out of.
Yeah.

788
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,160
Yeah.
I've.

789
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,040
Just I've.
I've just learned.

790
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,640
I've just learned, thankfully,
that then because I've been bad

791
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,240
at particular games my whole
life and like these are the

792
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,120
usual games that most people go
through, like the classroom

793
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,840
school or like classroom form of
education or, you know, even the

794
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,960
standard way of job of job and
business, right?

795
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,920
Like all the, I've had to go
side routes with everything I

796
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,160
had to I, you know, I've always
had to find alternative methods

797
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,440
of learning, of expressing
myself, of even find, you know,

798
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,720
even with, with work, like
finding my niche within the

799
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,560
business because I don't work
the same way my dad does even a

800
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,440
little, a little bit.
And but if I don't find any way

801
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,920
I work, then I'm not doing it,
you know, then I'm not making

802
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,560
any money.
So I almost kind of had to learn

803
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,480
the hard way by being someone
that does like I'm generally a

804
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,680
square that's trying to get, you
know, that was in a circle

805
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,600
system.
And so I realized eventually.

806
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,840
That, and this only happened, I
think after I got out of

807
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,640
college, a couple years after
college was my friends had my

808
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,720
friends did everything that I
was supposed to be doing, right.

809
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,360
A lot of my friends were very
successful in the very

810
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,840
stereotypical sense, in the
sense that they got great grades

811
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,040
in school, they did their
athletics and they got into good

812
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,680
colleges and they and they got
great degrees and then they got

813
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,800
this wonderful corporate job
that started.

814
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,440
And it's super exciting.
You know, senior year of high

815
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,480
school, going to MIT, going to
Stanford, going to Yale, going

816
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,680
to going to, you know, Columbia.
And then you have people in

817
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Colombia studying, you know,
rocket science and, you know,

818
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,160
and computer science and, and,
and, and investment banking.

819
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,200
And then these guys graduate.
You know, a lot of the guys that

820
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960
say the accountants get a job at
one of these big accounting

821
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,880
firms.
They fucking hate their lives,

822
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,720
right, Even though they have the
job that they've been working

823
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,920
for the entire lives.
They did everything they do they

824
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,560
they went through the whole
process and they're stuck in the

825
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,400
city in an apartment that is too
expensive that they can't

826
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,280
afford, but they have to be by
because they have to be close to

827
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,720
work and they can't afford to
take time off.

828
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,040
And you know, their, their life
is enormously restricted.

829
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,480
And all of a sudden I found out
I was making a little bit less

830
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,800
money at the time, but my life
was way more flexible and fun.

831
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,720
And I was like, wait a minute.
Like I'm in like North Carolina

832
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,400
this week and like I'm in the
office and next week and I'm

833
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,760
running back and forth to do
this.

834
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,160
And like, and then I'm learning
like the insurance and out of

835
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,400
like there's a whole dealer side
of like every industry, like,

836
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,400
you know, there's a wholesale
side.

837
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,640
And then there's the, you know,
the, the customer facing side.

838
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,880
And like, oh, this is how you
got, yeah, this is how you like

839
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,960
source, source a product that
someone's looking for.

840
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,360
And even if I never sold it in
my entire life, there's ways to

841
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,320
do it.
Just all this.

842
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,600
And I'm like, oh, like, I just
was not good at that at that

843
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,080
game.
And like, I had these cards in

844
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,120
my hand and I was not a good
poker player, but I'm a way

845
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,360
better blackjack player.
I'm a way better crafts player.

846
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,560
And so I decided to stop playing
poker and to switch over to

847
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,760
crafts.
And I mean, the truth is that

848
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,520
it's really hard for me now to
see people in my life that are

849
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,320
from the poker days, you know,
because that kind of reminds me

850
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,080
of a point in time where I was
more of a joke, didn't fit in.

851
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Like, you know, it was kind of
the guy that like everyone like

852
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,440
liked and like knew was like, I
was in a dummy, you know, But

853
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,280
like, I wasn't doing well.
I wasn't doing well in class.

854
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,040
I wasn't like, I didn't have a
plan for the future.

855
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,680
I was like, oh, what's going to
do is like, yeah, you'll figure

856
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,040
it out.
You know, like, we'll see.

857
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,040
So there was the least
certainty.

858
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:48,640
And then and then when I
realized that with that, and

859
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,080
then the other thing I realized
was the value of patience and

860
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,720
time.
And that happened with guitar

861
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:55,120
because I'm not a natural guitar
player.

862
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,080
I'm not musician general.
I don't have an ear.

863
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,320
And so like for me to get to
like where someone would be at

864
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,800
six months probably took me a
year and. 1/2 I would like to

865
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,680
learn the guitar.
But it took me a year and a

866
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,720
half, but a year and a half of
doing something and then seeing

867
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,240
the slow progress made me
realize I don't need to beat

868
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,480
myself up about anything.
Like if I like, if there's any

869
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,280
reason, if there's anything I
want to do and I'm not good at

870
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,440
it, it's only because I haven't
invested enough time in it.

871
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,520
And it's nothing to do with what
my capabilities are.

872
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,400
And I actually think most people
in this world are like that.

873
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:29,640
I think that most people need
time to learn a skill and don't

874
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,440
have the patience or give up
because we're used to, you know,

875
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,840
short term tourism,
gratification, so many other

876
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,000
aspects of our lives that the,
the long game is actually a

877
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,480
great game.
It's a fun game to play and

878
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,840
that, and that becomes the game
of raising a family and that

879
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,280
becomes the game of starting a
company and that becomes a game

880
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,920
of discovering yourself.
Because you know what?

881
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,440
I thought that I was a piano.
I, I love piano and then I

882
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,760
started playing guitar and I
fell in love with guitar and

883
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,080
then I found the piano again and
I'm like, but I'm revisiting as

884
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,480
a whole new human being and I'm
like, I don't even like, I

885
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,720
couldn't even conceive of like
these worlds that like I'd be

886
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,840
participating in with the piano.
And I didn't go through that

887
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,680
whole that whole process first.
Yeah, you got to take the good

888
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:14,520
and the bad for what it is.
Just have patience, man

889
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:18,000
everything I I I I I and then if
you believe in God and you

890
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,120
believe in a in God, fate,
destiny, a long term, like a

891
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:28,760
universal love, oneness, truth,
that that is reality that it and

892
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,160
you know that we're coming.
I think that the the most

893
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,240
dangerous part of the world is
getting so many people to forget

894
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,920
that in such a regular basis
that we are part of like the

895
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,080
most beauty.
And that's why I've been

896
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,680
recently listening a lot to a
lot of like the, you know, UFO

897
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,560
type of, you know, UAP,
alternative energy, nuclear, you

898
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,840
know, and like all these crazy
things and part of the part of

899
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,440
the what's attractive my child.
Don't know too much, you'll be

900
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,000
the next on the list.
Dude, I'll tell you.

901
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,320
We'll talk about I want, we'll
talk about that in in 2 seconds,

902
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,240
dude, because I have some crazy
shit about that man, but.

903
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,120
But that's what life is.
It's like you should.

904
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,800
That's why you can have a more
positive aspect.

905
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,800
I've every time I talk to you,
dude, you're, you're always

906
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,320
happy and excited.
And yeah, there's so much to be

907
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,360
excited about.
Dude, and that's how we should

908
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,360
look at life.
Like if you're in something

909
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,320
that's making you really
unhappy, you just you need to

910
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,600
evaluate it and honestly sit
down and say, is there a path

911
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,160
out of this?
Like either for me, for example,

912
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:38,680
I got to the point of like being
on my hands and knees in tears,

913
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,640
upset at like why I was feeling
the way I was.

914
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,760
Why was I so upset?
How did I end up in the position

915
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,960
I'm in?
What am I lacking?

916
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,120
What am I missing?
And even though everything

917
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,560
around me from the outside
looking in looked great,

918
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,360
everything looked good.
You know, relationships, great

919
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,080
work, great everything, but
internally something was missing

920
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,160
and it was the authenticity of
who I am.

921
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,520
And I realized that.
And this is where I really

922
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,600
started getting into reflection
through meditation and, and

923
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,800
prayer and, and I realized, you
know what I didn't?

924
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,560
There was, there was things with
the military that politics and

925
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,480
whatever that I didn't always
enjoy, but it fulfilled me in,

926
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,120
in a lot of ways that it gave
your mission to get through.

927
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,640
It gave me purpose.
Exactly.

928
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,520
It's a family.
Exactly.

929
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,040
It gave me a little bit of like
that tribal community, that

930
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,640
people.
It's more than tribal because

931
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,960
you can see the people that you
were in it with were willing to

932
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,080
put their lives aside and sell
and fly across the country or

933
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,840
fly across the world to
celebrate with you.

934
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,600
That's not just tribal like that
is like.

935
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,640
It meets several areas and
that's again, that's why I'm in

936
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,240
jiu jitsu right now.
That's how we met.

937
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,360
That's right.
That's because when I went

938
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,080
through the process of saying
these are the pillars of my life

939
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,720
that like, I want to focus on my
relationships with my friends

940
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:08,360
and family, my fitness, my
spirituality, my finances.

941
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,480
And then all of a sudden your
nine to five job doesn't become

942
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,360
the end all be all.
It's.

943
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,400
Not the end all be all.
And you can look at when you

944
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,040
when you find those pillars
within your own life of what

945
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,080
bring you balance.
You could say, OK, maybe I'm

946
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,560
going to sacrifice more in this
area.

947
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,720
Maybe work is is stressing me
out, but because I'm aware of

948
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:30,240
what brings me wholeness, I can
dive in a little bit more on

949
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:32,800
something else.
For me, yeah, I chose to do a

950
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,200
marathon.
That was when I the reason I

951
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,760
chose that was because I felt so
down.

952
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,600
I felt like life was spinning
out of control and and I didn't.

953
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,160
Have yeah.
And occasionally to to like a

954
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,360
direction, like a perfect a
purpose to hang on to something

955
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,560
to.
It's a force of gravity in your

956
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,280
life that you can revolve around
it.

957
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,520
Yeah, at that point I said, you
know what?

958
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,120
Like it's not what is going to
be.

959
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:55,720
I'm not going to go be an
athlete.

960
00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:57,000
That's not going to change my
world.

961
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,640
I have to stick in the business
I'm in.

962
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,600
But this is the decision I can
make that's going to give me

963
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,840
control, that brings me
fulfillment.

964
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,600
Awesome.
And through that process,

965
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:11,000
through the challenge and the
the process of doing the

966
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,000
marathon, I was able to wake up
everyday and feel happier.

967
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,480
Wasn't like I was rolling out of
bed, like, you know, upset with

968
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,960
things.
I had something to look forward

969
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,600
to.
Yeah.

970
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,440
And.
And if.

971
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:22,960
Your whole life becomes that
because when you make decisions,

972
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,080
your whole life becomes these
projects, these seeds that

973
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,840
you're watering and you're
watching and like, they're all

974
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,120
happening at different points
too.

975
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,360
If you imagine like, you know,
like backyard, you just start

976
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,240
water.
You know what you said?

977
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:34,960
You plant different seeds at
different points of your life

978
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,080
and you're watering it every day
and like some seed just starts

979
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,160
popping up and all of a sudden
another one pops up and you're

980
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,720
like, oh shit, I forgot I even
planted that.

981
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:43,280
You know, I'm like.
And the fact that you're doing

982
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,040
it, the fact that you're
planting the seeds means you

983
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,560
believe in tomorrow.
Yeah.

984
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,920
You're believing in the future.
Yeah, it's bringing.

985
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,320
That's also the purpose.
That's also the purpose.

986
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,880
To the now, that's right, you're
not going to do it if you don't

987
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,400
believe tomorrow's going to come
or tomorrow's you're going to

988
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,400
see the fruition.
And that's the blending of the

989
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,720
adventure and the and, and and
the nurture and the path and the

990
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:04,640
care of, of what humanity is all
about.

991
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,440
And listen, at the end of the
day, if you think about it like

992
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,760
big picture, what, what life is
going to lead to is definitely

993
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,400
more life like, it's more
travelling, it's access to more

994
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,920
life.
Like, like what we're doing

995
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,440
right now is we're living on a
plane where we only have access

996
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,480
to XY and Z, very limited
things.

997
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,600
But we're so close.
I, I with nurture, we're a sea

998
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,480
that's just ready.
Like I, I really believe

999
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,200
humanity is a sea that's ready
to kind of just like pop out of

1000
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,920
the soil.
And we're we're struggling to

1001
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,920
pop out of the soil and we're
right there.

1002
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,280
We're finally at a point where
it's like people are kind of

1003
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,400
awake to the idea that we don't
need war to solve a.

1004
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,800
Problem.
Dude, it's incredible.

1005
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,480
Have been through our barbaric
years for thousands of years and

1006
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,240
like people are in in the West
part of the country, aren't they

1007
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:56,360
don't know what's happening in
the east part of the country in

1008
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,200
today's technological age we do
and we can say you know what I

1009
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,160
would.
BS is called out everywhere,

1010
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,280
dude.
Everywhere, everywhere.

1011
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,000
It's.
Incredible share a beer with

1012
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,080
somebody in Afghanistan who I
was in the military to fight

1013
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,640
against that thing.
So it's like you start to see

1014
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,320
humans as humans, not as these
cultures and, and everything.

1015
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,040
And, and when you look at life
that way, I think it does change

1016
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,360
your perspective.
I, I've had such a perspective

1017
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,360
shift being out of the military
and kind of looking back on

1018
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,600
things and seeing where my
mindset was in the military and

1019
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,120
the things that I was training
for.

1020
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,600
And and now it's just I just
have such a different

1021
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,920
perspective.
Yeah.

1022
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,640
I appreciate people and human
connection more.

1023
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,280
That's everyday because that's
what it's about.

1024
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,280
And you have conversations with
people.

1025
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,560
Our lack of communication is, I
think, a big reason why we get

1026
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,280
into conflicts.
Just people not willing to

1027
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,920
understand each other, People
who want power, people who want

1028
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,520
just, I don't know, to me it's
like, and that's why I love

1029
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,960
kawaii.
That's why everybody should go

1030
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,880
to a place where you can
separate from it all the systems

1031
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,360
and the stress and the people
wanting to have a specific

1032
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:18,080
persona and you just kind of
reconnect with nature, like our

1033
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:23,960
roots.
And you know, if you don't, if

1034
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,640
you don't have purpose in life
or know what's happening or

1035
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,000
you're stressing and feeling,
there's, there's a lot of

1036
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,160
anxiety and depression today.
And it's because there's a lot

1037
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,720
of comparison through social
media.

1038
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:35,960
I'm.
Sure.

1039
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,760
A lot of news.
A lot of, A lot of.

1040
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,040
Bad news on the news.
It really dude, I went and got a

1041
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,800
new phone the other day and the
guy at AT&T was like 19 years

1042
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,960
old and he's like man, I don't
know like the there's there's no

1043
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,520
future for me like a is taking
over the I just graduated now

1044
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,760
we're going to war like they
feel like there's generation

1045
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,040
that feels lost but.
That generation is going to

1046
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,360
reject the things that got us
there.

1047
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:01,960
I have a lot of hope for this
generation.

1048
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,000
Me too, because I think that.
Dude, they're religious.

1049
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,760
They're more religious than
they're more religious.

1050
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,720
More people are going to church.
They.

1051
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,880
Have to, dude, we have to have
something to fall back.

1052
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:16,200
Yeah, dude, the paradigm, the
perspectives that have built

1053
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,080
everything we have now it there
has been progression.

1054
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,120
We're not living in the 1500s
where we're just like killing

1055
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,240
people because we think they're
a witch, you know.

1056
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,040
But but now like people have
become more civilized.

1057
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:32,400
Technology is being built that I
think it's scary to a lot of

1058
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,920
people because the hands it's
in.

1059
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,520
But my positive outlook is that
that technology is it's going to

1060
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,400
be kind of you should read this
into, I would love to because

1061
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,640
you read a lot of interesting
things and talk to a lot of

1062
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,800
interesting people.
But I think that the generation

1063
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,720
coming up is, is going to be
able to kind of hijack that

1064
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:53,600
technology for the good.
Because I hope that the people,

1065
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,520
as long as we are not forced
into some oppression or like way

1066
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:04,040
where we cannot take, have our
own control and freedoms, we are

1067
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,080
a generation that can now
utilize this this technology for

1068
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,000
the benefit of humanity, not
just the groups.

1069
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,560
We're with it.
We have to get the bad people

1070
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,000
out, man.
There there's there's.

1071
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,240
A There's a lot of them at the
Hell, I think.

1072
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:19,040
We're about to go into like our
generation is.

1073
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,960
We need to build some strong
leaders.

1074
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,560
We need to that's, but you know
what?

1075
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:30,640
That's, I think that is the that
has that is by far the biggest

1076
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,800
issue in the country right now
or one of the biggest issues in

1077
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,360
the country right now is that
goes hand in hand that we talked

1078
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,760
about earlier, that social
isolation, that fear of stepping

1079
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,080
up that, that like this kind of
Americans used to be Cowboys.

1080
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,680
We were nuts.
Like, you know, like we didn't

1081
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,440
care about rules.
And like, you know what?

1082
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,600
If you have a rule, fuck you and
force it.

1083
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,280
You know, like you're not.
Good luck trying to.

1084
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,520
Keep it smoke my stogie where?
You know, and like and and and

1085
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,400
but that's kind of what made to
a certain extent.

1086
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,880
But and and again, I think you
can have that spirit of

1087
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,720
rebellion without being a shit
person.

1088
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,840
I think that those that those
like you don't have to have one

1089
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,600
and be the other necessarily.
That spirit of rebellion is what

1090
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,720
built this country.
The.

1091
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,840
Spirit of rebellion is the
foundation, I think of of

1092
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,040
monotheism, of Abrahamic
monotheism, for the most part

1093
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,880
was the idea.
Yeah, the spirit of rebellion.

1094
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,360
It was iconoclasm.
And it's not bad to stand up to

1095
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,720
what you think is wrong with
rebelling is it's within our

1096
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,160
nature.
We all rebelled.

1097
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,520
We rebelled against our parents
through history, you see it.

1098
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,240
But The thing is now hopefully
this.

1099
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Rebellion equals good doesn't.
Need to be war and slaughter and

1100
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,640
and and impressing on people.
It just needs to be everybody

1101
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,120
kind of saying we don't need
this, This is wrong.

1102
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:58,640
But I will say I, I myself, I'm
not at the point of and I'd like

1103
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,320
to learn more about this and
dive deeper into this like we

1104
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,120
need the systems we've built, we
need like, you know.

1105
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,720
Like what?
So what systems are we talking

1106
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,360
about?
OK, so like for example, how can

1107
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,160
we, like we all love the
community we have, but how often

1108
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,440
do most people go out and donate
their time and their skills for

1109
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,600
free to help the community?
Not often.

1110
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,880
Most people don't ever do it so.
Well, what we say is that you're

1111
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,480
paying taxes to have to have
designated people do that.

1112
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,240
Exactly.
And so if and so, but people

1113
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:33,800
right now are like, let's not
pay taxes, taxes.

1114
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,560
Well, they they don't want to
pay federal taxes.

1115
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,120
They.
Don't want it?

1116
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:38,000
OK, so, but that's.
Federal and state taxes are

1117
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,640
funded are pretty funded.
Like I I love the city of

1118
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,200
Hollywood, like being in
Hollywood as a resident and a

1119
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,400
homeowner for four years now.
Awesome, awesome.

1120
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,640
They're they're on top of their
shit and like you, people can

1121
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,320
complain.
South Florida's cramps.

1122
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,520
They're like they're expanding
the highway, they're doing

1123
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,200
construction, they're building
sidewalks, like like they're on

1124
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,960
top of their game.
They have these back alleys for

1125
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,080
the garbage trucks to go
through.

1126
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,800
And I'm happy to throw money
into that.

1127
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,160
But you know what?
Federal taxes, fuck you.

1128
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,840
You know, I mean, like, what are
you talking about over here?

1129
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,320
This is crazy.
There are literally laws that

1130
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,760
are that are passed from both
sides of the aisle that the

1131
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,520
executive branch doesn't feel
like carrying out, right.

1132
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,480
And that, you know what they
say, fuck you.

1133
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,400
Yeah.
And so you know what?

1134
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,320
So when someone says so, and
yeah, of course there are larger

1135
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,120
scheme consequences.
But you know what?

1136
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,240
I think that.
And the issue is that it's

1137
00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:31,680
become so extreme that people do
tend to throw the baby out with

1138
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,800
the bathwater as far as, like,
what do you need anything for,

1139
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,320
you know?
But the truth is, if you think

1140
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,840
about this and like, I don't, I
never like the point of

1141
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,320
education, right?
Government being involved in

1142
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,120
education historically has been
the worst thing ever for

1143
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,720
America, has been the worst
thing ever.

1144
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:50,160
If you look at at the statistics
and the numbers of how Americans

1145
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,600
are doing in school versus how
much money has been vested per

1146
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,920
kid in America as a result of
the public school education.

1147
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,360
There's a direct correlation
between the amount of money

1148
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,040
being put in and the and, and,
and, and how poorly students are

1149
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,160
doing.
So like when you say like we

1150
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,440
care about education, we have
to, we have to look at the

1151
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,760
source of correlation.
We have to say or 'cause it, you

1152
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,480
know, there's something there,
there's some kind of

1153
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,120
relationship between the more
money they supposed to be going

1154
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,000
this to Department of Education.
For some reason, Americans are

1155
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,960
doing off on education year
after year after year after

1156
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,360
year.
You can blame code, you can

1157
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,400
blame whatever.
You want look at what kids want

1158
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,400
to be when they grow up.
Compared to what?

1159
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,720
20 years and that's but that
shows meaning and that shows

1160
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,560
meaning in value you want to.
Be a social media influencer.

1161
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,920
That because what else are you
going to be?

1162
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,560
Or an.
Astronaut dogs are going to be

1163
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,240
taken by AI.
Lawyers going to be taken by AI.

1164
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,160
Code is going to be taken by AI,
you know, like a lot of the

1165
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,520
ambition, but that.
But The thing is I hope that

1166
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,000
it's.
So what I would say is when

1167
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,120
those things are covered now you
say and I think this about my

1168
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,200
life and this actually was is
what helps me do so much my

1169
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,280
life, what process and this will
actually I got this from reading

1170
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,080
about Elon Musk.
What processes are unnecessary

1171
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,080
that I could cut out guilt free
and everything could still run

1172
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,360
fine and I'll still be OK?
Yeah.

1173
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,640
You know, and like, like when
you look at like life like that,

1174
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,480
like I'm not trying to not, I'm
not trying to avoid

1175
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,440
responsibility.
I'm trying to be the most

1176
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,040
effective I could be.
And guess what?

1177
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,040
I don't need an account now.
So now I could be XY and Z more

1178
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,480
effective at rocket science.
You know, I'm so much more

1179
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,080
interested in that, you know,
I'm so much, you know, like I

1180
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,160
think the idea of an AI tax is
awesome for all the people that

1181
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,800
are layoff and the AI job that
replaces them, that X percent,

1182
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,680
because now the companies aren't
paying employees.

1183
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,640
All this money's found money,
good X percent tax on top of

1184
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,520
that, on top of every employee
that you have going back into

1185
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:43,880
the people.
And now you know what?

1186
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,080
Let's have a creative
resurgence.

1187
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,680
Let's have a renaissance of art.
Let's let's work on our

1188
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,840
infrastructure.
Yeah, dude, technology, people.

1189
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,760
When people don't want to, when
people don't have to do the hard

1190
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,840
labor, the bad, the bad effort,
breaking labor, you could

1191
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,520
participate in something more
meaningful.

1192
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,920
You know, but the this is where
we're going to go through this

1193
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:11,800
shift with people who we've
spent years and years building,

1194
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,320
putting people in cubicles all
day long, on assembly lines all

1195
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,560
day long and, and people find
their purpose now within these

1196
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,400
career fields and now.
We're.

1197
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,920
Stripping that away.
And so that's a big question

1198
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,240
I've been asking myself.
As you know, it's not a bad

1199
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,480
thing inherently that AI is
going to replace it.

1200
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,960
We just have to dream bigger.
We need to dream.

1201
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,240
Bigger, bigger.
We need to rediscover what made

1202
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,880
America, America.
We need to discover that that

1203
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,320
excitement right now.
The fact that we have so much

1204
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,400
UFO evidence, the fact that 12
as of a yesterday or 13

1205
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,800
scientists related to UFOs have
been killed or disappeared

1206
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,120
literally and then everyone is
like can't be anything.

1207
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,120
What the fuck?
We're America, dude.

1208
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,800
What are you talking about,
dude?

1209
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,640
It's nothing.
What kind of what kind of

1210
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,120
dictatorship, lunatic, you know,
government are we living under?

1211
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,040
And what kind of social media?
Serious oligarchs like by the

1212
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,800
way, And like, I don't use that
word like like when I say this.

1213
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,480
Social media and AI companies
have the ability have enough

1214
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,280
money, have enough revenue and
capital and employees to

1215
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,960
literally be more powerful than
most other countries on this

1216
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,760
world.
They are greater than most

1217
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,680
countries.
And you know, Chile, you want to

1218
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,920
look at the Chile in South
America, look what AI is doing

1219
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,560
to that country.
You look that they're buying

1220
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,800
land for data set for data
centers.

1221
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,520
They're taking that they need to
use clean water for that, for

1222
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,600
cooling, for the, for the AI
systems.

1223
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,680
They're taking from the budget
of the people and, and, and,

1224
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,440
and, and, and they're and, and
basically who all these AI

1225
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,400
companies, three or four of
them, Meta, open AI, Microsoft,

1226
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,240
Amazon, they're, they're,
they're basically digitizing and

1227
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,440
robotizing countries at a time
just to extract all the

1228
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,640
resources.
And the people are like I do, I,

1229
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,440
the governments aren't going to
say no because it means that

1230
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,120
they get money.
And I think literally listen, at

1231
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,960
the end of the day, these end of
times, you know, whatever

1232
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,240
religion you're a part of and
whatever, like everyone has the

1233
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,400
same common story.
There's going to be a time of

1234
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,200
great oppression.
There's going to be a time.

1235
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,560
And like, you know, it's funny
because the you know, in

1236
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,080
Judaism, at least from the
Jewish perspective, we say that

1237
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,240
the final exile that we're in
now is supposed to be a

1238
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,400
prototype of the one in Egypt
that happened in the Bible.

1239
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,960
And one, and you know, the main
thing was like, you have these,

1240
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,320
you have the, you have a
population, you have the

1241
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,400
populace, you have 70 people
that came down and they turned

1242
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,760
into a hundreds of thousands of
millions of people in the matter

1243
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,080
of 70 or 80 years.
And like it's called the

1244
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,440
populace.
And then you have the one

1245
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,800
leadership that's keeping them
busy and working to the extent

1246
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,200
that they don't know how to
break out.

1247
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,600
They're not even aware that
they're slaves because they're

1248
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,760
just so focused on this great
thing that they're building.

1249
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,720
And then the second that they
become aware that they're

1250
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:07,800
slaves, they throw off the yoke
of this meaningless

1251
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,360
responsibility that's being
imposed on them.

1252
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,480
And they're going to search for
their own destiny.

1253
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,600
And they're going to go into the
desert.

1254
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,360
They're going to go, they can go
to the desert, they're going to

1255
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,080
space.
They can go into they go into

1256
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,720
whatever they want to go to and
receive fundamental

1257
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,120
understandings of what it means
to be a conscious human being

1258
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,920
and not just an animal.
And then, you know, and I was

1259
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,120
thinking a lot about this.
We are animals, like, and then

1260
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,080
we don't like to think of
ourselves.

1261
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,480
We shit like animal shit.
We have to, we, we, you know,

1262
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,120
when we got horny like other
animals.

1263
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,400
And like the question is, what
is going to differentiate you?

1264
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,200
And that's our consciousness.
Somewhere along.

1265
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,360
Yeah, exactly.
And religion is that is

1266
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,400
evolution of consciousness.
Don't act like the animal.

1267
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,760
It's a humanistic like we are
the ones who run this world and

1268
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,400
everything else is just like a
part.

1269
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,560
Of dude, we're just an animal in
this world, man, we're.

1270
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,080
Literally just another species
as part of this.

1271
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,160
And that's why I love Kauai.
That's why I love Kauai.

1272
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,720
You go there and you feel like a
part of the oneness again.

1273
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,360
You feel like like nature's not
that separate from you.

1274
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,480
You feel like you kind of have
that more primalistic, those

1275
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,760
Nick that abilities like, OK, if
I lived here, how would I

1276
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,520
survive if I didn't have a
grocery store?

1277
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,560
Things close there at the only
time and like restaurants aren't

1278
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,520
open all the time.
There's not $100 around the.

1279
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,000
He was talking to someone who
keeps kosher.

1280
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,520
Yeah, exactly.
So like.

1281
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,560
But that's also the purpose.
That's part of the.

1282
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,480
Purpose and that is where we
need to we've had a society

1283
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,440
built on this like everything's
handed to us, especially in

1284
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,400
America.
So when you go get out of that

1285
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,720
and you you change the
perspective.

1286
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,840
Wow, these people, they don't
rely on ever all the systems in

1287
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,880
front of them.
So bringing that back, OK, I can

1288
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,160
play the game of the system, I
can make the money, I can do the

1289
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,960
influence, the impact, whatever
I want, but I need to be

1290
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,480
self-sufficient because, and
that alone would give me purpose

1291
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:06,200
because now, OK, I sat down, I
revised my life, who I want to

1292
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,440
be, what I want to do, and, and
so if all of that was taken

1293
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,400
away, would my purpose be gone?
Well, probably, right.

1294
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,800
So if you stripped away your job
tomorrow, you would still be

1295
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,840
Dalton in a very real sense
because you have a sense of self

1296
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,680
that is completely independent
of the work that you that that

1297
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,760
of your quote UN quote work that
you're contributing to society.

1298
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,800
You have something else that you
understand exists in a

1299
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,880
meaningful, real way that can be
applied to anything around this.

1300
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,840
World and I don't think a lot of
people have that.

1301
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,280
And that's what because that's
what you could, by the way, if

1302
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,760
you want it, that's the next
that is going to be the next

1303
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,000
most meaningful thing.
And best by the potential career

1304
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:49,440
thing that you can do is in a
time of great abundance where

1305
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,840
you don't have to work in a
meaningless way.

1306
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,960
Now you have to be.
You could teach people how to be

1307
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,960
intentional.
You can teach people how to be

1308
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,520
meaningful.
You can teach people how to find

1309
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,320
themselves.
The two, by the way, Because

1310
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,800
again, I said that religion
helped me.

1311
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,960
Religion doesn't tell me what
career to choose.

1312
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,800
Religion doesn't tell me how
many kids to have, what my

1313
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,080
relationship with my wife to be
should be like.

1314
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,480
Doesn't answer every question.
It gives you it gives you the

1315
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,960
format and the healthiest, you
know, like it gives you space to

1316
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,520
navigate in, in a healthy in a
healthy manner that generally

1317
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,320
leans towards continuing life,
adventure and care.

1318
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,040
That's what it's, that's what
it's all about those three

1319
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,800
things.
And like, apply that to

1320
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,440
anything.
And then, you know, apply that

1321
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,080
to space travel.
Apply that to bringing more life

1322
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,760
to other worlds.
Think about how incredible that

1323
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,560
is that we have that, you know,
and like, you know, and then you

1324
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,600
know, again, the Bible says,
like God says, man, I made you

1325
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,080
like God.
You can now influence the

1326
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,080
environment around you.
You could create life in another

1327
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,920
place that you would like And
and you know, one thing that I

1328
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,520
think we lost is being able to
see the stars at night and being

1329
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,520
able to you know, I mean, I'm
shy.

1330
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,840
I don't know, Hawaii is like at
night, dude.

1331
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,240
He.
Dude, I look like I felt like I

1332
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,800
was looking out of like a globe
where like just have a front

1333
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,320
like the sky is your windshield
and you could see every

1334
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,560
constellation out there compared
to here where like it's so much

1335
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,400
city pollution you don't really
see the stars.

1336
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,880
Like that you lose wonder.
I think it was appreciation if

1337
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,320
without seeing it.
Yeah, the stars take you kind of

1338
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,760
past your own world.
Like what's out there.

1339
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,720
It's it's I think the closest
form to time travel because the

1340
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,040
same constellation is up there
that 5000 years.

1341
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,360
Uh huh.
The philosophy.

1342
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,960
It probably doesn't exist by the
way too.

1343
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,600
Yeah, no, exactly.
That light is long gone.

1344
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,040
It's just like.
Still, we're just getting that

1345
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,200
light.
Yeah, yeah.

1346
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,440
So it's, I mean that's.
But think about now the light

1347
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,160
that you could bring.
And this is the same thing with

1348
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,040
the butterfly effect, the the
impact of the decisions that we

1349
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,360
make.
Think about how long that rebels

1350
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,640
for.
Because time works the same

1351
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,840
time, works within the same way
as light travelling, right?

1352
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,960
As far as, as far as we
understand right now, the

1353
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,480
effects of our action.
Your interaction with someone

1354
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,640
positive, follow that for 20
years, follow what that one

1355
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,760
interaction did.
Sometimes it's nothing and

1356
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,120
sometimes it changes the
universe.

1357
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,040
Sometimes it changes the Galaxy,
you know?

1358
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:11,560
And like, that's incredible.
And that's what I think would

1359
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,240
give somebody purpose is finding
that light from within, what

1360
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,320
that spark is within what makes
you feel whole and happy.

1361
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:24,960
And I don't know because you've,
you've you come across people

1362
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,280
who they just, they're so happy,
they feel whole and, and yet

1363
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,400
they're not really doing much
for the world.

1364
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,600
They're not doing much for their
career.

1365
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,240
But why are they happy and
whole?

1366
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:38,240
You think that in that case?
While some people live life off

1367
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,640
pleasure and I guess really
they're you don't know if

1368
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,240
they're happy, right?
When you look in, they might go

1369
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,440
home and and life full of
pleasure is not the same as life

1370
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,920
full of purpose, right?
And a lot of people substitute

1371
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,160
one for the other.
And then I think you burn out

1372
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,640
eventually with that too.
Yeah.

1373
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:03,200
I mean, it's in the Bible King
Solomon where or it's what

1374
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,640
attributed to King Solomon the
maybe this.

1375
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:11,080
Is all those wives and horses
and everything like 100 wives

1376
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:11,880
and thousand wives?
Now I'm.

1377
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,840
Blanking on it, but it's it's
the part of the Bible.

1378
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,720
Maybe this is just on the
Christianity basis.

1379
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,600
Yeah.
Is it Psalm?

1380
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,880
Psalm.
No, they did what it's it talks

1381
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,000
all about like where it's a
mystery writer.

1382
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,720
They I think they attributed to
King.

1383
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:27,880
Psalms.
Yeah, that was that was

1384
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,439
attributed to Solomon.
And they talk about like, like

1385
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,399
they've, they've had it all in
life.

1386
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,720
They've had nothing in life.
They've lived the pleasure of

1387
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:36,640
life.
They've lived like.

1388
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,560
Oh, oh, lemon.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

1389
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,359
You're thinking of what's the
English name it's called?

1390
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:47,040
I think it's Kohela in Hebrew,
but what's Ecclesiastes?

1391
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,840
No, it's.
So maybe it's plums?

1392
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,240
It is.
Because that goes, those have a

1393
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,000
lot of ups and downs.
Those have like, it's, it feels

1394
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,200
like the Lord's on my back and
like helps me conquer my

1395
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,479
enemies.
And the next day is like, why

1396
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,479
have you deserted me?
I'm like.

1397
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,800
Yeah.
So yeah, I just, it all comes

1398
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,680
back to I think mindset.
I think that we, especially in

1399
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,439
America are too focused.
Like you go through school, most

1400
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,279
people at that time, they don't
learn themselves.

1401
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:20,399
You're you're trying to always
be somebody or trying to be with

1402
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:22,319
friends or.
Yeah, that's why we need

1403
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,080
teachers, by the way.
That's why we need teachers.

1404
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,560
That's why we need good parents.
That's why.

1405
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,920
Do you ever be a teacher?
Comes back to leadership.

1406
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,520
It all comes back to leadership,
whether it's a teacher.

1407
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,520
I want to be a teacher in terms
of like holistic side of things,

1408
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,319
like keeping people happy and
healthy.

1409
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,200
Yeah, but you can play that in
academic sense.

1410
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:39,960
You could teach that in
university.

1411
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,760
I mean, I'm not boxing.
Myself in for sure, but that's

1412
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,880
why I'm getting out of sales,
getting out of real estate and

1413
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:50,240
and pursuing physical therapy.
I don't know if we've actually.

1414
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:50,640
We did.
We did.

1415
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,319
You told me they were going to
do that.

1416
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,640
Between the anthropology and the
physical therapy, well, I've

1417
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,160
been accepted.
You told me at Tim Dylan.

1418
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,680
I think I.
Fully applied to NSU now.

1419
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,200
Yeah.
It was at Tim Dylan at the

1420
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,200
comedy show that we had the last
combo.

1421
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,160
So I'm now I, I'm.
I'm waiting to find out if I'm

1422
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:11,080
if I'm going to get accepted MSU
if or maybe apply to FAU.

1423
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,920
But so that's the path is, is
physical therapy sweet?

1424
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,360
And so for me, it's I, I
realized, OK, that aligns a lot

1425
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,880
with who I am naturally.
I don't have to be anybody else.

1426
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,800
I can authentically be myself
and look at you and say I want

1427
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,680
to make you healthy like you.
Could also be a one stop shop

1428
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,000
for mental health too and
physical mental psychology.

1429
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,720
Psychology was up there in the
running with physical therapy.

1430
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,600
Yeah.
But I look at it as like the

1431
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,840
whole holistic approach, like
those pillars of life, like I

1432
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,400
I've, I've done the work for
myself and I just want to give

1433
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,600
that to other people.
And hopefully my credentials

1434
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,200
with physical therapy will allow
me to open those doors and have

1435
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,960
this conversation maybe even
someday step on a stage instead

1436
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,920
of just sitting in a clinic and
helping with very specific

1437
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,680
problems I want to take.
OK, I can help you physically,

1438
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,600
but also maybe that's.
Not you should do that.

1439
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,200
You got to network.
It is.

1440
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,040
You got to know because you got
to you got to meet people, then

1441
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,760
you got to find speaking
opportunities and then you get

1442
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,280
up and then but you can, you
could dude, you could make

1443
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,120
especially in today's world,
because there is a lot of

1444
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,360
science that does back it talk,
you know, the relationship

1445
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,760
between physical health and and
and emotional, mental and and

1446
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,480
you know, health.
Down to the physiological side

1447
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:30,040
of your body, dude, the fact
that your yeah, oh, sorry, your

1448
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:34,120
emotions, your thoughts trigger
your emotions, your emotions

1449
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,680
trigger physiological changes in
your body, which it's.

1450
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,680
You want to talk about fight or
flight like we're not living in

1451
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,200
the barbaric days where fight or
flight is just whether you feel

1452
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,640
like you're going to die or not.
We have anxiety and depression

1453
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,880
and it's because our our
physiological side of our body

1454
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,960
is not keeping up with.
That's really.

1455
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,280
Interesting.
The things that we're going

1456
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,680
through in today's date days,
the problems we put on ourselves

1457
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,600
because we don't know ourselves
well enough.

1458
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,600
We don't know, like we allow
ourselves to get stressed out

1459
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,640
over little things.
And if you were sit down and

1460
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,680
say, you know what, the fact
that I'm doom scrolling and I'm

1461
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,760
seeing all this negativity, I
think I can just turn my phone

1462
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,840
off.
But my body is internally like

1463
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,360
processing this differently.
It's creating emotions that are

1464
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,880
going to carry with me
throughout the rest of my day.

1465
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,800
So if I wake up in the morning,
I look at my phone, OK, it's

1466
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,360
negativity.
I can put it away.

1467
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,720
But now I'm carrying that
throughout the day.

1468
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,840
My energy is going to be lower.
So unless you're intentional,

1469
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,200
unless you're aware of this, you
wake up in the morning and you

1470
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,520
try and implement positive
things or you try and like you

1471
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,800
protect yourself because you
know that things are out there

1472
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,720
that are, that are like changing
your perspective.

1473
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:47,920
Yeah.
Does that make sense?

1474
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,160
I, I, I think, dude, I think
that I think that the only thing

1475
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,120
I, I think that it's a great
idea.

1476
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,560
I don't think there's anything
stopping you.

1477
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:02,520
I think it's literally just a
matter of maintaining, keeping

1478
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:08,120
up those schools of thought and
and and continuing to practice

1479
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,520
and preach about how relevant
they are.

1480
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,880
I think doing both is really
important.

1481
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:20,080
And then that will help people
wake up to that reality.

1482
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,800
I think that again, the biggest
problem is that people don't

1483
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:23,880
know.
But I think a lot of people are

1484
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,400
learning.
I think a lot of people are

1485
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:29,200
figuring out, dude, I, I, I, my
DEXA, my Dexa cells are through

1486
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,440
the roof because everyone wants
body wants to find out their

1487
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:33,400
body fat composition.
Everyone wants to do their whole

1488
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,360
body scans.
Fake health and Wellness kick

1489
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,320
right now.
Yeah, Yeah.

1490
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:42,600
But my concern with that is
anytime there's a new trend was

1491
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:48,320
a good trend, it can and a good
trend corporations will find a

1492
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,720
way to profit off.
Yeah.

1493
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,400
And anytime there's profit, I
think that can start to scoop

1494
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,120
things.
I meet people now who are claim

1495
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:01,440
to be very into health and
Wellness and they eat candy all

1496
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:04,600
throughout the day.
We'll have a an addiction to to

1497
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:09,080
Coca-Cola, but they say they do
the sauna and then cold plunge

1498
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,360
and then sauna like they go to a
health and Wellness Center.

1499
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,160
And they're watching, you know,
isn't it so much better still

1500
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,720
than what people would do
otherwise?

1501
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,240
We're in a step of the right
direction, but I don't want to

1502
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,760
see people get like confused in
that where you're just kind of

1503
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,520
putting a Band-Aid over what's
really important.

1504
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,200
Yeah.
So this goes back I think to the

1505
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:36,720
scientist talk, which is I think
that we are relatively close to

1506
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,360
a post capitalist society.
We're a combination of.

1507
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:43,000
What does that even look?
Like I'll tell you, I, I think

1508
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,720
capitalism, I'm excited.
Capitalism is just basically the

1509
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,920
need to create value in order to
sustain yourself.

1510
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,200
OK, Right.
And so everyone is competitive

1511
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,960
to create some kind of aspect of
that.

1512
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:53,880
That's what.
It is.

1513
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,000
Right now we're in capitalist
society where literally it's

1514
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,600
like a game of Jenga.
I think people are taken from

1515
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,240
the bottom.
The wealth gap is getting.

1516
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,760
That's a good point, yeah.
And these people are putting it

1517
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,320
the the billionaires.
They're taken from the bottom,

1518
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,680
put into the top, and eventually
it all collapses.

1519
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,960
It's not just billionaires,
corporations that act as

1520
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,280
individuals because they're
given individual rights in

1521
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,200
America, which is crazy.
But that's another conversation

1522
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,560
that obviously like.
I've thought about that too.

1523
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,520
Like what?
Capitalism in inherently is not

1524
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,840
bad, No, it's not.
But it does get to the point

1525
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,240
where like people.
Short term capitalism, the John

1526
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,480
Perkins who wrote this great
books economic the confessions

1527
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:34,160
of an economic hitman who's very
involved in this world was an

1528
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,080
advice to World Bank and bunch
of governments and helped

1529
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,320
overthrow like a bunch of a
bunch of countries.

1530
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:45,640
Yeah, yeah, he he said that
there's different types of

1531
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,120
capitalism and this one's called
the death capitalism, where

1532
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,720
you're basically short term
profits over any kind of

1533
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,120
consequence and you deal with
the consequences another time.

1534
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,520
Yeah.
And that's basically they the,

1535
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,360
the, the, it's called killing
the golden.

1536
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:00,880
It's called killing the golden
goose, right?

1537
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,720
You're, you're, you're literally
eating the source of your life.

1538
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:08,280
And like real intelligent people
would say that.

1539
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,000
And you know, it's also a
biblical story, but whatever

1540
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,920
people would say for themselves,
like, listen, if I know that

1541
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:20,280
eggs are expensive, I'm not
going to make an egg party and

1542
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,240
invite all my friends over and
eat all the eggs that I have in

1543
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,000
my house.
I'm going to have them, you

1544
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,720
know, carefully.
And I'm going to rash and then

1545
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,920
I'm going to think about them
and like, you know, like you

1546
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,720
have a limited resource and
they're expensive and I don't

1547
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,560
want to.
And people do this gas too,

1548
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,160
right?
And there's actually a form of

1549
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:37,360
economic slavery where people
are literally confined to their

1550
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,080
lives because they can't afford
to do anything else because the

1551
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,760
whole world is.
And we're getting, America

1552
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,680
itself is getting much closer to
that place we're getting.

1553
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,720
Squeezed.
Dude, Ford, I just saw yesterday

1554
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,360
an unusual whales, which is an
amazing ex count to follow.

1555
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,000
I think it said I'm actually
going to pull it up because I

1556
01:16:53,000 --> 01:17:00,040
took it as my wife blew my mind
that hang on.

1557
01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:05,000
And so 40% of them, oh sorry,
40% of Americans said they have.

1558
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,480
OK, right there.
You've seen the signs.

1559
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,520
The signs the Domino's are
starting to tip you, you, you,

1560
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:55,960
you see our our administration
saying you know the stock market

1561
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,560
is hitting all time.
Yeah, of course the economy is.

1562
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,600
Great.
But you see the oil prices

1563
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,440
hiked.
You see the groceries.

1564
01:18:02,440 --> 01:18:04,960
The groceries are hiked up, the
gas prices are hiked up.

1565
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,560
People are struggling and and I
and you notice that more and

1566
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,120
more.
But you know how that, you know

1567
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,040
the economics of that work?
You know the way that you can do

1568
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:20,920
that, approximately 3 people or
four people own like 50 plus

1569
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,440
percent of America's wealth.
Yeah.

1570
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,960
If they make 10% returns on
their investments and the rest

1571
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:33,800
of the country loses 3%, right?
The top 10% makes.

1572
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,600
The country that the economy as
a whole went up 4%.

1573
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,520
Everyone lost 3%.
They made 10%.

1574
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,160
So hang on, I lost the math over
there in my head, right?

1575
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,640
Duh.
But everyone else lost. 50% of

1576
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:55,560
the population went down 3%, but
50% of the population or 50% or

1577
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,880
so, went up 10%.
The economy is still a net

1578
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,240
positive, even though everyone
even though. 19% were making

1579
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,000
three.
Percent yeah, lost 3% lost 3%

1580
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,240
not even gained 3%, right?
Like so if Elon Musk reports or

1581
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,600
Jeff Bezos reports that they
make that they made 10% profit

1582
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,920
this year and then then the the
rest of Americans, everyone else

1583
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,520
in America said that they lost
3% year over year.

1584
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,040
Trump would still say, or Biden
would say it's it's on the left

1585
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,880
to right thing, positive thing.
Yeah, they would say that the

1586
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,640
economy is up.
Yeah, economy is doing really

1587
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,600
just, but it's not.
Of course it's not.

1588
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,960
Yeah, of course it's not.
What's scary to me is we see

1589
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,880
that right and then we see the
numbers at the we see the

1590
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:39,760
inflation and then we have hard,
we have the betting all of this

1591
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,720
like, OK, now the SEC is going
to.

1592
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,680
Gambling.
You mean there's, well,

1593
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,200
investing is now gambling?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have Kaushi

1594
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,280
or whatever.
I mean, people are.

1595
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,160
It's the predictive markets
people can now just bet on.

1596
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,360
Polymarket.
Housing Polymarket.

1597
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,280
Trump said yesterday the
country's kind of become a

1598
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,160
casino.
Yes, I didn't know he said that,

1599
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:03,280
but that's.
He said that yesterday.

1600
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:04,600
He's.
Putting that out there, he said

1601
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,440
that admitting that why are we
doing that?

1602
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,920
Why are why are the people who
are struggling now it's easier

1603
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,240
for them to bet away their
money.

1604
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,080
We know casinos are not good for
people and the people that go to

1605
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,520
casinos and lose the money are
the ones who can't really afford

1606
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:22,600
to lose it.
The house always wins but but so

1607
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,840
even in day trading it used to
be a $25,000 limit.

1608
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,480
You had to have $25,000 in your
account to be able to day trade

1609
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:33,960
for a certain period.
They just made a past it where

1610
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,160
that's no longer a thing.
So starting here soon anybody

1611
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:38,520
can day trade as much as they
want.

1612
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,840
Well, if you're uneducated and
and.

1613
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,320
Yeah, but then there are the the
argument would be you should

1614
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,320
know not to day trade if you're
if you're if you're uneducated

1615
01:20:49,480 --> 01:20:51,840
and the government shouldn't be
involved in regulating who's day

1616
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,840
trading or not would be the
argument.

1617
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,720
I understand that, but at the
same time we're, we're, we know

1618
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,160
that's not the case right now.
We're opening it up.

1619
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,400
Anybody can, cannot go buy a
lottery ticket every single day.

1620
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,720
But there's people and generally
the people who are just hoping

1621
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,280
to win that money, they're the
ones buying the lottery ticket

1622
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,680
every single day.
The generally the people who are

1623
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,400
financially smart are not going
to go spend their money on a

1624
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:16,960
lottery and gamble and do things
like that.

1625
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,440
They value their dollars.
But we are oppressing people.

1626
01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:22,400
We're making the wage gaps
worse.

1627
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,680
And then now we're opening it up
to, well, you can gamble more.

1628
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,560
So of course they're going to
gamble more.

1629
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,680
Of course they're going to take
the shot because it's the only.

1630
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,760
Dude, parlays are are crazy.
I'm watching my friends.

1631
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,840
I'm watching my friends gamble.
Like, and you know, I mean, I

1632
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,160
this is anecdotal, but.
If friends who have money are

1633
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,200
doing this, imagine people who
don't have money who?

1634
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,080
No, a lot of people I know, a
lot of people I know in general

1635
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,520
that are not rolling in cash are
still betting or are still

1636
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,000
gambling very frequently.
Exactly.

1637
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,680
So it's it's a common thing.
Everybody's doing it.

1638
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,600
I bet on sports and things like.
I can't anymore by the way too.

1639
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,120
It hurts me mad because I'm
always comparative with that.

1640
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:06,720
So I'm like, if my 20 bucks like
let's say win 40, that's fine.

1641
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:10,360
I want to spend like 20 or $40
and like still be like, like I'd

1642
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,040
still rather go to a brewery and
like spend 20 bucks and hang out

1643
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,040
at the brewery then potentially
win 40 and hang out at home.

1644
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,240
Like I think, I think the
experience, the trade off is not

1645
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,080
like I never think it's worth
it, but I told but until I won

1646
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,160
the last time and I'm like, Oh
shit, that feels pretty good,

1647
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,120
You know, exactly.
It doesn't like I got to stay

1648
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,520
away and.
It's the same thing.

1649
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:30,920
I go into a casino and and and
somehow I make $200 within

1650
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,120
seconds of being there.
But I've you.

1651
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,920
Can't walk out I.
Can't just leave, have their

1652
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,560
ticks to enjoy.
I don't think I'm on a roll.

1653
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,480
So I'll stay there.
And then within 30 minutes that

1654
01:22:41,480 --> 01:22:45,280
200's gone and now I'm back to
like, you know, And so we're

1655
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,240
opening the whole world up to
this, I think.

1656
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:52,000
I think the regulations were
good because you shouldn't be

1657
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,480
able to just gamble.
I don't know.

1658
01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:56,280
Oh.
By the way, I'm not I'm not even

1659
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,440
anti regulation.
I think this corruption no

1660
01:22:58,440 --> 01:23:01,720
matter what, yeah, I want to I
want to get back to post

1661
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,440
capitalism, but I got to.
I got to piss real bad one

1662
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:04,120
second.
And I need.

1663
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,480
We're live again.
Hey, so we got we took a little

1664
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:14,800
intermission little pea break.
Post capitalism, I was going to

1665
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,480
say, I think we're talking about
like post capitalism.

1666
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:18,560
OK.
I think I don't know what it's

1667
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,080
going to be called, right?
This.

1668
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,760
Is the conversations we need to
have because it obviously

1669
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,600
capitalism is not going to last
forever.

1670
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,440
I mean, the way that it's going
to last now in America, it can't

1671
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:32,160
last much longer than it is,
because the way that it's

1672
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,920
working right now is it's
basically leeching.

1673
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:40,160
It's using the American citizens
and the homelands as a leaching

1674
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,760
the life and the resources out
of them in order to continue its

1675
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:48,200
own goal of consumption and
profit.

1676
01:23:48,440 --> 01:23:51,200
And like there's no end goal
other than just more of it.

1677
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,600
And like that is what?
Happens when you squeeze it dry.

1678
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:54,960
You.
Know so I'm not right.

1679
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,320
So that's going to happen one
way or the other.

1680
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,920
It's we're close to squeezing it
dry and what's going to happen

1681
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:01,920
is a crash and bailouts and
whatever it is and I was going

1682
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,600
to be held responsible until
they are or until someone does

1683
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,880
another Mario, what's his name
Luigi.

1684
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:13,080
Luigi with the healthcare CEO.
But I think that I think, but

1685
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,000
the way that I'm thinking from
my understanding right now is

1686
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,400
that the we're getting soon,
shortly.

1687
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,360
I think that, first of all,
where we are talking

1688
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:24,440
technologically is far more
advanced than what we have

1689
01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:28,080
integrated into society.
So we are capable of running

1690
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:32,200
society and creating value and
efficiency at a much higher

1691
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,200
level than we're actually what's
actually being practiced.

1692
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,080
That makes sense.
Yeah.

1693
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,600
Like what we can do is way
greater than what we are doing

1694
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,080
and part of the reason.
We're limited by our

1695
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,000
perspective.
We limited by our perspective,

1696
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,400
we're limited by the fact that
people have to, you know, like

1697
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,840
for example of the oil industry
collapse overnight, right?

1698
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,640
We know that nuclear energy is
like clean, incredible,

1699
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,240
definitely the future.
The question is when you don't

1700
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,160
think that scientists have
figured out like, applicable

1701
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,040
ways to just turn regular, Of
course they have.

1702
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,120
Like, I have a friend, one of my
best growing, one of my best

1703
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:05,520
friends when growing up was in
MIT and he got a car 10 years

1704
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,840
ago to run on aluminum battery,
aluminum pellets.

1705
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,920
BMW donated an I3 to his lab.
He took out the engine, they got

1706
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,320
it and they built a new engine
running on aluminum pellets and

1707
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,240
they drove the car around Boston
and it worked, right.

1708
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,040
And I did a podcast with a woman
15 years ago or 20 years ago.

1709
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,160
Yeah, that's alternative energy.
That the, the, the point is that

1710
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,960
we don't, we don't need gas the
way that it is.

1711
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,960
I did a woman, I did a podcast
with a woman recently who told

1712
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,280
me in 2010 she was doing.
She she, she teamed up.

1713
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,880
She's a physiologist and
neurobiologist.

1714
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,280
She teamed up with an
engineering professor and using

1715
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,160
a lot.
You using this kind of hat,

1716
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:49,240
metal hat with like using EEG
waves, they were able to control

1717
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,080
and pilot drones completely
using their minds.

1718
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,960
This was in 2010.
We're in 2026.

1719
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,040
You're telling me that we know
that, that, that this technology

1720
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,760
isn't available.
So then so, so with robotics and

1721
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,960
AI being where they are,
especially when you can melt

1722
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,000
them, that's going to create
unprecedented wealth because

1723
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,840
it's all time cheap to create
infinitely more value.

1724
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,000
And hopefully nuclear
alternative energy is the same

1725
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,520
thing.
Yeah, Hopefully more people with

1726
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:22,280
mindsets, I guess like us, are
able to capitalize on these.

1727
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,640
Well, we have so I think that
what's happening with a lot of

1728
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,440
the scientists that are being
killed is that there hold back

1729
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:30,200
to science.
There is hold right, right,

1730
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,880
right.
We're holding back.

1731
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,680
We're holding back progress
right now.

1732
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,160
We're living in a world that
ever.

1733
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:41,480
Since what was it like people
who were like inventing things

1734
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:44,720
and then like those ideas never
yeah, they fell flat or never

1735
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:46,680
went anywhere and people like
this could have changed things

1736
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,840
but yes.
Because it would revolutionize 1

1737
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,560
area and destroy another and.
And by the way, right.

1738
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,200
And at what expense?
And is the trade off worth it

1739
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,680
and for what?
And a lot of times so, but when

1740
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,280
everything becomes so cheap,
when energy becomes so cheap

1741
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,440
that it just can't be contained
anymore, when robotics and

1742
01:27:04,440 --> 01:27:09,640
engineering and AI come together
to create mass again, we don't

1743
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,280
think about the bread we buying
the store.

1744
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,760
We're not going to think about
the houses that we have to own.

1745
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,080
Like we're going to think like
that's just going to be cheap

1746
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,600
and easy.
That's just, and like it could

1747
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,320
be good, it could be durable.
But you know, what could be the

1748
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,040
new renaissance now that you
could build a house for almost

1749
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,240
nothing?
What kind of house do you want

1750
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,480
is ever going to live in the
same 2 by 4?

1751
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,880
You know, I mean, have you have
you gone to hung out in those

1752
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,520
gated communities in Orlando
where all the houses are all the

1753
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,000
same thing, like champions gate
or Indian Creek or anything like

1754
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,480
that?
They're all the same shit,

1755
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:39,880
right?
Like are you going to live in a

1756
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,640
copy paste world like that's
kind of dystopian or like a

1757
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,480
potential for all this
creativity?

1758
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,000
I want my your house is going to
be on the beach with Hawaii and

1759
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:49,800
you know, with all this
incredible nature and it's going

1760
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,680
to reflect you.
You have your universe.

1761
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,800
Though, I mean, look at the we,
I'm selling houses from the 50s,

1762
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,080
sixties that people want to just
like, okay, we're going to

1763
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,760
completely remodel this.
We're going to make it the same

1764
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,480
as the last house that sold for
this amount to copy that.

1765
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,800
We're all white kids.
That's only.

1766
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,720
Because you're being driven by
the need to copy the thing that

1767
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:12,840
made money.
What do you need?

1768
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:13,280
A.
Copy for you.

1769
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,520
Look, back in the day, people
would paint their houses crazy

1770
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,920
colors.
Yeah, you used to have a, a pink

1771
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,160
bath.
Yeah, dude, people would make

1772
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,560
things.
Remember the house you showed me

1773
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,480
next door with the with?
The blue and like it beta it was

1774
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:28,520
functional to them, it was to
their liking.

1775
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,400
Now we all have to think about
how do I make this for the next?

1776
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,160
Person You ever read The
Fountainhead by Ayn Rand?

1777
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,560
I didn't realize what a
controversial book it is and I

1778
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,400
still don't really get why it
is, but it's an incredible,

1779
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:45,320
incredible book.
And I mean, I, I don't agree

1780
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:49,200
with all of what she does in the
book, but I think that that it's

1781
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,000
a remarkable work of philosophy
fiction and like, it really

1782
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,640
makes you think about your life.
What is it called?

1783
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,000
It's called The Fountainhead.
It's a little bit slow to start.

1784
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,440
It was written I think in the
50s or maybe the 40s by Ayn Rand

1785
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:06,520
AYNRAND.
And she was a really, really

1786
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,360
interesting character.
Sure.

1787
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,400
Atlas Shrugged 2, which you may
have heard of, these are like,

1788
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,320
yeah, these are crazy books.
And she was like super anti

1789
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,440
communist came from I think a
Russian like communist, you

1790
01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:22,120
know, came from communist the
USSR and like loved capitalism.

1791
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,600
But one thing that she believed
was like Objectivism and

1792
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,440
basically that everyone is their
own little world and like should

1793
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,560
pursue their meaning.
And that's how we should

1794
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,040
approach each other is like,
hey, like now how do you fit

1795
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:38,080
into my purse paradigm?
But I should want to ask you

1796
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,240
questions and get something
about you and you and and see

1797
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,600
what's going on in your world.
But I don't know we.

1798
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,400
So you think that the the fact
that kids want to be

1799
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,800
influencers, a big part of being
an influencer is having that

1800
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,160
kind of access to information.
You think that there's a desire

1801
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:58,120
for like more information that
makes kids want to be like in

1802
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,080
this world.
Do you think it's purely like

1803
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,320
ego?
Like I want to be famous.

1804
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,640
I want like a million likes on
TikTok or Twitter or whatever.

1805
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,880
It is both.
Both I think you think there's

1806
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:11,160
like, I think there's a huge
pressure around kids to be able

1807
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:16,520
to, to be known on social media.
Like that is the go to.

1808
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,040
You get things from social
media.

1809
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,840
You kind of find your if, if for
somebody who's maybe not as

1810
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:26,600
accepted in the school they're
in, they can they can be

1811
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:30,000
accepted online, they can find
their niche online, like things

1812
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,240
like that.
There's always the good side and

1813
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,200
the bad side, dude.
Social media has has given us a

1814
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,680
wealth of information, but at
the same time, you can get lost

1815
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,600
in that, the fact that there's
so much information.

1816
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,520
It's tough because I see the
goods and the bads.

1817
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:51,920
I think we need, I think.
We need more leaders.

1818
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,560
We need.
That's going to be if you come,

1819
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,760
if it comes down to I think it's
educational.

1820
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:01,840
Behall, we need the kids to know
that this is a very You're

1821
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,840
growing up in a time that
resources and information are

1822
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:10,080
indisposable at your fingertips,
and you can do so much, the

1823
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,440
opportunities are limited.
That's why we need personalized

1824
01:31:12,440 --> 01:31:15,880
education, dude.
But you have to know that you

1825
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:20,600
can get lost in that too, and
that you can be very easily

1826
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:27,200
influenced and.
You get misdirected for sure.

1827
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,120
So we need people who know how
to teach that foundation they

1828
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:31,160
need.
Free thinking.

1829
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,800
Households that are whole, yeah,
not, not broken up and divorced

1830
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,600
households and the divorce rates
climbing.

1831
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,720
Dude it's over 55% or something
like.

1832
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,400
That way.
But it's definitely higher than

1833
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,360
that that these days.
And it exactly and so.

1834
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,120
And that's among the people that
are even getting married.

1835
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,400
Yeah, which is decreasing as
well.

1836
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,760
Is that people having kids
decreasing as well?

1837
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:55,200
So if there are people who are
focused on profit and only

1838
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,240
profit, and they are aware of
this, just like we're aware of

1839
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,640
this, they can, it can be
manipulated as well as it can.

1840
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,920
Be it's not just profit, by the
way, it's any because you

1841
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,680
mentioned it before in life,
it's anything.

1842
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,160
And if you are one, if you're
just uniformly focused on one

1843
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:13,960
thing, you're screwed.
You can't be you got to be

1844
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,920
well-rounded.
You can't know no one's a one

1845
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,760
person person.
And like, listen, the Elon Musks

1846
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,040
and the Steve Jobs of the world
and the Jeff Bezos of the world,

1847
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:25,080
They're fucked up people.
Yeah, you know, like they're not

1848
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,840
I I wouldn't they're they're
they're definitely not all good,

1849
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,720
but far from it.
They're definitely complicated.

1850
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,080
They're definitely broken and
hurt in a lot of different deep

1851
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:38,640
ways, and a lot of them will
even probably attribute their

1852
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,840
success to their pay to, to to
the, to the fact that they're

1853
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,880
broken.
Like I'm Elon Musk needs to be a

1854
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:49,240
broken person to sleep under his
desk at every job and every

1855
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,600
company he goes to, even though
he has upwards of $100 million.

1856
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,360
I look at it this way and I and
I learned this from David

1857
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:59,360
Goggins through Fitness.
David Goggins is a crazy guy.

1858
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:00,600
Do you know who he is?
Yeah, of course.

1859
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,240
He's he's crazy.
We're aspiring to be David

1860
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,920
Goggins, but he carries the
torch and pushes the boundaries

1861
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:10,200
further to show us that we can
do a little bit more.

1862
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,520
So baby Goggins, I'm not, I
don't think his.

1863
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,720
He's living a balanced life, you
know, he's.

1864
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,400
He's not living a balanced life,
but his job, but by the way, but

1865
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,120
his role could be.
It's a it.

1866
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,200
Doesn't happen to others.
Yes, and we need people like

1867
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,560
that and and, but we don't need
people like that controlling

1868
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,360
everything.
But we need to respect.

1869
01:33:29,440 --> 01:33:32,200
They need to be the teachers.
They're teachers in their own

1870
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:35,680
sense exactly, But we need to be
able to be our own person to be

1871
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,920
able to say we can take from
that and not have to be just

1872
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,760
that.
If I'm listening to people, this

1873
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:47,520
world is right now, we're full
of these motivational coaches

1874
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,880
and everybody's online telling
you how to live your life and

1875
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,040
following that, you know, you
need to be able to follow that

1876
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,560
and take pieces of it without
letting that be your whole

1877
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,760
persona to like to replicate
that.

1878
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,760
But if we'd I like, if you grow
up in a broken household or, or

1879
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,840
you're somebody who I think is
easily influenced, sometimes

1880
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,600
you're you're too susceptible to
that.

1881
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,040
And we're all and people are
doom scrolling these days.

1882
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,320
So it's like they're highly
susceptible.

1883
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:19,520
To me, yeah, yeah, yeah, we
need, yeah, yeah, we need to

1884
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:20,560
keep better.
Leaders.

1885
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,760
We need to keep, we need better
education, we need better

1886
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:24,240
leaders.
Dude, you should.

1887
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,240
There's a couple of Billy
Strings songs you could check

1888
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:27,240
out.
Put me on dude.

1889
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,160
I love Billy Strings, dude.
It's sending me the best songs

1890
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,920
with Billy Strings.
And it's funny because just as

1891
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,200
you put me on Billy String that
I started listening to him.

1892
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:37,760
He covered the devil went down
to Georgia.

1893
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:41,480
Dude favorite.
Songs growing up, it's like that

1894
01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:45,280
song Devil went down to Georgia.
Zach Brown is a good version a

1895
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:46,520
good version of the two.
Does he?

1896
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:47,920
Oh, I have to listen to that
too.

1897
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,800
The original 1.
I don't know what it is my but I

1898
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:57,160
remember core memory.
My dad would sing that song like

1899
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,040
it would come on.
It was like a hype song to him.

1900
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,840
So like I remember that.
It brings me back to that.

1901
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,560
Charlie Daniels Band.
And then so yeah, so then I'm

1902
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,080
looking up Billy Strings and I
see he that day like I'm leaving

1903
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:08,520
the.
House.

1904
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,280
And I'm like.
Oh, this is sad.

1905
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,480
Yeah, so funny.
He has a great song called

1906
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:16,880
Wargasm which is I think I
listened to.

1907
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,560
That I think you told me about.
That which is crazy.

1908
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,880
And then there was one called
Leaders, which is also similar.

1909
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:28,640
And it's funny because it's a,
it feels like a genuine

1910
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,880
grassroots movement where it's
not real.

1911
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:36,320
Like there's no, I'm really,
there's a podcasting I'm doing

1912
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:37,960
soon.
I'm reading this book that this

1913
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,960
guy wrote about basically
political polarization and why

1914
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:45,200
everything is so extreme.
I did a podcast with another

1915
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,440
guy, Jim Thurber, that talked
about it a little bit.

1916
01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:49,800
He talked about lobbying too,
which is really interesting.

1917
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:57,880
But one thing that happened was
as it used to be that everyone

1918
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,960
kind of had the same values, and
then the difference would be the

1919
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,160
policies as to what the best way
to implement those values were.

1920
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:08,080
And then values started getting
split up with party lines too.

1921
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:18,720
So like things like immigration
and things like, I would things

1922
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,880
like, like immigration would
kind of be like mutually agreed

1923
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:23,360
on like by everyone.
Like I don't know if you'd ever

1924
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,320
saw videos of like Hillary or
Obama talking about immigration

1925
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,160
like relative to Trump.
But like, you know, like at the

1926
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,600
time that was like a universal
opinion.

1927
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,480
Like Americans had a perspective
on immigration.

1928
01:36:33,480 --> 01:36:36,040
And then like the question
became a matter of policy, where

1929
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:37,920
what money should go where?
How do you, how do you, what's

1930
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:39,640
the best way to deal with it?
And that's kind of where you got

1931
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,400
split up between left and right.
And now the question is, is

1932
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,320
immigration a problem, period,
Yes or no, You know?

1933
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,240
And then those become party
lines and that.

1934
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,400
And so the conversations become
inherently more extreme because

1935
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,640
they're more about morals and
ethics and stuff like that

1936
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:58,720
rather than just what a policy.
Is and and as we failed over the

1937
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:00,680
years, like that becomes
solidified.

1938
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:04,080
And you know, dude, it wasn't
that long ago when segregation

1939
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,600
was a thing, when women had no
rights, like, but we look back

1940
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,640
on, you could look back at
commercials in the 2000s and be

1941
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,680
like, Oh my gosh.
We have as we.

1942
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,960
Said on TV.
Yeah, and that's because the the

1943
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,440
world was, not that the world
was.

1944
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:23,640
We're moving in a better
direction and that goes without

1945
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:25,680
saying.
Just looking over the years,

1946
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:27,640
yeah.
And so that's why that I think

1947
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,920
we can have a positive outlook.
I think so too.

1948
01:37:30,440 --> 01:37:33,080
And these important, these
conversations are important.

1949
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,240
We need just need.
We just need people to connect

1950
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,320
more, get off the phones, talk
in person.

1951
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,240
Realize I saw something the
other day.

1952
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:48,040
It was like it was a phone in
like a public phone in a

1953
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,960
Republican state, in a public
phone in a Democrat state.

1954
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,560
And they could just pick it up
like the sign above it said,

1955
01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:56,160
speak to basically the other
party.

1956
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,840
And they recorded what the
conversations were.

1957
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,720
And many of them were positive.
They had this positive

1958
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,040
conversation.
There was like very little

1959
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,320
actual arguing.
But then you go on social media

1960
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:10,240
and you see this in the news and
everything is so polarized.

1961
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,560
It's also, by the way, I don't
know if you ever had the

1962
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,040
experience, but like posting
something where like you get a

1963
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,080
lot of like get a lot of shit
for it, like a lot of like

1964
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,320
vehemently negative responses.
Celebrities.

1965
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,080
It's crazy reading comments,
dude.

1966
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:27,040
They're like, I don't, I can't.
Read not I, I I I Yeah, yeah.

1967
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,520
I've been posting everyday to
try and build the podcast and

1968
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,480
build the presents online.
I love it.

1969
01:38:31,480 --> 01:38:34,400
Yeah, I appreciate it, dude.
It takes a lot of work, man.

1970
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,320
It's fun, but it's actually,
it's actually funny.

1971
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:38,640
It doesn't take a ton of work
for me.

1972
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:40,640
It's my, my wife edits the
videos.

1973
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,480
I just record them quickly.
She tells me if it's a shit take

1974
01:38:43,480 --> 01:38:46,200
or not.
And then and then she edits them

1975
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:50,080
and then I post them.
But I know the master.

1976
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,200
Master Oh, dude, dude, she yeah,
yeah, sometimes, sometimes

1977
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:56,920
she'll ask me for like, I don't
know what to put for like when

1978
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,520
you're saying this as a visual,
but like generally like she's

1979
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,440
awesome like.
Yeah, I know their videos are

1980
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:02,160
great.
I love them.

1981
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:05,920
I, I remember like when you
first started doing it and I

1982
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,360
think it's, I think it's.
Yeah, dude, it's.

1983
01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:12,280
Because I'm on Instagram much
more than I'm checking out on

1984
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:13,240
Spotify.
So.

1985
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,680
But then you post something like
that and I see, oh, that's

1986
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:16,640
interesting.
Yeah.

1987
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,080
And then I go listen to the
podcast.

1988
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:19,880
That's awesome.
You know, that's the goal.

1989
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:21,520
Definitely helps.
That's the goal.

1990
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,560
Gotta get there, man.
Gotta get there.

1991
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:24,920
All right, Should we wrap this
up, dude?

1992
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:26,520
We should wrap this up.
Yeah.

1993
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:32,080
Let me know first what are like
2 books that you're reading or

1994
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,200
suggests that I read.
I'm right now I've been doing

1995
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:39,960
the philosophy.
I think so so.

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Do you want to keep going down
that track?

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01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,120
Do you want to break from?
It I might want to break from

1998
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,040
it, yeah.
So I'll give you a book called

1999
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,240
Empire of AI by a woman named
Karen Howe in San from San

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01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:49,480
Francisco.
I have a copy of it.

2001
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:53,000
I finished it OK.
I don't know if you prefer hard

2002
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,360
copies or listening audiobooks
or this sounds.

2003
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:59,200
Just very aligning because I'm
going to the Ted X in Miami up

2004
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,240
and it's all about future of
humanity and AI.

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01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:07,240
There you go.
That one I think was really

2006
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:09,840
cool.
I enjoyed that one.

2007
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:17,120
I read a really crazy book
called Empire of Pain about that

2008
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,760
one's about the Sackler family.
And I don't know if you know

2009
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:25,000
Sackler is, but they're Purdue
Pharma and they're behind

2010
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,960
Oxycontin and they're behind
Valium and they're behind and

2011
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,280
they actually started.
This is an incredible story that

2012
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:35,000
they, that Arthur Sackler, who
started the company in like the

2013
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:39,080
early 1900s, was a psychiatrist,
I believe.

2014
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,800
And he started his, he started
looking into pharmaceuticals

2015
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:48,360
because he wanted to find a more
humane way to deal with patients

2016
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,680
and mental asylums then
lobotomies and electroshock

2017
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:53,760
therapy.
So he started for like this

2018
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,560
incredible purpose, like he
like.

2019
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,920
And how it changed.
And then over time it turned

2020
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,720
into, and then in order to, and
then, and then he kind of, he,

2021
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:05,840
he's the person that melded the
world of marketing and the world

2022
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:09,160
of pharmaceuticals.
He created that industry, he

2023
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,440
created that world.
And he's, and what he did was

2024
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,080
they would do research and
development, create a drug.

2025
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:20,160
He funded medical journals.
So the medical journals would

2026
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:23,920
review the drugs that he was
manufacturing and developing and

2027
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:25,920
then?
Like peer reviewing kind of

2028
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,200
thing.
Yeah, basically given, you know,

2029
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:32,880
a medical clear to go like by a
group of doctors that he would

2030
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,920
he would fund, he would fund the
research and then say hey, by

2031
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,160
the way, we're sending over this
new painkiller that we're

2032
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,880
working on, you know, let us
know what you think of it.

2033
01:41:41,480 --> 01:41:43,200
Obviously, you know, you're
going to think of it, you're

2034
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:47,320
funding the research you have to
let you know and then and then

2035
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,280
they hired the salespeople to
actually push doctors to act to

2036
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:54,320
prescribe that version of their
medication rather And so he.

2037
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,360
So is he like giving insight on
the industry like?

2038
01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:02,520
You see how the you can see how
the entire prescription drug

2039
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:08,840
epidemic happened at its root,
stripped away piece by piece

2040
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:13,200
following a very clear timeline
in history with one company that

2041
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,160
that's that created a playbook
for it.

2042
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,600
And so and and is that kind of
thing still going on to this?

2043
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,720
Day, dude, yeah, OK, everyone's
been there's another book that I

2044
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:27,520
read called American Cartel and
that was about the, the

2045
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:31,800
painkiller industry in general.
And that was about the

2046
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,360
government and the DEA trying to
hold them responsible.

2047
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,680
And the book was published
before one of the while the one

2048
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,040
of the biggest cases of all time
was going on.

2049
01:42:40,480 --> 01:42:45,000
And I looked up what happened
after and they, the, the, the,

2050
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,120
the, the, the big pharma
companies won the case.

2051
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,320
Because I've heard people say
like at the end of the day,

2052
01:42:50,440 --> 01:42:53,840
hospitals are a business or like
a business hospitals like you

2053
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,600
don't like at the end of the
day, I don't want to believe it

2054
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,280
doesn't go into believe that
everything is.

2055
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,640
Like don't, don't look if you
don't want to believe it, don't

2056
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:05,080
look but this, but this, but
this, but this isn't, this isn't

2057
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:06,720
this isn't about hospitals in
particular.

2058
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,760
That's like the that's the
Medicare system.

2059
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,000
This is talking about like the
drug, the drug addiction,

2060
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:16,560
fentanyl pills, addiction, back
pain, like why it's struck

2061
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,440
specifically, you know, like the
fly over states, like rural

2062
01:43:20,440 --> 01:43:22,960
America, because the hard work,
you know, the people that are

2063
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,440
working with their hands
working, working, you know,

2064
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:32,960
engineers or plumbers or
electricians or mechanics that

2065
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:36,400
hurt their backs but can't
afford to stop working or the

2066
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,960
people that would get hooked.
These pills, some of these pills

2067
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:45,800
were strong enough and that they
were essentially every pill was

2068
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,120
a hit of heroin.
You're literally taking the

2069
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:52,200
you're taking a hit of heroin.
So people are are addicted to a

2070
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,240
drug as strong and as addictive
as heroin.

2071
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,120
And they're, and they're just
getting and they're just

2072
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,400
following the doctor's
prescriptions, But the doctor's

2073
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,800
prescribing it because the
salesperson is coming in, taking

2074
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,240
them out to dinner, you know,
giving them a, you know, giving

2075
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,240
them a gift.
You know, a hot a hot blonde

2076
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,200
woman that's paying attention to
the doctor for the first time in

2077
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,000
his life is walking in his
office and wow, the.

2078
01:44:11,440 --> 01:44:13,720
Book's exposing that kind.
Of stuff, dude, everything.

2079
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,800
Because people don't know.
That's not like a normal thing

2080
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:17,400
that you would think of is
happening.

2081
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:19,880
The painkiller industry is
crazy.

2082
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:25,240
Wow, so that's called Empire.
Of Empire of Pain Pain by

2083
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,040
Patrick Something.
So is that like a series like

2084
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,320
you said?
This one, the first one was

2085
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,120
Empire of AI.
Then there's Empire.

2086
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,400
Oh no, there's just two
different, 2 totally different

2087
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,640
books with just the same name
you just like, but yeah, yeah,

2088
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,360
yeah, dude.
Because you know what?

2089
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:41,720
And it's very interesting the
way that the the way I bought

2090
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,000
Empire of Pain was because I
heard her on Diary of CEO.

2091
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,840
Her name's Karen Howe and she's
journalist based in San

2092
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:48,680
Francisco.
I think a.

2093
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,960
Podcast, right?
Yeah, Serial.

2094
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:52,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I stopped listening to it a

2095
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,800
bunch.
I'm a big fan of Danny Jones.

2096
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:57,240
I don't.
Have you ever heard of him?

2097
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,480
He's awesome.
I think Matthew McConaughey I

2098
01:44:59,480 --> 01:45:02,040
think was on there and that's
where I like listen to Matthew

2099
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,600
McConaughey podcast.
I think he's like a very white

2100
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,600
like seems like a pretty wise
and and.

2101
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,120
He's fun.
He's very intentional.

2102
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,840
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I saw him on there.

2103
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,200
Yeah, yeah, dude, he's got fun
stuff.

2104
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,640
Do you ever hear?
You ever hear Julian Dory I?

2105
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,840
Don't think so.
Dude, check out Julian Dory, OK?

2106
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,720
He is.
He's AI.

2107
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:29,920
He gets incredible guests.
He has incredible conversations.

2108
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:36,840
I think that he, I, I, he's
treating a little bit like a

2109
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,880
show and I don't feel like he's
being so authentic.

2110
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,360
Like he's aware, like he acts
too aware of like the microphone

2111
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:45,480
in front of him.
I think but but but like

2112
01:45:45,480 --> 01:45:48,440
overall, like one of the one of
the top people to listen to

2113
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,760
understand current events,
understand the world today.

2114
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:55,200
OK, I'll have to check her out.
1000% he's incredible.

2115
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,000
Maybe I saw the face and he has
a solo episode every week now

2116
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,320
for like the last bunch of
months on Epstein where just his

2117
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,240
just like deep dives into what
he's like new drops and

2118
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,520
discoveries.
Dude, that's a.

2119
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,120
Conversation we haven't had dude
catch up on that.

2120
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:10,880
Dude, we'll do another.
We'll do another episode.

2121
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,240
Dude, there's a lot of Epstein
shit, man, that's crazy.

2122
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,160
And that's not going anywhere,
by the way, because that's all

2123
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:19,960
connected.
Also UFOs science I mean like

2124
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:20,880
just goes so.
Deep.

2125
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:24,800
The web gets so deep.
Dude, his New Mexico ranch.

2126
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,880
Yes, that's what I'm.
Saying, and do you know that Bob

2127
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,840
Lazar who didn't know anything
about it was on Jesse Michaels

2128
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:30,960
podcast?
It was also great.

2129
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:35,520
It's called American alchemy.
And, and Bob Lazar, who does not

2130
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:39,400
know anything about Epstein,
like in depth was like, we used

2131
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:44,280
to call it Playboy Ranch because
you know, there's always hot

2132
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:45,880
models and hot girls hanging
around there.

2133
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:50,520
And he didn't know that Les
Wexner was Jeffrey Epstein's

2134
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:52,440
guy.
You know the guy Les Wexner was

2135
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:56,280
the owner of of Victoria Secrets
and and Abercrombie and Fitch

2136
01:46:56,480 --> 01:46:58,760
and send you a guy all this shit
and you're like, dude.

2137
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:02,560
I have to send you a guy you, if
you're into that, check out his

2138
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:06,080
YouTube.
It's Zachary Faust and he.

2139
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,080
I took him out.
He was a realtor and I followed

2140
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,160
him because he was very
analytical.

2141
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,920
He was very in depth with all
his research given market

2142
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,600
reports, updates, everything.
He got into the Epstein stuff,

2143
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:20,480
basically went and dive dope
deep on that and now he's

2144
01:47:20,480 --> 01:47:23,280
posting his videos where he
literally has like a web.

2145
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,720
Chart of everything dude, he's
got to be careful man, it's

2146
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:27,080
crazy no people have time
that's.

2147
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,200
Like bro you might want to like
have security like.

2148
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,800
Yeah.
Oh, it's crazy.

2149
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,760
Dude, one my, my one guest
that's coming up, he told me

2150
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:39,240
that he was like, I was friends
with, you know, because media is

2151
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:40,760
having a fun time with these
missing scientists.

2152
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,680
He's like, I was friends with
one of them that went missing

2153
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,200
back in 2022.
Our dads are both physicists

2154
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:52,040
together that work together and
I'm like Oh my fuck here we go.

2155
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:53,600
We got to wrap this.
Up.

2156
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,240
But dude, thanks so much for
coming man.

2157
01:47:58,280 --> 01:47:59,800
Congratulations on everything,
man.

2158
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:00,960
You got to keep on doing it
brother.

2159
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:02,000
Cheers, cheers.