Health Series 3: Dr Alison Levitt

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Welcome to another episode of
come together

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the phone speaker when we're
live doctor live hello there we

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go we're live welcome thank you
so much for doing this thanks

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for having me in your beautiful
home I appreciate it having.

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You I'm excited so.
Tell me a little bit about

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yourself.
Tell me who you are, where you

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mentioned that you're from
Montreal originally and what do

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you, what do you do?
It sounds.

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Yeah, I have a lot in my little
tool.

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My little toolbox is quite full.
So I'm a medical doctor and I'm

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trained in family medicine.
But before I went to Med school,

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I actually went to India.
And I think that set the stage

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of my career path because when I
went to India, I got exposed to

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meditation and yoga and food is
medicine things at the time.

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I mean, now it's popularized,
everybody's talking about it,

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everybody knows about it.
But 30 years ago, 35 years ago,

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it was sort of the unknown.
You know, a guru was something

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weird.
And I got exposed to all that.

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And then I went to medical
school.

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So I had that already implanted
in me that, you know, meditation

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is really important.
Lifestyle is really important.

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What you eat is going to affect
how you feel.

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And it can also be medicinal.
So that changed the course of my

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career.
I went into family medicine and

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I did a residency and I was
actually looking for an

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opportunity after that to do
something innovative.

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And I ended up being the first
MD to work at a functional

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medicine lab.
What is that?

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What is?
What is the functional medicine?

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Abdu, would you like a minute?
Good.

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OK, yeah.
But if you want be there, yeah,

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so functional.
Medicine.

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So functional medicine, which is
now, you know, a really big

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field in medicine at the time it
was sort of unknown and really

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it's root cause medicine.
So in regular medicine, what I

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learned in all of my training
was people came to you sick and

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you treated them and in with a
probably a medication is more

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like, most likely the outcome is
you're going to be put on a

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medication.
Yeah.

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And in functional medicine is
like, how did you get here?

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What led to this?
What in your lifestyle, in your

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gut, in your microbiome?
Yeah, in your environment?

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Yeah.
Led to getting a disease.

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And can we reverse that?
And how do we do that?

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And that's fascinating.
So that's you were the first.

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And D to work at this company
used to be called Great Smokies

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Diagnostic Labs, and now it's
Genova.

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And I was basically going out
and educating other physicians

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and chiropractors about this
kind of medicine, like why

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essential fatty acids are
relevant to your health.

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And they're not learning that in
Med school.

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So at that time, no, I mean,
even today, they're not really

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learning.
So it's kind of ironic.

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It's great.
So so OK, OK, this is an amazing

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place to start 'cause I'm gonna
go back.

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This is a perfectly.
I just got started.

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I love it.
I.

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Know I'm so.
Excited.

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No, I haven't even gotten.
To so I know, but I I I this is

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considered as a combination of
like a class and a personal

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personal bio, right?
How'd you get to India?

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What were you doing in India
All?

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Right.
Well, so I kind of felt a little

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lost in my life.
Like internally, yeah, I mean,

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everything was going fine on the
outside, but internally I felt

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like something is happening that
I'm not aware of.

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Like I need to, I need to tell
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Interested.
So I was 19.

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OK, Gotcha.
Cool.

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And I read this book.
It was called The Snow Leopard,

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and I think it was by
Matthiessen.

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And he went to Nepal to look for
the snow leopard.

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And he went trekking in the
mountains and Apurna and he

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never found the snow leopard.
But he found himself like he

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discovered more about himself.
He.

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You know, and I thought, that's
for me.

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I need to find out who I am,
what this is What what is this

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life thing all about?
On a really deep level.

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Yeah.
And so I decided to take a year

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off.
I'd been to McGill.

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I did my undergrad.
So I had AI was applying into

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Med school.
Actually, I was trying to decide

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do I go to Yeah, Well, I made an
in between.

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There usually is no in between.
You know, you just go from

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school to school to school to
school and then you become a

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doctor or whatever.
I needed an in between.

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And so I took AI took a time off
and I said he's going to go to

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India.
Of course, my my parents were

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just crazed.
I mean, there's a with your

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life.
You're wasting your life.

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Oh man, sure, sure.
And, you know, I was 19 and at

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19, you don't care.
You could do anything, right?

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You're really powerful.
It's funny how you're you feel

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so strong even though you're so
you don't know anything, which

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makes you.
But it didn't matter.

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I didn't know that at the time.
I'm like, I'm just going to go

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to India.
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And before I left, it was really
interesting because I kept

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meeting these people who guided
me towards this ashram in India.

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They I kept meeting these people
who are like, yeah, I've been to

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this place and you got to go
there.

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So in my back pocket I had, you
know, a name of somebody that I

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was a place I was going to go in
India.

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So I left.
I was going to go for a year.

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I was going to travel the world.
I was going.

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To was it like, what was it when
you got there and you were like,

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was it a whole, were you just
like when you got there?

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Was it, Oh my God, can I handle
this?

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And this is so exciting.
Or like, what was your initial

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reaction?
To that, you know, I had already

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been to Africa.
I went a year before I went to

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Africa and had like a wild
experience there where, you

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know, I was 17 and thrown into
like an adult position where I

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was actually working in a
safari, like just crazy kind of

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stuff.
So I had already even.

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Already the culture.
Shocks, Third world country,

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Yeah.
But India is unique.

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I mean, it is, you know, you
land in Delhi at the time it was

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it was like just hundreds of
people on the streets and

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incense burning and odd smells
and people grabbing at you and

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there's a lot of beggars on the
street.

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It was it was really
overwhelming.

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But I was so excited, yeah.
Because I was going to find

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myself, right?
Like, I was going to find out

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who I was.
And, and actually, before I

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left, I applied to medical
school, OK, which gave my

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parents a little sense of peace.
Like, hey, at least he's got,

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you know, some brain cells that
are still working.

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And then I jumped in and went to
India.

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And then I, you know, went to
visit where the Dalai Lama

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lived.
And I started learning about

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meditation and Buddhism.
And I'm like, wow, this is

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really cool.
And then I ended up going to the

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place that everyone told me I
needed to go.

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And I literally showed up there
and I saw all these, I mean, I'm

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going to say white people, like
Americans walking down the

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street with these shawls, like
these typical Indian shawls.

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And I thought I must be at the
right place, but I couldn't find

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the ashram because it was
hidden.

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And I was there for three days.
I was staying in AI mean I was

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living on $5 a day.
So I was staying in a really

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nasty place.
And I after the third day of bed

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bugs, I'm like, I'm out of here.
I don't know what people are

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talking about.
And I was walking down the

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street and coming out of the car
was this man with a beard.

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And he was he smelled beautiful.
He looked beautiful.

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And he's like, come with me.
And that was the beginning of my

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stay in this Austria in India.
So you're about to leave.

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I was about to leave.
I gave up.

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I'm like, this is not happening.
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Yeah.
And you know.

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So what do you learn?
What do you teach?

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How to start?
Was it formal classes?

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Was it one-on-one?
No, it was so organic.

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I mean, literally the reason I
couldn't find the place is

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because it there's no signage or
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It was just a whole bunch of
people sitting around

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meditating, talking about
spirituality.

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And that's how it was every day.
There was like two or three

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meditation sense sessions per
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And then with the, with the
guru, they could be anywhere

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from 20 minutes to like 5 hours
it depending on what the guru

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wanted to do in that moment.
And it was completely

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unpredictable.
And I, I really think the reason

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that happened that way was
because to teach us about, you

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know, life is not predictable.
Yeah, it doesn't come in a slot.

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And when you're meditating, you
think, oh, it's supposed to go

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this way.
And one of the things I learned

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is meditation goes the way it
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You don't judge it.
You know, that's what prevents a

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lot of people from meditating is
they think I can't because my

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mind is racing.
And then what I learned is that,

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yes, your mind is racing.
Everybody's mind is racing.

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You just sit.
You just sit through it and you

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watch.
You just watch.

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You just.
Do you try to shift yourself to

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the mindset of like, almost like
observing your own mind, you

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know, like?
It's exactly what it is.

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You're basically sitting.
There, you're still watching.

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You're thinking, Yeah.
Yeah, well, you're not curious

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in, in, in this type of
meditation.

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There's no, it's just observing
and knowing that the thoughts

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are like the wave of the ocean.
They come and they go.

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And where are you in all of
this?

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Yeah, you're just, you're the
witness.

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You're just watching.
When I started carrying a little

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notebook around, a tiny little
notebook, it's in the car

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actually.
And it's literally just for when

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these little sparks of thoughts
that like I don't want to lose

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become like flashing forward.
Like when they come forward, I'm

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like, OK, just quickly get that,
get that down.

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And like, yeah.
And it's caused me to spend more

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time aware of my thoughts.
And then the more you're aware

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of them, I feel like the more
I've been able to follow them,

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you know, like, you know, I, I
feel like, almost like imagine

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if it's a movie set, right?
And it's all, it's all dark and

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it's Seattle.
So it's all, you know, it's all

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misty and you see a shape in the
back and you're like, you can

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either.
And like you kind of tell the

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outside of it what it looks
like.

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You like you want to kind of go
like see where, what it looks

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like in the light.
And you start like walking with

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it past and you, and you find,
oh, right, that's what it is.

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So like, I think a lot of people
have a lot of thoughts or

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experiences that they vaguely
recognize and they kind of just

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come and go and we don't give
them a lot of attention.

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But like, if you just follow
those thoughts down a little

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bit, then like they become a lot
more clear and then you start to

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know yourself more, you know
yourself a little better.

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It sounds like you're talking a
little bit about intuition too.

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OK.
Right.

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Like you, you have, you know,
there's, there's a fine line

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between intuition, like you're
feeling something and that, I

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mean, thoughts are coming and
going all the time.

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Yeah.
And some are positive, some are

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negative, Right.
You know.

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And so I think that the idea of
meditation is to understand, you

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know, I am not those thoughts.
Oh, you're not.

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No.
OK.

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I'm just the witness of those
thoughts.

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Incident.
What are you?

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Well, your space, you're like
you're, you're connecting to the

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energy of your being rather than
the thoughts.

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And So what happens is, for
example, if you're a kind of

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person who has a lot of
negativity in their life, it's

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very powerful because you
realize, wait, I don't have to

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identify with every single
thought that comes into my head.

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That is not truth.
That is not fact.

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They're just thoughts.
Oh, interesting, gotcha.

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We think we're our thoughts, but
we're not.

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We identify with every single
thought and it makes us crazy

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because it's just come.
It's the incoming is constant.

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So for not everybody is like
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Not everybody has a wild crazy
mind, but they call it the

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monkey mind because it's always
working.

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It's trying to attach, it's
trying to do.

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It's like all these thoughts
coming in, if you paid attention

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to all these thoughts, you would
be running your back and forth

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circles.
But if you took a step back and

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said, wait, I'm not these
thoughts, who am I?

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And that's the point of
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Like who are you really?
So are you your experiences are

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you your actions?
Are you your relationships?

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Are you your?
According to Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, I'm in my life, Yeah,
yeah, no, you're none of that.

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So what then?
What are so you're?

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You're trying to attack, you're
trying to recognize that beam of

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light, that essence that came
into, you know, some people

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would call it your soul.
Yeah, right.

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This ethereal essence, if you
are not the body.

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So they would describe it like
you're this, you're this

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essence, you're this light.
And then you land in this body

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and you become Ephron, you
become Allison.

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And the minute you do that, you
become identified as that.

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And then your whole life you
build on that identity.

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But for some people, that
doesn't lead them into a very

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positive place or it just you're
not finding that sense of peace

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that you want in your life
because if you're always seeking

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from the outside, if you're
seeking your happiness from the

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outside, from your spots, Yeah.
Good luck.

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Yeah.
Right.

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I guess your thoughts are you're
processing what's going on

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around you as opposed to coming
from within?

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Listen, if you know who you are,
like there are certain people

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that you meet and they're just
standing, they're standing in

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their essence, like they, they
know who they are.

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They don't need a degree.
They don't need to be told that

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they're that they're doing
wonderful things that, that,

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that they're amazing.
They just know.

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Yes.
And it's not from an ego

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standpoint.
They just know they have a

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confidence, they have a sense of
peace, a sense of calm, right?

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I think most people are looking
for a sense of calm, a sense of

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peace in their life.
And this meditation was a way to

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find that.
So eloquently and I think we

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need I think so many people look
at that.

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Oh, I've so many and you know,
it's fun.

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I think people I think you had
when you were younger and I

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think as you like learn to, I
think as you learn like the

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dance that is relationships in
the world and like life and

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teachers and like, you know,
boyfriends, girlfriends,

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everything.
Like you have to adjust to so

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many external forces that you
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And I think a lot of people and
then it becomes either scary to

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try to like be alone to, to
realize that you don't know who

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you are.
And that's what scares a lot of

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people.
And then there's the experience

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of if I find out, if I find out
who I am and I can't be myself

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homeless, like, you know, I
would say hypothetically for

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myself and not hypothetically,
but you know, for example, with

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myself, I don't, I don't feel
like I'm a salesman.

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I'm not a salesman.
It's not like my essence, you

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know, my essence, I said to all
I'm thinking about is like a

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sharer is like someone that like
relationships and sharing like

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that's, that's I never feel
more, I never feel more

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authentic and like I'm
fulfilling my potential and my

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purpose than when I'm doing
those type of things.

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And then it rejuvenates me and
it enhances every aspect of my

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life, you know, and actually
brings everything else that I do

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makes it better and more fun and
more meaningful and more deep

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and a more pleasant to be around
when I'm engaging those kind of

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activities.
And when I, if I don't do a

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podcast or I don't do any
writing or I don't do anything

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for a week or two or a month, I
become like a shell of myself.

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I feel it.
And I actually get down and I

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start to recognize that downness
in me.

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And I'm like, oh, I need that.
I need a fresh dose of writing.

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I need a fresh dose of an open
mic to play some guitar.

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I need to do a podcast or two.
And I do it, you know, And so,

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but it took, it took me 27,
2020, 627 years to figure that

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out.
I'm still figuring it out so

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good.
I'm so happy that it.

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I could be wrong, maybe I maybe
I'm not getting it, you know, I

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feel it.
I feel it.

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If you feel it, you're, you're
getting it, you know, 100%.

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It's all about how you feel in
your life on a daily basis.

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I mean, that's exactly what I do
in, in medicine too.

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It's about making people feel
look beautiful and feel good

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from the inside out, you know?
But there's a lot of elements

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that go into play.
And for you, it's doing stuff

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right that's really important
for you.

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For other people, it's managing,
you know, their diet or their

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lifestyle or their
relationships.

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Everyone has different elements
of their life that contribute to

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how they feel and their health
right there.

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It's all related, really 100%
related.

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But if you can feel good despite
whatever's happening on the

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outside, that is a miraculous
feeling.

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And that's not an easy place to
get to.

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And I'm not talking about
physical health.

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That comes.
I mean, just knowing who you are

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and feeling good within
yourself, whether you're doing a

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podcast or whether you're
married or single, have kids,

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none of that.
If you can just feel good and

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know who you are and feel calm
and at peace and move through

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life and be giving, like you
said, helping people and being

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like the Buddhist, that's a
beautiful thing.

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If you're, if you're there at
27, three days, two years. 2929

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yeah, it took me.
I started a couple years ago.

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Did you?
So when you came, I want to, I

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want to talk about that for a
little bit, But when you came

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back, did medical school feel
like a cold, like totally

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different universe than like
where you came from?

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It's funny because in fact, I
think I was, you know, it felt

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pretty culty in India, but at
the time I didn't feel like, no,

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you know, it helped me get
through Med school.

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I don't think I would have gone
through Med school without about

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meditation.
I really feel like it helped me.

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Really.
Yeah.

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First of all, it helps you
focus.

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Like it helped me study.
It helped me be like 1 pointed

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in my in my intention.
Like I knew, okay, I'm going to

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get through this, I'm going to
do this.

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But it gave me a mode of
concentration that I don't know

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I necessarily would have had
without meditation.

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I was meditating every day and
also I wasn't, you know, at the

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time you could be working 100 a
120 hours a week.

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And so if I could get a 5 minute
meditation break, it gave me

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energy like it allowed me.
So I was really grateful for

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that.
And I also had a bigger purpose

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in life and that, you know, when
you have a purpose in life, it

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changes everything.
Right, right.

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Gives you energy.
Just knowing, OK, I'm here to do

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this.
That really helps.

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Yeah.
That's interesting too, because

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I have a friend.
I have a very good friend of

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mine that's actually in Med
school now and he's a relatively

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uncommon case, I believe, I
don't know, but from my, from

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the people, from the friends
that I know in the world that

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I'm from, he's, he's in, he's,
he started Med school when he

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was married with two kids and,
and you know, and then I have my

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single friends that are in Med
school and for some reason he

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seems better at managing his
time and making his way from Med

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school.
I'm like, how do you do that?

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And he's like, well, I'm not
going to let my wife and kids go

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ignore it for 10 years, you
know, while I'm trying to get,

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you know, I'm going to medical
and residency.

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Like so like I almost have to
make it work.

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But I guess it's almost similar
to what you're saying.

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Like when you have that thing
that's grounding you and you

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have like that purpose that, you
know, like this is what I'm in

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school for and this what I'm
trying to accomplish.

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This is the purpose of it.
Then then you you learn to

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balance everything and not let
that slip aside I guess, right?

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Oh, it's a it's a huge driving
force, especially, you know,

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family.
Yeah, you need to support your

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family.
You want.

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If you want to maintain that,
Yeah, you have to be 1 pointed.

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Yeah, yeah, so interesting.
So that really helped you in Med

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school.
I think and residency, I kept

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going back and forth to India as
well.

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Oh, really?
Yeah.

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It was really pivotal in guiding
me.

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And then I kept learning when I
was in India, I kept learning

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about nutrition and Ayurvedic
medicine.

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And I realized, wow, like, here
I am in medical school learning

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about this kind of medicine, and
then there's other kind of

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medicines.
Like was it formal learning or

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how did you learn about that in
India?

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There were, Yeah, well, not, no,
it was not formal.

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There were Ayurvedic physicians
that I worked with when I was

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there.
And of course, you know,

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learning meditation and yoga was
all part of what I did every

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day.
And that really changed the

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course of my career because I
realized, wow, there's so much

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more here than just dispensing
medication.

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And I want to be part of that.
Yeah, get you out of that box.

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Yeah, it was for sure.
Yeah, it was.

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It was innovative at the time
and it I didn't know how it

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would manifest, but I just loved
it.

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And I loved, you know, thinking
that our ancestors have been

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doing this for so many years,
even though there's no clinical

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trial on this, there's got to be
something behind this, right?

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Like why are they doing this?
And, you know, Med school is all

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which is it's warranted.
Everything you learn has had a

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clinical trial study.
It's FDA approved.

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And then here I was exposed to a
whole other world of tradition.

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Yeah.
That, you know, my grandmother

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did it and they did it and it
and it worked.

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And so I'm going to do it too.
And I my goal was to men meld

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The Chew and practice medicine
that.

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Way so amazing, so unique it's
so cool.

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I I, I feel yeah the more I the
more I hear about about, you

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know stories like yours and
stories like this I feel like we

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should have for medicine at
least like these international

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programs where like, you know we
exchange of them great you know

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what we know and like you at
least just for a little bit of

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exposure you know and if a
student chooses you know says

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it's not my it's not my speed,
but like it's good to know that

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it exists and it's out there
then great.

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And if some, if it really speaks
to you, then that you could

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really implement that into your
life and we could have more of

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that, you know.
That would be a great idea.

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I mean, my schools, there's so
much you have to learn.

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Like I, in retrospect, I mean,
for many, many years I thought,

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I mean, I loved what I learned
and I appreciated it and I

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condemned it.
Like, well, we didn't learn

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nutrition, we didn't learn this,
we didn't learn that.

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And I realized there's a lot to
pack in.

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Learning the human body is a
tremendous task, you know, and

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you've got four years to learn
it in school and then, you know,

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X amount of years in residency.
I almost wish that part of the

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Med school curriculum included a
more like a more unique

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perspective because a lot of
what I learned in Med school is

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foundational.
And yet I feel like I don't know

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if I ever used that ever on my,
you know, And I think couldn't

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we learn a little bit more like
nutrition and food is medicine,

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And you're, like you said, be
exposed to how other cultures

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dealt with different diseases
and ailments.

450
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,440
That would have been
fascinating.

451
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,000
Yeah.
I would have loved.

452
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,680
Especially especially if they're
as rich of history and tradition

453
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,000
as something like India, you
know, like, I mean, America's

454
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,640
young, you know, like, yeah,
like it's a little arrogant of

455
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,560
us to say, oh, we've been here
for 300 years, you got it all

456
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,600
worked out.
We're not going to talk to

457
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,400
anyone else, you know, like.
Medicine is just a few years

458
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,360
behind.
I will say like even to like, I

459
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:25,000
remember I was going out and
talking to physicians about

460
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,920
taking fish oils and this was
you.

461
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,640
Know somebody else mentioned me
yesterday, actually.

462
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,080
Fish oils.
Yeah, something he recommends

463
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,680
for everyone's.
Day and you know, the

464
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,200
cardiologist would laugh me off
the stage.

465
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,080
This is when I was working for
that functional medicine company

466
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,360
and it was really hard because I
really believed in it.

467
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:45,080
There were studies that showed,
you know, not a lot, but there

468
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,800
was some scant studies that
showed it could be beneficial to

469
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,840
lower inflammation.
And they just laughed.

470
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,640
In the meantime, 25 years later,
they are prescribing it.

471
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,720
So medicine does catch up.
It takes time, Yeah.

472
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,320
And it needs people to say it
though.

473
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,240
It needs, it needs a so nice to
be done these to be pushed.

474
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's happening like the

475
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,800
world right now of medicine is
exploding with this, these other

476
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,800
types.
What are you excited about?

477
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,640
Tell me what you're all excited
about now, because I know

478
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,120
there's so much to be excited
about.

479
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,080
You know, it's so amazing
because now this whole world of

480
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,200
longevity medicine.
Exploding.

481
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,760
It's so great.
It's so great, you know, and

482
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,520
the, the funny part is like, if
you look at the basis of

483
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,920
longevity medicine, a lot of it
is sleep, lifestyle, exposure to

484
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,640
time stands like, so it's, it's,
these are basic elements that

485
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,160
most functional medicine doctors
or alternative physicians or

486
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,880
naturopaths have been talking
about for years.

487
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,160
Oh, that microbiome all of a
sudden is important.

488
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,640
So I love how it seems to all be
coming together now with the

489
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,800
inclusion of like technology.
It's going to be groundbreaking.

490
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,680
I mean, I feel like things are
going to dramatically change and

491
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,480
it's going to, it's going to
happen really fast because of AI

492
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,320
technology.
So I think the and you know,

493
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,720
medicine is going to be
medicine.

494
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,840
I mean, the way I see it is
medicine, like allopathic

495
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,880
medicine that I trained in is
always going to exist.

496
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,600
It's necessary, but it's for the
masses.

497
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,840
Healing.
Healing somebody is individual,

498
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,120
like it's personalized.
It's very different than healing

499
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,800
the masses.
And I appreciate the need for

500
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,440
that.
But then if you want longevity,

501
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,680
if you want real health, you're
going to get really personalized

502
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,600
medicine.
And that's the only way to know

503
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,000
what you need as an individual
to be healthy.

504
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,520
We should have, you should have
the option to be a doctor of

505
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,120
medicine or a doctor of health.
And that way, you know, you can

506
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,480
have a specialist that
specializes in particular

507
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,120
Medicare.
Because I feel like medicine,

508
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:55,000
like the more that you people
talk about it and the more that

509
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,720
we think about it and the more
that we notice its application

510
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,480
and it's used, it's responsive,
you know, like it's just like

511
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,360
medicine is like no one pre
prescribes you, you know,

512
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:06,800
steroids in case, you know, you
have inflammation.

513
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,760
They you wait for somebody to
get inflammation, you come in

514
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,440
and you do it.
But you can pre prescribe

515
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,200
someone sunlight.
You could pre prescribe someone

516
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,160
a healthy diet.
You could pre prescribe someone.

517
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,360
Hey, you know what?
Yeah, I noticed, you know, I

518
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,400
mean, I'm trying to tell my dad
now, my grandpa, you know, or

519
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,640
maybe you can tell me if you
know, a lot of the recent

520
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,360
research in terms of Alzheimer's
being some kind of, I've heard

521
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:31,960
it being described as type 3
diabetes.

522
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520
A Yeah.
And do you want to explain kind

523
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,240
of how that works a little bit?
OK, sure.

524
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,560
If you don't mind, if you're
familiar.

525
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,240
With it for meditation for brain
disorders, yeah.

526
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,080
Yes, because my, my so, my
grandfather was always afraid of

527
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,360
it.
He goes, it runs in our family,

528
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600
but my grandfather was never
healthy until probably his late

529
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,240
50s, early 60s when he had a
heart problem.

530
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,200
He had a double bypass surgery
and then he started working out

531
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,840
after that.
But now, you know, within a

532
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,360
couple of years, his memory is
kind of gone.

533
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,000
And my dad does not really
exercise.

534
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800
He moves around, He doesn't
really exercise and he doesn't

535
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,000
like do a line, doesn't take
care.

536
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,920
He doesn't take care to eat
healthy things.

537
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,360
And I'm like, Pop, you got six
kids, you got 6 grand for kids.

538
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,120
You're 55, you have the entire
world.

539
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Why would you not be preparing
yourself for when you're his age

540
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,480
that you get to appreciate all
of that, you know, get to live

541
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,640
like that.
So what do you, what do you?

542
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,880
So do you want to explain to me
with some what we're learning

543
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,680
recently?
So I just want to just take a

544
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,720
step back for a second.
And then, you know, in medicine,

545
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,480
ultimately what happens is, you
know, you go and you see a brain

546
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,200
doctor or you go and you see a
heart doctor or you go and you

547
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,840
see an endocrinologist.
Yeah, it's very well.

548
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,880
It's very like in a different
boxes for different organs, but

549
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,600
you know, we're all connected,
like everything is connected.

550
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:56,240
So if you have diabetes or if
you have a metabolic disorder,

551
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,640
meaning if you have trouble like
insulin resistance or elevated

552
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,960
glucose or elevated hemoglobin
A1C, high lipids, it's not just

553
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,880
about your heart, it's not just
about diabetes, but it affects

554
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,800
everything it affects, You know,
we have 60,000 miles of vessels

555
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,400
in our body, 60. 1000 miles
miles of different kinds of

556
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,200
vessels.
OK.

557
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,440
OK.
So you can imagine there's a lot

558
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,760
of maintenance that has to go on
to keep those vessels flowing

559
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:29,200
really well.
We know that every single organ

560
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,400
needs oxygen, right?
The brain needs oxygen, the

561
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,960
heart needs oxygen.
And you?

562
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,520
Know breathing so important.
It's like what it's.

563
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,640
Like breathing is so important.
I mean, it's it's why.

564
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,760
Breathing.
Is so important.

565
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,360
Essential and then, you know,
thinking of the things that

566
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:48,640
could damage these arteries and
but the point is it's a highway

567
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,400
of connections, right.
So what affects one thing

568
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,040
affects the other thing.
If you have diabetes, it's not

569
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,200
just a problem with insulin and
glucose.

570
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,680
It affects the vessels, like the
micro vessels.

571
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,440
And you know what is the number
one nutrition, nutritional

572
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,400
component that the brain needs?
It's oxygen.

573
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,960
Like 20% of the body's oxygen
goes to the brain.

574
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,400
If you can't get oxygen to the
brain, it's going to suffer,

575
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,160
right?
If you have inflammation in your

576
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,760
brain because you have insulin
resistance or elevated sugars,

577
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,120
it's going to create
inflammation in the brain and

578
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,760
that when the brain tries to
repair itself, right, it's going

579
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,240
to damage itself in that
process.

580
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,560
Because it's inflamed.
Because it's inflamed.

581
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,920
OK.
And inflammation comes from how

582
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,880
does what does inflammation
occur as a result?

583
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Well.
I mean inflammation can come

584
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,520
from many different sources.
OK diet is one of the most

585
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,960
common initiating factors is not
having a healthy diet.

586
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,680
So I'm eating hamburgers every
day, right.

587
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,920
I'm eating hamburgers every day,
three meals a day or pizza and

588
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,880
hamburgers every day, Right.
So I look like I'm a balloon,

589
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,000
right.
Like.

590
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,080
Yeah.
Yeah.

591
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,160
Like a swell.
You could see like swelling.

592
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,400
Oh, I don't actually.
Let's say hypothetically I were

593
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,960
too.
Yeah.

594
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,320
And like you can kind of almost
like see when people look a

595
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,360
little swollen from like
processed food that they're that

596
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,720
they're eating or breads
primarily, I guess, but.

597
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,400
So again like so.
How does that?

598
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,320
How does that convert to
inflammation?

599
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,640
Well, if you think about it, so
first there's a gut issue,

600
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,200
right?
Like let's start from the

601
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,160
beginning.
So you're putting a processed

602
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,120
foods and there's hundreds of
chemicals in that food that

603
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,640
alone, you know, that hamburger
from wherever you're getting it

604
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,960
from, unless you're getting it,
you know, it's 100%.

605
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're assuming.

606
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Not we're going.
We're going to eat at a fast

607
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:38,920
food place.
Yeah.

608
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,960
That thing is filled with
chemicals.

609
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,480
Yeah.
OK.

610
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,480
That's your starting point.
It hasn't even gotten into your

611
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,000
mouth.
And you just imagine you've got

612
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,760
this hamburger filled with
chemicals.

613
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,960
Now you're going to bite into it
and you're going to put that in

614
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,720
your gut.
Yeah.

615
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,640
And that all these chemicals,
some of them are going to be

616
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,640
absorbed.
Yeah.

617
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,080
And they're going to start
creating.

618
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,000
They have to be filtered out
through the liver and the

619
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,840
kidney.
So they're going to hit your

620
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,560
bloodstream, OK.
These are chemicals that are

621
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,120
hazardous to your health.
We don't even know what these

622
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,000
chemicals do.
Actually, a lot of chemicals

623
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,760
that are in our food are even
they're banned in Europe and we

624
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,240
still put them in our food.
Well, hopefully I'll be

625
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,640
changing.
Yeah, hopefully I'll be

626
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,680
changing.
But so now you've got you're

627
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,560
eating these chemicals, it's
going to affect your microbiome.

628
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,000
Yeah, which really has a huge
impact if you don't have a

629
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,600
healthy GI system.
Yeah, that's going to be a first

630
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,000
point where inflammation can
start, OK.

631
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,120
And then now you have these
chemicals floating through your

632
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,520
body.
That's another point.

633
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,840
We don't know what those
chemicals are with.

634
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,920
By the way, I was scared the
heck out of me.

635
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,960
Someone asked me the difference
recently between a chemical and

636
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,040
a drug.
I was like, I don't know.

637
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,040
They're like a drug.
A drug is intended for human use

638
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,160
and a chemical is not.
Well, I mean, that's, well, it's

639
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,600
almost like the word organic,
you know, What does organic

640
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,120
mean?
Like in the food industry, it

641
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,400
has it.
It means like the animal or, you

642
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,160
know, the produce has no
pesticides or chemicals.

643
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,360
Yeah.
But there's a lot of organic,

644
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,840
I'm quoting chemicals, right,
that are used in chemistry labs.

645
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,400
And so it's really it's kind of
like what yours.

646
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,520
What so it says organic on it
doesn't?

647
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,840
No, no, no, I'm not saying that,
OK.

648
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,960
No, no.
Like hopefully the foods that we

649
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480
buy that are organic are
organic.

650
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Organic, right?
You know, hopefully that means

651
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,680
something that would be awful if
it didn't.

652
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,360
I mean, there are people who
speculate that it may not all

653
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,560
the time, but you know, we can
only do our best, like.

654
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,040
We could only do our best.
We're, we're on this planet,

655
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,840
there's a tremendous amount of
chemicals.

656
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,080
There's plastics everywhere.
We're finding microparticles in

657
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,960
the brain by the way, you know,
so your productive.

658
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Organs all over the.
Place it's affecting all your

659
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,760
hormones, it's affecting your
gut, it's affecting people's

660
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,440
longevity for the most part.
And then you, you know, you add

661
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,680
on things like like.
My plastic water bottle.

662
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,400
You never drink out of plastic
water bottle.

663
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
I know, I know.
One of my biggest clips.

664
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,280
Yeah, I'm sorry.
You know, I'm I pick up plastic

665
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,960
all day long on the beach.
Like I'm out there with a bag

666
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,840
and I'm picking up plastic and
I'm thinking why that this is

667
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,800
devastating.
It's devastating to your body

668
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,480
and and it.
Yeah, because they can't pass up

669
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,560
the four for the 40.
The 40 pack of water bottles in

670
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Costco for $4.00 Pass it up.
Pass.

671
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,160
It up, get a water filter, get a
get a canister, fill it up with

672
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,040
water could.
A cooler be better or no because

673
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,920
it cools with one giant plastic
container as opposed to like a

674
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,480
bunch of little bottles.
It has plastic.

675
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,240
It's no.
Good.

676
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,440
OK, unless you're putting your
metal container into a plastic

677
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,280
cooler.
I got.

678
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,760
You, I would and you know,
you've got kids like you.

679
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,160
So what I tell my patients is,
you know, we may not have

680
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,560
control of what's going on out
there, but you have control of

681
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,480
what's going on in your life and
what you put in your body.

682
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,040
You certainly have a little bit
of control of that, right?

683
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,360
So you got it.
At least initiate, like, say,

684
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,840
OK, in my house, I'm not going
to use any chemicals, OK.

685
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,400
I'm going to, you know, my
cleaning products are going to

686
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,360
be healthy.
My I'm not going to drink.

687
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,440
I'm going to get rid of all my
plastic, all my plastic

688
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,360
containers.
I'm just going to use glass.

689
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,040
Easy.
Costco has glassware, you know.

690
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Yeah, I'm going to get a nice
water filter system.

691
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,280
And I'm going to fill up my
bottles before I leave my house.

692
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,000
Like simple things that you can
do to change the course of your

693
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,120
family's health.
You mean you have a baby?

694
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,520
Yeah, OK.
Right, like even the.

695
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,120
It feels better hearing that
from you than my wife.

696
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,000
I.
Love her, she.

697
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,760
Was like, I want, she was like,
you know, she goes, I don't want

698
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,320
to pressure you.
I know that, you know, there's a

699
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,160
lot of bills in life.
She's like, I'd really, really

700
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,960
like like a water filter.
You know how much money you

701
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,120
calculate.
I would love to know how much

702
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,280
money you spend a year on on
water.

703
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,200
Bottles, I can tell you right
now, probably I'd probably spend

704
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,480
15, probably spend $12.00 a week
on water bottles.

705
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,520
OK, so I probably finished that
340 packs a week, so it's 120

706
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,240
water bottles.
Yeah.

707
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,800
I don't want to think about the
amount of plastic that is.

708
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Let's not even talk about
plastic.

709
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,840
Let's talk.
About water, yeah, yeah, so.

710
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,280
Don't care about plastic, they
care about money. 12/24/12 but

711
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,639
not really today it's about $36
a month time so I'm spending

712
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,360
100.
I'm spending 120 bucks a year

713
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:17,920
100.
Dollars.

714
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,360
Now that's you.
You're one person.

715
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,679
How many people are, you know,
let's say your wife doesn't do

716
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:23,440
that.
Yeah.

717
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,000
OK.
So and then now you have the

718
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,800
years.
OK.

719
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,960
So how many years are you going
to, you know you're going to do

720
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,440
it for the next 20 years you've
done?

721
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,560
It.
Yeah, I've done it.

722
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,719
I've done it forever.
Yeah, OK.

723
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,360
And now you're going to do it
for the next 20.

724
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,800
So now we're up to a lot of.
OK.

725
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,400
Yeah.
So and what's the water filter?

726
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,840
What's the water filter cost
typically?

727
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,840
Couple thousand to us, Yeah.
Couple grand, I mean, you can

728
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,679
get a whole house water
filtration system that's pretty

729
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:52,000
decent, you know, for way less
than what?

730
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,880
And OK, so now we're going to
add in the chemical, the the

731
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,400
toxic component.
So you didn't just save money,

732
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,840
but now you're saving your cells
from a disastrous ending.

733
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520
We don't even know what that
ending is actually, because

734
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,200
these chemicals, this, the idea
that we were exposed to these

735
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,720
PFAS, these long term organic
chemicals that sit in your cells

736
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:17,480
for years and years, we are.
You know what the consequence is

737
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,160
not.
Really.

738
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,440
But we do know that, like,
cancer is rising, heart disease

739
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,040
is rising, yeah.
Yeah, but we know rising.

740
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,960
We know that whatever we've been
doing is not right.

741
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,240
That's what we.
Know, I keep saying to people

742
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:29,880
like, OK, when I went to Med
school, the number one leading

743
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,200
cause of death was
cardiovascular disease.

744
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,000
You know, then it was cancer.
Still, we have cardiologists up

745
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,040
the wazoo.
We have medications, we have all

746
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,160
these things in play.
And what's still the number one

747
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,320
leading cause of death?
Cardiovascular disease

748
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,840
worldwide, 18 million people.
And it's like nothing has

749
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,400
changed in a way in so many
years.

750
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Yeah.
So we're not.

751
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,160
What other direction can we look
in to change those statistics?

752
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,320
Because I don't want to become a
statistic.

753
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,840
No, you want to be a bit
statistic.

754
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,200
You want.
To be a bit and you're young,

755
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,360
like you're in a great, you're
in a great position because

756
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,680
there's so much new, there's so
much information.

757
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,440
Like, I know I'm always, always.
I'm so excited.

758
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,240
It's it's such an exciting time.
Really so exciting you know you

759
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,520
have so many tools available to
you stay healthy I'm.

760
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,000
Not like more people aren't
getting, you know, I think a lot

761
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,960
of people are excited, but like
hearing all this stuff is just

762
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,200
hopeful.
Like to me, like it's something

763
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,000
that like people don't want to
hear.

764
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,320
I imagine we've had, like, bad
news travels really fast.

765
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,760
And like, when you have an
opportunity for good news and

766
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,520
they give an opportunity for
something exciting to hear,

767
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,080
like, Oh my God, we're making
great research.

768
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,160
All you got to do is just spend
some time outside to go for a

769
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,040
walk with your friends for 20
minutes, you know.

770
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Yeah, a couple of times.
You know, a couple of times a

771
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,680
week, like just do that.
Like your life will already be

772
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,880
better.
Like you're getting community,

773
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,400
you're getting exercise, you're
getting out there, you're

774
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,160
getting sunlight.
Like I used to get these

775
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,160
headaches from sitting just at
my desk all day.

776
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,480
And then, you know, and I, I
spend probably 2-3 hours a day

777
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,080
outside now, maybe more.
You know, I love it.

778
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,320
And it just, even if I'm in
front of my screen the whole

779
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,120
time, just the sunlight in
general, just being outside

780
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,760
really, really effects my
stamina when it comes to work in

781
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,080
a positive way, effects how I'm
able to concentrate.

782
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,960
It stops those headaches from
happening and I am able to just

783
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,240
like just keep on going.
It's just we're meant to do

784
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,320
that, you know?
You know, yeah, that's where

785
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,760
that those, our ancestors, you
know, they were actually forced

786
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,160
to do it.
I'm not sure they were happy

787
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,560
about it.
You know, getting up early in

788
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,160
the morning and watching the
sunrise.

789
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,160
They were out working, right?
A lot of our farmers are out

790
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,080
there working.
So, you know, looking at the sun

791
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,040
early in the morning, going out
at noon.

792
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,720
So it registers, OK, it's noon,
your body can actually register

793
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,120
that.
Then going out again when the

794
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,680
sun's going down.
OK, now you know, we're going to

795
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,880
start, you know, calming the
body down, secreting hormones

796
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,920
that are.
So it's going to be 3 Jewish

797
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,400
prayers around the same time
too.

798
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,080
It's early morning as soon as
the sun comes up, noon and at

799
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,840
night after as the sun's going
down.

800
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,720
Imagine if you prayed outside.
Yeah, a lot of people do.

801
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,680
I know I do sometimes.
I do sometimes, but I never even

802
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,640
associated that with that.
But that could be part of the

803
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,480
value of a routine schedule
where every day it's a

804
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,440
combination of meditation and
actual, I mean, like, you know,

805
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,760
different points.
You're sure to get outside

806
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,200
between the point of waking up
and getting to synagogue or

807
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,320
praying.
Wherever you're praying or

808
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,880
whatever you're doing, you're
sure to be outside.

809
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,480
And your circadian rhythm will
be, I guess, consistent.

810
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,960
Oh, I mean, you can definitely
reset your circuit.

811
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,000
Like we have so many issues this
in our lives right now with

812
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,080
stress and sleep affecting our
health that, you know, if you,

813
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,600
if your circadian rhythm is off,
if you're not secreting the

814
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,320
right hormones, like you need
more cortisol, when you need the

815
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,360
cortisol, when you need that
energy and less at night when

816
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,360
you're going to bed, you want
that melatonin to kick in.

817
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,640
But you know, it's fascinating
because we like, I'm thinking

818
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,400
about you saying you go and you
pray three times a day, like

819
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,200
you're committed.
Yeah, something in, yeah, there

820
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,920
was a trigger, a switch went off
and said this is what I'm going

821
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,960
to do.
Like I believe in this, right?

822
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,240
Yeah, I don't did it like it may
have.

823
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,240
No, it came from the value of I
have a tendency to be lazy.

824
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,520
I think a lot of people do, and
laziness is my least favorite

825
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,600
trait in the world.
Because it takes every other

826
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,760
good trait that you have and
throws into the garbage.

827
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,360
Because doesn't make a
difference how smart you are.

828
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,400
Doesn't make a difference how?
Talking to the art doesn't make

829
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,920
a difference how naturally fit
you are.

830
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,560
It doesn't make any of that,
none of that makes a difference

831
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,560
because if you're lazy, you're
lazy, you're not going to do it.

832
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,960
So I part, I started
implementing that as a way to

833
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,600
fight my laziness.
And then I mean, you know,

834
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,800
obviously there is the religious
value, the spiritual, emotional,

835
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,360
religious value to it as well.
But one of the real reasons I

836
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,120
really started working hard is
because I did not want like its

837
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,920
regiment in the face of
laziness.

838
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,440
And then hopefully, and once I'm
already getting myself out of

839
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,920
the out of the just sitting
around zone, then that affects

840
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,880
everything else I do, you know,
and my wife asked me to do

841
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,480
something.
I'm much quicker to get up and

842
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,880
jump up and show her that I care
to do it.

843
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,960
If my kid is crying, you know,
my kid calls me or falls down, I

844
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,280
pop up.
I'm like, oh, it's not like, you

845
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,920
know, go, you know, do your own
thing.

846
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,160
I'm on the couch.
I don't want to get up right

847
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,840
now.
And hopefully it creates that

848
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,480
kind of environment, but it
affects everything in a positive

849
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,160
way, so.
It's kind of like that's your

850
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,480
form of meditation.
I guess so.

851
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,720
Meditation actually comes from
Yeah, I want to work on

852
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:23,360
meditation.
I don't really know quite where

853
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,800
that is, but yes, we're gonna,
we're gonna circle.

854
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Back yes, you can.
You can meditate while you pray.

855
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,400
Like meditation doesn't
necessarily mean sitting in

856
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,480
cross legged.
It can mean a lot of different

857
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,840
things.
You could be sort of active in

858
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,400
your meditation.
The Buddhists do a lot of

859
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,160
walking meditation.
But Oh yeah, I love that you can

860
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,560
pair.
Like if you were my patient, I

861
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,920
would say, OK, if I you, you go
three times a day, you pray.

862
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,360
Why don't you attach that to
going outside?

863
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,520
So now you're praying and you're
looking up at the sky, you know,

864
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,520
morning, noon and evening.
So now you're, you're also

865
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,520
resetting your circadian rhythm
at the same time that you're

866
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,320
doing something that you're 100%
committed to.

867
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,720
So you know you're going to do
it.

868
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,640
And that's how you create a new
habit, right?

869
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,200
Like and then now we have 2
lifestyle things that are

870
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,120
dramatically going to impact
your health because praying is

871
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,680
really calming.
I'm sure like unless you're

872
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,720
rushing to get there but.
Well yeah, it depends on the

873
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:19,920
day.
I try to make it calming.

874
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,240
Yeah.
So if you can, I mean, if you're

875
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:26,760
rushing through a prayer and
you're not feeling it, you know,

876
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000
I think it's important to like
feel what you're saying or

877
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,800
praying for.
Yeah, I it's a, it's a struggle

878
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,760
every single time.
Is it?

879
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:40,600
It is it is because you're
plopping yourself out of goes go

880
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,000
mode.
And by the way, meditation would

881
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,040
probably help with my prayer
being more present because I'm

882
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,720
going I'm I'm shifting without
any transition.

883
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,120
I'm shifting gears without
putting my foot, without putting

884
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:57,280
my foot on the clutch.
And so I so it's very easy if I

885
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,200
do it the wrong way to stall
out, you know?

886
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,960
Here's the thing.
So maybe what you can do.

887
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,800
So just give me a synopsis.
Where are you praying?

888
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,320
In a synagogue.
OK, so you have to go to.

889
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,760
Yeah, so I drive 15 minutes to
the synagogue, 1015 minutes.

890
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,680
Is that stressful?
No, it's very pleasant.

891
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:17,240
OK, so while you're in the car
driving, if it's pleasant, why

892
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:19,080
don't you start taking some deep
breaths?

893
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,640
Yeah, that's what I got to do.
You know, you got to take some

894
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,480
deep breaths.
You know, I'm breathing in, I'm

895
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,200
breathing out.
You can, you can say something

896
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,640
if it calms you down or just
focus on your breath while

897
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,080
you're driving.
And that'll immediately get you

898
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,640
into the present moment so that
when you get to the synagogue,

899
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,880
you don't feel rushed or afraid.
And the transition to prayer is

900
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,280
a natural one because you've
already been meditating,

901
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,160
correct?
And focusing on your breath for

902
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,320
15 minutes.
I'll be shifting from 1st to 2nd

903
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,080
to 3rd to 4th gear.
And this way you're not

904
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,880
shifting, you get in the car and
it's not easy like you to to

905
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,120
focus on your breath for those
15 minutes.

906
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,200
Try it.
It's not an easy fast.

907
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,920
I do 5 minutes at a time.
Typically when I'm overwhelmed,

908
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,920
I'll do in and out.
I'll breathe in for five

909
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,960
seconds, out for five seconds,
for 5 minutes.

910
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,280
And I'll just, sometimes I'll
just focus on where, sorry, just

911
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:14,560
like the time like 123-451-2345.
And sometimes, you know, like

912
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,200
that voice of 12345, the
counting voice kind of starts to

913
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,400
slip off to the side and then
other, other things start coming

914
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,800
in.
Like what?

915
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,800
Thoughts.
Yeah, the.

916
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And but it's, again, it's like a

917
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,800
current being pulled back, you
know, very, very slowly.

918
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,160
And it's a little scary,
honestly, to see what's going to

919
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,440
come because like, you're like,
oh, this is like, I don't know,

920
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,600
I've never been here before.
You know, I went to, I went to a

921
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,800
Grateful Dead cover band in Port
Chester and there's something

922
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,160
about this particular band.
They're awesome.

923
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,480
They're called Dark Star
Orchestra.

924
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,920
And I may have taken an edible
beforehand.

925
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,160
And I'm sitting there and there
are lights and use the music and

926
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,880
I'm a little high and I and
it's, you know, this would be

927
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,280
and like the music was just
magnificent.

928
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,680
And I was like, and the lights,
the way they were playing into

929
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,040
the lights of the concert was
matching the tone of the music.

930
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,720
And I was like, I'm going to try
to do some breath work now while

931
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,960
I'm here.
And, like, I almost kind of like

932
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,440
slipped into like some kind of
like, like psychedelic state.

933
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,840
Yeah.
You know, that I was like, whoa,

934
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,760
like, I'm not ready to, like, go
quite there yet.

935
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,560
And I kind of, like, stopped to
pull myself out of it.

936
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,520
But I'd be curious to see what
happens if, like, you kind of

937
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,880
follow those, follow those paths
all the way down.

938
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,240
It's just a little scary to.
There's nothing.

939
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,800
I mean, actually, those places
are magnificent.

940
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,440
I mean, it's hard to do if
you're on a if you're high, then

941
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,520
you don't know where you're
going to land.

942
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,240
But if you're not, that's a
different, that's a different

943
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:46,760
thing.
And it is kind of scary to let

944
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,560
yourself go.
But those are good places to go.

945
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,200
I.
Know, I know, I know.

946
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,160
It's.
I've never had an experience

947
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,320
where I was scared to do it and
I regretted doing what I was

948
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,800
scared about.
Oh yeah?

949
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,720
Well, you know.
Yeah, but plenty of times I

950
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:01,800
haven't done something I'm
scared about, and I've regretted

951
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,520
it, Right, You know?
So full story.

952
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,400
Are you ready for this?
Yeah, I've been keeping track of

953
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,440
the whole conversation.
So you have plastics,

954
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,880
microplastics that are in your
gut because you're eating this

955
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,760
cheeseburger and you got
inflammation.

956
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,200
And so now you're getting
inflammation.

957
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,440
Well, now let's say, for
example, a lot of people are

958
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,920
sensitive to wheat.
They have gluten sensitivities,

959
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,120
not necessary allergies.
It's not like you're going to go

960
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,120
into an anaphylaxis where you
need an EpiPen, but sensitivity

961
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,040
to wheat.
So now you've got wheat going

962
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,240
into your system, you've got
these toxins.

963
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,120
Chemicals that are in these
burgers.

964
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,640
So, but you know, right there,
yeah, we haven't even really

965
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,320
gotten into the body and we're
filled with the potential for

966
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,640
inflammation.
So that's.

967
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,440
So that means that inflamed just
means upset.

968
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,920
It means hurt, damage.
What does inflammation mean?

969
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,320
Inflammation in the traditional
sense means like you cut

970
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,840
yourself.
If you cut yourself, your body's

971
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,080
way of healing is it creates an
inflammatory response and then

972
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,000
cells get into that area that
actually heal.

973
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,480
OK.
You know, everyone, people talk

974
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,080
about inflammation like a fire,
you know, and you're putting the

975
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,080
fire out.
OK, But then there are little

976
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,160
fires happening in your body all
the time because of this chronic

977
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,560
inflammation that are stirring
things up that are creating

978
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,120
damage there to the cells, to
your the lining of your vessels,

979
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,800
creating a potential for a
plaque or to your organs,

980
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,480
creating inflammation in in
particular organs and, or you

981
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,080
know, if you have.
Because there's all these little

982
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,480
fires popping up around your
body.

983
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,040
Correct.
And so that's where chronic

984
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,680
inflammation.
And what and.

985
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,720
And if there's too many fires,
your cells can't keep up to put

986
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,240
them out.
So it's activating your immune

987
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:43,360
system, right?
So your immune system is no

988
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,120
longer reacting to a virus or
bacteria, but it's chronically

989
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,520
being activated and it's
creating damage.

990
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:55,600
It's actually creating oxidative
stress and it's creating damage.

991
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,800
And that that ages people.
Right.

992
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,920
It creates the IT creates.
It's a setup for Alzheimer's.

993
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,280
It's a setup for a
cardiovascular event because the

994
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,720
lining of the artery can get
inflamed and the plaque could

995
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:11,520
break off.
So it causes damage in many

996
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,800
areas.
Connections in our body, it's

997
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,120
almost like the the streets are
getting damaged for our like, is

998
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,320
that, is that like a good
metaphor?

999
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,320
Like if like the like, yeah,
like you're chipping away at the

1000
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,040
road and then it becomes bumpy
to drive down and you're like,

1001
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,080
OK, I'm not going to take this
road.

1002
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,640
Rd.
But you know, if you don't take

1003
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,560
that road then the connections
in your brain aren't going to be

1004
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,280
as stable or secure.
I mean pretty much if you think,

1005
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,840
I mean, I like to use the
example of fire because it

1006
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,560
actually makes a lot of sense.
So you can have an acute

1007
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,800
inflammation where something
happens, you cut yourself, your

1008
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,800
body sends things in there and
it puts the hose and takes the

1009
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,080
fire up.
But if you have this chronic

1010
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,840
inflammation from so many
different things and even stress

1011
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,200
can impede your immune system.
So it's not working as well to

1012
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,480
put out these fires like these
cascade of events that are

1013
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,040
happening are not.
It's not as simple as it's like

1014
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,920
that whole element we're talking
about.

1015
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,400
Everything is connected.
So if you're eating wheat, for

1016
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,920
example, and you're sensitive to
wheat, and now that wheat enters

1017
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,960
into your stomach, it should
just be processed in a normal

1018
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,680
person and then your GI tract
would work.

1019
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,920
It would that wheat protein
would never be seen by your

1020
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,760
blood.
It would never cause an antibody

1021
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,840
to be formed.
It would never cause a reaction.

1022
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,640
But now we have these chemicals
disrupting the lining of the

1023
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,600
guts, and now the lining of the
gut can potentially leak things

1024
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,360
that shouldn't be leaked into
the bloodstream.

1025
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,000
And now the bloodstream is
seeing.

1026
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,880
So you're weakening your butt,
your your your, your gut, and

1027
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,960
then think and things that your
gut supposed to naturally

1028
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,200
protect and prevent from getting
into your bloodstream are able

1029
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,720
to get through.
Yeah.

1030
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,160
So your body and your body sees
them is foreign.

1031
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,680
Right.
And I bet a lot of it is

1032
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,360
foreign.
I bet like the stuff that's if

1033
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,520
you I mean I've heard.
Some of it is.

1034
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,800
Some of it's not like an allergy
to, you know, we shouldn't be

1035
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,640
allergic to our environment in
theory.

1036
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,880
Why are we allergic to grass?
Yeah, I mean, but we are because

1037
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,080
people's immune systems are
different, right?

1038
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,640
But there's some I, we're just
talking about 1 area where you

1039
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,600
can get a potential inflammation
because you brought up the

1040
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,080
hamburger, right?
But it sets off a cascade of

1041
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,520
many events.
If you're only eating this and

1042
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,320
it's, and it's filled with
chemicals and it's filled with

1043
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,840
something that your body is
sensitive to.

1044
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,400
Now your body is more inflamed,
whether it's your brain or your

1045
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,960
heart.
And now you're set up for

1046
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,640
chronic disease.
And that's, you know, in the

1047
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,880
world of longevity medicine,
it's like you try to figure out,

1048
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,200
OK, first of all, what's causing
that inflammation?

1049
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,080
How do I bring that person back
into balance?

1050
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,680
And there's so many elements
that you need to look at,

1051
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,680
whether it's, you know, the
stress in their life, what

1052
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,080
they're putting in their bodies.
Do they have problems with the

1053
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,880
lining of their gut?
Are they over inflamed?

1054
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,760
Is their immune system
overreactive?

1055
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,400
Are they creating fires all over
their body, which is basically

1056
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:10,000
like your car is rusting, right?
So if you have a car, I used to

1057
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,600
use this metaphor all the time
when I was giving lectures, like

1058
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,240
everyone takes their car in
religiously, right to be

1059
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,960
serviced.
People don't do that for

1060
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,440
themselves, unfortunately, until
a lot of people, I shouldn't say

1061
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,680
everybody.
Some people are very proactive

1062
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,440
with their health, but most
people don't react until

1063
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,560
something has happened and then
they get active.

1064
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,200
Sure.
And then it's a very slippery

1065
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,760
slope, by the way, because then
once you start realizing one

1066
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,360
thing, then you start realizing,
Oh my God, it's all like you

1067
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,520
said, because it's all connected
it.

1068
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,400
But I feel like that actually
scares some people off because

1069
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,920
that causes it requires massive
overhaul.

1070
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,280
Well, it requires a massive
overhaul if you already have a

1071
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:54,120
disease and not not always, but
so that's why in the that's why

1072
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,840
it's good to get Someone Like
You in.

1073
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,080
So if we can get people taking
care of themselves, learning

1074
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,320
about this when you're younger,
how do I prevent this?

1075
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,680
How amazing would that be if you
knew what you were genetically

1076
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,760
predisposed to, if you knew, you
know, that, you know, drinking

1077
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,400
water out of plastic was bad and
you stopped doing if you learned

1078
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,320
that, OK, if I take, if I do
this, if I look at the sun in

1079
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,800
the morning and at noon and at
night, I'm going to reset my

1080
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,320
circadian rhythm.
If I start meditating, I'm going

1081
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,920
to calm my nervous system down
so I'm not always in the fight

1082
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,040
or flight mode.
I'm going to, you know, take

1083
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:31,640
toxic chemicals out of my house.
There's so many interventions

1084
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,320
that we can do before you get
sick that would help.

1085
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,680
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think it

1086
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:41,680
could be wrong.
I think Peter Attia calls in

1087
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,720
Medicine 3.0 like the whole idea
of like it's not just treating,

1088
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:47,960
it's like everything leading up
to that to make sure it doesn't

1089
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,920
happen.
But then when it if it does

1090
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,920
happen, we have the ability to
handle it.

1091
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,360
But don't wait for that to be
the case.

1092
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,160
Yeah.
I mean, once you're in that,

1093
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,560
once you have a disease, it's
much harder to reverse and

1094
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,760
prevent.
You know it's a it's.

1095
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:01,760
Yeah, yeah.
So that's what I find.

1096
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,320
So that's so go back to my dad.
That's why.

1097
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,840
That's why I'm trying to get him
now to do these kind of things.

1098
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,400
I'm like, you don't want that.
You don't want to start fighting

1099
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,120
this, It's too late.
You want to do this in advance.

1100
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,240
You never have to know about.
It yeah, and you know, a lot of

1101
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,720
people, they don't want to
change their lives.

1102
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:20,160
They're really comfortable in
not doing what they should be

1103
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,160
doing.
You know, it's really hard to

1104
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,520
change habits so that's why some
people need a shock.

1105
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,760
They need to.
Oh, you, now you go and you get

1106
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,960
blood work and Oh my God, my
cholesterol is.

1107
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,320
The shock, what it could do to
people is crazy.

1108
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:36,440
It can change people.
You get diagnosed with something

1109
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,520
and that's going to motivate
you.

1110
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,560
But the question is, how do you
get motivated before that

1111
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,440
happens?
Right?

1112
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,000
Like for some people, it's
family.

1113
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,360
Yeah, well, I've got a kid who's
2 and you know how?

1114
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,960
Many weeks old, one week OK
legit.

1115
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,320
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to be
there when my kids, you know,

1116
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,680
get married and have.
Grandkids.

1117
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,840
That's my good friends just now.
By the way, he lost like I think

1118
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,720
like 115 lbs in like a year
because he went to his doctor.

1119
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:06,280
His doctor was like, if you
want, he had his four kids under

1120
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,040
6.
I think at that point he had two

1121
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,680
and his wife was expecting right
sick.

1122
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,240
If you want to go to your kids
wedding this you got to cut the

1123
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:16,760
shit out.
And he and he and he started

1124
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,920
exercising and he started he he
got a good amount of sunlight,

1125
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,240
but he started exercising and
being healthy.

1126
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:24,800
Like he just, you know, like, I
think emotion, I think like

1127
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,680
eating people become like people
turn eating into activity, you

1128
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,920
know, not into, not into
something that's just required.

1129
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,680
Like it's not like putting in
gas in your car.

1130
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:39,880
It's like how can we get the
purple bubble gum flavored gas?

1131
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,600
You know, like you try to dig
into more fun experience.

1132
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,880
Yeah, and you don't want to take
that away from somebody.

1133
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,720
So like I try to always find a
compromise for people because

1134
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:51,480
you don't want to take away
their pleasures or all of their

1135
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,400
pleasures.
And at the same time, you know,

1136
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,440
you want to let them know if you
continue doing the if you

1137
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,640
continue behaving this way,
you're a setup for.

1138
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,200
And then and then what?
Then you're in the medical

1139
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,120
system.
God, don't.

1140
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,320
If you can avoid being in the
medical system, you know, if you

1141
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:17,080
can avoid medications and it's,
it saves you so much time, so

1142
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,000
much money.
That's I think the cause of

1143
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,280
people.
The lead cause of bankruptcy

1144
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,640
among individual families or
family people being broke in

1145
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,840
America is medical pills.
Yeah, that's.

1146
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,400
Really.
Medical expenses, It's terrible.

1147
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,000
It's really, that's really
terrible.

1148
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,680
I just like there's so many
things that we can do.

1149
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,280
And The thing is that people,
it's really hard to tell

1150
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,440
somebody that if you exercise,
you're going to feel good.

1151
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,040
Especially if you have an
exercise and the first time you

1152
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,280
do it, it's really hard and you
don't feel good.

1153
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,600
The next day, you hurt and
whatever.

1154
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,360
But at some point, that switch
goes off and it starts feeling

1155
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,080
good.
Yeah.

1156
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,560
And you have to get that.
It's really hard to get the

1157
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,440
person to that point.
But if you can, like, with your

1158
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,160
dad, like, do it with him or
like, just sometimes you just

1159
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,240
got to force yourself.
I tell people, hire a trainer if

1160
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,320
you can afford it.
Or go to a gym, commit, you

1161
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,160
know, pay for something.
And usually people are get

1162
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,240
committed when they pay for a
gym membership.

1163
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,800
I'm going to go and start small.
Yeah.

1164
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,720
You know, it's, it can be
overwhelming taking care of your

1165
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:17,520
health and this body.
And then, you know, you've got

1166
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,920
your your home and your kids and
it's a lot.

1167
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,400
Yeah.
It's a lot to take in.

1168
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,160
So small steps.
Yeah.

1169
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:25,320
Start small.
Yeah.

1170
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,360
You know, And then little by
little it grows like, like an

1171
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,680
investment.
It's snowballs.

1172
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,960
Yeah, it's snowballs.
I don't recognize my house now

1173
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,080
from two years ago.
I don't recognize the food in

1174
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,480
it.
I don't recognize the cleaning

1175
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,480
material that we use.
Oh.

1176
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,080
You like she saved everything.
Oh yeah, me too.

1177
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,000
I do.
I like to shop.

1178
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,680
Actually shopping for me is like
therapeutic.

1179
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,240
Even when I was in college and
I'd be like stressed out over

1180
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:50,280
anything, I'd be like, can't go
to my mates, I'm running to the

1181
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,440
supermarket.
Like I'd run out and just walk

1182
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,680
me down the aisles, you know.
And so I do a lot of shopping

1183
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,480
now and I'm looking and today
actually, I was just going back

1184
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,120
from Trader Joe's this morning.
I'm looking at my card.

1185
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,120
I'm like, when did I turn into
this person?

1186
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,080
You know, like when did I turn
into the guy that, you know,

1187
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,040
was, you know, the in college,
all I'm putting in my cart was

1188
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,120
beer and like hot dogs.
And now I'm putting in like, you

1189
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,120
know, cottage cheese and like
kidwa pasta for like my wife.

1190
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,440
And like, what is this?
Like this is the this is a trip.

1191
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,720
This is weird, you know, but
yeah.

1192
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:25,600
But I think, I think that the
point is that I think it's scary

1193
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,240
for a lot of people to start,
but I think it does snowball.

1194
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:29,360
I think people do find to have
an easier time with it

1195
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,440
eventually.
And I think we do, you know,

1196
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,760
it's so funny because we, we're,
we're, you know, we commit to

1197
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,240
going to work every day, but we
can't like it's hard for us to

1198
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:41,120
commit to doing exercise.
I know that work brings money.

1199
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,080
And I'm not saying that that
should be ignored, but it's

1200
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,120
interesting what we choose to
commit to like 100% of our time.

1201
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,000
And so it's really important to
understand, especially when

1202
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,480
you're young and it's easy to
think, I'm so resilient.

1203
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,200
Nothing ever going to happen to
me because you feel good.

1204
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,760
So like, why do you have to
change anything but even small

1205
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,840
changes and then setting up
those habits, Like my mom, I

1206
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:10,560
remember she started, my mom is
89 and she's in amazing shape.

1207
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,040
Amazing.
Ridiculous, really.

1208
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,080
Yeah.
She's so happy.

1209
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,920
She just stay in healthy shape
for a long time.

1210
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,240
She walks every day, like twice
a day.

1211
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,360
She's committed to that.
She just eats.

1212
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,680
She's not even that interested
in organic, but she's very

1213
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,080
wholesome.
She cooks all her food.

1214
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,680
She doesn't eat out a lot.
My grandfather's the same way.

1215
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,960
And he was so healthy, right?
Like simple.

1216
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,400
He he, he, yeah, he ended up he
had, he was 91.

1217
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,760
He got a stroke, unfortunately,
and he wasn't, he wasn't the

1218
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,320
same after that.
But till he was 91, living

1219
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,720
alone, yeah, You know, walk 3-4,
two between two and five miles a

1220
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:48,040
day, you know, into, into his
90s cooked by himself, you know,

1221
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,960
granted simple food, you know,
you get you go to the farmer's

1222
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,040
market, you get some, you get
some eggs, you get some meat,

1223
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,720
you get some yogurt, you get
some whatever.

1224
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,800
And.
Where was he?

1225
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,120
In New Jersey, Fairlawn, New
Jersey, yeah, yeah, yeah, You

1226
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,360
just stop at local Fairlawn and
we just.

1227
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,480
And and.
And he and he was sharp as a

1228
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,840
tack and he was smart and he was
healthy and he took care of the

1229
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,360
home and he cleaned every day
and.

1230
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,440
And he and like people would
meet him be like, you look

1231
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,040
better than my 6 year old dad.
You, you know, you look better

1232
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,600
than my 65 year old uncle.
Like it's crazy, you know?

1233
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,240
I I know that like my mom, she's
you're so.

1234
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,800
You, you, you came up.
You grew up in a healthy family.

1235
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,600
I really, I actually really did.
My mom is from Europe and so and

1236
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,200
she grew up on a Hungary.
Yes, so and she grew up like

1237
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,640
part of her, she also went
through the Holocaust.

1238
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,680
So she, but she grew up on a
farm and so she's very back to

1239
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,560
the earth, organic in living,
like she believed, like when we

1240
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,680
were sick, she'd put us in a
stroller.

1241
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,640
You got to get fresh air.
You got to get fresh air, you

1242
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,640
know, like you got.
It so it's really so I'm going

1243
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,520
to like grandfather.
Such a European attitude.

1244
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,840
But it's she's stoic.
I mean, she's and she loves to

1245
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,520
clean, I think because she likes
movement.

1246
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,840
She knows that, you know, we
don't, we don't do a lot of

1247
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,080
these things.
You know, we are eating packaged

1248
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,160
foods.
We're not cleaning.

1249
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,000
We're not.
Cleaning.

1250
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,200
Cleaning is such a simple thing
and it feels so good.

1251
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,840
I.
Know I mean I hate to say it, I

1252
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,200
I loved having someone clean my
house, but the same time now I

1253
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,560
when I clean I put weights on.
Doesn't need to be deep clean by

1254
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,120
the way, like, you know, like I
couldn't like my wife like maybe

1255
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,000
once every couple of months
we'll hire just like someone to

1256
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,120
do a clean like a deep clean.
Yeah, but I do just wipe down

1257
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,680
counters vacuum fault laundry
and like he just like again just

1258
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,400
to move it.
You feel great.

1259
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,240
You feel a lot.
You feel like you're like.

1260
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,280
Right, but try, I mean try to
convince people that cleaning

1261
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,280
is.
I think you.

1262
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,080
Could.
Yeah, I think you got to, you

1263
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,720
know, you got to get the right
people to do it.

1264
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,040
I think I know you do.
You got to get people that

1265
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,120
people look up to.
And it's like, because I think

1266
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,720
it's all associations, right?
It's all like people like

1267
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,560
associate wiping down counters
and vacuuming with like a grumpy

1268
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,320
old woman in ATV in a, in a
movie or Cinderella or something

1269
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,000
like that, you know?
You know what I like about

1270
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,120
cleaning it?
There's a beginning, there's a

1271
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,520
middle, and there's an end.
Not I'm not talking about

1272
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,280
cleaning out your closets.
I'm like the floor.

1273
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,880
Like if I take on the task of a
floor, it's so pleasurable to

1274
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,680
like, you know, literally have
an ending.

1275
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,640
Like a lot of life doesn't have
an ending.

1276
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,440
And that's what makes it
stressful is you don't know

1277
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,920
where it's falling.
It's such a great, it's such, I

1278
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,240
never noticed it, but you're
correct.

1279
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,200
Because when you're done and you
look around and it's like you

1280
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,440
feel like you're in a different.
Room you did it you clean the

1281
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,600
floor I mean a basic task and
then I told you I started

1282
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,120
wearing weights when I clean and
bands on my legs because I my.

1283
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,160
Mom does that.
And I'm like, this is, this is

1284
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,640
great.
Like I'm sweating, I'm

1285
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,080
exercising now.
My cleaning has like many

1286
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,560
purposes.
Yeah, Yeah.

1287
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,800
I actually really, I look
forward to it because I know I'm

1288
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,520
getting a lot, but I, you know,
I understand people are busy

1289
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,000
and.
I don't know.

1290
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,320
I think it's good for you.
I think that.

1291
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,120
I don't think it's a bad thing
to say that.

1292
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,560
I think it's part of the.
I think responsibility and

1293
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,240
meaning and happiness all go
hand in hand.

1294
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:09,920
And I think that choosing to
take on even simple things adds

1295
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,160
to your sense of responsibility,
which adds to your sense of

1296
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,200
meaning and happiness, which
ultimately helps you know, And

1297
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,040
it might be a little thing and
you're like, OK, poo poo.

1298
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,720
But like, you do it.
You feel like a better human

1299
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,480
being.
You know, you know, it's also

1300
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,560
like we've gotten away from that
organic type of living because

1301
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,520
we, a lot of us do, you know, we
work so much.

1302
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,520
We're in offices, we're in
closed spaces.

1303
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,120
Some people are really isolated,
very different than what our

1304
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,080
ancestors did, you know?
And I think, like my, I always

1305
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,760
think, how do I get back to the
basics?

1306
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,480
Like, really like finding
pleasure in the smallest of

1307
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,640
things because if you don't look
for them, you don't find them.

1308
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,280
Yeah.
And then your life, you know,

1309
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,440
you have to think what, you
know, everyone's saying, what

1310
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,960
are you grateful for?
Like some people have nothing on

1311
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,720
their list, so you got to find
the littlest of things, right?

1312
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,600
Like to start, you have to start
somewhere.

1313
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,200
Like whether it's your diet or
your gratitude journal or your

1314
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,320
meditation or your prayer like
or your breathing like just

1315
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,560
start.
And The thing is you're never

1316
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,560
going to be ready.
You cannot wait until you're

1317
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,760
ready, because if you wait till
you're ready, I'm.

1318
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,440
So happy it's coming from you
and not me.

1319
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,560
But that's how.
I agree with.

1320
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,520
You, I mean, these are your
thoughts, I have to say every

1321
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,360
day like you have to know, get
up and just do it because you're

1322
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,040
not going to be ready to start
that project ever because you're

1323
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:33,200
I'm, I'm I, I would say I'm kind
of type A, you have to be kind

1324
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,840
of to get through Med school.
And so unless it's perfect, I

1325
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,080
don't proceed.
And so I'm trying to retrain my

1326
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,120
brain.
Actually, I'm doing I'm learning

1327
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,040
a lot about neuroplasticity,
which is amazing.

1328
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,840
I love it because up until now
I've been in that, you know, in

1329
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,160
my personal life, working on my
spirituality and I put that in

1330
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:55,200
quotation marks.
And now I'm, I'm also using my

1331
01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:00,280
neuroplastic brain to help me.
So it's not just about

1332
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,280
spirituality.
It's like I want to change those

1333
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,880
pathways that, you know, I've
been doing this for a long time

1334
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,120
and I don't like this habit.
So how do I change?

1335
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,640
It yeah.
So what do you so so I what are

1336
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,800
some things that you do to do
that?

1337
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,760
So.
So first of all, you.

1338
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,760
What is actually first, define
neuroplasticity in case sorry

1339
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,080
just yeah, because I'm familiar
with it.

1340
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,040
I want to make sure that.
Well, so the brain has the

1341
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,640
ability to constantly create new
neural pathways.

1342
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,440
So like who you are today, if
you don't like a certain element

1343
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,360
of how you think or how you are,
you can actually change that.

1344
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,360
And I actually remind all my
patients, like, just remember

1345
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,280
the body wants to heal.
Like whatever it's doing,

1346
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,240
whether it's inflammation or, or
even other things that chronic

1347
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,320
diseases, a lot of it, your body
really doesn't want to be sick.

1348
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,040
Your body is moving towards
healing.

1349
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,320
Your brain is not just this
organ that's sitting there and

1350
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,600
it's not changing.
It's changing all the time.

1351
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:02,280
So you have the ability to
change the way you, you think in

1352
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,640
your daily life.
If you've been doing, if you've

1353
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,720
been taking the same path to
work every single day, that path

1354
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,360
is ingrained, right?
And it gets deeper and deeper

1355
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:11,400
and deeper.
Imagine that.

1356
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,160
And then over time you could put
planks because it's so deep,

1357
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,760
it's muddy.
You put planks and you make it

1358
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,120
even more solid, right?
And that's where, you know,

1359
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,640
chemicals start to get secreted
in your brain.

1360
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,840
And that path is really well
defined.

1361
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,960
OK, I want to go on a different
path.

1362
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,680
So now how do you do that?
How do I create new neural

1363
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,440
pathway?
So I want to change.

1364
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,200
So first of all you have to try
something different, you have to

1365
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,480
think differently and you have
to try something different.

1366
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,800
So when I say like, you don't.
Do a big thing or could be a

1367
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,440
little.
No, really small.

1368
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,840
They can watch for example.
So let's say saves.

1369
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,720
Me let's.
Afternoon, let's say.

1370
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,880
Wait, let's think about, you
know, let's say you you think

1371
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,840
poorly about yourself, for
example, OK, I'm not good

1372
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:57,880
enough.
I'm not good enough.

1373
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,800
OK, you were born, your parents
would say you're not good

1374
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,280
enough.
You grew up thinking I'm not

1375
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,560
good enough.
Now that pathway is pretty set

1376
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,560
in the brain.
So everything that hits you in

1377
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,080
life says I'm not good enough.
I can't do this, right.

1378
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,560
OK, so now I want to change
that.

1379
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,720
So there have been studies that
show that the first thing, one

1380
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,600
of the first things that you can
do is like, you can cheer

1381
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,840
yourself on like a coach and
say, no, you can do this.

1382
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,200
I started doing it when I jog.
Do you I?

1383
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,080
Did it when I jog Yeah, that's
even more, especially when I was

1384
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,520
my parents if you.
Have movement and a thought

1385
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,440
that's even more powerful and
creating neuroplastics like

1386
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,920
changes in your brain.
One of the, when I, I, I used

1387
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:40,640
to, I grew up in upstate New
York in Rockland County and, and

1388
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,520
it's very hilly there.
And I, you know, I started, I

1389
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,720
started jogging just after
college and, and I was, you

1390
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,480
know, I'd take on these huge
hills and then I would say to

1391
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,240
myself while I'm doing it, like
you have you got this?

1392
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,640
You got, I'd say it out loud.
I'd hear it over my music on my

1393
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,640
headphones while I'm driving up.
Like you got this.

1394
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,160
The only thing stopping you is
you.

1395
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,240
The only thing stopping you is
you.

1396
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,800
You got this, you got this, you
got this.

1397
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,480
And I would get, I'd even feel
like a little pick me up.

1398
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,880
Like I feel like my almost like
my legs are like almost like a

1399
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,520
little like pick up and didn't
magically change my performance,

1400
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,560
you know, 100%.
But it takes time.

1401
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,680
Yeah, but it definitely, Yeah,
overtime for sure, for sure, for

1402
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,920
sure.
And even saying the like, what

1403
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,880
did you say the only?
The only thing stopping me is

1404
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:22,400
me.
Right.

1405
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,240
So even that has a little
negative connotation.

1406
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,280
So if you made that more
positive, like, listen, you,

1407
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,040
you've done this before in your
life, you've overcome other

1408
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,560
situations, like think about
something that you've overcome,

1409
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,400
then you go, you can do this.
I did that just now, actually

1410
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,840
with my I had a fall on panic
attack before my son was born.

1411
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,960
I wasn't ready to be a dad.
Yeah.

1412
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,720
I don't know what I don't know.
I'm ready.

1413
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:47,920
I don't know what it means to
you already.

1414
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:48,920
I don't know.
Oh, my God.

1415
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,080
And like, I'm afraid, you know,
the doctor goes, OK, it's time.

1416
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,080
I'm like, I'm not ready to like,
we're not asking you like.

1417
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,680
And then this time I was about
to, you know, I felt that a

1418
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,280
similar sensation.
And I said to myself, what are

1419
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,520
you nervous?
You're not going to be ready.

1420
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,040
But you've already done this
with a kid.

1421
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,680
Like I'm not going to.
I know.

1422
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,080
OK.
So like, think about what?

1423
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,840
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous about the fact that

1424
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,360
it's going to be uncomfortable
with my wife is.

1425
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,320
I'm nervous because I don't want
to look anywhere near that while

1426
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,040
it's happening.
I'm nervous because, you know,

1427
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,920
I'm not going to sleep for the
first couple of months.

1428
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,560
You did that already.
What are you so nervous about?

1429
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,120
You did that already.
You know, I actually had to

1430
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,680
write that down to myself.
And when it came time, it was

1431
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,760
the calmest I've ever It was
such a calm birth.

1432
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,400
It was such a calm experience.
Because you could have gone down

1433
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,400
the path of.
Being I felt starting, I really

1434
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,240
felt the starting and my wife
and I talked about it.

1435
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,520
I was like, I'm getting nervous.
I'm getting.

1436
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,640
You created new neural pathways.
That's neuroplasticity.

1437
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,280
That's neuroplasticity.
Yeah, because you could have

1438
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,600
easily just stayed in that panic
mode and up until the birth been

1439
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,080
in panic mode and after the
birth been in panic mode and

1440
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,720
you're not.
So something changed.

1441
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,680
Yeah.
So you took a you took a

1442
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,600
thought, you took a process in
your body that says I'm not

1443
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,320
going to be ready.
I, you know, whatever negativity

1444
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,000
you had and you made it
something different, that's a

1445
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,320
different part of your brain
when you take that.

1446
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,120
Right thought.
I mean unexplored territories.

1447
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,840
It's positive.
It's part of.

1448
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,880
Your brain that's you've
accessed a different part of

1449
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,200
your brain.
Now you have to nourish that

1450
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,080
path, right?
Because that path is new.

1451
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,240
So it's not just enough to have
it, I have to make sure that I'm

1452
01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:25,840
tending.
To now you have to nourish it.

1453
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,760
Yeah.
And you have to make it hard

1454
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,399
wired, Right.
Right.

1455
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:31,720
Because it's still fresh, right?
Like a path.

1456
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,160
If you walk through grass and
it's like the first time you

1457
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,319
walk, you may not look back and
see there's a path.

1458
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:41,680
But if you walk it 100 times,
now all of a sudden, oh, I see

1459
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,479
that path is worn.
So now you work on that thought

1460
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,160
process.
The next time you have a panic

1461
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,560
attack, hopefully you won't.
But if you do, you go.

1462
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,520
No, I've been here.
I know what this is.

1463
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,840
I know what to do.
I've got this.

1464
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,359
I don't need to go here.
I've got this.

1465
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,479
I know exactly what this is.
And actually you can ask

1466
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,319
yourself, like, you know, did it
serve me?

1467
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:08,279
That's a great question too.
Did it serve me?

1468
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,439
Right, because a lot of times
your body, the reason you went

1469
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,080
into that panic mode is because
you had an experience it usually

1470
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,200
you know, something brought you
to that, you think you've had it

1471
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,600
before.
So you have to think, did that,

1472
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,160
Did it serve me to have that?
And usually it's did it.

1473
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,200
Yeah.
Did it help you?

1474
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,800
No, right?
Never.

1475
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:33,399
Never.
Well, actually the only time

1476
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:35,960
that I think it might have is
when it comes to being able to

1477
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,399
relate to other people.
Having a panic attack.

1478
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,800
Meaning to be able to say, I
know that you've been like, I

1479
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,760
know what you're going through
empathy, empathy.

1480
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,800
It helps my it helps enormously
with empathy.

1481
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:45,640
Yeah.
Well, that's good.

1482
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,439
That's I, I, you know, I
understand where you're going

1483
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,479
through right?
And I, I also, you know, I too

1484
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,000
have had these concerns, these
fears, these insecurities and

1485
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,320
I'm, I, I've been where, you
know, I have stood in the same

1486
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,160
pair of shoes already.
You know, you're going to be

1487
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,760
fine and like, or, or, you know,
or whatever.

1488
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,160
I know it doesn't feel like it,
but you're going to, you're not

1489
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,000
going to not figure it out, you
know, so.

1490
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,000
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I actually, I, I so

1491
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,480
relate to that because so many
times things happen in my life

1492
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:15,560
and I'm like, wait a second, I
didn't sign up for this.

1493
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,120
Why isn't that this, this
doesn't really fit.

1494
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,440
And then I'll have a patient
come in.

1495
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,760
Oh, no way.
Yeah, or it may not be right

1496
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,680
away.
Yeah, maybe a while later and I

1497
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:32,080
go, oh, I know what you're going
through and I can, I can help

1498
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,800
you move through this.
So there's always value if you

1499
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,440
can see the value in it, it
changes your perspective.

1500
01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:41,040
And once you change your
perspective, you create a new

1501
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,560
neural pathway that's part of
neural.

1502
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,280
So you're.
So you're working actively on

1503
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,720
your neuroplasticity now or
you're you're OK?

1504
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,280
Gotcha.
So what is the reason what

1505
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,720
you're working?
On so right now I'm I'm doing

1506
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:58,400
this experiment with normally I
used to myself talk was I OK OK

1507
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,680
like I am what whatever I'm
capable, I am powerful whatever

1508
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,360
that's a lot of the self talk
and I realized there's been some

1509
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:11,480
studies that show that the more
powerful way to do it is like

1510
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:15,000
coaching yourself as if.
You as opposed to I.

1511
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,360
You interesting as a powerful
game changer when it comes to

1512
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,280
neuroplasticity is kind of
coaching yourself.

1513
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,840
So I, I now I put myself in it
because a lot of times, even

1514
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,120
when I'm talking to sometimes
you know, you have friends,

1515
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,320
you're going through something
and they can't hear what you're

1516
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:33,960
saying.
Even when I'm going through

1517
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,320
something, sometimes you just
can't hear.

1518
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,000
So I say, what would you say to
a friend, your bestie, if your

1519
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,920
bestie was going through this?
What would you tell them?

1520
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,000
Now do that to yourself.
It's the hardest thing to do.

1521
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,000
It's really hard.
I had to do that for a breakup

1522
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,360
one time when I was in college.
More than one, believe me, more

1523
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,760
than once.
But I've been in college with a

1524
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,160
really long relationship with 2
1/2, two years, two years plus

1525
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,200
my entire college experience
while I was there because I

1526
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,880
transferred it.
And I was in this relationship.

1527
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,960
I remember thinking to myself,
like, if my friend came up to me

1528
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,000
and told me this whole story and
asked me what I would do, what

1529
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:05,680
would you do?
Yeah.

1530
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:10,400
And I was like, I don't want to,
I don't want, I don't want to

1531
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,840
tell them that, you know, but it
comes to you, you know.

1532
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,760
Then how would you coach them?
How would you coach them out of

1533
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,520
it, right?
Like you really have to set

1534
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,320
yourself aside.
Like you're going through a

1535
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,000
breakup and you'd say, hey,
dude, you got this.

1536
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,000
Like there's going to be other
women.

1537
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,200
You're going to be fine like.
That studies observed that the I

1538
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,520
versus you because I, I, I, I
did notice that I, I refer to

1539
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,160
myself as you.
That's.

1540
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,400
Good.
Yeah, but I don't know why.

1541
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,040
It just kind of felt better.
Maybe you watched a Seinfeld

1542
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:38,720
episode?
Probably.

1543
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,240
I love, I love Seinfeld.
Timmy.

1544
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,240
Here's a Timmy, right?
Timmy fell.

1545
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,080
Timmy's in vain.
Yeah.

1546
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,480
Don't do this in public.
This is all about your head.

1547
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,040
Everyone is going to do this
vodka inside your head, not in

1548
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,760
pelvic.
You do not refer to yourself in

1549
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,080
3rd.
First, yes, correct.

1550
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,840
Correct.
Unless you're in Seinfeld and

1551
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,240
then you're OK, then yeah.
That's there's a camera on here

1552
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,920
Yeah, hilarious.
But yeah, they show.

1553
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,560
So I'm experimenting with that
because a lot of teachers in the

1554
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:14,000
self help world are, are
focusing on the eye and you

1555
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,280
know, I'm so I'm experimenting
with that.

1556
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:20,560
And I know with neuroplasticity,
it's also in when you do

1557
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:24,400
exercise, when you have so
movement allows more blood flow

1558
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,000
to to the brain anyway.
So you know, before you want to

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study or before you give a talk
or something where you need full

1560
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,720
blown brain capacity, it's good
to do some exercise because it

1561
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,040
gets the blood flowing to the
brain.

1562
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,200
Those 60,000 miles get active,
right?

1563
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:43,800
But if you pair it with
exercise, so you change, you

1564
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,600
have to change the way you
think, which is not easy, but

1565
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,200
it's practice like anything
else.

1566
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,520
And now we're going to talk in
third person and we're going to

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01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,480
coach ourselves.
You know, we're going to say you

1568
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:57,080
can, you got this girl, you got
this, you've done this.

1569
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,200
So it's important.
To do this, why?

1570
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,480
But it's it's extra, extra
reinforcement if you're doing it

1571
01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:02,960
while you're exercising or while
you're moving.

1572
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,080
I'm taking two studies in
neuroplasticity where, you know,

1573
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,800
they say when you exercise, if
you crossover like you, if

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01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,080
you're doing that, you're
thinking at the same time.

1575
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,320
And what that does is it creates
a lot of neuronal response in

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01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:18,400
your brain.
So it's good.

1577
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,640
I teach my patients with
dementia or Alzheimer's, like

1578
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,760
when they're sorry or when they
feel you have memory loss.

1579
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,400
One of the exercises that I tell
them to do is crossover when

1580
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,080
while you're exercising across
your body, like across the

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01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,880
midline.
Interesting.

1582
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,360
Why are you doing any kind of
exercise?

1583
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,680
Well, just at least some of your
exercise should incorporate

1584
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,160
cross interesting.
Why that if you're because it

1585
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,640
it, it enhances brain activity.
So now you've added a different

1586
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:48,600
element.
Oh, interesting.

1587
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,560
So if you're just doing up and
down, it doesn't have as much

1588
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,640
brain activity as now if you're
going across Oh, it's so

1589
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,640
interesting.
You add a conversation.

1590
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,200
So if you're out with your
girlfriends or your guy friends

1591
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,320
and you're walking and you're
talking and you're thinking

1592
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,480
that's that's adding more brain
activity.

1593
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,040
Yeah.
So I'm combining all of these on

1594
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,000
my own thinking.
Well, I don't think there's a

1595
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,600
study.
I'm thinking it up on my.

1596
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,960
I love it, I love it.
I'm going to exercise and I'm

1597
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,400
going to crossover.
I'm going to make sure I do

1598
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,280
cross the midline on my body and
I'm going to do this type of

1599
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,480
thinking.
I'm going to coach myself, yeah,

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,720
and I'll let you know what
happened.

1601
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,800
I want to know.
I want to know, You know, Steve

1602
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,920
Jobs used to do all his business
meetings on walks.

1603
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,240
He wouldn't do them in office
great idea.

1604
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,640
You know you know your most
intense conversation, big

1605
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,240
corporate merger or whatever it
is love that go for a walk.

1606
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,720
That's what he would say every
single time.

1607
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,560
Let's go for a walk and they
take a 45 minute hour long walk

1608
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,360
while they were.
I love it.

1609
01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:43,920
Yeah.
I think fun of me at work

1610
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,280
because I'm always ex moving.
Yeah, I wouldn't say exercising,

1611
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,400
but I always have a stand up
desk.

1612
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,160
I have a bouncing ball.
Amazing desk.

1613
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,240
And yeah, it looks weird.
I mean, people make fun of God.

1614
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,920
It shows life, it shows
enthusiasm, it shows life.

1615
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,280
It shows.
It shows that you're vital.

1616
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,680
It keeps vitality.
It's better than sitting at a

1617
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,360
desk all day, you know what I
mean?

1618
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,680
If I'm going to have to stare at
a computer, I want to be moving

1619
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,360
at the same time.
I want I want something

1620
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,600
productive to come physically
health.

1621
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,080
Wise, Yeah, yeah, definitely I
have to run this.

1622
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,400
I'm so sad that I have to run
too because I feel like we

1623
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,160
didn't.
I feel like we're just, I feel

1624
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:22,440
like we're 5 minutes in.
So I hope we'll do Part 2.

1625
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,240
You can do it soon or hopefully
in many parts, as you know, as

1626
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,000
the podcast keeps on going and
as you keep on learning and

1627
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,120
growing.
But this is so much fun.

1628
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:37,200
We barely, you barely skim the,
you know, we barely skim the

1629
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,520
big, the the bucket.
Yeah, exactly.

1630
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,720
So I hope we can do another,
another podcast soon.

1631
01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:44,160
But this is so much fun.
Thank you so much for taking the

1632
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:44,480
time.
Thank.

1633
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:46,320
You so much.
I'll talk to you.

1634
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,200
Thank you so much.