Sept. 2, 2025
Health Series 6: Beth Mielbrecht / Health Detective, Energy Medicine
Beth Mielbrecht is a mechanical engineer, Reiki Master-Teacher, homeopath, and bioenergetic testing practitioner.
https://yourhealthwithbeth.com
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Welcome to another episode of
Come Together.
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And we're live.
We're back with another episode.
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Beth Milbrax, welcome.
So happy to have you here.
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How are you?
Delighted to be here.
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Thanks Efraim.
I'm so happy to have you on.
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I came across your profile on
Pod Match and, and I was
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fascinated by the, the
transition from your engineering
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background to your health, I
guess your health focus now and
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your energy and health focus
now.
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And So what I really, and I
guess the truth is that 50
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minutes feels like it's perfect
for kind of a narrative and a
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story.
So I guess we, you know, could
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you want to start by telling me
a little bit about your
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background and where you know
where you're from and you know
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how you know how this happened?
Oh, sure, sure.
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So great.
Yeah, you're right.
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I am a mechanical engineer.
I'm an engineer, and engineers
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like to solve problems.
And that is just a
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characteristic of people who are
really practical, grounded, see
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a problem, want to create a
solution, like to build things.
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So your engineers are the ones
that build your cars and they
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build your bridges and your
buildings, and then all the
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boring stuff like make sure
there's heating and cooling and
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all of all of that practical
stuff.
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And I love doing that.
And I went to school, studied
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engineering.
I am also a licensed
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professional engineer in the
state of New York.
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And but I've always been
fascinated by health.
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I've been a student of health
for decades, and I decided to
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switch to focus on health and
being a health detective when I
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noticed that my friends and
family were very accepting of
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their health limitations.
I would hear things like, I have
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a migraine again this week.
It happens every week.
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I don't know why that is.
I guess that's just life or have
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an ache and pain in my hips and
I'll just have to wait till I
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get a hip replacement someday.
There's nothing that can be done
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right?
And I was pulling my hair out
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because yes, you can know why
you're getting migraines Yes,
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you don't have to live like
that.
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Yes, you can heal the the
cartilage in your joints so that
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you can move without pain.
You don't have to accept that.
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And that's when I started on a
journey to figure out what is an
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easy solution, What is the best
way to find out why?
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Why people are hurting?
And they don't need to just
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accept that that's the way life
is going to be.
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Yeah, beautiful.
So you take that same kind of
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mentality that made you a that
made you an engineer and the
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same kind of train of thought.
And you applied it to the people
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that you care about around you
and said, hey, you know, if
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there's a way that I could solve
problems in one way, then
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there's got to be another.
You know, you could just take
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the same school of thought and
apply it to to something else.
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Exactly it's the same process
and pattern recognition will get
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you so far.
You know you you know how to
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solve things based on you've
seen the situation before.
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Let's try the same thing that
works really well with
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emergencies when you have an
acute injury or there's been an
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accident of some kind.
People know how to assess, how
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to treat what's the best thing.
Yes, that is super important.
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But if something's been
lingering for a long time and
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that was basic patterns of
health techniques haven't helped
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you, you might want to look a
little closer.
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And so that's when that's when
people come to me, when the
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things they've tried don't work
anymore.
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And so, yeah, as my background
is about digging in, do I see?
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Yes, people come to me as last
resort, which is they've tried a
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bunch of things and nothing's
working.
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They don't know why and they're
tired with the traditional
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answers that they're getting.
They're tired of going to
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different specialists.
They've got one for everybody
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part and it's not making sense
and they don't feel good.
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Yeah, I just did a an episode
the other day with a pediatric
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obesity surgeon, which was
really interesting and he's a
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very, very sweet guy.
But one of the things that we
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were talking about or one of the
things that he said, and and I
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guess he was specifically
referring to obesity, He was
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saying that, you know, there's
obviously many other factors
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other than when people today
feel like it's rah rah
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lifestyle.
And he says it's, it's a little
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bit more nuanced or a lot more
nuanced than that.
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But it felt that when he was
essentially kind of giving into
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the fact and maybe he's right
as, you know, maybe he's maybe
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he's right to do this.
Maybe he's just observing human
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nature is like, people aren't
going to just change their
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lifestyles forever, you know,
And like that kind of feels like
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a little bit of a sad, a sad or
morose kind of perspective to,
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you know, conclusion to come to,
which is that at the end of the
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day, it's so overwhelming and
it's so exhausting and requires
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so much effort to just change
your lifestyle that even people
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that manage to do it for a
little bit, you know, you can't
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expect them to do it forever.
So like, what are you going to
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do?
And I'm not, I wasn't really
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sure what I thought of that
about that.
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You know, I think that again,
you know, part of the value of
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the show is to allow people to
express opinions, you know, and,
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and I think that I'm sure that
what he's saying is grounded in
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20-30 years of experience and,
you know, with, with, with
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obesity, with people that suffer
from obesity.
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So I'm sure he has more
information than I do, but it
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just kind of felt like a little
bit more of glass half empty or,
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you know, like, you know, that
kind of perspective.
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Do you find that people are
willing to really kind of change
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their their their outlook once
they cut, once they start seeing
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positive results?
Absolutely, yes they do.
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Because yes, there is culture.
There is a a whole lot of
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influences that want to keep you
on the same path that you're on.
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And I think that if it becomes
important enough to you, you'll
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make that change.
For example, if you're sensitive
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to coffee, even though everyone
drinks coffee and it's such a
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part of culture, if you realize
how it makes you feel and how it
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affects your sleep, that might
just be for you as somebody else
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might be fine with it.
But if that's you, you'll easily
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in one day say I'm done.
Could be.
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It could be alcohol.
It's so socially acceptable to
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drink alcohol.
Everyone's wearing these
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wearables.
They've got rings, watches, all
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kinds of gadgets.
Track your sleep.
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You know what's happening,
you'll know.
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Is sleep more important?
Maybe.
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Sometimes it's more important to
be social and go out and drink
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with my friends, and other times
it's not.
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But you need to know and make
that decision.
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I think that by time people
start working with me, they know
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that they're responsible for
their lives.
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Things don't just happen to
them.
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They're responsible and then
they can decide if they want to
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make changes.
And if that's with what this
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doctor was saying about their
lifestyle, about their food
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choices, sure it is.
It could be seen as harder to
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prepare food at home, but it's
so much more enjoyable.
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There's so many more positive
things there's.
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So I think that he might be
looking at a large swath of the
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population who is in crisis.
And so he has that perspective.
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But I say people need to they go
for it.
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It it's totally worth it to make
the changes and change your
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life.
Yeah, yeah, I, I have to agree.
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I think that I think, and it's
interesting because there's
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almost like two types of
rationale when you're talking to
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people is you could talk to a
group of people where you kind
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of make broad, you know,
generalizations.
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And then there's talking to
individual and, you know, and
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giving that kind of, you know,
like the, the famous metaphor of
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the tree in the forest.
You know, you can't look at the
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tree and pay attention to the
whole forest at the same time.
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And you can't pay look at the
whole forest and notice too much
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about 1 particular tree at one
time either, you know.
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And so life is about kind of
shifting your, your perspective.
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Which one are you looking at?
Are you looking at the broad
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spectrum or like the zoomed in
individuals?
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And I think that, you know, like
what you just said, he's talking
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about the crisis when it comes
to a broad population of people,
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you know, but when you're
dealing with individuals, I
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mean, I have to believe that you
say you can make that change.
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Like you can make that change as
you, you know, as a person.
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I found that.
I found that yesterday.
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I, I, I just started teaching
again.
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So, you know, the summer ended
and school's back up again.
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And I walked into class and I
got a, a class full of 9th
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graders, you know, and then, and
they've already gotten the
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notion in their head that
they're the dumb class because
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they're, you know, because
they're ranked as, you know,
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basic or whatever I'm looking at
like you guys are.
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So with it, you guys are going
to do great this year.
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I'm, I'm so excited for you guys
to be able to like, I was like,
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you might not be sitting at your
desk for all 45 minutes of the
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day of the class, but you guys
are going to learn a lot.
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I could tell.
And you could just feel the
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shift in the room where like,
well, you know, where there
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would be individual kids that
really, like, you saw like it,
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it went into their heads that,
Hey, I'm, I am capable of, of
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doing this.
And then the other kids like,
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yeah, OK, what are you talking
about?
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But it was far more, it was far
more positive than negative.
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And I feel like people respond
accordingly.
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If we have that kind of you can
do it mentality, people like,
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yeah, I could, you know.
I love that and it's so
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important.
I'm so glad that you're doing
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that and you're conveying that
message.
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I tell people you can heal.
Your body wants to heal and
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sometimes they think that's
impossible.
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No, my, these bad things keep
happening.
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It's not my fault.
It's I don't, I can't do
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anything about it.
My body's falling apart.
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It's attacking me.
No, it's not.
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It wants to heal and I will hold
that just like you're holding it
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for those 9th graders.
You're holding that baton that
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they can learn, they can excel,
they can and enjoy it while
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they're doing it.
And I hold that for people with
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health that you can heal.
It's awesome.
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You really can.
How'd you so, So what?
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How'd you get started?
You start by reading podcast
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books, your own life, your own
family.
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How'd you get, how'd you get
started in terms of the health
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journey and like how you get so
insane?
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I guess it's always with myself.
So it just started with myself
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as a observing how I grew up and
the food that I ate in my
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prepared in like, you know,
McDonald's was a special treat
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and I would get McDonald's and
like, wow, like I was a teenager
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noticing like, wow, these French
fries are really addictive.
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What is it about that?
Or, you know, back in back in
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the day, iceberg lettuce was a
vegetable and that was
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sufficient, you know, and then
just noticing that and how, how
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I grew up through growing up, I
think I've been every diet I've
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tried everything I love
experimenting on myself.
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So I've been gluten free, I've
been a vegan, I've been
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vegetarian.
I have been, you know, just food
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that I get from the farmers
market, just food that I
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prepare.
I have then gone to just making
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my own bone broth and meat that
I find at from local farmers.
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So everything.
And then I'd see, well, how do I
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feel when I do that?
And I've learned that one dogma
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is not right even for me at all
times in my life, that when I am
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busy raising my child, when I
was pregnant, when I am changing
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into my later years, I have
different nutritional needs.
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And if I don't adapt what I
want.
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So you know, when I go to the
farmers market and I'm like, Oh
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my goodness, I need to buy all
of these apples or a spinach, I
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learned to listen to it.
So it started with me, but then
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it also was with my son.
I have one son, he's 23 now.
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And my whole journey into energy
medicine started with him.
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So it started with I was a new
mom, he was an infant.
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So you have children.
You know what this is like, your
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baby is sleeping and you're
going to put your baby down in
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the crib to keep sleeping and
don't want the baby to wake up.
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So I know this is audio only,
but I have my hands cupped.
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So I put his little body down
and then I walk, I back out of
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the of his nursery and now my
hands are up and I'm backing
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away.
Like, did I do it?
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Did I do it?
Is he still sleeping?
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I put him down, he's still
sleeping and I'm backing away.
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And so my hands are raised up
like this and I'm halfway down
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the hallway and I notice that it
feels like there's a steel cable
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in between the palms of my hands
and his little body, like we're
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connected.
What is that feeling?
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I had never felt that before.
I had never felt a feeling of
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energy in my hands before.
And as life would have it, then
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all of these things came into my
world without me even asking for
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it.
I took Reiki classes.
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I learned about energy.
This is it's just crazy how it
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all happens.
But basically my little boy was
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telling me, hey mom, you need to
up level to take care of me.
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I need you to understand energy.
I need you to understand me
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better because this is what I
need to succeed and so.
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When did he tell you this?
That's a pretty mature thing to
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say.
He didn't.
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I think that's what he was.
He didn't.
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I mean, he's yeah, that's what I
think he sensed.
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No, he did not have words.
He's a boy.
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No, he did not have words.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
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That's what I think he was
encouraging me to do so that
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whenever as he grew up and
through his life, it was always
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hands on.
And even though I took classes
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and eventually I became a Reiki
master teacher and then I took
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other energy type work and got
other certifications, It was
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always about could I sense where
he wasn't balanced And he was
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very, very receptive to that.
That was the primary method of
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helping him.
And then also teaching him how
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did he feel in his body after he
ate lots of bread, he had a
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stomach ache and encouraging
him, OK, how does that feel?
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And developing language around
that.
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And eventually he grew out of
that.
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Of course, he's a teenager.
He ate tons of pizza.
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And then what happens, it
becomes a little, it changes how
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he reacts to different things.
So growing up and going through
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that journey with him on how to
teach somebody else how to pay
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attention to their body, because
I realized that I'm so in tune
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with my own body and what feels
right to me.
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It's a little unusual.
And I, I worked with him and he
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and he was naturally born that
way.
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So that's the how I got into
health.
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And then I began to notice that
some people would eat certain
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foods and then the next day say,
oh, I don't feel well, but not
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realize that it had any
connection to the strange
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combination of foods they ate
the day before.
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They had no realization, yes.
And I, I thought how strange,
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like I would put one bite of
food that didn't agree with me
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in my mouth and I would notice
it right away.
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So I realized that OK, people
have different delays and
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realizations within their body.
So that made me a natural for
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exploring health.
Does your does your and how, how
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receptive was your son to the to
all, to all these ideas as he
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was growing up?
He's 23 now, right?
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So as a teenager, as a young
adult, or, you know, you know,
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what's, what was his, was he
like, OK, mom kind of thing?
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Because my mom, when I was in
high school, my sister had
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psoriasis and she changed her
diet and it totally, totally
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helped.
And I used to have terribly dry
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skin and dandruff.
And I always blamed it, see, on
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the seasons.
I always blamed it like, OK,
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well, it's cold in New York.
And I mean, I, we're, you know,
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I mentioned I went to College in
Binghamton and I'm from
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Rockland.
So, you know, we got cold
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winters and and I would always
and then with the change of
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seasons that always, you know,
I'd also get like, you know, I
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get aggravated skin and I refuse
to.
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And my mom would be like, you
have to change your diet.
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The amount you're drinking is
not good.
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The amount of pizza you're
eating is not good.
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The amount of garbage that you
put and and they eat my Mama.
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Come on.
It's not who are you talking
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about?
It's not my food that I have
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dandruff.
OK, don't be ridiculous.
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And I mean, you know, Fast
forward a couple of years later
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and it took me till I was like
doing my own work and figuring
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it out my own way.
I'm like full circle.
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I'm like, I call my mom like, Oh
my God, you're right.
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You were right the whole time.
I'm so sorry.
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You're right, you're right,
you're right, you're right.
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You just wasted on the young.
I feel like an idiot.
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I'm sorry.
And now what do I do about
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making sure my kids don't do
this?
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Because I was like, I don't want
them to go another 5-10 years
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like I did and suffer like that,
you know?
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So how is your how does your son
feel about about all this?
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It's it's the exact same story,
exact same story.
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You know all the sugar.
So why you know, I would talk to
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him.
Well, how do you feel?
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Did you notice your skin is
breaking out?
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What are you eating?
He, he, he worked at, you know,
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also in New York, there's
Wegmans everywhere.
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He worked at Wegmans and, and,
and, and there's a bulk candy
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aisle.
Gosh, you can, when he had his
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own money, you know, you could
go buy as much candy as you want
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or after Halloween, half price
Halloween candy.
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Like, yes, he had to explore
that all himself, but because he
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had grown up with trying, like
knowing how things felt in his
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body, he was able to notice
like, wow, I'm not going to do
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that again.
And yeah, it did take.
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He did go through all those
years.
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Peer pressure is intense.
And you want enormous and you
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want to be just like everyone
else.
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And so I get with like you
started at the beginning with
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the obesity Dr. For for young
people, it is intense, but you
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know, it's a little bit more
normalized now to be speaking
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out and that's what I hope to
share with.
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Yeah, yeah.
And and he so he went through
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exactly the same thing as you.
That's great.
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It's good to know that it's a,
it's a young man's journey, but
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it also makes me a little
nervous about my son.
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But I like you said, though, and
I really, I do believe this.
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Like for example, my wife found
it.
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My wife started, she loves this
now she started milling her own
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flour and then using it as the
base for, you know, bread or
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cookies or waffles or pizza or
whatever it is.
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And like, you know, from and,
and she's like, I can't even
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tell you how much nutrition is
in this flour that I'm milling
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by myself that, you know, that
we're deprived of in
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commercially, in commercial, you
know, bread and pizza and stuff
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like that.
And, you know, the preservatives
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apparently that they put into
that, that allows the bread to
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stay fresh for so long actually
eats away at the potential
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nutrients that we would be
getting otherwise.
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So she's like, the food's not
going to be fresh for a month
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like it is in the supermarket,
but we're just making for the
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house anyway.
So, you know, we'll have it for
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dinner one night and then we'll,
you know, Saturday night's pizza
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night.
Well, we'll make our own pizza
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with our own, you know, So I'm
kind of hoping that that by
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introducing this at an early
age, that he that his body
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consciously or unconsciously
will say, hey, you know, sure.
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This is this is not something
that you should be, you know,
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eating right now or like, OK,
like this is this is this is
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acceptable.
This is pretty good.
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And I and I hope that it kind of
be able, is able to tell him
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that in the future.
What other aspects of energy,
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because people hear energy
healing and they kind of take a
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step back.
There's a very strong
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disassociation, like when I tell
my high schoolers that we're
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going to do poetry and they're
like poetry.
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And I'm like, you don't even
know what poetry is.
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I was like, you know that
feeling.
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And then I described to him
yesterday, it was so funny.
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I was like, imagine the feeling.
You walk into a pizza shop and
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the smell of that brick oven
just smacks you in the face.
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And then you and then you smell
the flower and you feel the
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flower in the air that's
underneath the dough.
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And they're like, yeah, I'm
like, you know, they're like,
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oh, yeah, that's awesome.
Like that's poetry.
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I was like, whatever.
I just whatever I just said to
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you, that's poetry.
It's not a bad thing.
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It's going to be OK.
You're going to be fine with it.
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So can you, can you elaborate a
little bit on the energy healing
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and what and what the
foundations are and what the
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ideas are?
Absolutely.
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Yeah, Energy healing is popular
in some circles but really
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distrusted in others.
I don't use it a lot.
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I don't use the phrase energy
healing because of that reason.
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It's, you know, it's people who
do yoga and lead retreats in
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Bali and Mexico that and that's
true.
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Energy healing does happen in
that way.
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I like energy medicine.
To me, energy medicine has many
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proven science based
methodologies.
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One of them is homeopathy.
Homeopathy is using diluted
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substances that make a reaction
in your body and that encourages
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increased communication and
healing.
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It's the trigger for your body
that says this is what I need.
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Homeopathy.
There's one.
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Another one is acupuncture.
So some people are not sure that
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we have energy running in our
bodies, but we do.
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And they're they're going
highways called meridians.
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And acupuncture's been around
for so long.
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You put, you stimulate points on
the body and then it unblocks.
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It encourages healing.
So that is also energy medicine,
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Reiki, that's hands on healing.
It can be done at a distance or
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in person.
That's energy medicine as well.
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So energy medicine has these
things, Reiki.
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Or what's the OK?
What's the idea behind it?
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So here, here it is.
Every single person on this
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planet is an energy healer.
All of us, we all you know we
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have intentions.
We can use our hands.
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We put our hands on our kids.
We put our hands on our heads
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when we don't feel well.
We know we rub high 5 you you
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you, you.
You run into a doorway.
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You rub your arm.
You know you you not naturally
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use energy healing.
Reiki is a format that was
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channeled or downloaded by a
Japanese man in the 1930s.
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So it has a Japanese name.
And because he's a Japanese man,
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it came through in his culture
which said let's have a
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procedure, let's have a step by
step process, let's have some
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symbols, and all the symbols are
Japanese characters.
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We don't need any of that.
It's a good framework for people
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who want to learn.
But once you know that, you can
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feel it.
You don't need any structure
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whatsoever.
All energy healing is a format
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to get you comfortable with
trusting your own intuition,
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being able to be clear and use
the energy of the universe, not
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your own.
You know, there's a difference
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between giving of yourself and
giving from the universe.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so, so Reiki is, is hands on
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healing or distance healing.
And there could you could follow
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a format or not.
I don't.
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Once I learned the, the format,
I left it behind.
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I I just say, hey, this is what
we need to do today.
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And so when I was when I was a
Reiki practitioner, it was all
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free form, but it was nice to
have a framework to learn, to
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get started.
Just like when you're going to
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teach your students poetry, you
might have some guidelines or
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some, here's a framework you
could follow to get you started.
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You know, we could follow a
haiku or we could follow, I
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don't know, some other format.
I'm thinking of iambic
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pectameter.
Something like like, hey, there
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is something that is really hard
to do or it's really easy to do,
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00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,600
but you don't have to do any of
those things to talk about pizza
444
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,880
as poetry.
So the same with energy.
445
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:35,160
And that's how I explain Reiki.
So what applications would you
446
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560
use Reiki?
And if someone like if, how
447
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,200
would you determine like which
tool in your toolbox do you do
448
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,200
you use?
Because I feel like you know
449
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,200
when you have so many.
Different options, yeah.
450
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,600
Yeah, please.
So right now I don't see any
451
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:58,280
clients one-on-one for Reiki as
a as a stand alone practice at
452
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,760
all.
That is right now I use Reiki as
453
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,280
part of what I do in my
precision healing method
454
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,640
program.
I use Reiki when I'm used doing
455
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,720
trapped emotion release.
So I have, I try to combine all
456
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,040
of the tools that I have into
one program.
457
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,560
And for there's one aspect that
I do called trapped emotion
458
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,200
release.
And for that I do, I call it
459
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,000
switching into Reiki mode, which
is just switching into
460
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,480
connecting with my guides, my
teachers, my clients, guides and
461
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,680
teachers and asking to release
something that they don't need
462
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,440
any more, something that they
have said, hey, I'm ready to
463
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,080
release this horrible feeling.
I don't want it any more than I
464
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,920
go in and help facilitate that.
And that's one aspect of what I
465
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,600
do in the precision healing
method.
466
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:05,800
That would apply to something
like an emotional pain or trauma
467
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,240
that manifests in your body that
you're trying to alleviate and
468
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,600
get rid of.
That's.
469
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,800
What it would be so in.
Yeah.
470
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,440
So there's two types of
emotional issues that I help my
471
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,000
clients with. 1 is how you're
feeling right now.
472
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:30,560
You've got grief or you're
stressed or there's some you're
473
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,680
just struggling in some way and
there could be all kinds of
474
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,120
reasons what that is.
So that's your day-to-day and
475
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:40,560
you're you're dealing with this
that needs different support
476
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,080
than something that's been
buried from a long time ago.
477
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,320
That is just an underlying
dread.
478
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,760
You know, you experience
something horrible a long time
479
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,240
ago.
You thought you were over it,
480
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,080
but every once in a while like
what is this?
481
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Why does this fear come up to
me?
482
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,440
I like it because I'm an
engineer.
483
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,800
I want the quickest and fastest
solution.
484
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,360
I am not a therapist.
If you think you need to have
485
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,360
therapy about this old issue, go
see a therapist.
486
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,280
That's definitely not my
specialty.
487
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:21,920
So if when I find out that you
don't even have to know what it
488
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,400
is, because through bioenergetic
testing, I will ask is there
489
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,240
something that needs to be
released?
490
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:34,680
Then if something comes up, then
I will release it.
491
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,920
And you may have a memory of it
or maybe you don't.
492
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,280
So there's your current emotions
and then there is old stuck
493
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,360
stuff.
And you know what?
494
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,400
Old stuck emotions tend to
settle in areas of weakness in
495
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:57,960
your body really when like like
things that don't heal, there's
496
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,960
usually some emotions that are
kind of tied up in it.
497
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,680
If it just won't get better
after you try everything you've
498
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440
been to the physical therapist
and like, but my back still
499
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,120
hurts.
Well, because there's an
500
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,120
emotional component to it.
So you can do all the exercises,
501
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,640
do all the physical therapy, but
there's probably, you probably
502
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,280
need to look at the emotions as
well.
503
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,400
That's fascinating.
That's so interesting.
504
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,600
I what's fascinating, just
reflecting for a minute of my
505
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,200
own life, is that I was very I
am, but for a long time I was
506
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,680
very fear driven my whole life.
And that includes fear of
507
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,800
physical confrontation as well.
And I forced myself a couple of
508
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:45,560
months ago to start taking jiu
jitsu and the starting to do jiu
509
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:51,280
jitsu right, which by definition
means I'm getting I'm using all
510
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,240
parts of my body I have never
used in my entire life.
511
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,800
I was I I've gone through the
last couple of months this like
512
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,520
real legitimate period of
working out a lot.
513
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,960
I've been a whole other layer or
dimension has been triggered and
514
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,520
I'm and I'm so curious if it has
to do with this newfound
515
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,080
physical expression.
And I know that and I've been
516
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,920
grappling and working with and
building and making
517
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,640
breakthroughs in really, really
amazing ways, you know, with,
518
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,000
with parts of myself that I've
really never been even even able
519
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,240
to look face to face at.
And, and I'm putting that
520
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,120
together also because my wife
had gone a couple of months back
521
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,160
to what's called the dance
therapy class.
522
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,840
And it was also that same
notion, which is that our body
523
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,760
stores and our body keeps trauma
and fit in different physical
524
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,800
places.
And by day, you know, by actual,
525
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,560
you know, physical emotions set
to set to different music, you
526
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,280
can actually kind of release it
or access it and pinpoint it.
527
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,880
And I really do believe in all
that.
528
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,320
I really think that, I mean, I
don't, I think that anyone
529
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920
that's had these experiences are
these experiences are so
530
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:07,200
profound and so clear and so
tangible that like you can't
531
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,400
ever say that you can't, you
lose a lot of skepticism just
532
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,640
based on your experience, which
is really, really cool.
533
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,240
I'm so glad you're doing that.
The best way to move emotion and
534
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,920
metabolize the emotion is
through movement.
535
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,200
Acknowledge it and then move it
out.
536
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,160
So if you were feeling like,
Hey, this feels weird, but I'm
537
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,160
going through jiu jitsu and you
kept shoving it down, you would
538
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
just be compacting it and
shoving it and keeping it there.
539
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,640
But the fact that you're saying,
hey, I acknowledge this.
540
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,920
You're, you're letting your body
move it out because right, your
541
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,120
issues are in your tissues so
You Can Dance it out.
542
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,120
Some people like all different
ways.
543
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,960
There's so many different ways
to do it.
544
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,160
It's not just one way.
And that is great because now
545
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,000
you are able to stand in a new
place without being burdened by
546
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,800
old stuff.
And so you know, what I find out
547
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,240
is sometimes it's not even your
own stuff.
548
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,600
Sometimes it's inherited,
sometimes it's absorbed from
549
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,400
someone else.
Sometimes the people's emotions
550
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,120
aren't even their own.
They're inherited or observed
551
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,480
from somebody else.
And so it's really good when you
552
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,520
move your body and get those
out.
553
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,560
You don't need to carry other
people's stuff.
554
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,040
I'm actually recording an
episode next week, I hope,
555
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,600
unless it's subject to change,
but with someone that actually a
556
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,520
therapist that works with
intergenerational trauma, which
557
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,520
I'm really fascinated by because
my own family history is my my
558
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,400
boats.
Both my mother's parents are
559
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,160
were survivors of the Holocaust.
And so the type of household
560
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,880
that she grew up in obviously
was going to be pretty different
561
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,680
than, you know, the typical
American household or, you know,
562
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,920
typical, you know, household
that a lot of people are growing
563
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,960
up in, growing up with two
survivors from such a, you know,
564
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,480
tragedy.
And you can see very, very
565
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,040
clearly, like what traits, you
know, and what perspective and
566
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,199
what kind of attitudes are
passed down out of like almost
567
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,560
genetic necessity, out of
biological necessity.
568
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,520
You know, it's really, really
fascinating.
569
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,080
And so it's, it's so cool to
think that certain events could
570
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,080
mean so much that your bot that
your genes say, you know what,
571
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,600
your children are going to need
this and your grandchildren are
572
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,760
going to need this experience.
So we're going to just like pass
573
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,920
it along to them and make sure
that it sticks with them because
574
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,280
that's how important this is.
It's so fascinating.
575
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:53,239
It is and so emotions get passed
down also nutrient deficiencies
576
00:34:53,320 --> 00:35:00,600
get passed down, environmental
toxicities like heavy metals or
577
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,960
pesticide residue, like they get
passed down as well.
578
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,480
And so being able to clean up
your own body and take care of
579
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,400
yourself, doing the best you can
is the best key for health.
580
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Looking at yourself from all
perspectives, I don't think that
581
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:27,160
there is ever an end to trying
to figure out how can I be
582
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,520
healthier when you don't feel
good, when you don't feel good
583
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,680
or something's bothering you,
There's so many avenues to
584
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200
explore.
It's never just one thing.
585
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,960
So whether you work with any any
kind of practitioner, there's
586
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,040
always more and it's best to
have an open mind because we're
587
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,520
learning things all the time.
That's fascinating that you're
588
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,720
going to have a guest on about
intergenerational trauma.
589
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,160
Yeah, I'm really excited about
it.
590
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,640
I'm really excited about it.
And I think that because it's
591
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,880
also, there's also the vice
versa, right?
592
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,280
There are traits that, you know,
if my grandfather, my
593
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,600
grandmother would have been far
more necessary.
594
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,000
And for me, it's not useful to
have.
595
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,560
And so for me, I have to just, I
have to discard that, you know,
596
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,680
even though genetically it's
dispositioned in me.
597
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,120
And then physically, actually
also the pediatric that a doctor
598
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,560
that I spoke to the other day
said, I, he said that there were
599
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,200
studies that the, the amount of
sugar that our bodies are like
600
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,120
kind of used to and our ability
to process it start from the
601
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,760
first, I think in the like from
conception for the first two
602
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,080
years that the baby's alive.
So, you know, nine months in the
603
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,840
womb and then two years.
And then when the baby turns 3,
604
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,400
that's where the point gets set.
But if, you know, even a even
605
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,880
even a mother that's carrying
has to be conscientious as to
606
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,480
what she's consuming because
she's passing that on to her,
607
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,640
that passing on to the kid.
And my wife gave birth just four
608
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,160
or five months ago, thank God.
And you know, thank God
609
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,880
everything was OK.
But it was really it, you know,
610
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,840
we were talking the nurse and
the baby was 77172.
611
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,080
And the nurse said she's been
seeing babies that are 12,
612
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,320
thirteen, 14 lbs at birth.
And I'm like, I've never even
613
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,120
heard like 10 was considered
massive when I, you know, when I
614
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,680
was growing up and with my
family.
615
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,240
And she said that you know that
a lot of this has to do with
616
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,760
genetics getting passed down
from conception.
617
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,800
Yeah, wow, Wow.
Well, congratulations to you and
618
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,320
your new little one.
It's great to have a healthy
619
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,200
baby.
And you know, that brings up
620
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,760
another point of nowadays when I
hear from people who come to me
621
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,280
and they say I got my blood test
back and it says I'm normal
622
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,440
here, but not normal someplace
else.
623
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,960
Wait a minute.
What does normal mean?
624
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,760
Normal means that the lab
company is comparing you to an
625
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,280
average population.
Do you want to be compared to an
626
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,600
average population?
Is that average population
627
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,280
healthy?
It's not comparing it to healthy
628
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,840
people.
It's comparing it to an average
629
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,920
population.
So you know, and, and is that
630
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,640
the best indicator and the best
marker?
631
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,760
That's a whole nother story.
But yeah, averages, you know,
632
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:26,240
you look at it, clothing sizes,
chair sizes, things are things
633
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,560
are changing based on how the
population is evolving.
634
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,320
Is that what you want to do?
Even things like daily
635
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,200
recommended you like average
daily recommended sugar or carbs
636
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,960
or whatever.
I'm sure that the goal post gets
637
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,880
moved around.
I mean, I don't know if I don't
638
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,360
know for certain, but I could
just imagine that as time goes
639
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,000
on that, you know, the things
change.
640
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,760
Last question.
Now you have to go in a couple
641
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,120
of minutes.
Last thing that I wanted to talk
642
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,160
to you about, I think is one of
the more important things or the
643
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,320
more inspiring things is how you
can, how you had the courage to
644
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,200
make such a, you know,
significant change in your life,
645
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,120
career change or profession
change or, you know, after
646
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,160
having a whole career.
Because I know that some things
647
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,200
that most people, a lot of
people I know, at least whether
648
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,120
it's anecdotally with family or
whether it's friends or things I
649
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:18,200
read, is that people feel like
you build to you're 30, maybe
650
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,320
you're 40 and then like you kind
of close the rest of your life.
651
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,360
And I personally disagree, you
know, but it's easy for me to
652
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,240
say as a 30 year old, you know,
can you, can you elaborate a
653
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,880
little bit as to like what that,
what your whole experience was
654
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,640
like for a couple minutes?
Sure, yes.
655
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,920
I hope that I'm a different
person tomorrow than I am today.
656
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,480
I hope that I'm a different and
better person next year than I
657
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,800
am this year.
I'm always looking to grow.
658
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,840
I'm not afraid of making a
change.
659
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,840
I've been successful in
everything I do.
660
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,440
I have no reason to doubt that I
wouldn't be successful in this
661
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,480
new direction.
Listen, there's plenty of work.
662
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,240
People need solutions.
I am.
663
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,840
I have a fearlessness and I have
a vision and I see it so
664
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,760
clearly.
I'm confident in the results
665
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,800
that I've gotten for my clients.
They the results speak for
666
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,160
themselves and they've written
testimonials for me.
667
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,520
Whether or not this is the right
business at the right time,
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whether it's popular, doesn't
matter to me.
669
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I get people reaching out to me
all the time saying do you want
670
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,480
to scale your business and scale
it and grow up to these, you
671
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,560
know, enormous numbers.
And I write back and I say, this
672
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,960
is not a scalable business.
This this is me doing something
673
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,200
I'm passionate about one-on-one
with my clients.
674
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No, this is not a franchise.
This is not replacing me with an
675
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AI tool.
This is personal health coaching
676
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and bioenergetic testing.
So I feel so strongly about it
677
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,160
and that vision is what carries
me through.
678
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,800
And there's plenty of times
where it's, it can be hard.
679
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,280
It can be hard explaining
something that's new to people
680
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who are based in the traditional
mindset.
681
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So I always look for the success
I've seen with myself and my
682
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family and my clients and I stay
grounded.
683
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I'm not looking for success as
determined by LinkedIn or the
684
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Internet.
I'm looking for it as defined by
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what lights me up.
And have I made health
686
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transformations possible for
people who didn't think that
687
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they could have transferred
health transformations, People
688
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who thought that they were stuck
forever and nothing would ever
689
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change, and then they did.
Yeah.
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That's that's what I thrive on.
So my vision helps keep me
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grounded.
And yes, if you want a highly
692
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scalable business where you can
sell to a venture capitalist,
693
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this is not the right business.
But if you want to make a
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difference in people's lives, it
is.
695
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Yeah.
So how so?
696
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Well, that, yeah.
So what advice do you think
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you'd give someone that feels
like, you know what, like for
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example, my mom, right, my mom,
just my youngest, my youngest
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brother's 14.
He's just starting high school,
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which means the house is going
to be empty for the first time
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in 30 years for her.
I she has six kids and you know,
702
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she's used to being Mama bear
and, you know, and, and she has
703
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grandkids that live nearby, but
for the first time, things going
704
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to be quiet, you know, like
she's like, well, what do I do?
705
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At this point in my life?
I'm 55.
706
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I'm so, you know, whatever it is
and I, I got AI got a lot of
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life left.
What do I but you know, I spent
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the last 30 years, you know
what?
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How do I, how do I do this?
What do you think?
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Yeah, everyday say, what brings
me joy?
711
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,640
What do I want to learn?
What?
712
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How can I take care of myself
when I couldn't have taken care
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of myself before?
Is it walking?
714
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Is it weightlifting?
What do I want to learn?
715
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So the first step is she's not
going to even know what she
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enjoys because her enjoyment is
from giving to everyone else.
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So it's describing and finding
what she likes and learning that
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again.
And at this time of her life, I
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mean, she is just getting
started.
720
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All of that emotional and mental
energy that she's given to you
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and your siblings, she now has
to create something for herself.
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Maybe her health is great and
she doesn't even need to focus
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on that.
Maybe there'll be some other
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passion.
So the first question is, what
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lights me up?
What brings me joy?
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How can I learn about that and
do that a little more?
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And if there's something in her
health that she's been putting
728
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off, now is the time she can
start taking little baby steps
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towards movement and food and
finding new things that bring
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her joy.
Beautiful, Beth.
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I really appreciate the time.
I'm sorry the, the audio got a
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little choppy over there.
I'm sorry about the technical
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issues, but this was really so
much fun.
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Maybe we'll do Part 2 a couple
of months down the line.
735
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This is such a, this is so much
fun.
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I feel like I want to, I want
to, we could talk a lot more and
737
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I really appreciate the time.
I think that what you're doing
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is wonderful and I think that
you should keep it up and you
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should have a lot of success.
And this is really so nice
740
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getting to talk to you a little
bit.
741
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Thank you so much Efraim, have a
great day.
742
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You too.
Take care.
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I'll be in touch.
Bye bye.
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Bye bye.
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Welcome to another episode of
Come Together.
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And we're live.
We're back with another episode.
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Beth Milbrax, welcome.
So happy to have you here.
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How are you?
Delighted to be here.
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Thanks Efraim.
I'm so happy to have you on.
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I came across your profile on
Pod Match and, and I was
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fascinated by the, the
transition from your engineering
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background to your health, I
guess your health focus now and
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your energy and health focus
now.
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And So what I really, and I
guess the truth is that 50
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minutes feels like it's perfect
for kind of a narrative and a
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story.
So I guess we, you know, could
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you want to start by telling me
a little bit about your
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background and where you know
where you're from and you know
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how you know how this happened?
Oh, sure, sure.
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So great.
Yeah, you're right.
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I am a mechanical engineer.
I'm an engineer, and engineers
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like to solve problems.
And that is just a
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characteristic of people who are
really practical, grounded, see
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a problem, want to create a
solution, like to build things.
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So your engineers are the ones
that build your cars and they
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build your bridges and your
buildings, and then all the
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boring stuff like make sure
there's heating and cooling and
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all of all of that practical
stuff.
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And I love doing that.
And I went to school, studied
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engineering.
I am also a licensed
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professional engineer in the
state of New York.
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And but I've always been
fascinated by health.
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I've been a student of health
for decades, and I decided to
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switch to focus on health and
being a health detective when I
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noticed that my friends and
family were very accepting of
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their health limitations.
I would hear things like, I have
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a migraine again this week.
It happens every week.
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I don't know why that is.
I guess that's just life or have
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an ache and pain in my hips and
I'll just have to wait till I
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get a hip replacement someday.
There's nothing that can be done
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right?
And I was pulling my hair out
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because yes, you can know why
you're getting migraines Yes,
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you don't have to live like
that.
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Yes, you can heal the the
cartilage in your joints so that
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you can move without pain.
You don't have to accept that.
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And that's when I started on a
journey to figure out what is an
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easy solution, What is the best
way to find out why?
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Why people are hurting?
And they don't need to just
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accept that that's the way life
is going to be.
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Yeah, beautiful.
So you take that same kind of
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mentality that made you a that
made you an engineer and the
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same kind of train of thought.
And you applied it to the people
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that you care about around you
and said, hey, you know, if
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there's a way that I could solve
problems in one way, then
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there's got to be another.
You know, you could just take
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the same school of thought and
apply it to to something else.
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Exactly it's the same process
and pattern recognition will get
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you so far.
You know you you know how to
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solve things based on you've
seen the situation before.
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Let's try the same thing that
works really well with
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emergencies when you have an
acute injury or there's been an
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accident of some kind.
People know how to assess, how
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to treat what's the best thing.
Yes, that is super important.
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But if something's been
lingering for a long time and
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that was basic patterns of
health techniques haven't helped
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you, you might want to look a
little closer.
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And so that's when that's when
people come to me, when the
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things they've tried don't work
anymore.
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And so, yeah, as my background
is about digging in, do I see?
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Yes, people come to me as last
resort, which is they've tried a
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bunch of things and nothing's
working.
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They don't know why and they're
tired with the traditional
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answers that they're getting.
They're tired of going to
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different specialists.
They've got one for everybody
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part and it's not making sense
and they don't feel good.
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Yeah, I just did a an episode
the other day with a pediatric
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obesity surgeon, which was
really interesting and he's a
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very, very sweet guy.
But one of the things that we
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were talking about or one of the
things that he said, and and I
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guess he was specifically
referring to obesity, He was
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saying that, you know, there's
obviously many other factors
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other than when people today
feel like it's rah rah
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lifestyle.
And he says it's, it's a little
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bit more nuanced or a lot more
nuanced than that.
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But it felt that when he was
essentially kind of giving into
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the fact and maybe he's right
as, you know, maybe he's maybe
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he's right to do this.
Maybe he's just observing human
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nature is like, people aren't
going to just change their
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lifestyles forever, you know,
And like that kind of feels like
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a little bit of a sad, a sad or
morose kind of perspective to,
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you know, conclusion to come to,
which is that at the end of the
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day, it's so overwhelming and
it's so exhausting and requires
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so much effort to just change
your lifestyle that even people
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that manage to do it for a
little bit, you know, you can't
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expect them to do it forever.
So like, what are you going to
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do?
And I'm not, I wasn't really
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sure what I thought of that
about that.
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You know, I think that again,
you know, part of the value of
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the show is to allow people to
express opinions, you know, and,
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and I think that I'm sure that
what he's saying is grounded in
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20-30 years of experience and,
you know, with, with, with
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obesity, with people that suffer
from obesity.
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So I'm sure he has more
information than I do, but it
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just kind of felt like a little
bit more of glass half empty or,
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you know, like, you know, that
kind of perspective.
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Do you find that people are
willing to really kind of change
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their their their outlook once
they cut, once they start seeing
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positive results?
Absolutely, yes they do.
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Because yes, there is culture.
There is a a whole lot of
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influences that want to keep you
on the same path that you're on.
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And I think that if it becomes
important enough to you, you'll
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make that change.
For example, if you're sensitive
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to coffee, even though everyone
drinks coffee and it's such a
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part of culture, if you realize
how it makes you feel and how it
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affects your sleep, that might
just be for you as somebody else
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might be fine with it.
But if that's you, you'll easily
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in one day say I'm done.
Could be.
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It could be alcohol.
It's so socially acceptable to
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drink alcohol.
Everyone's wearing these
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wearables.
They've got rings, watches, all
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kinds of gadgets.
Track your sleep.
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You know what's happening,
you'll know.
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Is sleep more important?
Maybe.
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Sometimes it's more important to
be social and go out and drink
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with my friends, and other times
it's not.
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But you need to know and make
that decision.
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I think that by time people
start working with me, they know
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that they're responsible for
their lives.
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Things don't just happen to
them.
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They're responsible and then
they can decide if they want to
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make changes.
And if that's with what this
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doctor was saying about their
lifestyle, about their food
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choices, sure it is.
It could be seen as harder to
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prepare food at home, but it's
so much more enjoyable.
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There's so many more positive
things there's.
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So I think that he might be
looking at a large swath of the
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population who is in crisis.
And so he has that perspective.
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But I say people need to they go
for it.
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It it's totally worth it to make
the changes and change your
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life.
Yeah, yeah, I, I have to agree.
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I think that I think, and it's
interesting because there's
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almost like two types of
rationale when you're talking to
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people is you could talk to a
group of people where you kind
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of make broad, you know,
generalizations.
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And then there's talking to
individual and, you know, and
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giving that kind of, you know,
like the, the famous metaphor of
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the tree in the forest.
You know, you can't look at the
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tree and pay attention to the
whole forest at the same time.
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And you can't pay look at the
whole forest and notice too much
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about 1 particular tree at one
time either, you know.
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And so life is about kind of
shifting your, your perspective.
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Which one are you looking at?
Are you looking at the broad
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spectrum or like the zoomed in
individuals?
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what you just said, he's talking
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about the crisis when it comes
to a broad population of people,
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you know, but when you're
dealing with individuals, I
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mean, I have to believe that you
say you can make that change.
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Like you can make that change as
you, you know, as a person.
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I found that.
I found that yesterday.
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I, I, I just started teaching
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So, you know, the summer ended
and school's back up again.
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And I walked into class and I
got a, a class full of 9th
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graders, you know, and then, and
they've already gotten the
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notion in their head that
they're the dumb class because
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they're, you know, because
they're ranked as, you know,
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basic or whatever I'm looking at
like you guys are.
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So with it, you guys are going
to do great this year.
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I'm, I'm so excited for you guys
to be able to like, I was like,
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you might not be sitting at your
desk for all 45 minutes of the
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day of the class, but you guys
are going to learn a lot.
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I could tell.
And you could just feel the
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shift in the room where like,
well, you know, where there
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would be individual kids that
really, like, you saw like it,
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it went into their heads that,
Hey, I'm, I am capable of, of
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doing this.
And then the other kids like,
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yeah, OK, what are you talking
about?
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But it was far more, it was far
more positive than negative.
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If we have that kind of you can
do it mentality, people like,
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yeah, I could, you know.
I love that and it's so
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important.
I'm so glad that you're doing
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that and you're conveying that
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I tell people you can heal.
Your body wants to heal and
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sometimes they think that's
impossible.
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No, my, these bad things keep
happening.
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It's not my fault.
It's I don't, I can't do
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anything about it.
My body's falling apart.
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It's attacking me.
No, it's not.
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It wants to heal and I will hold
that just like you're holding it
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for those 9th graders.
You're holding that baton that
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they can learn, they can excel,
they can and enjoy it while
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they're doing it.
And I hold that for people with
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health that you can heal.
It's awesome.
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You really can.
How'd you so, So what?
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How'd you get started?
You start by reading podcast
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books, your own life, your own
family.
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How'd you get, how'd you get
started in terms of the health
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journey and like how you get so
insane?
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I guess it's always with myself.
So it just started with myself
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as a observing how I grew up and
the food that I ate in my
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prepared in like, you know,
McDonald's was a special treat
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and I would get McDonald's and
like, wow, like I was a teenager
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noticing like, wow, these French
fries are really addictive.
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What is it about that?
Or, you know, back in back in
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the day, iceberg lettuce was a
vegetable and that was
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sufficient, you know, and then
just noticing that and how, how
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I grew up through growing up, I
think I've been every diet I've
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tried everything I love
experimenting on myself.
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So I've been gluten free, I've
been a vegan, I've been
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vegetarian.
I have been, you know, just food
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that I get from the farmers
market, just food that I
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prepare.
I have then gone to just making
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my own bone broth and meat that
I find at from local farmers.
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So everything.
And then I'd see, well, how do I
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feel when I do that?
And I've learned that one dogma
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is not right even for me at all
times in my life, that when I am
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busy raising my child, when I
was pregnant, when I am changing
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into my later years, I have
different nutritional needs.
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And if I don't adapt what I
want.
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So you know, when I go to the
farmers market and I'm like, Oh
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my goodness, I need to buy all
of these apples or a spinach, I
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learned to listen to it.
So it started with me, but then
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it also was with my son.
I have one son, he's 23 now.
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And my whole journey into energy
medicine started with him.
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So it started with I was a new
mom, he was an infant.
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So you have children.
You know what this is like, your
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baby is sleeping and you're
going to put your baby down in
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the crib to keep sleeping and
don't want the baby to wake up.
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So I know this is audio only,
but I have my hands cupped.
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So I put his little body down
and then I walk, I back out of
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the of his nursery and now my
hands are up and I'm backing
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away.
Like, did I do it?
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Did I do it?
Is he still sleeping?
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I put him down, he's still
sleeping and I'm backing away.
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And so my hands are raised up
like this and I'm halfway down
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the hallway and I notice that it
feels like there's a steel cable
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in between the palms of my hands
and his little body, like we're
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connected.
What is that feeling?
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I had never felt that before.
I had never felt a feeling of
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energy in my hands before.
And as life would have it, then
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all of these things came into my
world without me even asking for
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it.
I took Reiki classes.
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I learned about energy.
This is it's just crazy how it
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all happens.
But basically my little boy was
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telling me, hey mom, you need to
up level to take care of me.
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I need you to understand energy.
I need you to understand me
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better because this is what I
need to succeed and so.
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When did he tell you this?
That's a pretty mature thing to
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say.
He didn't.
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I think that's what he was.
He didn't.
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I mean, he's yeah, that's what I
think he sensed.
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No, he did not have words.
He's a boy.
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No, he did not have words.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
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That's what I think he was
encouraging me to do so that
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whenever as he grew up and
through his life, it was always
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hands on.
And even though I took classes
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and eventually I became a Reiki
master teacher and then I took
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other energy type work and got
other certifications, It was
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always about could I sense where
he wasn't balanced And he was
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very, very receptive to that.
That was the primary method of
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helping him.
And then also teaching him how
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did he feel in his body after he
ate lots of bread, he had a
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stomach ache and encouraging
him, OK, how does that feel?
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And developing language around
that.
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And eventually he grew out of
that.
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Of course, he's a teenager.
He ate tons of pizza.
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And then what happens, it
becomes a little, it changes how
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he reacts to different things.
So growing up and going through
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that journey with him on how to
teach somebody else how to pay
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attention to their body, because
I realized that I'm so in tune
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with my own body and what feels
right to me.
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It's a little unusual.
And I, I worked with him and he
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and he was naturally born that
way.
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So that's the how I got into
health.
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And then I began to notice that
some people would eat certain
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foods and then the next day say,
oh, I don't feel well, but not
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realize that it had any
connection to the strange
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combination of foods they ate
the day before.
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They had no realization, yes.
And I, I thought how strange,
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like I would put one bite of
food that didn't agree with me
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in my mouth and I would notice
it right away.
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So I realized that OK, people
have different delays and
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realizations within their body.
So that made me a natural for
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exploring health.
Does your does your and how, how
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receptive was your son to the to
all, to all these ideas as he
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was growing up?
He's 23 now, right?
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So as a teenager, as a young
adult, or, you know, you know,
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what's, what was his, was he
like, OK, mom kind of thing?
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Because my mom, when I was in
high school, my sister had
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psoriasis and she changed her
diet and it totally, totally
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helped.
And I used to have terribly dry
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skin and dandruff.
And I always blamed it, see, on
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the seasons.
I always blamed it like, OK,
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well, it's cold in New York.
And I mean, I, we're, you know,
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I mentioned I went to College in
Binghamton and I'm from
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Rockland.
So, you know, we got cold
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winters and and I would always
and then with the change of
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seasons that always, you know,
I'd also get like, you know, I
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get aggravated skin and I refuse
to.
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And my mom would be like, you
have to change your diet.
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The amount you're drinking is
not good.
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The amount of pizza you're
eating is not good.
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The amount of garbage that you
put and and they eat my Mama.
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Come on.
It's not who are you talking
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about?
It's not my food that I have
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dandruff.
OK, don't be ridiculous.
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And I mean, you know, Fast
forward a couple of years later
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and it took me till I was like
doing my own work and figuring
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it out my own way.
I'm like full circle.
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I'm like, I call my mom like, Oh
my God, you're right.
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You were right the whole time.
I'm so sorry.
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You're right, you're right,
you're right, you're right.
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You just wasted on the young.
I feel like an idiot.
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I'm sorry.
And now what do I do about
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making sure my kids don't do
this?
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Because I was like, I don't want
them to go another 5-10 years
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like I did and suffer like that,
you know?
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So how is your how does your son
feel about about all this?
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It's it's the exact same story,
exact same story.
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You know all the sugar.
So why you know, I would talk to
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him.
Well, how do you feel?
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Did you notice your skin is
breaking out?
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What are you eating?
He, he, he worked at, you know,
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also in New York, there's
Wegmans everywhere.
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He worked at Wegmans and, and,
and, and there's a bulk candy
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aisle.
Gosh, you can, when he had his
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own money, you know, you could
go buy as much candy as you want
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or after Halloween, half price
Halloween candy.
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Like, yes, he had to explore
that all himself, but because he
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had grown up with trying, like
knowing how things felt in his
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body, he was able to notice
like, wow, I'm not going to do
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that again.
And yeah, it did take.
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He did go through all those
years.
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Peer pressure is intense.
And you want enormous and you
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want to be just like everyone
else.
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And so I get with like you
started at the beginning with
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the obesity Dr. For for young
people, it is intense, but you
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know, it's a little bit more
normalized now to be speaking
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out and that's what I hope to
share with.
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Yeah, yeah.
And and he so he went through
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exactly the same thing as you.
That's great.
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It's good to know that it's a,
it's a young man's journey, but
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it also makes me a little
nervous about my son.
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But I like you said, though, and
I really, I do believe this.
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Like for example, my wife found
it.
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My wife started, she loves this
now she started milling her own
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flour and then using it as the
base for, you know, bread or
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cookies or waffles or pizza or
whatever it is.
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And like, you know, from and,
and she's like, I can't even
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tell you how much nutrition is
in this flour that I'm milling
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by myself that, you know, that
we're deprived of in
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commercially, in commercial, you
know, bread and pizza and stuff
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like that.
And, you know, the preservatives
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apparently that they put into
that, that allows the bread to
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stay fresh for so long actually
eats away at the potential
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nutrients that we would be
getting otherwise.
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So she's like, the food's not
going to be fresh for a month
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like it is in the supermarket,
but we're just making for the
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house anyway.
So, you know, we'll have it for
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dinner one night and then we'll,
you know, Saturday night's pizza
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night.
Well, we'll make our own pizza
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with our own, you know, So I'm
kind of hoping that that by
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introducing this at an early
age, that he that his body
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consciously or unconsciously
will say, hey, you know, sure.
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This is this is not something
that you should be, you know,
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eating right now or like, OK,
like this is this is this is
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acceptable.
This is pretty good.
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And I and I hope that it kind of
be able, is able to tell him
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that in the future.
What other aspects of energy,
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because people hear energy
healing and they kind of take a
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step back.
There's a very strong
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disassociation, like when I tell
my high schoolers that we're
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going to do poetry and they're
like poetry.
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And I'm like, you don't even
know what poetry is.
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I was like, you know that
feeling.
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And then I described to him
yesterday, it was so funny.
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I was like, imagine the feeling.
You walk into a pizza shop and
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the smell of that brick oven
just smacks you in the face.
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And then you and then you smell
the flower and you feel the
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flower in the air that's
underneath the dough.
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And they're like, yeah, I'm
like, you know, they're like,
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oh, yeah, that's awesome.
Like that's poetry.
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I was like, whatever.
I just whatever I just said to
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you, that's poetry.
It's not a bad thing.
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It's going to be OK.
You're going to be fine with it.
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So can you, can you elaborate a
little bit on the energy healing
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and what and what the
foundations are and what the
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ideas are?
Absolutely.
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Yeah, Energy healing is popular
in some circles but really
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distrusted in others.
I don't use it a lot.
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I don't use the phrase energy
healing because of that reason.
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It's, you know, it's people who
do yoga and lead retreats in
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Bali and Mexico that and that's
true.
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Energy healing does happen in
that way.
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I like energy medicine.
To me, energy medicine has many
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proven science based
methodologies.
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One of them is homeopathy.
Homeopathy is using diluted
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substances that make a reaction
in your body and that encourages
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increased communication and
healing.
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It's the trigger for your body
that says this is what I need.
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Homeopathy.
There's one.
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Another one is acupuncture.
So some people are not sure that
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we have energy running in our
bodies, but we do.
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And they're they're going
highways called meridians.
401
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And acupuncture's been around
for so long.
402
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You put, you stimulate points on
the body and then it unblocks.
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It encourages healing.
So that is also energy medicine,
404
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,120
Reiki, that's hands on healing.
It can be done at a distance or
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in person.
That's energy medicine as well.
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So energy medicine has these
things, Reiki.
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Or what's the OK?
What's the idea behind it?
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So here, here it is.
Every single person on this
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planet is an energy healer.
All of us, we all you know we
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have intentions.
We can use our hands.
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We put our hands on our kids.
We put our hands on our heads
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when we don't feel well.
We know we rub high 5 you you
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you, you.
You run into a doorway.
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You rub your arm.
You know you you not naturally
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use energy healing.
Reiki is a format that was
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channeled or downloaded by a
Japanese man in the 1930s.
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So it has a Japanese name.
And because he's a Japanese man,
418
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it came through in his culture
which said let's have a
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procedure, let's have a step by
step process, let's have some
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symbols, and all the symbols are
Japanese characters.
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We don't need any of that.
It's a good framework for people
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who want to learn.
But once you know that, you can
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feel it.
You don't need any structure
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whatsoever.
All energy healing is a format
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to get you comfortable with
trusting your own intuition,
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being able to be clear and use
the energy of the universe, not
427
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your own.
You know, there's a difference
428
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between giving of yourself and
giving from the universe.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so, so Reiki is, is hands on
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healing or distance healing.
And there could you could follow
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a format or not.
I don't.
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Once I learned the, the format,
I left it behind.
433
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I I just say, hey, this is what
we need to do today.
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And so when I was when I was a
Reiki practitioner, it was all
435
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,320
free form, but it was nice to
have a framework to learn, to
436
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,800
get started.
Just like when you're going to
437
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teach your students poetry, you
might have some guidelines or
438
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,320
some, here's a framework you
could follow to get you started.
439
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,320
You know, we could follow a
haiku or we could follow, I
440
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,080
don't know, some other format.
I'm thinking of iambic
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pectameter.
Something like like, hey, there
442
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,800
is something that is really hard
to do or it's really easy to do,
443
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,600
but you don't have to do any of
those things to talk about pizza
444
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,880
as poetry.
So the same with energy.
445
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:35,160
And that's how I explain Reiki.
So what applications would you
446
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560
use Reiki?
And if someone like if, how
447
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,200
would you determine like which
tool in your toolbox do you do
448
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,200
you use?
Because I feel like you know
449
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,200
when you have so many.
Different options, yeah.
450
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Yeah, please.
So right now I don't see any
451
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:58,280
clients one-on-one for Reiki as
a as a stand alone practice at
452
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all.
That is right now I use Reiki as
453
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,280
part of what I do in my
precision healing method
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program.
I use Reiki when I'm used doing
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trapped emotion release.
So I have, I try to combine all
456
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of the tools that I have into
one program.
457
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,560
And for there's one aspect that
I do called trapped emotion
458
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release.
And for that I do, I call it
459
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,000
switching into Reiki mode, which
is just switching into
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connecting with my guides, my
teachers, my clients, guides and
461
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,680
teachers and asking to release
something that they don't need
462
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,440
any more, something that they
have said, hey, I'm ready to
463
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,080
release this horrible feeling.
I don't want it any more than I
464
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,920
go in and help facilitate that.
And that's one aspect of what I
465
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do in the precision healing
method.
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That would apply to something
like an emotional pain or trauma
467
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,240
that manifests in your body that
you're trying to alleviate and
468
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get rid of.
That's.
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What it would be so in.
Yeah.
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So there's two types of
emotional issues that I help my
471
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clients with. 1 is how you're
feeling right now.
472
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:30,560
You've got grief or you're
stressed or there's some you're
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just struggling in some way and
there could be all kinds of
474
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,120
reasons what that is.
So that's your day-to-day and
475
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:40,560
you're you're dealing with this
that needs different support
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00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,080
than something that's been
buried from a long time ago.
477
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,320
That is just an underlying
dread.
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You know, you experience
something horrible a long time
479
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,240
ago.
You thought you were over it,
480
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,080
but every once in a while like
what is this?
481
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Why does this fear come up to
me?
482
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I like it because I'm an
engineer.
483
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,800
I want the quickest and fastest
solution.
484
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,360
I am not a therapist.
If you think you need to have
485
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,360
therapy about this old issue, go
see a therapist.
486
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,280
That's definitely not my
specialty.
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00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:21,920
So if when I find out that you
don't even have to know what it
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is, because through bioenergetic
testing, I will ask is there
489
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,240
something that needs to be
released?
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00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:34,680
Then if something comes up, then
I will release it.
491
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,920
And you may have a memory of it
or maybe you don't.
492
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,280
So there's your current emotions
and then there is old stuck
493
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,360
stuff.
And you know what?
494
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,400
Old stuck emotions tend to
settle in areas of weakness in
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00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:57,960
your body really when like like
things that don't heal, there's
496
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,960
usually some emotions that are
kind of tied up in it.
497
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,680
If it just won't get better
after you try everything you've
498
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440
been to the physical therapist
and like, but my back still
499
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,120
hurts.
Well, because there's an
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emotional component to it.
So you can do all the exercises,
501
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,640
do all the physical therapy, but
there's probably, you probably
502
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,280
need to look at the emotions as
well.
503
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,400
That's fascinating.
That's so interesting.
504
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,600
I what's fascinating, just
reflecting for a minute of my
505
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,200
own life, is that I was very I
am, but for a long time I was
506
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,680
very fear driven my whole life.
And that includes fear of
507
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,800
physical confrontation as well.
And I forced myself a couple of
508
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:45,560
months ago to start taking jiu
jitsu and the starting to do jiu
509
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:51,280
jitsu right, which by definition
means I'm getting I'm using all
510
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,240
parts of my body I have never
used in my entire life.
511
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,800
I was I I've gone through the
last couple of months this like
512
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,520
real legitimate period of
working out a lot.
513
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,960
I've been a whole other layer or
dimension has been triggered and
514
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,520
I'm and I'm so curious if it has
to do with this newfound
515
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,080
physical expression.
And I know that and I've been
516
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,920
grappling and working with and
building and making
517
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,640
breakthroughs in really, really
amazing ways, you know, with,
518
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,000
with parts of myself that I've
really never been even even able
519
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,240
to look face to face at.
And, and I'm putting that
520
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,120
together also because my wife
had gone a couple of months back
521
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,160
to what's called the dance
therapy class.
522
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,840
And it was also that same
notion, which is that our body
523
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,760
stores and our body keeps trauma
and fit in different physical
524
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,800
places.
And by day, you know, by actual,
525
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,560
you know, physical emotions set
to set to different music, you
526
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,280
can actually kind of release it
or access it and pinpoint it.
527
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,880
And I really do believe in all
that.
528
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,320
I really think that, I mean, I
don't, I think that anyone
529
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920
that's had these experiences are
these experiences are so
530
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:07,200
profound and so clear and so
tangible that like you can't
531
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,400
ever say that you can't, you
lose a lot of skepticism just
532
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,640
based on your experience, which
is really, really cool.
533
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,240
I'm so glad you're doing that.
The best way to move emotion and
534
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,920
metabolize the emotion is
through movement.
535
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,200
Acknowledge it and then move it
out.
536
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,160
So if you were feeling like,
Hey, this feels weird, but I'm
537
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,160
going through jiu jitsu and you
kept shoving it down, you would
538
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
just be compacting it and
shoving it and keeping it there.
539
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,640
But the fact that you're saying,
hey, I acknowledge this.
540
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,920
You're, you're letting your body
move it out because right, your
541
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,120
issues are in your tissues so
You Can Dance it out.
542
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,120
Some people like all different
ways.
543
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,960
There's so many different ways
to do it.
544
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,160
It's not just one way.
And that is great because now
545
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,000
you are able to stand in a new
place without being burdened by
546
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,800
old stuff.
And so you know, what I find out
547
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,240
is sometimes it's not even your
own stuff.
548
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,600
Sometimes it's inherited,
sometimes it's absorbed from
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00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,400
someone else.
Sometimes the people's emotions
550
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,120
aren't even their own.
They're inherited or observed
551
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,480
from somebody else.
And so it's really good when you
552
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,520
move your body and get those
out.
553
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,560
You don't need to carry other
people's stuff.
554
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,040
I'm actually recording an
episode next week, I hope,
555
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,600
unless it's subject to change,
but with someone that actually a
556
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,520
therapist that works with
intergenerational trauma, which
557
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,520
I'm really fascinated by because
my own family history is my my
558
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,400
boats.
Both my mother's parents are
559
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,160
were survivors of the Holocaust.
And so the type of household
560
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,880
that she grew up in obviously
was going to be pretty different
561
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,680
than, you know, the typical
American household or, you know,
562
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,920
typical, you know, household
that a lot of people are growing
563
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,960
up in, growing up with two
survivors from such a, you know,
564
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,480
tragedy.
And you can see very, very
565
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,040
clearly, like what traits, you
know, and what perspective and
566
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,199
what kind of attitudes are
passed down out of like almost
567
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,560
genetic necessity, out of
biological necessity.
568
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,520
You know, it's really, really
fascinating.
569
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,080
And so it's, it's so cool to
think that certain events could
570
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,080
mean so much that your bot that
your genes say, you know what,
571
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,600
your children are going to need
this and your grandchildren are
572
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,760
going to need this experience.
So we're going to just like pass
573
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,920
it along to them and make sure
that it sticks with them because
574
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,280
that's how important this is.
It's so fascinating.
575
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:53,239
It is and so emotions get passed
down also nutrient deficiencies
576
00:34:53,320 --> 00:35:00,600
get passed down, environmental
toxicities like heavy metals or
577
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,960
pesticide residue, like they get
passed down as well.
578
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,480
And so being able to clean up
your own body and take care of
579
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,400
yourself, doing the best you can
is the best key for health.
580
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Looking at yourself from all
perspectives, I don't think that
581
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:27,160
there is ever an end to trying
to figure out how can I be
582
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,520
healthier when you don't feel
good, when you don't feel good
583
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,680
or something's bothering you,
There's so many avenues to
584
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200
explore.
It's never just one thing.
585
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,960
So whether you work with any any
kind of practitioner, there's
586
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,040
always more and it's best to
have an open mind because we're
587
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,520
learning things all the time.
That's fascinating that you're
588
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,720
going to have a guest on about
intergenerational trauma.
589
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,160
Yeah, I'm really excited about
it.
590
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,640
I'm really excited about it.
And I think that because it's
591
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,880
also, there's also the vice
versa, right?
592
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,280
There are traits that, you know,
if my grandfather, my
593
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,600
grandmother would have been far
more necessary.
594
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,000
And for me, it's not useful to
have.
595
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,560
And so for me, I have to just, I
have to discard that, you know,
596
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,680
even though genetically it's
dispositioned in me.
597
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,120
And then physically, actually
also the pediatric that a doctor
598
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,560
that I spoke to the other day
said, I, he said that there were
599
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,200
studies that the, the amount of
sugar that our bodies are like
600
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,120
kind of used to and our ability
to process it start from the
601
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,760
first, I think in the like from
conception for the first two
602
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,080
years that the baby's alive.
So, you know, nine months in the
603
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,840
womb and then two years.
And then when the baby turns 3,
604
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,400
that's where the point gets set.
But if, you know, even a even
605
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,880
even a mother that's carrying
has to be conscientious as to
606
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,480
what she's consuming because
she's passing that on to her,
607
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,640
that passing on to the kid.
And my wife gave birth just four
608
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,160
or five months ago, thank God.
And you know, thank God
609
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,880
everything was OK.
But it was really it, you know,
610
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,840
we were talking the nurse and
the baby was 77172.
611
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,080
And the nurse said she's been
seeing babies that are 12,
612
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,320
thirteen, 14 lbs at birth.
And I'm like, I've never even
613
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,120
heard like 10 was considered
massive when I, you know, when I
614
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,680
was growing up and with my
family.
615
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,240
And she said that you know that
a lot of this has to do with
616
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,760
genetics getting passed down
from conception.
617
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,800
Yeah, wow, Wow.
Well, congratulations to you and
618
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,320
your new little one.
It's great to have a healthy
619
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,200
baby.
And you know, that brings up
620
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,760
another point of nowadays when I
hear from people who come to me
621
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,280
and they say I got my blood test
back and it says I'm normal
622
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,440
here, but not normal someplace
else.
623
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,960
Wait a minute.
What does normal mean?
624
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,760
Normal means that the lab
company is comparing you to an
625
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,280
average population.
Do you want to be compared to an
626
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,600
average population?
Is that average population
627
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,280
healthy?
It's not comparing it to healthy
628
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,840
people.
It's comparing it to an average
629
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,920
population.
So you know, and, and is that
630
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,640
the best indicator and the best
marker?
631
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,760
That's a whole nother story.
But yeah, averages, you know,
632
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:26,240
you look at it, clothing sizes,
chair sizes, things are things
633
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,560
are changing based on how the
population is evolving.
634
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,320
Is that what you want to do?
Even things like daily
635
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,200
recommended you like average
daily recommended sugar or carbs
636
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,960
or whatever.
I'm sure that the goal post gets
637
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,880
moved around.
I mean, I don't know if I don't
638
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,360
know for certain, but I could
just imagine that as time goes
639
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,000
on that, you know, the things
change.
640
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,760
Last question.
Now you have to go in a couple
641
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,120
of minutes.
Last thing that I wanted to talk
642
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,160
to you about, I think is one of
the more important things or the
643
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,320
more inspiring things is how you
can, how you had the courage to
644
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,200
make such a, you know,
significant change in your life,
645
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,120
career change or profession
change or, you know, after
646
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,160
having a whole career.
Because I know that some things
647
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,200
that most people, a lot of
people I know, at least whether
648
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,120
it's anecdotally with family or
whether it's friends or things I
649
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:18,200
read, is that people feel like
you build to you're 30, maybe
650
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,320
you're 40 and then like you kind
of close the rest of your life.
651
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,360
And I personally disagree, you
know, but it's easy for me to
652
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,240
say as a 30 year old, you know,
can you, can you elaborate a
653
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,880
little bit as to like what that,
what your whole experience was
654
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,640
like for a couple minutes?
Sure, yes.
655
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,920
I hope that I'm a different
person tomorrow than I am today.
656
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,480
I hope that I'm a different and
better person next year than I
657
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,800
am this year.
I'm always looking to grow.
658
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,840
I'm not afraid of making a
change.
659
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,840
I've been successful in
everything I do.
660
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,440
I have no reason to doubt that I
wouldn't be successful in this
661
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,480
new direction.
Listen, there's plenty of work.
662
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,240
People need solutions.
I am.
663
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,840
I have a fearlessness and I have
a vision and I see it so
664
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,760
clearly.
I'm confident in the results
665
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,800
that I've gotten for my clients.
They the results speak for
666
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,160
themselves and they've written
testimonials for me.
667
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,520
Whether or not this is the right
business at the right time,
668
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,400
whether it's popular, doesn't
matter to me.
669
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:33,440
I get people reaching out to me
all the time saying do you want
670
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,480
to scale your business and scale
it and grow up to these, you
671
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,560
know, enormous numbers.
And I write back and I say, this
672
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,960
is not a scalable business.
This this is me doing something
673
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,200
I'm passionate about one-on-one
with my clients.
674
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,840
No, this is not a franchise.
This is not replacing me with an
675
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,840
AI tool.
This is personal health coaching
676
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,800
and bioenergetic testing.
So I feel so strongly about it
677
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,160
and that vision is what carries
me through.
678
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,800
And there's plenty of times
where it's, it can be hard.
679
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,280
It can be hard explaining
something that's new to people
680
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,360
who are based in the traditional
mindset.
681
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,120
So I always look for the success
I've seen with myself and my
682
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,680
family and my clients and I stay
grounded.
683
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:37,360
I'm not looking for success as
determined by LinkedIn or the
684
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,920
Internet.
I'm looking for it as defined by
685
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,600
what lights me up.
And have I made health
686
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,120
transformations possible for
people who didn't think that
687
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,800
they could have transferred
health transformations, People
688
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,240
who thought that they were stuck
forever and nothing would ever
689
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:57,000
change, and then they did.
Yeah.
690
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:04,520
That's that's what I thrive on.
So my vision helps keep me
691
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,360
grounded.
And yes, if you want a highly
692
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,600
scalable business where you can
sell to a venture capitalist,
693
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,560
this is not the right business.
But if you want to make a
694
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,920
difference in people's lives, it
is.
695
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,360
Yeah.
So how so?
696
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:23,800
Well, that, yeah.
So what advice do you think
697
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,800
you'd give someone that feels
like, you know what, like for
698
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,680
example, my mom, right, my mom,
just my youngest, my youngest
699
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,600
brother's 14.
He's just starting high school,
700
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,600
which means the house is going
to be empty for the first time
701
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,400
in 30 years for her.
I she has six kids and you know,
702
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,320
she's used to being Mama bear
and, you know, and, and she has
703
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,440
grandkids that live nearby, but
for the first time, things going
704
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,520
to be quiet, you know, like
she's like, well, what do I do?
705
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,040
At this point in my life?
I'm 55.
706
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,760
I'm so, you know, whatever it is
and I, I got AI got a lot of
707
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,280
life left.
What do I but you know, I spent
708
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,200
the last 30 years, you know
what?
709
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,320
How do I, how do I do this?
What do you think?
710
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Yeah, everyday say, what brings
me joy?
711
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,640
What do I want to learn?
What?
712
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,160
How can I take care of myself
when I couldn't have taken care
713
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,560
of myself before?
Is it walking?
714
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,480
Is it weightlifting?
What do I want to learn?
715
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,800
So the first step is she's not
going to even know what she
716
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,880
enjoys because her enjoyment is
from giving to everyone else.
717
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:28,520
So it's describing and finding
what she likes and learning that
718
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,920
again.
And at this time of her life, I
719
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,640
mean, she is just getting
started.
720
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:37,320
All of that emotional and mental
energy that she's given to you
721
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,960
and your siblings, she now has
to create something for herself.
722
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,120
Maybe her health is great and
she doesn't even need to focus
723
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,840
on that.
Maybe there'll be some other
724
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,480
passion.
So the first question is, what
725
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,320
lights me up?
What brings me joy?
726
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:54,560
How can I learn about that and
do that a little more?
727
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,760
And if there's something in her
health that she's been putting
728
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,480
off, now is the time she can
start taking little baby steps
729
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:06,720
towards movement and food and
finding new things that bring
730
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,480
her joy.
Beautiful, Beth.
731
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,560
I really appreciate the time.
I'm sorry the, the audio got a
732
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,040
little choppy over there.
I'm sorry about the technical
733
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,560
issues, but this was really so
much fun.
734
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,840
Maybe we'll do Part 2 a couple
of months down the line.
735
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,840
This is such a, this is so much
fun.
736
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,840
I feel like I want to, I want
to, we could talk a lot more and
737
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,040
I really appreciate the time.
I think that what you're doing
738
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,960
is wonderful and I think that
you should keep it up and you
739
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,680
should have a lot of success.
And this is really so nice
740
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,720
getting to talk to you a little
bit.
741
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,440
Thank you so much Efraim, have a
great day.
742
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,640
You too.
Take care.
743
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,800
I'll be in touch.
Bye bye.
744
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Bye bye.