May 20, 2026
#155: Thomas Massie and the Populous / Crumbling Empires / Economic Slavery
Solo ramble on Thomas Massie losing his congressional seat, Americans experiencing economic slavery, how we suddenly become humble when dealing with China, and the rising of new social orders!
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Welcome to another episode of
come Together.
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We are live with a another solo
episode.
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There is an enormous amount to
talk about today and I'm really
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excited to think about, talk
about the news, talk about
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what's going on, and hopefully
try to provide some perspective
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that could at least give us some
potential solutions and to fight
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the darkness that seems to be
consuming everywhere around the
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world.
Thomas Massie just lost his his
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congressional seat in Kentucky
to a gentleman named a former
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Navy SEAL named Ed Gallerain.
And this is the latest.
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It feels like in of battles is a
loss in the battles between
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elite establishment and populist
grassroot individuals.
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It's hard to say how popular
Thomas Massie is.
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It's hard to state how many
people look fondly on him, at
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him.
You don't have to agree with him
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with everything, but he's always
a gentleman.
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He has shown his willingness to
work across the political aisle
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with Ro Khanna, congressman from
California, which if that
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doesn't speak partisan politics,
I don't know what does.
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You know from both of them, the
Republican from Kentucky and the
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liberal from California, working
together to hold elites and
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establishment that feel that
they're above the laws of the
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land from which they reap
people's taxes, services,
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benefits.
They don't hold themselves
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accountable to the same system
of justice.
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Thomas Massie in one of the most
politically polarized
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environments ever.
I'll be doing a podcast shortly,
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hopefully within the next couple
of weeks, with a political
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commentator and professor.
And he wrote this book about
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unstable majorities and how.
And I talked about this.
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I touched on this with the
episode with a gentleman named
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Jim Thurber or James Thurber.
And we talked a little bit about
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political radicalization and
polarization.
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And one thing that hopefully
will be I'll be discussing
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coming up is that a lot of times
in the past, ideology was not.
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I think I've talked about this
in the podcast before, but
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ideology didn't have to be left
or right.
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Implementation of ideology was
left to right.
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And then as time went on, the
parties started separating into
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different moral systems and
values.
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Now that's not good at all, I
think.
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But I think that that was
probably intentional.
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I think it's pretty safe to say
at this point that this mass
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experiment of social media, this
mass experiment of getting
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Americans to hate one another,
this mass experiment, I mean,
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and we could even see it because
we have, you see a battle of for
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people's attention, not just
obviously with big media
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companies trying to fight for
your eyeballs.
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I'm not talking about Meta or
Netflix or Google or X or
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anything like that.
I'm talking about the fact that
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the search for the Epstein for
Epstein files and the Google
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searches and the news stories
immediately faded away following
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the Iran war.
I'm talking about the fact that
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and like, you know, and, and
I've heard this recently, and I
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think that is true.
The organized protest, it feels
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like the organized protests that
have been going on in the
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country for the last 10, 10-15
years, I would say generally
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skew more towards social
cultural issues that don't
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nearly impact everyone as much
as issues like economics, as
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much as issues like foreign
policy, as much as issues like
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trying to understand how
America, the homeland versus
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America, the empire is doing.
Trying to, to understand issues
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about the fact that those in our
corporate political and banking
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systems that are the most
psychopathic are the ones that
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are the most rewarded.
And that these and, and I think
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it's becoming clear to everyone
and part of the reason why it's
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becoming clear to everyone.
It's becoming clear, it's
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becoming clear that institutions
are rotten.
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It's becoming clear that there
is different levels of values in
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this world and there are rules
for some and then there are
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rules for others and and then
it's becoming more blatant.
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The the powerful are becoming
more blatant.
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The populace doesn't know what
to do.
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I think.
And one of the issues that
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Thomas Massie is so good on and
has been focusing on for so
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long, which was a completely not
sexy issue and completely not
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attractive issue until people
started feeling the consequences
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of it, is economics.
And the way that our economy is,
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the way that our government
spends money, what it means when
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our government spends more money
than what we produce, how our
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currency is being debased and
devalued.
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And all these words 10 years
ago, 20 years ago, 50 years ago,
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sounded boring, are now hot
Topic talking points.
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And part of the reason why is
because we are finally at the
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point where the bill for
everything that we've been doing
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is due.
And the way that you know that
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that's happening and the way
that you know that there is this
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collapse of the populace, that
the elite individuals,
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corporations are continuing to
thrive is the fact that our
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president and the fact that our
government and the fact and it
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doesn't make I'm, I'm not just
talking about Trump here because
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it, this is bipartisan.
This happens.
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This happened to Biden, happens
with Obama, happened to Bush too
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long, for a long time.
Where are they where people
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could say the economy is doing
XY and Z?
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Well, XY and Z great.
And a lot of people are like,
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what are you talking about?
And there are charts and there
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are numbers and you can create
economic forecasts that all
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point towards the fact that,
hey, I'm showing you on national
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television the people, you the
people are able to make, you
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know, look at how well American
economy is doing.
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Everyone that feels that the the
40 to 50% of people that have to
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use buy now, pay later for their
food and groceries.
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Don't be silly.
The economy is doing great for
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the people that can't afford to
travel for the airlines, the
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budget airlines that are going
out of business.
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I think the number with between
Spirit and like Frontier and
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like the ultra cheap, ultra
economical airlines are
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generally like 25 to 35% cheaper
than other airlines.
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Well, guess what?
It's not an option right now.
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Sorry, you know, And by the way,
fuel, gas, that's really
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expensive.
I have, I have friends and it's
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so interesting because this
isn't a sentiment that people
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talk about, although it's a
sentiment that people
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experience.
When you don't want to fill up
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your gas tank, you don't want to
leave your house.
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When you don't want to leave
your house, you're not
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connecting to people, You're not
talking to people.
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You're not, you're not, you're
not showing your kids new
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things.
You're not going to meet, make
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new friends.
You're not going to pursue
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things you like.
You got to stay home.
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It's going to be lockdown.
We've had lockdowns, economic
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lockdowns, social lockdowns,
health lockdowns for a long
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time.
This 2019-2020 people have not
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recovered.
And while we could, while we
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technically our life is quote UN
quote back to normal.
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We're not wearing wearing masks
anymore.
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Life is certainly not back to
normal.
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Our social skills are off.
The have just completely fallen
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apart.
Our relationships deteriorate
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like crazy.
Whether it is between family
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members and community or couples
or friends doesn't matter.
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People aren't meeting each
other.
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People aren't going out.
Whenever you go out, you got
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your headphones in.
You're living in this little
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bubble.
People have college debt, credit
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card debt, car debt, medical
debt, buy now, pay later, which
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is not part of your credit score
yet.
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People can't afford to buy
houses.
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People can't afford to rent,
rent homes.
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The rental market is crazy
because it's really hard to buy
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a house now.
And so if no one's able to
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afford to, no one's able to
afford a house.
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Everyone's looking to rent.
When everyone's looking to rent,
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it's incredibly competitive,
gets more expensive, so people
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are getting locked out.
Thomas Massey has been saying
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for years, we have to stop
spending.
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So much so that he actually
created this little gadget thing
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that he wears around that shows
in real time connected the most
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accurately of anywhere in the
world, apparently.
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Actually the this pin that it's
a digital pin that shows the
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national debt in real time, how
many trillions of dollars it's
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constantly spending and it never
stops moving.
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It's crazy.
And he's saying that as a
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reminder.
He's saying that to show
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everyone that's watching him.
Hey, man, you, you see the money
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that you're working to earn.
You see the services that you're
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looking to provide.
You can't keep up with how much
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we're spending.
You can't possibly keep up with
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what we're doing.
And I think America is ready to
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come to terms with the fact that
we are now.
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You know, I think that the rest
of the world has seen that we're
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not a superpower already for a
long time.
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I think Americans are starting
to realize it now, too.
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And not only Americans, not only
the populist, I think even the
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leadership is starting to
realize this.
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Because when Trump went to China
earlier this week and brought
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the top businessman with him,
there was not an air of the same
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type of condescending talk,
behavior, negotiating tactics
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that we may express in the
Middle East or South America or
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Africa or Europe.
Even Russia.
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I know we don't like to mess
around with Russia, but we're we
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talk about China, we talk about
Russia rather the way that we
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talk about the Iranians or the
way we talk about any with the
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Iraqis or anyone in the Middle
East.
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But when it comes to China, our
rhetoric is much more careful.
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Our leadership's rhetoric is
much more careful.
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And there's a good reason for
that.
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And I actually think that a
little bit of modesty and a
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little bit of humility and a
little bit of understanding
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where our place is right now to
understand how contingent our
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society is and our our empire is
on China.
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And to say, in order to be able
to get ourselves out of this
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pit, potentially, this is what
we're going to have to do.
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We're going to have to work with
you.
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We're going to have to
collaborate.
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John Perkins, again, I always
talk about him, Confessions of
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an Economic Hitman said in the
podcast and the last time that
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he was on the podcast with me,
that we shouldn't look at China
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as a competitor.
We should look at them as a
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sorry, as an enemy.
We should look at as a
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competition.
A petition is we drive each
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other to succeed.
An enemy is someone that you are
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backstabbing.
An enemy is someone that you are
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working on negotiating peace
deal with and then bombing them
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behind their back.
That's what you do to an enemy.
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We don't do that to China.
And that's because I think that
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we know that if anything
happened, we'd lose.
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We would absolutely lose.
So Thomas Massie is out for
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representing the people.
He raised over $5 million from
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grass root individuals
primarily, and he was unseated
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by a member of the
establishment.
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I think they only had like 70
donors and was the most
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expensive Senate rate
congressional race, I think, in
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American history.
And obviously, the reason why
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it's such an expensive race is
because I think that most
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Americans realize how important
Thomas Massie is.
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And I think Americans wanted to
keep him in and he lost and he
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lost.
So he might run for president
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next.
And I kind of hope he does.
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So even if we work with China,
the problem of the populace
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versus the elites still exist.
And I'll tell you why #1
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robotics are advancing to the
point that we now have
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warehouses that are operating on
robots that are working 24 hours
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a day.
So if America walks away from
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our meeting with China and says
we had a really, really
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successful and wonderful meeting
with China, we are going to
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collaborate and negotiate and
we're going to work together in
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the future and we're going to
bring factories to America.
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That's all great.
Not if the factories don't
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create any jobs.
That's the big complaint about
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data centers actually, is that
data centers provide short term
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jobs for, you know, for a couple
of months until while while they
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get built.
If you want to stretch it out,
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be all bureaucratic, maybe take
a year, you know, and then they
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primarily run on themselves and
these factories that are getting
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built and they're going to come
to America.
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That doesn't necessarily mean
economic opportunity.
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Now, we may be able to use them
as a tool.
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We may be able to say, hey,
people don't have to work, but
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we'll export what we're
creating.
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And then we will use those,
those, those funds.
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We'll use that money for the
people and distribute them to
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the people, which, you know,
maybe I hope so.
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Mark Zuckerberg is training AI
on Meta's top employees.
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So the most intelligent people
that are getting paid the most
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money out of any industry almost
in the world.
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The AI researchers are one of
the biggest conglomerations the
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world's ever seen, while their
leadership, their top performing
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humans, they're teaching AI
everything they know.
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And so you have robots doing the
physical work, you have AI doing
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the white collar work.
You have America saying that
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we're going to open more
factories here, but we don't
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necessarily know that that's
going to translate into anything
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for the population and for the
people.
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You have Trump on record saying
in the Iranian saying on record
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about the Iranian war that he's
not at all considering the
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economy, what people are
suffering and whether people are
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suffering as a result of
inflation as a result of we're
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spending aside from the troops
that are that are already there.
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And people can't go out and
people can't go out because by
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the time for my, you know, with
myself, for example, every time
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I pay for my mortgage and I pay
for the food for the five people
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that are living in my house.
And I pay for my son's tuition
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for his school, for his
playgroup, because I can't keep
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my home.
I'm working three jobs.
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My wife is working and we have
another kid at home.
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So by the time I have tuition,
my mortgage and food bills paid,
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forget about electricity
dreaming as obviously the
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pricing, you know, which started
so cheap.
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Disney Plus started I think like
699 a month.
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And now I think I'm paying, I'm
paying almost $40 a month for
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Disney, HBO, and Hulu, which I
know is not necessarily a fair
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comparison, but it's a lot more
expensive than it was.
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Netflix keeps on getting up.
Apple TV keeps getting more
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expensive.
Amazon Prime just downgraded you
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to buy ads unless you want to
pay for no, for no ads.
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And it feels like we're not.
We're losing the the population
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is losing opportunities to
create money, but the cost of
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living is still going up.
And even if you are going to
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redistribute money, the cost of
things will just continue
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climbing because that money
doesn't mean anything.
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So we have economic slavery.
We're losing opportunity for
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future employment, whether
you're talking white collar or
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blue collar jobs.
And people are getting really
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disenchanted.
And then Thomas Massie gets
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overthrown or overseated or
outseated, whatever you want to
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call her.
He loses his seat in Congress.
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And the one guy that out of a
out of 40 to 60 years of Epstein
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operating in the confines of the
West, the one person that ever
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forced any documentation out
about him, just got thrown out
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of his, out of his seat.
I can't.
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I don't think I can.
I can or I don't think I can
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articulate how huge of a deal
that is and what that says about
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our system.
And This is why I keep on
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saying, you know, and I've done
and I've talked about this a
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bunch on on on my solo episodes,
but This is why people abandoned
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systems and rebuild new ones.
People abandoned them because
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they say obviously aren't
working for me.
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Why am I pitching in?
Why am I donating?
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Why am I contributing?
Why am I sharing?
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And not only am I not getting
anything back in return, like
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I'm happy to pitch in and just
be left alone.
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Like there's a cost.
Like if there's a cost to be
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left alone, I'll pay it.
Let's take the mafia, right?
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OK, knock on my door.
You want some protection, I'll
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give you some protection, but
that's not happening here.
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I have to get off the economy
freaking me out.
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Good news.
The better news I just the good
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news is that they're actually I
think is plenty of hope.
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As they say in Hebrew, there is
hope and I really do believe
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that.
The reason why I believe that is
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because the people that are the
populace are starting to work
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together and starting to notice
that the things that are
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separating them, the things that
the core fundamental human
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issues that I think the elites,
media, establishment have been
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trying to get us to not notice.
Like our money, Like the fact
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that AI is coming for everyone's
jobs essentially, but without
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necessarily providing first of
all, we even know how much it
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costs, how much it's going to
cost for AI to actually replace
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all of us.
And for the amount of compute
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that it would take and the
amount of resources that it
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would take for AI to actually
successfully take everyone's,
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you know, white collar jobs in
America and around the world.
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I don't know.
It's, it seems like a little bit
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of a stretch to me, although
it's possible.
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And so we don't know and we
don't have a game plan for for
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what are we going to do about
people.
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And I think that this is
actually causing very, very cool
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and potentially wonderful
effect.
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And that is that once people
become so disenchanted with
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establishment and with the
narrative and say, hey, I can't
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trust you and I can't trust what
you're telling me.
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And I can't trust the values
that you are pushing for me to
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either pursue and or abandoned,
right?
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I will not abandoned my family.
I will not abandoned, I will not
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abandon my mom because or my
uncle because of partisan
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politics and who one who someone
voted for and we have no control
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over whether or not they even
got into the White House or not.
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Like that is not what our
concern is going to be.
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You know what our concern is?
Hey, both of us, I went to, I
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went, I went out with my friend
last night and he's probably
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much more conservative than I am
and a lot of things and a lot
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more liberal than I am in other
ways.
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And we both sat down.
We both got a beer.
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I've got 2 beers.
I got 2 guinnesses.
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You got one beer.
I got 2 guinnesses.
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I paid for the two guinnesses
and a tip and tax. 25 dollars
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$25 for two beers in a local
Irish pub somewhere in Boca
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Raton, FL.
There is absolutely no reason in
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the world.
On the way home I ordered a
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burger that was hungry and it
was 10/30 11:00 at night $30
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burger.
I bought a burger and two beers
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for $55 last night.
Tell me how that is something
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that is going to be sustainable
for people.
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It's not.
And so we're going to find that
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much more valuable and it's
going to unite us and it's going
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to, that's going to be much more
unifying to us than whatever our
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partisan perspective on religion
or God or politics or whatever
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might be way more important.
Because you know what, at the
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end of the day, and I've talked
about this too, our, our level
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of moral stature or decay is
very, very often based on how
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secure financially,
economically, socially, mentally
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that we feel.
And when people are in such dire
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straits, our morals, our values
are going to revert, are going
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to regress, and it's going to
lead, like people are saying, to
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a revolution.
It might not be a revolution in
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the same way that we've always
seen throughout history.
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It might not be the same
revolution that you might
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experience with little up in
arms, but it's a different type
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of revolution.
It's a rejection.
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It's a total rejection of a
system.
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It's a total rejection and it's
turning your back on it and it's
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not using it.
It's not using the current
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system that we've been working
on.
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Colleges screw colleges.
Resumes.
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Screw that.
The resumes are AI generated.
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They're being rejected by AI
agents or accepted by AIAI
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agents.
Doesn't make a difference.
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Resumes out the window.
Jobs.
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Guess what?
No job security in the futures.
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What is going to drive me to go
to school to get an education if
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there's no promise of anything
to benefit me?
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Instead we start embracing
different things.
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Relationships hey I am
struggling with addiction I'm
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struggling with depression,
anxiety and I found that hanging
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out with people 3 or 4 times a
week and working out 2 three
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times a week makes me feel so
much better.
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You can tell me that snake oil,
you can tell me that's garbage.
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You can tell me that it's not
true.
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I don't care because the what
the because I've tried following
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your rules for 20 years, for 30
years, for 40 years and look
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where it got us.
O thank you very much.
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I appreciate your advice.
I understand your concern.
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I'm going to pursue the quote UN
quote, snake oil because I don't
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know what else is out there and
I'm going to at least take a
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hard look at it.
And what is happening now is
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that a lot of things that were
previously stigmatized, whether
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they're talking about mental
health, whether it's talking
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about the relationship between
our mental health and our
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physical health or vice versa.
Our physical health and how well
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our brains are functioning, how
well our emotions are, how in
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tune we are to our emotions,
that that is all being flipped
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on its head in a mass way right
now, massive way.
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And it's exciting.
And then I find myself agreeing
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with Seth Rogen, which is
bonkers, but when he's talking
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about AI and he goes, if you
feel the need, if you're writing
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a script and you feel the need
to have an AI write a script for
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you, you should not be writing
scripts.
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It's garbage.
And what we are learning is that
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output does not equal value.
And just to creating something
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for the sake of creating, it
does not necessarily mean it's
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anything.
That's the term that it's funny.
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There's a social term now a
colloquial phrase to use the
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parlance of our times called
slop.
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And whether it's AI slop or no,
a Barnes and Noble is talking
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about they're going to start
carrying AI generated novels.
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You think there aren't enough
writers out there that can't
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figure out how to get their
books on your shelves that you
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need to start stacking up with
AI novel, the AI novels Spotify
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is is is Spotify, I believe, I
believe I read this and I have
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to double check.
Call me out if it's not the
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case.
Has been working on trying to
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remove AI podcasts because they
say what is going on over here.
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You know how many people are
trying to make podcasts, myself
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included, that are putting time,
putting effort, putting work
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into this.
And one of the hardest things
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about podcasting is getting
visibility.
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And you want to dilute the
marketplace even more with
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something that doesn't with with
with something that doesn't.
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We don't even it's garbage.
I mean it, it's literally
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garbage.
So I thought myself agreeing
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with Seth Rogen.
I don't know understand what
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planet I'm living on right now.
And I, I mean really, I feel if
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nothing else, I feel vindicated
for my last couple of years of
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solo episodes because all the
things that I've been saying
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have been coming to fruition.
I don't think, listen, I'm not
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self aggrandizing.
I'm not looking to be right and
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reject.
You know, I've changed my mind a
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lot of things I've been proven
wrong about things that I've
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thought, that I believed, I
thought was right.
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And it will happen again plenty.
But one thing that is not going
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away, the understanding that
people require that there's
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certain fundamental requirements
that people need.
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People need relationships.
People need embodied
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relationships.
People need the feeling that
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people are willing to buy into a
system to be left alone without
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feeling like they're being
abused.
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And then the second that they
feel that they're being abused,
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they either, I mean, listen,
sometimes you're tired and
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you're old and your
responsibility and you're
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drowning in bills.
And I mean, this is actually
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interesting because obviously
from a, from a biblical
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perspective, what Pharaoh, and
I've spoken about this before,
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what Pharaoh did to the Jews in
Egypt was he made them work so
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hard that the at the Jewish
scholars say that the Jews
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didn't have time to realize that
they were being enslaved, that
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they were so focused on working.
And they're so focused on being
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productive.
And they're so focused on that
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they didn't even know that they
were slaves until they just
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until someone woke them up one
day.
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And they said, and then once
they have that second to open
454
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their eyes, they're like, whoa,
what are we doing here?
455
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,960
Why do we have robots in
factories when we haven't had
456
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,680
factory jobs in the when factory
jobs have been leaving the
457
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,760
United States the last 60 years,
the second that we start getting
458
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,600
factories back, they're going to
be replaced with robots.
459
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,200
Why do my friend who I just went
to celebrate his graduation from
460
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,320
medical school, where he spent
probably $250,000 to get his
461
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,240
degree, why is his job going to
be obsolete in five years?
462
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,160
And why are we training the
world's best AI agents on the
463
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,960
world's best doctors to have
everyone that's not the world's
464
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,080
best doctor just be completely
replaced?
465
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,760
Why is he?
Why is he playing into that
466
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,520
system now?
He's playing into it because on
467
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,200
the other hand, what else can
you do?
468
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,720
What are you going to do?
You're not going to work.
469
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,160
You're not going to learn,
You're not going to be creative.
470
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,040
So we know we want to do
something.
471
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800
We know we want to have it make
a difference and have an impact.
472
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,600
But it feels like our
opportunities to do so are being
473
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,640
stripped away from us.
And I think that this is what
474
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960
other countries have felt like
while the American empire was
475
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,640
crushing them financially and
economically.
476
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,720
I'm sure that this is what South
America felt like.
477
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,440
Probably China does this too.
You know, it's soft power,
478
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,800
influence, propaganda.
It's money.
479
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:20,720
And John Karaku, who is the only
person to go to prison from the
480
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,720
CIA, that was related to the
torture program, and the reason
481
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,080
why he went to prison was
because he blew the whistle on
482
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,560
the torture program and he was
the only one that was punished.
483
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,320
John Kairiaku says, guys,
torture doesn't even work,
484
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,720
doesn't get you to give good and
it doesn't get good
485
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,760
intelligence.
It doesn't get good information.
486
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,360
When people are suffering, they
will do what they got to do to
487
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,640
get out of suffering.
They don't care whether it's
488
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,000
good information or bad
information.
489
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,760
I think that we can apply that
train of thought to groups of
490
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,960
people at a time as well.
When groups of people are
491
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,200
suffering, that's not a way to
incentivize them.
492
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,760
It's not a way to change
people's minds.
493
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,600
Economic warfare, real warfare,
the way to get people to change
494
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their minds, the way to get
people to go along, the way to
495
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,160
get people to succeed is to help
everyone succeed.
496
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,520
And the best thing is there's
enough out there that not
497
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,360
everyone has to succeed at the
same thing.
498
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,400
There's enough to do.
There's enough humanity.
499
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,520
This world is diverse enough.
Life is diverse enough.
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00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,760
The universe is diverse enough.
Math, physics, psychology,
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00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,800
technology, storytelling,
education.
502
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,440
I mean, taking care of the
physical world around us,
503
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,280
learning about the oceans,
learning about space, learning
504
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,920
about, you know, our
relationship to time and space.
505
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,440
Breaking free of the confines of
our national slavery, of our
506
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,200
addictions, of our addictions
for, you know, of, of the fight
507
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,480
for our attention, of the fight
for our money, the fight for our
508
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,840
eyeballs and the fight for our
values.
509
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,200
We could focus on just we could
focus on, on making the world,
510
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,040
on making the world better by
understanding it.
511
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,480
And that's what's cool.
A lot of people are rebelling in
512
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,600
the sense that they're starting
to give credence to a lot of
513
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,240
things that were disregarded
just a couple of years ago.
514
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,160
Whether you want to call it
UFOs, alien life,
515
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,760
extraterrestrial life, the
relationship potentially between
516
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,440
religion and this ET phenomenon
that people are experiencing,
517
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,400
shared consciousness that we
could study.
518
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760
All these things are being
looked at more seriously now
519
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,480
because the other system failed
and it's a scary time.
520
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,240
It's super, super scary.
We're going through an enormous
521
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320
transition.
You could feel it happening.
522
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,560
You feel that people are getting
squeezed and, and, and we're
523
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,680
either going to just go down
living the exact same way that
524
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240
we always were, or we're really
going to change and something
525
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,920
radical is going to happen.
And I think that when something
526
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,400
radical happens, it's going to
be a good thing.
527
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,480
It's going to be a hopeful
thing.
528
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,560
I think that the American
experiment of this imperial of
529
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,880
America, the empire, this
imperial perspective has failed.
530
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,800
It's crashing.
I don't know.
531
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I, I, I would prefer if America,
the homeland rose like a phoenix
532
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600
from the ashes.
I would hope that America, the
533
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,400
homeland can recover from all
the damage that it's sustained,
534
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,800
from all the financial, from all
the social damage, from all the
535
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,680
spiritual damage, from all the
physical damage, from all the
536
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,440
destruction, from the, from the,
from the congestion, from, from
537
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,800
the destruction of cities and
the population, from the
538
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,080
isolation of the American people
to feeling like we're not living
539
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,880
in one country.
We're living in a world of and
540
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,480
individual massive competition
to everyone around you because
541
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,920
it's probably a heart, it's
probably harmful, it's probably
542
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,040
a threat, and it's exhausting to
live like that.
543
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,880
And a society that lives like
that can't continue because we
544
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,280
do need to collaborate.
People are social animals.
545
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,760
The only way we have survived in
the past was with working
546
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,840
together.
We'll do it.
547
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,360
And Hippie saved physics,
according to David Kaiser,
548
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,840
they'd be saved physics because
this is fascinating.
549
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Actually during the World War 2
era and then the Cold War and
550
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,040
really since then we've
constantly been in a state of
551
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,120
war.
We've need to take our science
552
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,520
and our scientists and apply
their perspective towards trying
553
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:57,040
to resolve real world and real
war time problems.
554
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,600
Gone was the questions of
purpose, of universality, of the
555
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,840
theory of everything, of play,
of wonder, of looking at a UFO
556
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,640
and being like, I don't know how
to measure that.
557
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,120
I don't know what could possibly
mean.
558
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,200
Let's try and figure it out as
opposed to, I don't know what
559
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,880
that means, but I got more
important things to do and in
560
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,320
the scientific community was
losing its life.
561
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,800
And then the hippies came along
And the hippies, which I think
562
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I've talked about a bunch of the
podcast with, with Jenny Chan,
563
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,920
with Dennis McNally, the hippies
got a lot of their culture from
564
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,200
the East, Thailand, from China,
from Japan, India, some of the
565
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,720
most ancient cultures in the
world.
566
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And we have all this mysticism,
we have meditation, we have out
567
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,120
of body experiences, we have
remote viewing, we have
568
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,720
vibrations and music and
telepathy and all these things
569
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that were written off because we
couldn't explain them.
570
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,080
The hippies embrace them.
And when you, when you, when you
571
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,440
get a scientist, when you get a
hippie scientist and you take a
572
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,120
scientist that instead of
working for Raytheon or for the,
573
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,720
for the Pentagon, trips acid
with the Grateful Dead and
574
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,760
studies quantum mechanics and
tries to understand how we're
575
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,240
all tied, how consciousness is
tied together and how we can
576
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,640
expand your contractor
consciousness, which sounds
577
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160
crazy, to be fair, because it's
not, but it doesn't sound that
578
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,840
crazy.
I think that there's, I think
579
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,040
people universally accept, for
example, the fact that if you're
580
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,440
meditating, you might be able to
have an out of body experience.
581
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Well, once you're out of body,
like why, why is the limit just
582
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,600
right outside your body as to,
you know, where your
583
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,560
consciousness could go, right?
We have a deviation through
584
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,960
meditation between our physical
and our physical body and our
585
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,880
consciousness.
And if you get to the point
586
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
where you could isolate them and
then separate them, and you're
587
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,320
observing yourself and you can
see your physical body with your
588
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,760
consciousness, why not look
elsewhere?
589
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,960
You know, what's to stop you
from looking forward to
590
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,040
backwards?
And by the way, if the answer is
591
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,600
science, and if the answer is we
don't know how that works, and
592
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,200
if the answer is we can't figure
it out, well, doesn't that seem
593
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,920
like a really cool and fun thing
to work on?
594
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Doesn't that seem really
exciting?
595
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,720
Doesn't that seem like it has a
ton of potential for the future
596
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480
of humanity, for the evolution
of mankind, for the future?
597
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Instead of fighting on Twitter
about whether Thomas Massie is
598
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,840
an anti Semite or not because he
doesn't want to take a PAC money
599
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,840
or because he called out his
opponent for getting caught
600
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920
getting funded by super PACs.
That's what our priorities are.
601
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,160
That's what our values are.
We're sitting here fighting
602
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,000
about the fact that the roast of
Kevin Hart was so not PC.
603
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,880
And by the way, I didn't find a
lot of the jokes funny.
604
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,440
I don't find roast very funny.
I don't complain about them.
605
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,320
I just don't watch them.
But that's going to take more of
606
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,440
your attention and more and
you're going to worry about that
607
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,480
more than you're going to worry
about the fact that you haven't
608
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240
left your house in two weeks
because it's too expensive to
609
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,120
fill up your car with gas.
Like where are priorities over
610
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,280
here?
So there's going to be there is
611
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,920
an awakening.
There's going to be an
612
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,640
awakening.
There's going to be forces
613
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,160
fighting that awakening,
obviously because someone
614
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,680
benefits from all this
isolation.
615
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:57,040
You know, only a few people in
America hold over 50% of the
616
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,240
wealth.
And again, as John Perkins put
617
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,880
it, if three people on 60% of
the wealth, 50, even 51% of the
618
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,800
wealth, wealth in the country
they get they, they, they gain
619
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:13,600
10% year over year profit and
the rest of the economy loses 2%
620
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320
year over year.
We have a net positive economy.
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Do we?
Do we?
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Welcome to another episode of
come Together.
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We are live with a another solo
episode.
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There is an enormous amount to
talk about today and I'm really
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excited to think about, talk
about the news, talk about
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what's going on, and hopefully
try to provide some perspective
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that could at least give us some
potential solutions and to fight
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the darkness that seems to be
consuming everywhere around the
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world.
Thomas Massie just lost his his
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congressional seat in Kentucky
to a gentleman named a former
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Navy SEAL named Ed Gallerain.
And this is the latest.
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It feels like in of battles is a
loss in the battles between
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elite establishment and populist
grassroot individuals.
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It's hard to say how popular
Thomas Massie is.
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It's hard to state how many
people look fondly on him, at
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him.
You don't have to agree with him
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with everything, but he's always
a gentleman.
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He has shown his willingness to
work across the political aisle
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with Ro Khanna, congressman from
California, which if that
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doesn't speak partisan politics,
I don't know what does.
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You know from both of them, the
Republican from Kentucky and the
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liberal from California, working
together to hold elites and
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establishment that feel that
they're above the laws of the
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land from which they reap
people's taxes, services,
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benefits.
They don't hold themselves
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accountable to the same system
of justice.
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Thomas Massie in one of the most
politically polarized
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environments ever.
I'll be doing a podcast shortly,
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hopefully within the next couple
of weeks, with a political
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commentator and professor.
And he wrote this book about
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unstable majorities and how.
And I talked about this.
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I touched on this with the
episode with a gentleman named
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Jim Thurber or James Thurber.
And we talked a little bit about
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political radicalization and
polarization.
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And one thing that hopefully
will be I'll be discussing
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coming up is that a lot of times
in the past, ideology was not.
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I think I've talked about this
in the podcast before, but
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ideology didn't have to be left
or right.
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Implementation of ideology was
left to right.
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And then as time went on, the
parties started separating into
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different moral systems and
values.
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Now that's not good at all, I
think.
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But I think that that was
probably intentional.
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I think it's pretty safe to say
at this point that this mass
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experiment of social media, this
mass experiment of getting
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Americans to hate one another,
this mass experiment, I mean,
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and we could even see it because
we have, you see a battle of for
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people's attention, not just
obviously with big media
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companies trying to fight for
your eyeballs.
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I'm not talking about Meta or
Netflix or Google or X or
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anything like that.
I'm talking about the fact that
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the search for the Epstein for
Epstein files and the Google
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searches and the news stories
immediately faded away following
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the Iran war.
I'm talking about the fact that
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and like, you know, and, and
I've heard this recently, and I
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think that is true.
The organized protest, it feels
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like the organized protests that
have been going on in the
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country for the last 10, 10-15
years, I would say generally
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skew more towards social
cultural issues that don't
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nearly impact everyone as much
as issues like economics, as
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much as issues like foreign
policy, as much as issues like
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trying to understand how
America, the homeland versus
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America, the empire is doing.
Trying to, to understand issues
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about the fact that those in our
corporate political and banking
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systems that are the most
psychopathic are the ones that
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are the most rewarded.
And that these and, and I think
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it's becoming clear to everyone
and part of the reason why it's
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becoming clear to everyone.
It's becoming clear, it's
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becoming clear that institutions
are rotten.
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It's becoming clear that there
is different levels of values in
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this world and there are rules
for some and then there are
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rules for others and and then
it's becoming more blatant.
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The the powerful are becoming
more blatant.
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The populace doesn't know what
to do.
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I think.
And one of the issues that
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Thomas Massie is so good on and
has been focusing on for so
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long, which was a completely not
sexy issue and completely not
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attractive issue until people
started feeling the consequences
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of it, is economics.
And the way that our economy is,
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the way that our government
spends money, what it means when
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our government spends more money
than what we produce, how our
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currency is being debased and
devalued.
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And all these words 10 years
ago, 20 years ago, 50 years ago,
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sounded boring, are now hot
Topic talking points.
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And part of the reason why is
because we are finally at the
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point where the bill for
everything that we've been doing
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is due.
And the way that you know that
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that's happening and the way
that you know that there is this
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collapse of the populace, that
the elite individuals,
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corporations are continuing to
thrive is the fact that our
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president and the fact that our
government and the fact and it
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doesn't make I'm, I'm not just
talking about Trump here because
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it, this is bipartisan.
This happens.
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This happened to Biden, happens
with Obama, happened to Bush too
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long, for a long time.
Where are they where people
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could say the economy is doing
XY and Z?
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Well, XY and Z great.
And a lot of people are like,
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what are you talking about?
And there are charts and there
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are numbers and you can create
economic forecasts that all
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point towards the fact that,
hey, I'm showing you on national
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television the people, you the
people are able to make, you
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know, look at how well American
economy is doing.
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Everyone that feels that the the
40 to 50% of people that have to
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use buy now, pay later for their
food and groceries.
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Don't be silly.
The economy is doing great for
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the people that can't afford to
travel for the airlines, the
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budget airlines that are going
out of business.
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I think the number with between
Spirit and like Frontier and
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like the ultra cheap, ultra
economical airlines are
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generally like 25 to 35% cheaper
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Well, guess what?
It's not an option right now.
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Sorry, you know, And by the way,
fuel, gas, that's really
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expensive.
I have, I have friends and it's
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so interesting because this
isn't a sentiment that people
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talk about, although it's a
sentiment that people
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experience.
When you don't want to fill up
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your gas tank, you don't want to
leave your house.
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When you don't want to leave
your house, you're not
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connecting to people, You're not
talking to people.
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You're not, you're not, you're
not showing your kids new
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things.
You're not going to meet, make
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new friends.
You're not going to pursue
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things you like.
You got to stay home.
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It's going to be lockdown.
We've had lockdowns, economic
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lockdowns, social lockdowns,
health lockdowns for a long
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time.
This 2019-2020 people have not
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recovered.
And while we could, while we
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technically our life is quote UN
quote back to normal.
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We're not wearing wearing masks
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Life is certainly not back to
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Our social skills are off.
The have just completely fallen
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apart.
Our relationships deteriorate
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like crazy.
Whether it is between family
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members and community or couples
or friends doesn't matter.
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People aren't meeting each
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People aren't going out.
Whenever you go out, you got
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your headphones in.
You're living in this little
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bubble.
People have college debt, credit
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card debt, car debt, medical
debt, buy now, pay later, which
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is not part of your credit score
yet.
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People can't afford to buy
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People can't afford to rent,
rent homes.
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The rental market is crazy
because it's really hard to buy
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a house now.
And so if no one's able to
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afford to, no one's able to
afford a house.
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Everyone's looking to rent.
When everyone's looking to rent,
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it's incredibly competitive,
gets more expensive, so people
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are getting locked out.
Thomas Massey has been saying
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for years, we have to stop
spending.
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So much so that he actually
created this little gadget thing
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that he wears around that shows
in real time connected the most
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accurately of anywhere in the
world, apparently.
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Actually the this pin that it's
a digital pin that shows the
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national debt in real time, how
many trillions of dollars it's
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constantly spending and it never
stops moving.
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It's crazy.
And he's saying that as a
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reminder.
He's saying that to show
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everyone that's watching him.
Hey, man, you, you see the money
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that you're working to earn.
You see the services that you're
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looking to provide.
You can't keep up with how much
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we're spending.
You can't possibly keep up with
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what we're doing.
And I think America is ready to
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come to terms with the fact that
we are now.
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You know, I think that the rest
of the world has seen that we're
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not a superpower already for a
long time.
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I think Americans are starting
to realize it now, too.
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the populist, I think even the
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leadership is starting to
realize this.
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Because when Trump went to China
earlier this week and brought
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the top businessman with him,
there was not an air of the same
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type of condescending talk,
behavior, negotiating tactics
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that we may express in the
Middle East or South America or
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Africa or Europe.
Even Russia.
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I know we don't like to mess
around with Russia, but we're we
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talk about China, we talk about
Russia rather the way that we
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talk about the Iranians or the
way we talk about any with the
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Iraqis or anyone in the Middle
East.
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But when it comes to China, our
rhetoric is much more careful.
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Our leadership's rhetoric is
much more careful.
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And there's a good reason for
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And I actually think that a
little bit of modesty and a
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little bit of humility and a
little bit of understanding
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where our place is right now to
understand how contingent our
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society is and our our empire is
on China.
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And to say, in order to be able
to get ourselves out of this
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pit, potentially, this is what
we're going to have to do.
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We're going to have to work with
you.
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We're going to have to
collaborate.
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John Perkins, again, I always
talk about him, Confessions of
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an Economic Hitman said in the
podcast and the last time that
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he was on the podcast with me,
that we shouldn't look at China
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as a competitor.
We should look at them as a
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sorry, as an enemy.
We should look at as a
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competition.
A petition is we drive each
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other to succeed.
An enemy is someone that you are
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backstabbing.
An enemy is someone that you are
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working on negotiating peace
deal with and then bombing them
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behind their back.
That's what you do to an enemy.
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We don't do that to China.
And that's because I think that
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we know that if anything
happened, we'd lose.
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We would absolutely lose.
So Thomas Massie is out for
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representing the people.
He raised over $5 million from
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grass root individuals
primarily, and he was unseated
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by a member of the
establishment.
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I think they only had like 70
donors and was the most
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expensive Senate rate
congressional race, I think, in
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American history.
And obviously, the reason why
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it's such an expensive race is
because I think that most
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Americans realize how important
Thomas Massie is.
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And I think Americans wanted to
keep him in and he lost and he
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lost.
So he might run for president
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next.
And I kind of hope he does.
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So even if we work with China,
the problem of the populace
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versus the elites still exist.
And I'll tell you why #1
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robotics are advancing to the
point that we now have
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warehouses that are operating on
robots that are working 24 hours
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a day.
So if America walks away from
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our meeting with China and says
we had a really, really
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successful and wonderful meeting
with China, we are going to
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collaborate and negotiate and
we're going to work together in
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the future and we're going to
bring factories to America.
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That's all great.
Not if the factories don't
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create any jobs.
That's the big complaint about
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data centers actually, is that
data centers provide short term
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jobs for, you know, for a couple
of months until while while they
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get built.
If you want to stretch it out,
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be all bureaucratic, maybe take
a year, you know, and then they
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primarily run on themselves and
these factories that are getting
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built and they're going to come
to America.
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That doesn't necessarily mean
economic opportunity.
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Now, we may be able to use them
as a tool.
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We may be able to say, hey,
people don't have to work, but
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we'll export what we're
creating.
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And then we will use those,
those, those funds.
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We'll use that money for the
people and distribute them to
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the people, which, you know,
maybe I hope so.
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Mark Zuckerberg is training AI
on Meta's top employees.
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So the most intelligent people
that are getting paid the most
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money out of any industry almost
in the world.
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The AI researchers are one of
the biggest conglomerations the
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world's ever seen, while their
leadership, their top performing
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humans, they're teaching AI
everything they know.
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And so you have robots doing the
physical work, you have AI doing
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the white collar work.
You have America saying that
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we're going to open more
factories here, but we don't
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necessarily know that that's
going to translate into anything
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for the population and for the
people.
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You have Trump on record saying
in the Iranian saying on record
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about the Iranian war that he's
not at all considering the
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economy, what people are
suffering and whether people are
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suffering as a result of
inflation as a result of we're
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spending aside from the troops
that are that are already there.
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And people can't go out and
people can't go out because by
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the time for my, you know, with
myself, for example, every time
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I pay for my mortgage and I pay
for the food for the five people
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that are living in my house.
And I pay for my son's tuition
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for his school, for his
playgroup, because I can't keep
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my home.
I'm working three jobs.
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My wife is working and we have
another kid at home.
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So by the time I have tuition,
my mortgage and food bills paid,
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forget about electricity
dreaming as obviously the
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pricing, you know, which started
so cheap.
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Disney Plus started I think like
699 a month.
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And now I think I'm paying, I'm
paying almost $40 a month for
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Disney, HBO, and Hulu, which I
know is not necessarily a fair
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comparison, but it's a lot more
expensive than it was.
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Netflix keeps on getting up.
Apple TV keeps getting more
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expensive.
Amazon Prime just downgraded you
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to buy ads unless you want to
pay for no, for no ads.
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And it feels like we're not.
We're losing the the population
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is losing opportunities to
create money, but the cost of
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living is still going up.
And even if you are going to
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redistribute money, the cost of
things will just continue
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climbing because that money
doesn't mean anything.
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So we have economic slavery.
We're losing opportunity for
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future employment, whether
you're talking white collar or
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blue collar jobs.
And people are getting really
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disenchanted.
And then Thomas Massie gets
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overthrown or overseated or
outseated, whatever you want to
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call her.
He loses his seat in Congress.
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And the one guy that out of a
out of 40 to 60 years of Epstein
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operating in the confines of the
West, the one person that ever
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forced any documentation out
about him, just got thrown out
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of his, out of his seat.
I can't.
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I don't think I can.
I can or I don't think I can
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articulate how huge of a deal
that is and what that says about
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our system.
And This is why I keep on
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saying, you know, and I've done
and I've talked about this a
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bunch on on on my solo episodes,
but This is why people abandoned
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systems and rebuild new ones.
People abandoned them because
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they say obviously aren't
working for me.
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Why am I pitching in?
Why am I donating?
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Why am I contributing?
Why am I sharing?
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And not only am I not getting
anything back in return, like
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I'm happy to pitch in and just
be left alone.
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Like there's a cost.
Like if there's a cost to be
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left alone, I'll pay it.
Let's take the mafia, right?
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OK, knock on my door.
You want some protection, I'll
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give you some protection, but
that's not happening here.
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I have to get off the economy
freaking me out.
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Good news.
The better news I just the good
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news is that they're actually I
think is plenty of hope.
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As they say in Hebrew, there is
hope and I really do believe
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that.
The reason why I believe that is
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because the people that are the
populace are starting to work
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together and starting to notice
that the things that are
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separating them, the things that
the core fundamental human
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issues that I think the elites,
media, establishment have been
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trying to get us to not notice.
Like our money, Like the fact
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that AI is coming for everyone's
jobs essentially, but without
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necessarily providing first of
all, we even know how much it
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costs, how much it's going to
cost for AI to actually replace
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all of us.
And for the amount of compute
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that it would take and the
amount of resources that it
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would take for AI to actually
successfully take everyone's,
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you know, white collar jobs in
America and around the world.
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I don't know.
It's, it seems like a little bit
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of a stretch to me, although
it's possible.
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And so we don't know and we
don't have a game plan for for
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what are we going to do about
people.
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And I think that this is
actually causing very, very cool
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and potentially wonderful
effect.
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And that is that once people
become so disenchanted with
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establishment and with the
narrative and say, hey, I can't
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trust you and I can't trust what
you're telling me.
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And I can't trust the values
that you are pushing for me to
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either pursue and or abandoned,
right?
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I will not abandoned my family.
I will not abandoned, I will not
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abandon my mom because or my
uncle because of partisan
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politics and who one who someone
voted for and we have no control
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over whether or not they even
got into the White House or not.
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Like that is not what our
concern is going to be.
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You know what our concern is?
Hey, both of us, I went to, I
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went, I went out with my friend
last night and he's probably
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much more conservative than I am
and a lot of things and a lot
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more liberal than I am in other
ways.
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And we both sat down.
We both got a beer.
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I've got 2 beers.
I got 2 guinnesses.
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You got one beer.
I got 2 guinnesses.
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I paid for the two guinnesses
and a tip and tax. 25 dollars
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$25 for two beers in a local
Irish pub somewhere in Boca
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Raton, FL.
There is absolutely no reason in
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the world.
On the way home I ordered a
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burger that was hungry and it
was 10/30 11:00 at night $30
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burger.
I bought a burger and two beers
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for $55 last night.
Tell me how that is something
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that is going to be sustainable
for people.
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It's not.
And so we're going to find that
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much more valuable and it's
going to unite us and it's going
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to, that's going to be much more
unifying to us than whatever our
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partisan perspective on religion
or God or politics or whatever
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might be way more important.
Because you know what, at the
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end of the day, and I've talked
about this too, our, our level
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of moral stature or decay is
very, very often based on how
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secure financially,
economically, socially, mentally
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that we feel.
And when people are in such dire
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straits, our morals, our values
are going to revert, are going
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to regress, and it's going to
lead, like people are saying, to
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a revolution.
It might not be a revolution in
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the same way that we've always
seen throughout history.
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It might not be the same
revolution that you might
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experience with little up in
arms, but it's a different type
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of revolution.
It's a rejection.
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It's a total rejection of a
system.
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It's a total rejection and it's
turning your back on it and it's
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not using it.
It's not using the current
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system that we've been working
on.
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Colleges screw colleges.
Resumes.
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Screw that.
The resumes are AI generated.
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They're being rejected by AI
agents or accepted by AIAI
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agents.
Doesn't make a difference.
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Resumes out the window.
Jobs.
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Guess what?
No job security in the futures.
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What is going to drive me to go
to school to get an education if
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there's no promise of anything
to benefit me?
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Instead we start embracing
different things.
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Relationships hey I am
struggling with addiction I'm
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struggling with depression,
anxiety and I found that hanging
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out with people 3 or 4 times a
week and working out 2 three
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times a week makes me feel so
much better.
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You can tell me that snake oil,
you can tell me that's garbage.
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You can tell me that it's not
true.
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I don't care because the what
the because I've tried following
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your rules for 20 years, for 30
years, for 40 years and look
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where it got us.
O thank you very much.
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I appreciate your advice.
I understand your concern.
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I'm going to pursue the quote UN
quote, snake oil because I don't
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know what else is out there and
I'm going to at least take a
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hard look at it.
And what is happening now is
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that a lot of things that were
previously stigmatized, whether
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they're talking about mental
health, whether it's talking
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about the relationship between
our mental health and our
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physical health or vice versa.
Our physical health and how well
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our brains are functioning, how
well our emotions are, how in
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tune we are to our emotions,
that that is all being flipped
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on its head in a mass way right
now, massive way.
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And it's exciting.
And then I find myself agreeing
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with Seth Rogen, which is
bonkers, but when he's talking
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about AI and he goes, if you
feel the need, if you're writing
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a script and you feel the need
to have an AI write a script for
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you, you should not be writing
scripts.
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It's garbage.
And what we are learning is that
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output does not equal value.
And just to creating something
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for the sake of creating, it
does not necessarily mean it's
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anything.
That's the term that it's funny.
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There's a social term now a
colloquial phrase to use the
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parlance of our times called
slop.
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And whether it's AI slop or no,
a Barnes and Noble is talking
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about they're going to start
carrying AI generated novels.
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You think there aren't enough
writers out there that can't
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figure out how to get their
books on your shelves that you
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need to start stacking up with
AI novel, the AI novels Spotify
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is is is Spotify, I believe, I
believe I read this and I have
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to double check.
Call me out if it's not the
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case.
Has been working on trying to
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remove AI podcasts because they
say what is going on over here.
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You know how many people are
trying to make podcasts, myself
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included, that are putting time,
putting effort, putting work
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into this.
And one of the hardest things
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about podcasting is getting
visibility.
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And you want to dilute the
marketplace even more with
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something that doesn't with with
with something that doesn't.
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We don't even it's garbage.
I mean it, it's literally
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garbage.
So I thought myself agreeing
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with Seth Rogen.
I don't know understand what
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planet I'm living on right now.
And I, I mean really, I feel if
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nothing else, I feel vindicated
for my last couple of years of
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solo episodes because all the
things that I've been saying
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have been coming to fruition.
I don't think, listen, I'm not
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self aggrandizing.
I'm not looking to be right and
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reject.
You know, I've changed my mind a
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lot of things I've been proven
wrong about things that I've
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thought, that I believed, I
thought was right.
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And it will happen again plenty.
But one thing that is not going
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away, the understanding that
people require that there's
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certain fundamental requirements
that people need.
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People need relationships.
People need embodied
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relationships.
People need the feeling that
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people are willing to buy into a
system to be left alone without
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feeling like they're being
abused.
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And then the second that they
feel that they're being abused,
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they either, I mean, listen,
sometimes you're tired and
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you're old and your
responsibility and you're
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drowning in bills.
And I mean, this is actually
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interesting because obviously
from a, from a biblical
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perspective, what Pharaoh, and
I've spoken about this before,
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what Pharaoh did to the Jews in
Egypt was he made them work so
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hard that the at the Jewish
scholars say that the Jews
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didn't have time to realize that
they were being enslaved, that
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they were so focused on working.
And they're so focused on being
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productive.
And they're so focused on that
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they didn't even know that they
were slaves until they just
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until someone woke them up one
day.
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And they said, and then once
they have that second to open
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their eyes, they're like, whoa,
what are we doing here?
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Why do we have robots in
factories when we haven't had
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factory jobs in the when factory
jobs have been leaving the
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United States the last 60 years,
the second that we start getting
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factories back, they're going to
be replaced with robots.
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Why do my friend who I just went
to celebrate his graduation from
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medical school, where he spent
probably $250,000 to get his
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degree, why is his job going to
be obsolete in five years?
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And why are we training the
world's best AI agents on the
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world's best doctors to have
everyone that's not the world's
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best doctor just be completely
replaced?
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Why is he?
Why is he playing into that
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system now?
He's playing into it because on
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the other hand, what else can
you do?
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What are you going to do?
You're not going to work.
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You're not going to learn,
You're not going to be creative.
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So we know we want to do
something.
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We know we want to have it make
a difference and have an impact.
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But it feels like our
opportunities to do so are being
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stripped away from us.
And I think that this is what
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other countries have felt like
while the American empire was
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crushing them financially and
economically.
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I'm sure that this is what South
America felt like.
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Probably China does this too.
You know, it's soft power,
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influence, propaganda.
It's money.
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And John Karaku, who is the only
person to go to prison from the
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CIA, that was related to the
torture program, and the reason
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why he went to prison was
because he blew the whistle on
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the torture program and he was
the only one that was punished.
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John Kairiaku says, guys,
torture doesn't even work,
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doesn't get you to give good and
it doesn't get good
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intelligence.
It doesn't get good information.
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When people are suffering, they
will do what they got to do to
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get out of suffering.
They don't care whether it's
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good information or bad
information.
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I think that we can apply that
train of thought to groups of
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people at a time as well.
When groups of people are
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suffering, that's not a way to
incentivize them.
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It's not a way to change
people's minds.
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Economic warfare, real warfare,
the way to get people to change
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their minds, the way to get
people to go along, the way to
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get people to succeed is to help
everyone succeed.
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And the best thing is there's
enough out there that not
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everyone has to succeed at the
same thing.
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There's enough to do.
There's enough humanity.
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This world is diverse enough.
Life is diverse enough.
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The universe is diverse enough.
Math, physics, psychology,
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technology, storytelling,
education.
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I mean, taking care of the
physical world around us,
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learning about the oceans,
learning about space, learning
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about, you know, our
relationship to time and space.
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Breaking free of the confines of
our national slavery, of our
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addictions, of our addictions
for, you know, of, of the fight
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for our attention, of the fight
for our money, the fight for our
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eyeballs and the fight for our
values.
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We could focus on just we could
focus on, on making the world,
510
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,040
on making the world better by
understanding it.
511
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,480
And that's what's cool.
A lot of people are rebelling in
512
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,600
the sense that they're starting
to give credence to a lot of
513
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,240
things that were disregarded
just a couple of years ago.
514
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,160
Whether you want to call it
UFOs, alien life,
515
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,760
extraterrestrial life, the
relationship potentially between
516
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,440
religion and this ET phenomenon
that people are experiencing,
517
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,400
shared consciousness that we
could study.
518
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760
All these things are being
looked at more seriously now
519
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,480
because the other system failed
and it's a scary time.
520
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,240
It's super, super scary.
We're going through an enormous
521
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320
transition.
You could feel it happening.
522
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,560
You feel that people are getting
squeezed and, and, and we're
523
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,680
either going to just go down
living the exact same way that
524
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240
we always were, or we're really
going to change and something
525
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,920
radical is going to happen.
And I think that when something
526
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,400
radical happens, it's going to
be a good thing.
527
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,480
It's going to be a hopeful
thing.
528
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,560
I think that the American
experiment of this imperial of
529
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,880
America, the empire, this
imperial perspective has failed.
530
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,800
It's crashing.
I don't know.
531
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,000
I, I, I would prefer if America,
the homeland rose like a phoenix
532
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600
from the ashes.
I would hope that America, the
533
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,400
homeland can recover from all
the damage that it's sustained,
534
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,800
from all the financial, from all
the social damage, from all the
535
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,680
spiritual damage, from all the
physical damage, from all the
536
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,440
destruction, from the, from the,
from the congestion, from, from
537
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,800
the destruction of cities and
the population, from the
538
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,080
isolation of the American people
to feeling like we're not living
539
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,880
in one country.
We're living in a world of and
540
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,480
individual massive competition
to everyone around you because
541
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,920
it's probably a heart, it's
probably harmful, it's probably
542
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,040
a threat, and it's exhausting to
live like that.
543
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,880
And a society that lives like
that can't continue because we
544
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,280
do need to collaborate.
People are social animals.
545
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,760
The only way we have survived in
the past was with working
546
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,840
together.
We'll do it.
547
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,360
And Hippie saved physics,
according to David Kaiser,
548
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,840
they'd be saved physics because
this is fascinating.
549
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Actually during the World War 2
era and then the Cold War and
550
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,040
really since then we've
constantly been in a state of
551
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,120
war.
We've need to take our science
552
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,520
and our scientists and apply
their perspective towards trying
553
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:57,040
to resolve real world and real
war time problems.
554
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,600
Gone was the questions of
purpose, of universality, of the
555
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,840
theory of everything, of play,
of wonder, of looking at a UFO
556
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,640
and being like, I don't know how
to measure that.
557
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,120
I don't know what could possibly
mean.
558
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,200
Let's try and figure it out as
opposed to, I don't know what
559
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,880
that means, but I got more
important things to do and in
560
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,320
the scientific community was
losing its life.
561
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,800
And then the hippies came along
And the hippies, which I think
562
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,880
I've talked about a bunch of the
podcast with, with Jenny Chan,
563
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,920
with Dennis McNally, the hippies
got a lot of their culture from
564
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,200
the East, Thailand, from China,
from Japan, India, some of the
565
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,720
most ancient cultures in the
world.
566
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,400
And we have all this mysticism,
we have meditation, we have out
567
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,120
of body experiences, we have
remote viewing, we have
568
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,720
vibrations and music and
telepathy and all these things
569
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,680
that were written off because we
couldn't explain them.
570
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,080
The hippies embrace them.
And when you, when you, when you
571
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,440
get a scientist, when you get a
hippie scientist and you take a
572
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,120
scientist that instead of
working for Raytheon or for the,
573
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,720
for the Pentagon, trips acid
with the Grateful Dead and
574
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,760
studies quantum mechanics and
tries to understand how we're
575
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,240
all tied, how consciousness is
tied together and how we can
576
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,640
expand your contractor
consciousness, which sounds
577
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160
crazy, to be fair, because it's
not, but it doesn't sound that
578
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,840
crazy.
I think that there's, I think
579
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,040
people universally accept, for
example, the fact that if you're
580
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,440
meditating, you might be able to
have an out of body experience.
581
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Well, once you're out of body,
like why, why is the limit just
582
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,600
right outside your body as to,
you know, where your
583
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,560
consciousness could go, right?
We have a deviation through
584
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,960
meditation between our physical
and our physical body and our
585
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,880
consciousness.
And if you get to the point
586
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
where you could isolate them and
then separate them, and you're
587
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,320
observing yourself and you can
see your physical body with your
588
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,760
consciousness, why not look
elsewhere?
589
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,960
You know, what's to stop you
from looking forward to
590
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,040
backwards?
And by the way, if the answer is
591
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,600
science, and if the answer is we
don't know how that works, and
592
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,200
if the answer is we can't figure
it out, well, doesn't that seem
593
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,920
like a really cool and fun thing
to work on?
594
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Doesn't that seem really
exciting?
595
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,720
Doesn't that seem like it has a
ton of potential for the future
596
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480
of humanity, for the evolution
of mankind, for the future?
597
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Instead of fighting on Twitter
about whether Thomas Massie is
598
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,840
an anti Semite or not because he
doesn't want to take a PAC money
599
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,840
or because he called out his
opponent for getting caught
600
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920
getting funded by super PACs.
That's what our priorities are.
601
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,160
That's what our values are.
We're sitting here fighting
602
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,000
about the fact that the roast of
Kevin Hart was so not PC.
603
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,880
And by the way, I didn't find a
lot of the jokes funny.
604
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,440
I don't find roast very funny.
I don't complain about them.
605
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,320
I just don't watch them.
But that's going to take more of
606
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,440
your attention and more and
you're going to worry about that
607
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,480
more than you're going to worry
about the fact that you haven't
608
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240
left your house in two weeks
because it's too expensive to
609
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,120
fill up your car with gas.
Like where are priorities over
610
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,280
here?
So there's going to be there is
611
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,920
an awakening.
There's going to be an
612
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,640
awakening.
There's going to be forces
613
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,160
fighting that awakening,
obviously because someone
614
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,680
benefits from all this
isolation.
615
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:57,040
You know, only a few people in
America hold over 50% of the
616
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,240
wealth.
And again, as John Perkins put
617
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,880
it, if three people on 60% of
the wealth, 50, even 51% of the
618
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,800
wealth, wealth in the country
they get they, they, they gain
619
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:13,600
10% year over year profit and
the rest of the economy loses 2%
620
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320
year over year.
We have a net positive economy.
621
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,520
Do we?
Do we?